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:The material is not of my own writing, and both copies of the same were deleted instead of keeping one. Hence I have restored one copy. It has nothing to do with copyvio.<font color="#FF9933"> ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर &#124; असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म..[[User_talk:thisthat2011 | <font color="#FF9933"> Humour Thisthat2011</font>]]</font>
:The material is not of my own writing, and both copies of the same were deleted instead of keeping one. Hence I have restored one copy. It has nothing to do with copyvio.<font color="#FF9933"> ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर &#124; असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म..[[User_talk:thisthat2011 | <font color="#FF9933"> Humour Thisthat2011</font>]]</font>
::Seriously, if you don't understand why copyvios are removed and shouldn't be restored, you shouldn't be editing here. It doesn't matter if you wrote the original text or someone else wrote it, you can not restore such content. Please stop this. &mdash;[[User:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#BA181F">Spaceman</font>]]'''[[User_talk:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#2B18BA">Spiff</font>]]''' 12:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
::Seriously, if you don't understand why copyvios are removed and shouldn't be restored, you shouldn't be editing here. It doesn't matter if you wrote the original text or someone else wrote it, you can not restore such content. Please stop this. &mdash;[[User:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#BA181F">Spaceman</font>]]'''[[User_talk:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#2B18BA">Spiff</font>]]''' 12:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

:::SpacemanSpiff, it is obvious that ThisThat2011 does not understand what is a copyvio. Instead of asking him to stop editing, the difficulty can be solved by explaining what is a copyvio. Earlier on, he had asked for an explanation as to where he is wrong so that he could avoid repeating the mistake. The issue has not been explained adequately to him. Please let me try to explain my understanding of what is a copyvio. ThisThat2011, the problem is not that you are not using your own wording. The problem is that you are ''not'' using your own wording. When you use a source, you can only use them to gather some information. But you cannot use ''their'' wording. You must restate the same thing in your own , completely new words, to avoid doing a copyvio. You are not doing that and that is the problem.--[[User:MangoWong|MangoWong]] ([[User talk:MangoWong|talk]]) 13:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


== [[Mundeshwari Temple]] ==
== [[Mundeshwari Temple]] ==

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Great Work!!

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I saw your recent contributions and think you are doing a great work. However, some of your edits have been out of context and may be seen as POV pushing. I would recommend you discuss with other editors on talkpage of the article if required and place references in context. I have placed a welcome link on your talkpage. Move it to the top of talkpage as it might be useful.Contact me if you need help and keep up the good work.--UplinkAnsh (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Thisthat2011 (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

April 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you are reminded not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Jasper Deng (talk) 05:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please give link to referred topic for better understanding. Thanks. Thisthat2011 (talk) 05:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[1]. Do not try to disparage the background of others.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to "narendra modi's mother tongue" topic then I dont consider that as personal attack. That Narendra Modi is Gujarati and talks in Gujarati is a fact as true as daylight. It just means that the user has not understood that the language is called Gujarati is all. It is acknowledged the fact that the user has another mother tongue which can be as good and culturally rich. In no sense it is disparaging.

It is still a personal attack. Instead of saying something like that, please explain to the user exactly what he/she said wrong, and cite your sources.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:24, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok done.

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Could you specify please where I have indulged in Edit war? In two topics [Slavery] and [Alexander the great] the edits were hardly from one line or more. When edits were reverted, it was decided later that a consensus is needed and no edits are done after that. And how long could a block without notice last, considering it looks imminent? Please note that most of my edits are in talk pages and not at all currently on Wikipedia pages and still I am getting this message. Thisthat2011 (talk) 08:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Slavery.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I was not familiar with edit behavior, and it has ended up with just one out of 4 edits though I was also not too familiar with source differentiation etc. Though after that has been made clear, I have not made any edits except in talk pages.Thisthat2011 (talk) 20:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This warning is old. It was because of Slavery.Jasper Deng (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copy/paste from the internet

Please see WP:COPYRIGHT and do avoid copy/pasting large blocks of text from copyrighted sources. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 01:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok Thisthat2011 (talk) 08:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Tibet. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. HXL's Roundtable and Record 12:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point to which edits this information message refers to please? Thisthat2011 (talk) 17:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to take part in a pilot study

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ok done. Thisthat2011 (talk) 21:56, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism

