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:: A century is not a date. The removal of such wikilinks is controversial and not a proper use for AWB. Stop removing century wikilinks in mass. [[User:Dolovis|Dolovis]] ([[User talk:Dolovis|talk]]) 01:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:: A century is not a date. The removal of such wikilinks is controversial and not a proper use for AWB. Stop removing century wikilinks in mass. [[User:Dolovis|Dolovis]] ([[User talk:Dolovis|talk]]) 01:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Your opinion does not make a controversy. Where is this subject being discussed in WP? And I expect you would object if I was doing the removal manually, so AWB is not relvevant here. Centuries, years, etc are all dates; they are discussed in the same sections of [[:WP:MOS]] and [[:WP:DATE]]. Please read. [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] ([[User talk:Hmains#top|talk]]) 04:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Your opinion does not make a controversy. Where is this subject being discussed in WP? And I expect you would object if I was doing the removal manually, so AWB is not relvevant here. Centuries, years, etc are all dates; they are discussed in the same sections of [[:WP:MOS]] and [[:WP:DATE]]. Please read. [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] ([[User talk:Hmains#top|talk]]) 04:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::In addition, the rule for linking is that items get linked only they provide additional information relevant to the article. Take your article, look at the text, look at the century article; explain what relevant information is being provided from the century article for your article. [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] ([[User talk:Hmains#top|talk]]) 04:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

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I maintain this page by deleting items after a week or two. Hmains (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monobook

You may wish to make use of a 'Dates' tab in edit mode that will help with unlinking unnecessary date links. Simply copy the entire contents of User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. It also provides a 'Units' tab. If you know what you are doing, you can copy and modify the subfiles as you wish. I just thought you might be interested. Regards. bobblewik 20:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it fails is because you refer to User:Hmains/monobook.js/dates.js and User:Hmains/monobook.js/unitformatter.js and these articles do not exist. You have two options:
Try again. I am happy to walk you through the process. So feel free to ask me again. bobblewik 12:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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1980-89

  • Arizona Governor Evan Mecham (R-AZ) Faced with recall, pending criminal charges for illegal financial dealings (of which he was later acquitted), amidst public outcry over his derogatory remarks about African-Americans and gays, and his cancellation of Arizona's observance of the Martin Luther King holiday (which led to a boycott of Arizona by various groups). He was impeached and removed from office. (1988)

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  • Maryland State Senator Clarence Mitchell III (D-MD), sentenced to 2½ years for bribery and obstruction in regards to the Wedtech scandal (1988) [1] *Maryland State Senator Clarence Mitchell III (D-MD), sentenced to 2½ years for bribery and obstruction in regards to the Wedtech scandal (1988) [1]
  • Nebraska Omaha Mayor Mike Boyle (D-NE) was recalled in a special election after being accused of misconduct in office. (1987)
  • Nebraska Attorney General Paul Douglas (D-NE) impeached for his dealings with the head of a failed savings and loan. (1984)
  • New York Lee Alexander Mayor of Syracuse, (D-NY), Was indicted in July 1987 over a $1.5 million kickback scandal and pled guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served 6 years in prison. (1988)
  • Oklahoma OkScam, or the County Commissioner scandal, A kickback scandal resulting in the conviction of 200 individuals, including over 2/3rds of the sitting county commissioners, representing 60 of the 77 Oklahoma counties. (1981–1984)

1970–1979

  • Illinois Secretary of State Paul Powell (politician) (D-IL) was found with $800,000 in cash in a shoe box in his hotel room. He died in 1970 and was never convicted (1970)
  • Illinois Governor Otto Kerner, Jr. (D-IL) Served from 1961 to 1968. Was finally convicted of bribery, conspiracy, income-tax evasion, mail fraud and perjury in connection with money he earned from racetrack stock while governor. He had been appointed a District Judge but resigned when found guilty in 1974.

