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Iranian fencers

Thanks for expanding the stubs I started last night and apologies for using lang-ar instead of lang-fa! Lugnuts (talk) 08:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

you are welcome. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Referencing.

In case you missed the message at Talk:Iran at the 1976 Summer Olympics when you again revemoved the inline references and note, wp:v states "using an inline citation [...] This policy is strictly applied to all material in the mainspace—articles, lists, sections of articles, and captions—without exception".

You also can't quote external links in edit summaries which don't mention the numbers you change, and leave the original inline citation contradicting your numbers as you did at [1].

Please read wp:v before making any more edits. -- Jeandré, 2011-04-10t12:48z

This is meant to be a general page, if readers want details, then they can go to a specific article. As for references, this is a general ref which cover all the informations, so why would more specific citations be needed? all informations except the flagbearer which I put a ref for that. you can't understand it ? ok , go and see List of 2006 Winter Olympics medal winners, List of 2010 Winter Olympics medal winners and etc as featured lists. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Re removal of note of only 5 rounds, again. Please reread the first sentence at Talk:Iran at the 1976 Summer Olympics#Referencing.

Your page reference for shooting was incorrect - it must be the page numbers as shown at the bottom corner of the document, not as shown in the PDF viewer. If this is true for the other sections also, please fix when you have time. -- Jeandré, 2011-07-17t21:09z

Reliable source for 1982 Asian Games

Hi Mohsen, as you're quite active on Asian Games related articles, may be you could help me to find reliable source(s) for these Games. I've only knowledge of Sports123.com, but its reliability has been questioned. If you've access to some other source (about the results and medalists) than please let me know..Thanks Bill william compton^Talk 03:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, all the infos on Sports123.com are coming from www.doha-2006.com. unfortunately this website isn't working anymore but I have recorded most of the pages and I have it. but some pages are still available via archive.org. for example Athletics medalists. I searched a lot about this and I found some mistakes in these lists but the majority of them are correct. also I have some singles sources for some sports. Which sport is your question related to ?

also, did you ever work with google archive ? try this link you can find some interesting informations about the games on old newspapers. Mohsen1248 (talk)

The question is not mine, some editor doubted the reliability of Sports123.com on the Peer review of this article (please take a look at the Giants2008 comments on this page). I know this is one of the most widely used reference on many Asian Games related articles, but I don't know how to answer his question. And thanks for reminding me about Google archive, I just forgot about this very good source of information. If you've any time, then please try to answer the query of Giants2008 on the review page..Bill william compton^Talk 13:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't know too, how a source can be reliable ? anyhow, you can use this or this for Boxing, the second source is official and very reliable. this one for swimming. Badminton and Table tennis. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, you're really helpful..Bill william compton^Talk 02:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

you are welcome Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Please crosscheck the 2011 Asian Winter Games medal table

Hello Mohsen, its again me, hey please crosscheck this article, specially in terms of provided sources. I spent a lot of time on net searching for reliable sources but you'll wonder that almost all have some sort of inconsistency with respect to others; like some says total sport events were 65, on the contrary some says the number was 69, etc. Worst part is that their official website is not working and even OCA's official website is also not updated. I've found this web archive, which also doesn't have sufficient information. Their is no sufficient media coverage of the Games, at least on web bases. As you've great access to sources, so I'm wondering if you could help me on this because if sourcing become substantial than I'd nominate it for Featured List and just to let you know that 1982 Asian Games medal table is now a featured list candidate, Thanks. Bill william compton^Talk 13:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I know what's the problem, at the first, 65 events were scheduled, but the organizers added some events just some days before the start. the correct number is 69, but you may find 70 on some sources because of Ice hockey tournament (premier division as a separate event). you can see this edit when a user changed the number of events when the official website changed it.

this website is a copy of official website. not sure if it's reliable but I have downloaded all the reports from the official website and all of them are set with this website.

