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This is the discussion page of Tambayan Philippines, where Filipino contributors and contributors to Philippine-related articles discuss general matters regarding the development of Philippine-related articles as well as broad topics on the Philippines with respect to Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects. Likewise, this talk page also serves as the regional notice board for Wikipedia concerns regarding the Philippines, enabling other contributors to request input from Filipino Wikipedians.

Wikipedia Meetups

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Full Meetup Calendar • Events calendar on Meta For meetups in other languages, see the list on Meta

Meetups have so far been held in eleven areas in the Philippines:

• Manila (Metro Manila)
• Cebu
• Naga
• Lingayen
• Tacloban
• Calbayog
• Palo
• Catbalogan
• Catarman
• Guiuan
• Borongan

Interactive events

• Chat via Chatroll
• Group Chat via RumbleTalk
• Web stream via Livestream

See also

• Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines
• Wikimedia Philippines

External Link

• Meetup page of Waray Wikipedia

Philippine Wikimedia Conference

Hi guys. A few weeks ago, Scorpion prinz posted a section here on the Tambayan about a proposed Philippine Wikimedia Conference. Wikimedia Philippines will be pushing through with this project, and the conference is (tentatively) scheduled for February 2012. We can use volunteers and, most importantly, people who will come! Anyone interested? :) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 06:30, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I was planning to make it October 2012. :)--Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 15:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Well either way, I'm hoping people will be interested in showing up. After all, it's supposed to be the community's conference. ;) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 00:59, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

West Philippine Sea

There is disagreement on the inclusion of the term West Philippine Sea in the Philippines article. Input is requested. 14:01, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Use South China Sea. I don't like to be like the Koreans who'd insist on using "East Sea" on the Sea of Japan (dunno if they do that in Wikipedia). –HTD 15:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

The Great Wikimedia Philippines Membership Drive is back! :P

Several times over the last five years, the group of Wikipedians (all Tambayan regulars at one point or another) which eventually established Wikimedia Philippines have called for Filipino Wikipedians to join the chapter so that we can better-advance in the real world the reasons why we are here on Wikipedia: sharing free knowledge. It came to a point where we had up to almost 50 interested participants, but after restarting when the chapter was formed, only a handful have joined since. If you want to help make Wikipedia's dreams a reality, come join us today!

Remember: anyone can join Wikimedia Philippines, whether or not you're Filipino, young or old, living in the Philippines or abroad. We can really use the involvement of more Wikipedians in how the chapter is run and the projects the chapter should do, so we really hope all Filipino Wikipedians can come together and make Wikipedia's vision a reality. So what are you waiting for? :) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 15:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Ferdinand Marcos and TfD:Template:The Marcoses

Members of this project, please come and have a look at TfD:Template:The Marcoses. There is a discussion there which is highly relevant to your project. In the course of considering a proposal to delete Template:The Marcoses I discovered that links to articles about many opponents of, and some collaborators with, Ferdinand Marcos are not linked to the text in his article, merely to this concealed and badly named navbox, which is now proposed for deletion. These include Insurgency in the Philippines, New People's Army, Moro National Liberation Front, Assassination of Ninoy Aquino, NAMFREL and People Power Revolution. Also, Constitution of the Philippines is a link hidden underneath alternative text, and Rolex 12 only appears without elaboration under "See also". Some of these are in danger of being orphaned. I sincerely hope that someone here will take an interest in rectifying the situation. Thanks. Rubywine . talk 22:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Template:The Marcoses

I have opened a discussion topic Template name and contents at Template_talk:The_Marcoses. Rubywine . talk 10:23, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Articles on Philippine Scripts

The articles "Baybayin" and "Ancient Philippine Scripts" should be merged. They largely overlap in subject matter.

Both need improvement. "Baybayin" proposes to describe six hypotheses about the origins of the old Philippine writing system, and actually lists five. It states the proposed source supported by each theory, but does not identify who proposed it or where. "Ancient Philippine Scripts" does name the authors, but fails to give any further reference. Bibiographically, this sucks. The reader will probably resort to Google to try to suss out the missing info, and will be treated instead to a gazillion quotes and rip-offs of--Wikipedia! Full bibliographical citations, conformed to the standards of Turabian or other generally accepted authority, are what we need. Also the discussion should be updated. There are two recent new proposals for an origin of the Philippine scripts, Comandante's fanciful idea that the system is 5000 years old and the letters based on shapes on the shells of giant clams, and Miller's derivation of the consonants from the Gujarati abugida. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen.r (talk • contribs) 05:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Benigno Aquino, Jr. + Ferdinand Marcos = EDIT WARS!