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  • Maryland Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) (see Federal-level scandals), as he was not convicted until after he became Nixon's VP) Convicted (1973)

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  • New Jersey Newark mayor Hugh Addonizio (D-NJ) convicted of corruption. In the words of the judge in his case, the mayor was "literally delivering the city into the hands of organized crime".

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  • Ohio Cincinnati City Council member (and later Mayor) Jerry Springer (D) resigned in 1974 after a vice investigation uncovered that he had paid a prostitute with a personal check.

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  • Texas George Parr (D), the so-called "Duke of Duval County", suspected but never convicted of various illegal activities, including ballot box stuffing and fraud (1905–1975)

1990–1999

  • Arizona In a scandal now known as AzScam, members of the Arizona House or Senate were caught on videotape taking payoffs for favors to an undercover sting agent. Ten members resigned or were removed. (1991)

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  • Arkansas Governor William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR): See Federal-level scandals, the accusations of which followed him as US President

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  • California Senator Alan Robbins (D-CA) and Senate Insurance Committee Chairman resigned on November 21, 1991, in advance of pleading guilty to federal racketeering charges in connection with insurance-industry bribes.

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  • Florida Katherine Harris (R-FL) is elected to the State Senate in 1994 after receiving at least $20,000 in donations from key Riscorp employees who had been given bonuses specifically to enable their donations. Several other prominent Florida politicians were accused of writing preferential legislation that benefited Riscorp.

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  • Illinois state representative James DeLeo (D-IL) caught in the "Operation Greylord" investigation of corruption in Cook County. He was indicted by a federal grand jury for taking bribes and negotiated guilty plea on a misdemeanor tax offense, and was placed on probation (1992)
  • Illinois state representative Joe Kotlarz (D-IL) convicted and sentenced to jail for theft and conspiracy for pocketing in about $200,000 for a sale of state land to a company he once served as legal counsel (1997)

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  • Maryland politician Ruthann Aron (R) (Montgomery County Planning Board member and former 1994 Republican candidate for U.S. Senate) who ran on a "tough on crime" platform convicted of hiring "contract" hit man William H. Mossburg Jr., in 1997, to kill her husband and a lawyer (1998)

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  • Minnesota State Senator Sam Solon (D-MN) Pleaded guilty in 1995 to telecommunications fraud for letting his ex-wife make $2,430 in calls on his State Senate telephone line.

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  • Nebraska State Treasurer Frank Marsh (R-NE) convicted of misdemeanor charges for making personal, long-distance telephone calls (1991)

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  • New York highest court Chief Judge Sol Wachtler, scandal involving obscene telephone calls and extortion (1993)

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  • Texas Judge Sharon Keller (R) Presiding Judge of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals created controversy when she refused a retrial for a mentally disabled man, Roy Criner, despite DNA evidence which appeared to prove his innocence. In 2000, then-Governor George W. Bush pardoned Criner. See local scandals 2009 (1998)

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2000–2009

  • Alabama Birmingham Mayor Larry Langford (D-AL) was arrested on December 1, 2008 by the FBI on a 101 count indictment alleging conspiracy, bribery, fraud, money laundering, and filing false tax returns in connection with a long-running bribery scheme.

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  • Illinois City Clerk of Chicago Walter S. Kozubowski (D) was sentenced to 5 years in prison for mail fraud.
  • Illinois Alderman of Chicago John S. Madrzyk (D) sentenced to 41 months in prison for mail fraud.
  • Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White (D-IL) introduced secretary and friend Donna Lumpkins Floyd to numerous legislators, and encouraged them to give $175,000 of the taxpayers' money to her charity. However, there was no charity, and Floyd said that White destroyed all transaction records. After an investigation, the Illinois State Board of Elections fined White $800,000.
  • Illinois Chicago Hired Truck Program (2005)
  • Illinois Alderman of Chicago Percy Giles (D-IL) sentenced to 3 years in prison for racketeering, extortion, among other things in 2000.
  • Illinois Alderman of Chicago from the 20th ward Arenda Troutman (D) was arrested and charged with bribery in 2007.
  • Illinois City Clerk of Chicago Jim Laski (D-IL) pleaded guilty to pocketing bribes for steering city business to trucking companies (2006).
  • Illinois businessman Antoin Rezko, a member of Barack Obama's (D) senate fundraising committee was convicted by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of 16 felony corruption charges (June 2008)
  • Illinois The former Mayor of Cicero, Betty Loren-Maltese (R) was convicted of racketeering, wire fraud and mail fraud for her role in stealing about 12 million dollars. In addition to her 8 year prison term, she was fined $100,000 and ordered to pay more than $8 million restitution. (2003)