I can't see any problem about sourcing in the page, the only mistake is about Iran's first ever medal, your source is about iran's first cross country medal, Iran won a medal in Alpine events some days earlier. ([source, unfortunately in persian). Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi [I was busy in real life so replying a little late], well the main problem is that not all the sources are considered reliable. The source for Iran on article is about its first ever medal in cross country (of course in Asian Games)–"Iran bags first ever Asian Games cross country medal" (not a first ever medal in any event, for this I can use reference provided by you, I'd deal with the translation problem). The sources are still insufficient, if you've any type of access then please provide references for following:-

1. Indonesia didn't send any athlete, but an official.
2. Kyrgyzstan won its first ever medal in Games.
3. Number of athletes participated, whether the count was 991, >1000, 1100, etc (I found all of these in different sources).

I just need three sources which could prove these claims and to make this article fit for featured list. I know you are a busy person [do lots of work on sports articles], but if you've any time then please help me on this and also give me some suggestions over how to reserve record of such dynamic sources and websites. I really have high ambitions with Asian Games and related articles to make them good and featured as much as possible, as you also know that non of Asian Games related article is in featured or good articles category; for this I'm also considering a lobbying for the formation of a separate Wiki Project related to Asian Games (or by the name of "Sport in Asia" with broad coverage) as there are very few users (like you) which have interest on this topic. If you've any interest and idea then please let me know, I'm looking forward to work with you on this, thanks. Bill william compton^Talk 14:33, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I searched a lot about it , but can't find any reliable source. about the number of athletes, I think it's better to go with oacasia website (991), because in these type of games, the initial number of athletes is bigger than the real number. also Ocasia website is the most reliable source for these things.

for Kyrgyzstan, it's obviously their first medal but how we can evidence it by a single source ? I don't know ! The only solution come to my mind is using all medal tables (1986-2007) (www.olympic.kg is not working right now, maybe it can help) !!! for Indonesia, they participated in the openning ceremony, but they had no athlete, I checked the official website when it was working. (also I have all the results and Indoesnia isn't there) maybe you have to wait some months ! because archive.org will be available after 6 months ! (4 months is still remaining).

about the Asian Games, the biggest problem is lack of info and reference ! (for Olympics, all official reporst are available) it's a big obstacle to make a page featured. I have no special idea about a new wiki project. currently Asian Games is a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Multi-sport events which is not really active. also I found [Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Asian Games this]. most of the users care about 1 or 2 sports, unlike me, I like and follow almost all sports. that's why I'm making most of these pages ! lol. Mohsen1248 (talk) 18:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I was thinking if there could be any newspaper article or any such thing which just say a single sentence that "Kyrgyzstan won its first ever medal", it doesn't matter in which event they won, well I'll raise this issue on WP:RSN and for new Wiki Project — Asian Games, I'd like to present this brief presentation:

Name of the WP – WikiProject Asian Games [or Sport Asia]

Goals – Create and improve articles whose content has connection with the list provided below (under "Scope"). This project will cover all the multi-sports events of Asia and its regions (East, West, Central, North-East and South), all the Asian Championships, sports originated or mostly played in Asia (e.g. Taekwondo, Kabaddi, Karate, Judo, Wushu, Sepak takraw, Yoga, etc).

Scope of the project:-

By rough and fast test of checking linked articles, Asian Games cover >2,600 articles and still hundreds of notable subjects seeking their place on Wikipedia, which may increase this count over 3500 articles.

• ASEAN ParaGames
• Asian Beach Games
• Asian Games
• Asian Indoor Games
• Asian Indoor-Martial Arts Games
• Asian Martial Arts Games
• Asian Para Games
• Asian Youth Games
• Children of Asia International Sports Games
• East Asian Games
• Central Asian Games
• Southeast Asian Games
• South Asian Games
• West Asian Games
• All the Sports Championships of Asia (e.g. Wrestling, Weightlifting, Field Hockey,etc)
• All the biographical articles of Asian athletes and sports-persons
• Sports originated in Asia

Current situation:–

1. Under WikiProject Multi-sports event, almost a dead project [even its coordinator (AngChenrui) is also not active since December].
2. [As much I know], none of the Asian Games related article has featured or even good article status; most sorrowful state that only very few articles are even in B-class category.
3. Users are still confused about the scope of WP:Olympics and WP:MSE, as they clash on the talk pages of many articles.