The issue is not the information, but the source. Wikipedia's reliable sourcing guidelines (link to them here) do not allow user-generated sources (such as wikidot websites), nor do they allow self-published sources (such as tripod pages). I recommend looking on Google Books for a source (just make sure the publisher is not a pay-to-print publisher like Lulu.com). None of the sources in the Christianity article are from self-published sources. As you see here, I removed a spam link that would count as a self-published source if it was used as a source in the article). The authors of that article's sources had to get approval from someone else to get those books published. Self-published does not mean that the author is a Hindu, Christian, or whatever. Self-published means the author published by himself, and had noone to make sure he was publishing good material. I highly recommend studying the reliable sourcing guidelines for more information. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guess this is a good source here. If this can be considered as one, do let me know please so I can make changes.Thisthat2011 (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is a good source. The book comes from a company that specializes in academic works, so the author's work would have been scrutinized. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh

Please note that it is not appropriate to change disputed sections without consensus. Please continue in discussion at the talk page. Yes Michael?Talk 17:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok.Thisthat2011 (talk) 17:35, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sanskrit Wikipedia

You seem to be quite knowledgeable in Sanskrit. Have you considered contributing to the Sanskrit Wikipedia? Regards, Yes Michael?Talk 14:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to. I will see what I can do about it.सततम् कर्यम् समकर कर्म I असक्तॊ ही अकरण कर्म 14:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
We need knowledgeable editors like you. Hope to see you there! Yes Michael?Talk 16:29, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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ok thanks.असक्ताह सततम्, कार्यम् कर्म समाच्रर | असक्तॊ ही अचरण कर्म 12:41, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit war? or removal of sourced content?

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. You have been continuing to add personal commentary in various articles and/or sourcing dubious content to unreliable sources, please refrain from doing that.SpacemanSpiff 07:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are accusing me of something for which there is a sourced content. You are removing the sourced content and then accusing me of "adding personal commentary" though not a single word of the content is my own. Please desist from deleting referenced content and then accusing. It is vandalism and there is a topic in discussion board Talk:Christianity_in_India#Vandalism_in_edits_.5B.7C_here.5D_and_user_SpacemanSpiff_.5B.7C_here.5D here as well. Please mention your concerns on the discussion board...असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 07:37, 29 April 2011 (UTC).

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Babri mosque. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
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If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.SpacemanSpiff 07:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Christianity in India. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.SpacemanSpiff 07:51, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This goes the same for you. My content addition are well sourced. I am fine for going to noticeboard but don't deleted well-sourced content without discussion board. The links addresses tell a lot about what is mentioned in the words. I would like to escalate this for matter which is indeed well sourced. I have also mentioned where to discuss this on discussion page...असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 07:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The links that you add do not qualify as WP:RS and the content you keep adding is your personal commentary. You are welcome to take it to any noticeboard you wish. —SpacemanSpiff 07:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How is this my personal commentary. Tell me which words. How are the links for Ashrams maintained by Christians themselves are my commentary?..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 07:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Your signature

Hello. I saw your posts at ANI and noticed that your signature does not contain any links. Per policy, you need to include a link in your signature back to your user page, usertalk page, or contributions. Please see this or contact me for assistance. Thanks —DoRD (talk) 11:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

check.असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 12:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, your sig consists of yellow text (difficult to see on a white background), and no Latin (English) alphabet letters, making it hard for someone looking at your sig to figure out that it's you. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:39, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Got it thanks..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 06:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ganges

did you know what you just did there. i believe you owe an apology to Pfly. --CarTick (talk) 11:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok. I never know things can go out of way so suddenly. I actually put my understanding before apology, hope it helps...असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 11:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011

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Some links.

Temple architechture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_temple_architecture

List of noticeboards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_noticeboards..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 21:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it seems that discussion for Talk:Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh#Edit_request_from_67.78.85.67.2C_12_April_2011 is not going anywhere, not because of consensus, but because of no consensus is claimed, in spite of 3 different users saying so. The reasons are given and are finally replies are a new question: Extending Biographies of living people to organisations? ... , I think you have answered your own question! ... For other organisations, go to the respective page/talk page... and so on; In spite of giving reasons. So I would like to know where are the ironclad rules for first line of an organization? Where is the rule that usual principles can not be extended to first line of an organization? I would request to set a standard for organizations and as such. Also I would like to know what to do in cases where in the name of consensus, no effort is made to form a consensus but all efforts are made just to claim no consensus, a similar behavior is noticed here also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:India#No_consensus_in_the_secondary_and_tertiary_sources_for_India_also_Bharat.

.असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 21:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC) :: Can someone give a list of things to do for this matter to request an arbitration please? Thanks..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 06:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thisthat2011. I'm a clerk for the Arbitration Committee and have moved your post here as it was in the wrong place.
ArbCom doesn't get involved in content disputes, and this appears to be a content dispute. You've got several options but you need to only use one at a time. If you think that this is primarily a BLP issue, you can go to the WP:BLPN and raise your concerns there. If you think it is a sourcing issue, we have WP:RSN. It occurs to me that there may be NPOV problems and we have WP:NPOVN for discussing those.
We also have dispute resolution venues WP:DR.
Another suggestion would be to raise a request for comment on the issue - see WP:RFC concerning where text should be placed.
It's up to you to decide what you want to do. Dougweller (talk) 09:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. 08:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Warning

Following my request on your talk page about disruption by continual repeating your comments, you have continued to repeat the comments so unless it concerns a request for comment then to keep repeating your comment will be considered disruptive and you may have your editing rights restricted. MilborneOne (talk) 09:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Despite my request not to keep repeating your points at Talk:India you have repeated them again today [2]. Although we assume good faith your continually making the same points is clearly disruptive, it may be worth reading the Request for comment page for instructions if you wish to gain further views on the subject, but to keep repeating your comments will be seen as being disruptive and you may have your editing rights restricted. MilborneOne (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As far as name Bharat is considered, I have pointed out with reasons from my side, instead of opposing it again and again unreasonably, and therefore not disruptive according to me. Though, I can see that apparently no weight is been given here for reasons.
As I have pointed out on your page, the repetition is because of repeated assertions from other users. As it is, it is a talk page, not main page India. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 21:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can understand your frustration, you have a point to make and nobody is saying that you cant have a view and make suggestions to improve the article. The request to include Bharat in the lead has not been supported by a number of editors, although other editors have supported it. The default for the article is to stay the same unless you can gain a consensus on the talk page. It is not for other editors to show why it should change but for you to raise points why it should. The problem with repeating the points is that the opinion of the other editors on the talk page is not changed by repeating it, which is why it is seen as disruptive. Editors then get frustrated and it can lead to bad behaviour by other editors which we really dont want. My suggestion is that you will not get support on the talk page no matter what you say but as I am sure you believe you have a valid suggestion then it is better to get other editors involved to see if a wider audience supports your views. The best method is to create a request for comment, you can follow the instructions on the Wikipedia:Requests for comment page, it also suggested an automated page to make it easier at RfC posting tool. What then happens is that other editors/users see the notice for comments and some of them will not have visited the India page before so will read your suggestion with no preset ideas and give an opinion one way or another. As it is a bit of a stalemate on the talk page so this will get others involved and allow you to get more comments. I appreciate that I dont agree with your suggestion but that doesnt mean you dont have the right to gain more views, if you have any questions then please ask on this page and I will try and help. MilborneOne (talk) 22:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Sorry for being harsh

Hello, I'm sorry if I've been harsh at Talk:India. I had been aware of some conflict over there but had been ignoring it until seeing the "request for comments". My comments over there are meant in the best of faith and encouragement. Also, I just saw on your main user page, "Susu - hope it increases their numbers and reduced pollution, fishing and division into isolated groups because of barrages." That is a sentiment I can wholeheartedly agree with, and was pleased to see. You call the dolphins "Susu"? We don't have dolphins where I live, but there are some Orcas, which are somewhat similar and hugely impressive. There are a huge number of dams where I live, to the great detriment of the aquatic species, mostly salmon. It's a perennial issue here. While I mourn the devastation of the salmon and the natural rivers, I am also pleased that my electricity comes from hydropower rather than coal or nuclear plants. I realize that the Indian barrages are not usually major hydroelectric producers, and if they are harmful to the dolphins that is a shame. Dolphins are so much more intelligent and conscious than salmon! Anyway, just wanted to post here to let you know I don't meant to be overly harsh over at Talk:India--more just trying to be helpful. Pfly (talk) 11:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