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  • Maryland Lobbyist Gerard E. Evans (D) convicted of fraud after dummying up legislation and collecting fees from clients to fight it
  • Maryland Banker Nathan A. Chapman Jr. found guilty of defrauding the state retirement system.
  • Maryland Police Superintendent Edward T. Norris convicted of spending police money for personal uses while Baltimore's police chief

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  • Minnesota Democratic consultant and businessman Pat Forciea (D) convicted of extensive bank fraud charges

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  • New York Alan Hevesi (D-NY) Comptroller of New York pleaded guilty in 2007 to one count of defrauding the government

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  • Nebraska Former Douglas County Election Commissioner Pat McPherson (R-NE) accused of groping a 17-year-old girl wearing Red Robin mascot. City Councilman Chuck Sigerson was accused of disturbing her piece by touching the tail of the costume. Event supposedly happened at 8 P.M. on a Friday night and at the table were two company executives, a Sunday school teacher, Sigerson's wife, and the wives of the executives. McPherson was acquitted and the jury voted to acquit Sigerson 4-2, so the prosecutor dismissed the charges. McPherson resigned from his position at the Governor's request, before the trial and acquittal; Councilman Sigerson was re-elected in 2005.

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  • New York Queens Councilman Hiram Monserrate (D-NY) charged for assaulting his girlfriend, Karla Giraldo, resulting her in an injury to the left eye (December 19, 2008)

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  • Ohio Cuyahoga County, County Commissioner, and Chairman of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party from 1994 to 2010, James "Jimmy" DiMora (D) and County Auditor Frank Russo (D) and numerous contractors are investigated for construction work done at their houses. There also was dealings of the AT Tower and proposed County Administration building improprieties dealing with asbestos removal contracting. The FBI raided DiMora's home in Independence, Ohio and Russo's home in Gates Mills, Ohio. On September 9, 2010 Russo resigned and face 21 Federal Counts and charges like Obstruction of Justice to falsifying tax returns. He could receive 20 years in prison.

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  • Ohio Cuyahoga County, County Recorder Patrick O'Malley is arrested for having pornographic images on his personal computer. He was sentenced and lost his law license. In Cuyahoga County, the recorder's office is responsible for deeds and mortgage records of the county.

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  • Pennsylvania Pittsburgh City Council Member Twanda Carlisle (D-PA) was sentenced to 12 to 24 months in prison and ordered to return $43,100 to the city after pleading no contest to three charges of theft by deception, three charges of criminal conspiracy, three charges of violation of Pennsylvania's state Ethics Act, five Election Code violations, and three charges of failing to file required financial disclosures. (2008)

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  • Washington Spokane Mayor James E. West (politician)|James West (R-WA) an opponent of gay rights, denied accusations of having molested two boys while he was a sheriff's deputy and Boy Scout leader in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but came under investigation (2005) for offering municipal jobs to men he met in gay online chat rooms. West was ousted in a recall vote December 2005. In 2006, West was cleared of criminal charges by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Local year?