Any current proposal – Yes, there is a [dead] proposal made on November 2010, but the proposer is also not active, also there is no description. This proposal seems like to talk about only Asian Games, not like this new proposal.

Hope, this brief description has introduced you with my idea of this project. Please comment on this and tell me if you've any innovative idea about it, thanks. Bill william compton^Talk 15:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

looks like a good idea, but first be sure that it won't end like MSE project. not sure how many users are interested.

but I have another note about 1982 Asian Games medal table, the map is wrong, it's the current map and ex-soviet countries didn't exist at the time of 1982. I know it must be really difficult to change the map, but change it, if it's possible. Mohsen1248 (talk) 21:39, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I know the complications related to this notion of new Wiki Project, this is a reason I'm consulting with you. If you think it's a good idea then I hope you'd help me on this. It would be really helpful if you make contact with some other user(s) who have worked on Asian Games related article(s), so that we may know about different perspectives, I'll try my best in contacting users interested in Asian Games and thanks for citing this terrible mistake I made with this map, but I've changed it, not a big deal for an aspiring computer science engineer!!

Hey, if you want then you may join me to work on this portal of Asian Games, which I've just created yesterday..--Bill william compton^Talk 18:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

For your hard work and due diligence

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I'm presenting you this reward for your tireless contribution to Asian Games related articles without sacrificing quality. Bill william comptonTalk 14:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Asian Weightlifting

What were the full results of the 69kg men event for this tournament? The source you provided does not work. Thanks. 70.55.215.63 (talk) 15:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

well, It was working when I checked it some hours ago, I have this PDF file,

1) LIN Qingfeng (CHN), 152+176=328

2) KIM Un Dok (PRK), 135+173=308

3) KATULU Ravi Kumar (IND), 139+167=306

4) VIDANAGE Chinthana Geethal (SRI), 132+167=299

5) MENDIBAEV Bakhram (UZB), 127+157=284

6) SANGOV Nizom (TJK), 120+135=255

7) PARK Sang-Min (KOR), 110+130=240

No rank) ADHIKARI Kamal Bahadur (NEP), NM+140=NM

No rank) REZAEIAN Morteza (IRI), 141+NM=NM

No rank) KIM Kum Sok (PRK), 136+NM=NM. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!! 70.55.215.63 (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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New coordinator

I have opened up a new discussion on WikiProject Multi-sport, about appointing a new coordinator. Please leave your thoughts there. Thank you. [2] Intoronto1125TalkContributions 03:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Calender of 1951 Asian Games

Hi Mohsen, I observed you changed the calender table modified by me, I assume you must have some special reason behind this, but could you please tell me what reason you had?, because it's a pretty much common trend to represent the number of finals per day by using bullets inspite of numeral count. — Bill william compton^Talk 12:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought it's obvious, it's good for 2008 Olympics (for example) when we have a single page per event, but here, I think it's useless. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you didn't read me correctly, I asked about bullets. I was also not in favor of multiple wikilinks and might remove them after I had finished my work; well it's my fault, I should have tagged article for "underconstruction", but I don't get what is problem in using bullets? If there is not any then please restore them. — Bill william compton^Talk 14:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I made some changes, take a look. But the current outcome is a little ugly. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Coordinator needed

Hi Mohsen, would you be interested in becoming a coordinator for the Asian multi sporting events under the Wikipedia:WikiProject Multi-sport events? Intoronto1125TalkContributions 02:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh no thanks, I will do what I can to improve all these pages but I won't take any responsibility. being just a member is better for me. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:46, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Basically, you become the leader when it comes to these events (there really is not extra work involved) Intoronto1125TalkContributions 15:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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1962 World Wrestling Championships

1962 World Wrestling Championships

free style: iran 2 gold medal but japan only 1 gold medal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lkxcnldsf (talk • contribs) 13:57, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Team ranking is counted by points, not medals. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Asian Games task force

Hello, we [at the WikiProject Multi-sport events] are considering to make a separate task force for the Asian Games related article. So, we are hoping ideas and suggestions from other project members too. Please join the discussion, thanks. — Bill william compton^Talk 04:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Cut and paste moves

Please avoid cut and paste moves as you did with India Women's National Basketball Team, see WP:CWW and WP:CPM. If you want to move the article, see WP:MOVE.--Muhandes (talk) 22:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

The Asian Games Task Force Invitation!