'Susu' is kind of phonetic. The dolphin comes up to water surface every 30 minutes for breathing and generates such a sound, the locals therefore refer to it so.
Onomatopoeia is probably a better term than phonetic. Cool! Pfly (talk) 12:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What I do understand is that the dolphins live in fresh water, therefore their presence/site is appreciated. The dolphins are therefore somewhat indicative of pure water flow hence some symbolism is involved. As the dams reduce the flow of water and decrease passive capacity of water to take pollution away to the sea, not to mention cut away path of migrations etc. As it is, every time there are talks of building hydro power plants on Ganga, there is this issue of migratory species being affected. There is a lot of money involved and so the issue effectively also is delicately poised against dwindling population of the dolphins. As social mammal(social animal have much better chance of surviving in society and comparatively little chance alone), there are a lot of efforts made to increase their numbers; but as mentioned there are some natural issues(low birth rate) and some man made(catching for oil etc., barrages) that are coming in the way big time. As it is, dolphins are extremely friendly and intelligent, though Ganga dolphin has diminished eye sight(as eyesight is not needed in muddy waters), has evolved to live entirely on sound reflections(echo) & does not respond to sight of tourists etc. I appreciate your concern about the dolphins.
On a side note, I was wondering if a dam could be constructed a little away from water flow so that the normal flow is not obstructed, etc. but that is just me talking loud.
I do envy you your dolphins. We have similar issues here, but focused on salmon. Salmon are a hugely important historical thing here, but if it was dolphins I imagine there would be little opposition to all-out preservation efforts. I have a hard time imaging fresh water dolphins, as I've never seen any. The closest I've come is the salt water orcas around here, which are clearly quite different.
Well, I guess Ganga dolphins have evolved in such manner. In India, dolphin preservation would indeed be slow. It is a rare species and it is sadly not able to stand up in these times. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it looks like you are fluent to some degree in Sanskrit. That is one of the few connections I have with India. A good friend of mine in college took courses in Sanskrit, and through her I acquired a great appreciation, and gained a huge fascination with the language. If you are fluent in it, or at least can read it, I envy you. Pfly (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not too fluent in Sanskrit, but Sanskrit is easy because it is phonetic. In India, people learn Hindi and therefore know how to read Sanskrit words as Hindi and Sanskrit follow the same script. Also, most of the languages in India, including Sanskrit, are all phonetic - so you write what you speak which helps a lot in education. The communication becomes then mostly about ideas and not pronunciations(the entire pronunciations of Sanskrit can be explained as combination of parts in brief, for example Sanskrit#Phonology section). I am no scholar in Sanskrit at all, but it grammar is very logical, and so people tend to understand the structure well. A lot of Hindu literature is written in Sanskrit, and other Indian languages. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This makes me think of the place of Latin among European languages. Latin is likewise phonetic, at leat in its classical form. For those who know French, Spanish, and especially Italian, Latin is not too hard to decipher. I've often heard Latin and Sanskrit compared, but wow it is hard for a European-American to learn Sanskrit! The alphabet/syllabarary (whatever it ought to be called) is hard enough! The main thing I recall being hard for my friend to learn about Sanskrit was the ligatures. ...good night. Pfly (talk) 12:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To learn Sanskrit, one has to understand phonetic groups. For example - ta tha da dha na - these five consonants are spoken in mutually similar phonetic manner and therefore grouped together; or another example - pa pha ba bha ma - these five consonants are grouped together similarly. In all there are 7 such consonant groups, and 14 vowels - each with individual phonetic. That's a good start! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing

Just a note, that asking other users on talk pages to participate in a discussion such as you did here is frowned upon, and can often be seen as WP:CANVASSING. If you do feel the need to notify other editors about the conversation, it is best to say you have done so on the talkpage where the conversation is happening. Cheers, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess thats called Consensus, with different facets like Consensus building and blocking etc. (See also See also).
Note the part there Soliciting opinions, which is not WP:CANVASSING. Everyone does some WP:CANVASSING to an extent, for example by user MikeLynch; and I don't see anyone warning that guy now, can you? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 16:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry; how does that particular edit count as canvassing? Please explain your allegation; or else read WP:CANVAS properly. Yes Michael?Talk 16:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the message. Instead of requesting comments, the message from your side just says 'this does not look peoper :)'. Now that is not too neutral, is it? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 17:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that NPOV is not applicable to talk page comments. Yes Michael?Talk 17:17, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know regarding which part of WP:CANVAS you accuse me of violation, please avoid making unsubstantiated allegations in the future. Thank you. Yes Michael?Talk 17:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How is [[ this not canvassing? And if it is, what is the big deal? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 19:11, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am asking you how that comes under WP:CANVAS. Quote the relevant section from WP:CANVAS. Yes Michael?Talk 07:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Inappropriate notification - in perticular "Campaigning: Posting a notification of discussion that presents the topic in a non-neutral manner" considering these edit. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 07:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was not asking him to participate in any discussion. Period. It was just an informal note from my side. Anyway, I'm no longer interested in defending myself, since I gain nothing from convincing you that I was right. Have a good day. Yes Michael?Talk 07:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 07:36, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know soliciting opinions is not canvassing, which is why I told you that to tell people you were soliciting you should note that on the talk page. I have no idea what Mike Lynch has done, I only noticed you, so I informed you of the policy. That was not a warning, it was a goodfaith offering of advise. If you don't take it, that's your problem. Don't treat wikipedia like a WP:BATTLEGROUND, it is not. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, it is yet to be a favorable message in case you wonder if these edits could generate a favorable response or not, for what I have seen it may or may not. The message I have put requests comments and does not say what to tell in the discussion, etc. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 17:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copypaste and likely copyvio

You have copied and pasted substantial portions of the article Maratha War of Independence from the (Hindu nationalist) web site voi.org. I have tagged the article with a copypaste template, which means that what you have done might be a violation of copyright laws and, therefore, against Wikipedia policy. If you have done the same on other Wikipedia pages, please voluntarily revert your edits and begin afresh by paraphrasing the content in accordance with Wikipedia rules. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:19, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the source links are given in the reference section of the page. more about the author here from a blog on Wall Street Journal, as he is a blogger of some repute I take. Though it is not from a book so I have removed anything other than chronological aspect. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 04:43, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Referencing does not greatly affect Copyvio. You can never copy the text from another source, as that would be plagiarism. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 05:52, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The text was correctly removed. Thisthat, please see WP:COPYPASTE which gives guidance on copying text from one website and pasting it into Wikipedia. Referencing the information doesn't alleviate copyright problems. If you have any questions, let me know.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

India i.e Bharat

Hi ThisThat! I have seen your posts on the talk page of the article on India and really appreciate the fact the you are trying to contribute seriously. However, it seems that the discussion has become a bit dragging of late. A look at the discussion gives me an impression that there's, at this point at least, not much support for the changes that you are proposing in the naming. I would like to therefore request you that you step back for a while and contribute to other articles. May be you can revisit this after a considerable time has elapsed and gauge the opinion pattern then. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 09:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope as a responsible admin, you have also warned others who just maintain that 'Bharat is not an English name of India' and keep disrupting the discussion even when the discussion itself if going on, thus starting and ending with the same assumptions without considering the entire discussion in between. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 06:05, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Just to repeat the warnings that you have had already for disruptive behaviour, it was suggested that you try a request for comment. It is clear from the comments that nobody supports a change to the lead so it is really time to leave this alone. Shovon76 makes a good suggestion that you use your enthusiasm and knowledge and concentrate on other subjects. If you keep repeating the same comments again and again we may not have any choice but to stop you editing for a while as it is clearly disruptive to the project. I would rather that you do other work but note after all the warnings that you have had here and on the Talk:India page you may not get another warning. Please consider. MilborneOne (talk) 11:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope as a responsible admin, you have also warned others who just maintain that 'Bharat is not an English name of India' and keep disrupting the discussion repetitively -and therefore inviting repeated rebuttals - even when the discussion itself is going on, thus starting and ending with the same assumptions without considering the entire discussion in between. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 06:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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"Wikipedia policy (WP:IG) discourages galleries of random images of the article subject". --Redtigerxyz Talk 16:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the gallery here is well-marked with information and links to pages needed. If some images look out of the labels, please point out which ones. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 16:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Images are typically interspersed individually throughout an article near the relevant text (see WP:MOSIMAGES). However, the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images. The images in the gallery collectively must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject. Images in a gallery should be suitably captioned to explain their relevance both to the article subject and to the theme of the gallery, and the gallery should be appropriately titled (unless the theme of the gallery is clear from the context of the article). Images in a gallery should be carefully selected, avoiding similar or repetitive images, unless a point of contrast or comparison is being made."
We already have individual images of Gangadhara, with Parvati, Ardhanarishvara, as Yogishvara. There are several other aspects of Shiva (at least 108 iconographical ones in South India); all of which can not be listed and/or illustrated in the article, only some prominent depictions are enough.
"Wikipedia is not an image repository. A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons." --Redtigerxyz Talk 18:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well the thing is that it is a bit untidy to present all pictures in articles, where there may not be sufficient place and it would clutter the page presentation. I assumed that a well-labeled gallery could put more pics just so as to reinforce meaning, generality and give some specific information per picture - thereby balancing general v/s specific difference to an extent.
As it is, I agree that it is not possible to present all forms but just a few. Though that should not prevent from making a good start and hopefully the gallery will become more exhaustive.
My 2 paise. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 21:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ya. It is fine to create gallery on commons and link it from the wikipedia temple. Galleries can be used in wikipedia but they should be small and used to illustrate specific features of the subject. Multiple galleries in each relevant section can be used in Hindu temple architecture to illustrate specific features of Hindu temple architecture, but a huge gallery at the end has no meaning. See Taj Mahal where the policy of gallery is followed in spirit IMO. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:28, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RSS Image