Hello, everyone. I am a Wikipedia newbie- I only started editing last June, when I volunteered to do some research on Ferdinand Marcos' war record. Since then I have tried my hand at editing Wikipedia, and it's been both easier and harder than I expected. The pages of Benigno Aquino, Jr. and Ferdinand Marcos are particularly problematic. The discussion pages of both have numerous comments regarding unsourced assertions and the lack of a NPOV (in contrast, Corazon Aquino seems to be more or less acceptable). My attempts at addressing both issues have been stymied by the efforts of Rubywine, who seems to have grave doubts as to my impartiality. I have tried to engage Rubywine in dialogue several times, but instead she has reported me for Vandalism and conducted an edit war. I am quite distressed by the manner in which Rubywine refuses to engage in dialogue and threatens editors unless they edit articles in a manner pleasing to her. I have no wish to escalate the edit war, so I am putting off work on these two pages for the meantime. As I mentioned, I am a newbie, so feedback and guidance from the experienced editors here would be appreciated. Thanks for your time! Elchori01 (talk) 07:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

May I suggest for areas were you cannot find an agreement to request for comment from other non-involved members of the larger editing community. If you believe that is an EW going on, there is an appropriate board that specializes with dealing with such things.

Also read WP:AVOIDEDITWAR, that may assist you. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Ambos Camarines, opinion anyone?

In my opinion, the history of Ambos Camarines during World War 2 should not be found on the article, because it was already extinct decades before WWII erupted. IP range 112.198.79.XX, in good faith, keeps on adding information about such "Battle of Ambos Camarines", which, according to his edits, was one of the major Allied powers victory during the war. I did a little Google searches, Battle of Camarines (web), Battle of Camarines (books), Battle of Ambos Camarines (web) and Battle of Ambos Camarines (books): all of searches made didn't mention anything about the WWII. Since I doubt the veracity of the facts added by the editor, I removed all of them. Any opinion?--— JL 09 ^talk_contribs    21:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

• He also did some edits to 5th Infantry Division saying that it existed in WWII liberation campaigns though it was created in 1989.
• Also in 10th Infantry Division, created in 2006, he said that it also helped in WWII liberation.

I guess this user will invoke a "potential problem" if he keeps on adding "Battle of xxxx" stuff on Philippine articles. I mean, well, this thing and information could exist in Philippine military history books, but at least, we need verifiable information here, rather than clinging to something.--— JL 09 ^talk_contribs    22:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

See WP:BURDEN. It is up to the adding editor to included verifiable reliable sources to support any added material to an article. If they do not, any editor may remove the content per BURDEN. If the editor continues to follow this course of action, assume good faith, remove the material, and politely inform/warn them that they are not following accepted community practices. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:26, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

2007 census

I've started to update the towns in Iloilo with 2007 census information from here: 2007 Census results. Is this the best source for 2007 census data? Has the 2010 census data been released anywhere yet? PaintedCarpet (talk) 07:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Data from the 2010 census should have already been made available, but the PSGC (Philippine Standard Geographic Code) database only has population figures as of August 1, 2007. I wonder what's taking the NSO and NSCB so long to release the data in question. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 12:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Re: SC reverses its ruling on the cityhood of 16 towns, again!

Referring to previous discussions on the subject (see here and here), I've noticed that of the 16 cities which have been validated as such [1], the List of cities in the Philippines mentions none while only Batac, Tandag, and Taybayas are shown to be cities on the List of cities and municipalities in the Philippines, which apart from does not separately list the province of Dinagat Islands.

Also, has Bauan, Batangas accomplished cityhood? Otherwise, these edits should be undone:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bauan%2C_Batangas&action=historysubmit&diff=420957785&oldid=404819267
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bauan,_Batangas&diff=next&oldid=423174525
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_cities_and_municipalities_in_the_Philippines&diff=next&oldid=404294112
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_cities_and_municipalities_in_the_Philippines&diff=next&oldid=413327227
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_cities_and_municipalities_in_the_Philippines&diff=next&oldid=413328010

--Emaster82 (talk) 20:15, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Ginamos

Can anybody tell me if ginamos is the same thing as bagoong alamang? I want to bluelink references of ginamos to Shrimp Paste, but if bagoong alamang and ginamos are different products, then ginamos would need its own mention. Thanks. PaintedCarpet (talk) 03:57, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Guinamos or Ginamos refers specifically to fermented fish (usually anchovies) in Visayan. Equivalent to the Tagalog Bagoong isda ("Fish bagoong"). The problem is that Northern Filipinos, AFAIK, use Bagoong to usually refer to the fish kind, but it's technically a word that includes other kinds of fermented food.

Bagoong alamang (simply Alamang or Uyap in Visayan languages), is of course, made with shrimp. So no. Ginamos is not equivalent to Bagoong alamang, in popular usage it is equivalent to Bagoong, in specific usage it is equivalent to Bagoong isda.

You should bluelink Ginamos to Bagoong instead. It contains an explanation there too.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 04:32, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

There's the explaination I was looking for. Thanks! PaintedCarpet (talk) 06:24, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed name changes - multi-move discussion about bird names

Readers here may be interested in contributing to the naming discussion taking place at Talk:Palawan Peacock-pheasant#Requested move. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)