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	Hello fellow Wikipedian! I just wanted to let you know that Asian Games task force is looking for participants and I thought you might be interested in joining! Check out our project page, and if you like what you see, join us by adding your name to our membership list.
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2011 AFC Futsal Club Championship‎‎

salam. chera hamash barmigardoni? --saeedparva 14:01, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

chon formate ghalatie va bayad bargarde, in format be darde league mikhore na tournament, beshe 3 edit ham majbur misham gozareshe takhalof bedam. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

shoma noee Format ro tashkhis midin? dalil galat bodan chiye?--saeedparva 14:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

inja yechizi be esme "manual of style" dare, ye tournament football ya futsal ba in format peyda kon baad sohbat mikonim ! omidvaram farghe league ba tournament ro bedooni. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

in ke dalil nashod. shayad dost nadashtan az in format estefade konan ya ba in format ashna nabodan. dalil mantegi bayad avord. aya in format karaee lazem ro nadare ya chiz dige. darzemn shoma neveshte man ro bedon dalil bargardondi va man hage shekayat daram na shoma.--saeedparva 14:11, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

man bahs nemikonam, mashallah archive talke football project kheyli ziade, alan nemitoonam linkesho peyda konam vali hast, inja ghanoon dare, hala begzarim ke hameye editat naghze ghanoone, man be oonash kari nadaram ta vaghti be man rabti nadare, vali hamin alan 3 ta revert kardi, man 2 ta, in ghanoonesh age man revert konam va bargardooni va man gozaresh konam blocket mikonan (chon bish az 3 ta revert yani block). age ghanonam nemitooni bekhooni begoo barat tarjome konam. man doost nadaram blocket konan, pas inbar edite mano barnagardoon chon gozaresh mikonam bedoone shak. shoma ham boro shekayat kon bebin chi mishe, unvaght shayad hameye page hayi ke sakhti be report bedam bishtaresho pak konan chon kollan hich referenci nazashti. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

kodom safeh bedon manba hast? aksaran manba daran. bad block baram mihem nist. shoma baraye man hatman peyda kon va behem neshon bede. man bar nemigardonam vali ontorish mikonam.--saeedparva 14:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

ghavanin ziad vazeh nist, vali age edite sobhet ham hesab beshe, hamin alan 4 ta edit kardi, man chon motmaen nistam edite avalam hesab mishe ya na, dige felan edit nemikonam ta motmaen nabasham barnemigardooni chon alan ke mikham gozaresh rad kardam vase khodam bad nashe, man aslan doost nadaram masael gheire doostane hal beshe vali vaghti chareyi nist manam majbur misham, dooste aziz shoma boro formate masalan 2010 AFC Champions League ya 2010–11 UEFA Champions League group stage ya har mosabeghe digeyi (World Cup, AFC Cup and etc) too wiki ro negah kon, hame hamin joorie, (ba yekam taghir ke unam hanuz standardesh nakardan) az oon jadvale ajib gharib faghat vase league estefade mikonan, inja ke kasi promote ya relegate nemishe ke , boro hamin linkayi ke goftamo avaz kon bebin karbaraye oonja chikaret mikonan, aslan shak nadaram ke age kar be gozaresh ya third opinion ya harchi dige bekeshe hagho be man midan, vali nemikham kar be oonja bekeshe, chon aslan lazem nis vaghti mishe doostane hal kard, khodamam doost nadaram ! dar zemn in ke man inja finglish minevisam ham be nafe shomast chon age gozaresh konam badan mitooni begi man behet ekhtar nadadam, baraye hamin az baad az in english minevisam. pas man alan revert konam dige ? bar nemigardooni ? Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:41, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