  • Neil Goldschmidt (D-OR) Mayor of Portland, Admitted to an affair with a 14 yr old girl in the 1970s, which became public May

1990-

  • Gary Hart Senator (D-CO) – Seeking the Democratic nomination for president in 1988 Hart was photographed with model Donna Rice on a boat named 'Monkey Business' during a trip to the Bahamas. His popularity plummeted and he soon dropped out. (1987)
  • Ernie Konnyu (R-CA) – US Congressman had sexual harassment complaints by two female staffers. (1987)
  • Robert Bauman (R-MD) – US Congressman charged with attempting to solicit sex from a 16-year-old male prostitute. (1980)
  • Thomas Evans (R-DE) US Congressman who went golfing in FL with nude model and lobbyist Paula Parkinson who suggested her technigues were "tactile." Lost 1982 re-election bid.(1980)

Excellent work: Barnstar for you

RE: [1] Thank you for being the wikipedia restoration expert :) on so many articles about the Philippines. I keep seeing you everywhere. ;)

The Original Barnstar
This barnstar, the first on Wikipedia, is given to recognise particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. Thanks for cleaning up so many articles! Travb (talk) 13:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An Award

The Minor Barnstar
For your work on minor edits over numerous articles, including mine. Congratulations! Chris 16:03, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Random Smiley Award

For your contributions to Wikipedia and humanity in general, you are hereby granted the coveted Random Smiley Award
originated by Pedia-I
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Harrison-HB4026 01:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've done great categorization work

File:Interlingual Barnstar.png The Geography Barnstar
For all of the great work you've done in categorizing articles in Category:Geography. Thanks! Many people appreciate your work! hike395 13:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well,Sir... I too offer my Kudo's. I know how diligent your recent efforts have been. You probably know, that after You, or the others started the "Nat'l History" stuff, I then did all U.S. states, then Canada, Mexico. I did the Trees of, the "Birds of",, and I started down into "Central America", I turned the corner into the "Caribbean", but went back to "South America", first. I am actually pretty amazed how some of the Caribbean stuff turned-out, (and S. America-plus I tried some of the "Regions of" stuff) since I had no real Guideposts to go by.
Anyhow, I apllaud your diligence,.... and know-(as the Cognizant word used in the "Amarna letters") that I went through some of the states, provinces, mexico states, "What links here" page—by—page-(so I went thru 10's of 1000's of links) until finding things. I won the lottery on the Guatemalan magnolia. It ended up in the Category:Trees of Guatemala, but also Category:Indicator species of North America, (for the Cloud forest). So Dear,Sir... carry on, and have future enjoyable trips!... Michael (from the SonoranDesert(s), ..Arizona -Mmcannis 14:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I third this! Having delved briefly into editing wikipedian categories I was quickly discouraged by the complexity and mess of it all. Nice work where others (me) fear to tread. Pfly 06:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Editing Barnstar

100,000 Edits
I, Bugboy52.4, award you for reaching 100,000 edits according to the List of Wikipedians by number of edits generated 11:45 pm, 24 February 2009. Keep up the good work!________________________________________________________________


The Working Man's Barnstar
A well-deserved barnstar for all your hard work here. MarmadukePercy (talk) 04:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer Right Granted

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If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. The Helpful One 17:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Autopatroller

Hi Hmains, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature should have little to no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — ξxplicit 21:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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hold for cat discussion until find example

There are some categories that are used only for categories, and never for articles. Some of these categories have been made into 'hidden' categories, and yet they are never in fact 'hidden' since the hidden feature only applies to articles and not categories. So the hidden category always displays on the category screen as 'hidden'--which is obviously a contradiction. I suggest, that category categories not be classified as hidden. When I have tried to remove the hidden classification in such cases, someone always just adds it back in. Without something said in this categorization guideline I have nothing much justify my removal.