Hi, about the image you put back, you might want to have a look at the discussion on Talk:Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh#Deletion_of_the_image. Although there is no policy barring you from putting back the image, you might want to have a look at the discussion. Lynch7 11:35, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, thanks! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 15:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mundeswari Temple

Why not! Can you manage to get some pictures so that the same can be uploaded and used in the infobox.--Nvvchar. 23:29, 3 June 2011 (UTC) There is a reference under see also which gives pictures loaded on Piccassa album by Asit Sinha. Can you request him to release these pictures under free license by changing the license tag? Without good pictures the article will not draw attention of people.--Nvvchar. 01:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 13:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have rearranged the text and reordered the references as per the prescribed format. Picasso pictorial url is shifted to external links and referencing each Picasso picture to the main text is not allowed in the text part. Please ensure that in your future articles the reference format is strictly followed or otherwise the article would be rejected on the DYK. Also, use this format [3] for referencing of google books. Can you think of an interesting hook which is duly referenced for nomination on the DYK? If you can manage a picture with free license attribution, it will add to the get up of the article. Also, pl record your observations on my talk page.--Nvvchar. 01:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Will surely do. Thank you very much for your efforts and for clarity. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 06:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I have got following message from --Arun Sinha, whom I contacted:
Message
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your interest in my web album. None of the images are too personal and can be used under free license as per policy on Wikipedia. However source of these pictures should be displayed.
Thanks
(End of message)
Now how do I include images from the album here, though I wouldn't like to consider images that have personalities and instead have the topic at hand well considered. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As now posted, they cannot be transferred to Wikicommons. Request him to change the license tag on his pictures to free use tag as per Wikicommons requirements. He can do this by clicking on the edit symbol on his pictures license tag (Rights Reserved). It should be only an Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, 2.5 Generic, 2.0 Generic and 1.0 Generic license. If not he should send an email with url address authorizing you to upload to Wikicommons his pictures without any license issues.--Nvvchar. 13:56, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
An unregistered user has posted an img in the info box, which looks nice now. I have nominated the article on DYK of 3rd June. If you want a different hook text you may add it now. I hope on these lines you would be able to post more DYKs in the future on iNdian subjects of your interest. Cheers --Nvvchar. 13:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thats great! I have contacted Mr. Arun Sinha by mail, expecting a reply in some time as per his convenience. By the way, what is a 'hook'? Is is something that attracts and catches attention? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 13:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please read the details given at the top of DYK suggestions page and also instructions and strict rules on how to suggest a hook. Follow the procedure followed by others who have posted DYKs. With time you will be an expert.--Nvvchar. 02:46, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your first DYK is through and should appear on the main page in the next few days. Cheers.--Nvvchar. 12:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jaya He!
Thank you very much for all the clarity provided. You could have added it as your own DYK but for your large hearted efforts are indeed inspiring. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 14:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your first DYK will appear on main space on 14th at 13.30 as a lead with the img. Congrats.--Nvvchar. 15:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ramlila_ground_protests

Please stop disruptive editing.Provide summary of every edit you make.Additionally try to do all edits in one go rather than several edits(if possible).You can use preview feature.Thanks.--abhishek (talk) 09:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am done thanks. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 09:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism in World Vision

Somebody has deleted a part of criticism [4] put in by you in the article World Vision without explanation. I'm not familiar with that incident in India so I can not judge here and did not revert. --MTYM (talk) 05:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 06:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