bebinid ta ye jae hag ba shomas ta ye jaee hag ba man. onja ke migi jaee estefadeh nashode doroste estefade nashode chon tamaman copy peste safehaye gabli hastesh va in kamelan malome. masalan to ye tempelati man rang ro avaz kardam hame sedashon daromad dar hali ke chand roz bad be rang man bargashtan. ina ganon nist ina orfe va gabele taghir. age nagze ganon kardam harfe shoma doroste va bayad jolosh vaysin. vali harfr manam doroste chon in jadval chizi kam nadare ke begin chon in ro nadare pas galate. darzemn bedalil inke khodesh emtiyaz ya tafazol goal ro hesab mikone dagigtar ham hast.--saeedparva 15:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Avalan ke man akharesh nafahmidam ke revert konam ya na, vase in miporsam ke age mikhaid dobare bargardooni hamin alan bedoone inke revert konam beram too in safhe report bedam, age takhalof bashe ke hichi, khodeshoon midoonan ba shoma, agaram nabashe man ghanoonan mitoonam ye reverte dige bokonam.

badesham dar morede ghavanin, wikipedia bejoz ghavanin yechiz dare be esme MOS (Manual of Style) ke in momkene taghir kone, masalan baraye sakhteane safhe va harchi ye style standard daran ke bayad hame eine in bashe, age kasi khoshesh naiad mitoone bere bege age hagh ba oon bud avaz mikonan, in jadval ke shoma migi hichi kam nadare, vali kolli chiz ezafe dare, hesab kardan emtiaz va goal diff ham baraye 8 ta team kare besiar asoonie, az roo jadvale AFC copy mikonam ! age shak dari boro hamoon page AFC Champions League ro masalan intori kon bebin baghie chetor barkhord mikonan, shak nakon ke sari revert mikonan, man ozve football project nistam va detaile kareshoon ro nemidoonam vali mikhai boro too talk pageshoon bepors bebin che javabi midan, inke shoma rango avaz kardi baghie chizi nagoftan, avalan momkene jozve MOS nabude, badesham shayad oon baghie peygir nabudan, vali moteasefane man hastam va intori nis ke masalan 1 mah dige yadam bere, na, in page to watch liste mano, harki editesh kone mifahmam, beharhal man alan in page ro revert mikonam, shoma ham ta 24 saat ghanoonan hagh nadari inkaro bokoni, ke anjam bedi khalafe ghanoone, mikhai boro az azaye Football Project bepors bebin chi migan, football bishtarin article to inja dare va vaghti mohemtarin tournament mesle UEFA Champions League be ye sheklie in yani hatman saresh tavafogh kardan, football project 60 safhe talk page to archive dare man nemitoonam beram hame ro check konam. vali migam age shak dari boro too talk pageshoon 2ta jadvalo bezar bebin chi migan. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

ejaze midin kart zard haro ham garar bedam. ya jadval golzanan ro ijad konam?--saeedparva 13:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

gozashtane Kart zardha too MOS football project nist va ezafi hesab mishe vali jadvali golzana khube ke bashe. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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2011 Asian Athletics Championships

Hello, would you be interested in helping with the results section of this article? Intoronto1125TalkContributions 02:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

for the main page yes for sure. but I'm not sure that such unimportant championship need a single page for all single events. Mohsen1248 (talk) 13:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, the European Championships have single articles for every event. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 13:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

But European Championships is a major tournament in high level, Asian Championships isn't. you can see the records and number of athletes per event. also I don't like some of the policies of Wikipedia:WikiProject Athletics and because of that I prefer to stay away from them as far as possible. but Ok I will do it. thanks for telling me. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

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I would like you to help me in 1986 ABC Championship for Women for now and i would need your help in the 3 championship that follows they are all archieved in fiba.com

Hi, I was planned to create that pages, but I'm a little busy with other things, Probably I will do it in few days. Mohsen1248 (talk) 10:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)