India page

Someone unreasonably removed the map of the Mauryan Empire on India article/ history section. (69.115.82.63 (talk) 08:57, 12 June 2011 (UTC))[reply]

ok, thanks. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mundeshwari Temple

Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a LOT! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 12:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot add to the DYK Que page. It is done only by the administrator after it is approved on the suggestion page by reviewers. You have to first add your article on the suggestion page under the date that you have created the article. It should be fully referenced, evry paragraph and also figures. The text for the hook in the article should also be definitely referenced in the main text only or otherwise it would be rejected. The length of the text should be more than 1600 ch without references, headings and Infobox. If an Infobox is added, it;'/ will add to the value of the article. Use minimum of images and be brief in writing the text for the same. Instructions for posting on the page are given at the head of the Suggestion Page. Please read it carefully before posting. Aslo read rules for DYK.--Nvvchar. 02:12, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please...

Thought you might be interested... p. williams is a non RS for an article on Hinduism. His field is buddhism. he has not written any peer reviewed book on Hinduism which has been published by a university press. Actually, he has not even written any books on Hinduism, as such, he is a non RS for the article. Hinduism is not his field. It is not his field of expertise. In this situation, how can he be construed to be an RS on Hinduism. The book on "buddhist thought" is also totally off-topic for the article. It is about Buddhism, not about Hinduism. as such, the book is also non-RS. Looking into WP:RS and WP:V, it would be easy to show two dozen different reasons why this citation is worthless. But, these two points would be sufficient to nuke the p.w. citation. it is likely that "brainy" christian POV eds who are only around to create mischief will refuse to accept these points. In that situation, don't argue with them and post the question "Is p.w. an RS for some point related to Hinduism" on WP:RSN. You should get the desired answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.57.226 (talk) 16:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying. Thanks for the info. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 07:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of WP:AN/EW report

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Edit warring

Hello, please stop edit warring, and just talk it over with the other editor on the talk page. Both of you are in the wrong, and you really need to just stop editing the page. Even if the other person keeps adding it in, ignore it - if there is consensus to remove then it will be removed, and no harm is done by leaving it there for an hour. Thanks, Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for notifying me. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 19:39, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maratha War of Independence

Hi,

Your edits to the above page have been revision deleted (selectively deleted) which is why you can't view them in the history. This action was carried out by MLauba, an administrator (per criteria 1 of the revision delete policy) . I reverted your additions to the page as copyright violations as they appeared to be copy and pasted from Voice of India pdf's as I detailed on the talk page, which I see you have read as you replied there. I apologise for not notifying you of my revert of your edits on your talk page as that is something I normally do and I must have overlooked it.

I assume you are following the procedure here to gain permission to use this text in this article. If you get permission to use the text then the deleted edits can be restored so there will be no need to re-type them. (Please note this won't help with any POV concerns other editors may have raised.) Hope this helps, regards, ascidian | talk-to-me 05:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Oil mafia of Maharashtra

Hello! Your submission of Oil mafia of Maharashtra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at TTDYK, hook still needs improvement. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboardThigle (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A brief review of your edits show ownership issues, edit-warring, issues with canvassing, and a massive misunderstanding of reliable sourcing. Added together, this is becoming significantly disruptive. I really recommend that you begin to edit in a far more collegial and non-tendentious manner. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:44, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ThisThat2011, I noticed at the DRN that some users were unduly talking against you only because they did not seem to know about Thigle's editing habits. He is shouting all the time and even brags about it and his sense of sourcing policy is zero. And he is also adamantly unwilling to move forward from zero. I recommend that you delete most of the content of this talk page. There's nothing which stops you from doing that.-117.198.54.181 (talk) 02:49, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest Thisthat2011 not do as the IP says; of course, there is nothing stopping you from doing that. But then, users doing so (esp removing warnings, notices etc) are not held in high regard. Of course, nothing can be deleted permanently; it is always stored in the history. Lynch7 05:18, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why is anyone bothered about what stays on my talk page? Look at the timestamp, a snake indeed that bites! ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 08:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copy-editors

Hi, you might be interested in this page, which is a bit old and probably needs improvement. Tony (talk) 15:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC) PS and I've read the thread above: please calm down and trust BWilkins and other admins. Tony (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 2011

Your addition has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. I've just seen your edits to multiple articles and you keep adding text directly copied from the source. It appears that you've been alerted to this before too. SpacemanSpiff 06:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please elaborate why I am notified just now about "http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/contributionsurveyor/survey.php" page just now?
I could have used the tool myself.
I would like this tool to be prominently displayed for new editors so that it does not become an issue at all later for periodic reporting etc. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 10:10, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CCI Notice

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Stop

Stop reinserting the copyvios again and again over multiple articles. —SpacemanSpiff 10:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have reworded the whole paragraphs so as to explain meaning but not contents. Therefore these are not copyvios at all. Example: [1], etc. These are reverted without even looking at them. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 10:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I'm sure he did look at them. I would have reverted also, the material is still substantially the same. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. If you don't stop I'll have to block you for copyright violations. Dougweller (talk) 10:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I am not sure how do I contribute to this other than rewording the whole substance, which is what I understand as not amounting to copyright violation.
Let me know how I can contribute, for everything I am doing is reverted in a way it is not even observable. For example, the B.B.C. controversies page, I can not link the edits I did since its history for the said pages is not even visible. In such a case, it is difficult even to understand how my edits today, i.e. rephrasing etc. and removing anything that looks like copyvio and thus contributing to is anything else. Please let me know how to go about it. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 10:41, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ThisThat2011, many editors (even experienced ones) have difficulty understanding what is copyvio, and how close paraphrasing is also a copyvio. That close paraphrasing constitutes a copyvio is correct and it is a serious problem for Wikipedia. Please do not reinsert anything unless you are sure that it is not a copyvio. I am the IP and have decided to register now. Let those edits be reverted. There is no harm in having them reverted. Actually it is necessary and opposing it is of no use. It will only complicate matters further. Even if you think something is important, and needs to be stated in the article, it needs to be reworded substantially or completely. Before reinserting anything, please wait for some time so that you can get a hang of it. Trying to rush things is not good.-MangoWong (talk) 12:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have had sufficient warnings not to restore copyvios, and yet you are doing just that, again, now on Kashmir. —SpacemanSpiff 12:14, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The matter was deleted, after copyvio edits and has nothing to do with copyvio.
The material is not of my own writing, and both copies of the same were deleted instead of keeping one. Hence I have restored one copy. It has nothing to do with copyvio. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011
Seriously, if you don't understand why copyvios are removed and shouldn't be restored, you shouldn't be editing here. It doesn't matter if you wrote the original text or someone else wrote it, you can not restore such content. Please stop this. —SpacemanSpiff 12:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SpacemanSpiff, it is obvious that ThisThat2011 does not understand what is a copyvio. Instead of asking him to stop editing, the difficulty can be solved by explaining what is a copyvio. Earlier on, he had asked for an explanation as to where he is wrong so that he could avoid repeating the mistake. The issue has not been explained adequately to him. Please let me try to explain my understanding of what is a copyvio. ThisThat2011, the problem is not that you are not using your own wording. The problem is that you are not using your own wording. When you use a source, you can only use them to gather some information. But you cannot use their wording. You must restate the same thing in your own , completely new words, to avoid doing a copyvio. You are not doing that and that is the problem.--MangoWong (talk) 13:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The most of the images in this article are from https://picasaweb.google.com/arusinha/Mundeshwari, where the author Arun Sinha has it under the license "All rights reserved" making it unsuitable for Wikicommons and Wikipedia usage. Do you have any proof that Arun Sinha has released it under Attribution 2.5 Generic (CC BY 2.5)? Does he realize that the license is NOT restricted to Wikicommons? Please use Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission to get proper permission from Arun Sinha. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I have done correspondence with the said person.
I was given rights to upload it which I have put as comments when I uploaded the images, such that there are no issues with copyright by the said person i.e. Arun Sinha.
I have mentioned it here & here.

..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 14:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow the procedure detailed at User_talk:Fæ#Mundeshwari_Temple to resolve the issues of the images. If that's done we don't have to worry about the images at least, but if not, they will have to be deleted too. —SpacemanSpiff 13:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Your addition to Kashmiri Pandit has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Sitush (talk) 17:43, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are these [| edits] referred to here? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 17:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please respond to the query on the talk page of this article before making major edits. Thank you. --Saddhiyama (talk) 23:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I am not sure that you would appreciate any response, Saddhiyama. TT is becoming increasingly tendentious. Suggest that you just follow the consensus and save yourself some time. - Sitush (talk)

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