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De Montfort University

Hi, just wanted to thank you for tidying up the university's article. References were in a bit of a mess beforehand! Jack.OSull (talk) 13:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but I suppose that AWB automation fixed it up as I cannot manually figure out what to do with references. So AWB editors really need the thanks! Hmains (talk) 20:58, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lynx

Hello! You edited the Lynx page a while ago, and your edit broke (orphaned) the references. You may wish to double-check any automatic logic you used for this change. Cheers! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. I cannot discern what is wrong however. If AWB automation is doing something wrong, we need to tell the AWB editors; if I did something manually wrong, I need to know that also. Hmains (talk) 20:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In short: The reference list did not produce "Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named cah/iucncsg; see Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text" before your edit. At the time, I gave up looking at it, as the refs got sorted alphabetically and thus impossible to follow by hand. It seems you orphaned some live references, possibly because there were a couple duplicate ones. Not to sound too critical, but even if AWB team made a bug, it is still your responsibility in making sure the edit is good. Cheers. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:17, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that. Anyway, I got an AWB expert to find and fix an error in the article which created the General Fixes error for reference 11. Reference 5 error must have been my manual fault. Done with this now. Thanks Hmains (talk) 05:17, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Take care. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

general fixes produce a reference error resolved

Hi.I would like to inform you that archived your latest bug report since the problem was resolved. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BC/AD/BCE/CE is valuable content when century number = 1-5

I caught a couple of articles where your "copyedit, MOS and or AWB general fixes using AWB" fixes removed the designation AD after very small century numbers. E.g. Sosigenes the Peripatetic: if readers don't know if he was 2nd c. BC or 2nd c. AD, then valuable encyclopedic information has been lost. Is the problem in the automated tool or in how it's being used? If the former, I'd really appreciate it if you let the maintainers know that when the century number is 1/2/3/4/5, the following initials provide vital disambiguation! And if you've removed the correct dates anywhere besides Sosigenes and Callistratus (sophist), they need to be restored. Best regards, Wareh (talk) 19:10, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ERA is what I am using; it discourages use of AD/CE. If there were a MOS rule that followed what you said, then I would follow it. I suggest you take this up with the WP:ERA maintainers. As things are now, anyone can edit the way I have done (and many do). If something different was in WP:ERA, then I could implement it on a large scale. Hmains (talk) 22:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll edit or suggest at WP:ERA. And I'm inferring from your answer that this was not fully automatic; i.e. you were using your own intelligence and not the bot's to decide when the AD etc. should go. Wareh (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC) P.S. I wrote too quickly. I think WP:ERA is fine. It says, "Do not use CE or AD unless the date would be ambiguous without it," but you've removed AD in two cases (just the two on my watchlist) where the date is ambiguous without it. I may introduce a parenthesis at WP:ERA to try to clarify this, and I hope you'll consider this special circumstance (first few centuries of this era especially) where ambiguity does arise for our readers. Best, Wareh (talk) 15:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ambiguity may be in the eye of the beholder. It would help if WP:ERA could be more specific about what constitutes ambiguity in this case. The more specific the better. Thanks. Hmains (talk) 02:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Morelos

Thanks for the copyediting work on Morelos. I love adding information but Im weak on going back to articles Ive (re)written for the little stuff.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:16, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! lots of work on Mexico articles! Thanks!Thelmadatter (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am afraid that this is just random as I work thorugh various lists (and that AWB is doing most of the work). But thanks anyway. Hmains (talk) 22:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of U.S. locations with large ethnic populations

Hi. Just to let you know that I've listed a category you created, Category:Lists of U.S. locations with large ethnic populations, for renaming. Please see here if you would like to contribute to the discussion. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:New Right Organizations (United States)

Category:New Right Organizations (United States), which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC) [reply]

AWB edit on History of Norfolk

Hi

I noticed that you may need to update your editing params. The AWB edit changed 3,000 to 3000 but left 9,000 unchanged

Chaosdruid (talk) 11:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know I have reverted it to 3,000 in keeping with the other dates until MOSNUM discussion is over
It would be pretty unusual to not use the comma in those date ranges such as X.XXX,XXX - X,XXX,XXX OR XXX,XXX - XXX,XXX. Chaosdruid (talk) 12:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • AWB work is partial automated and partially manual and I am sure to miss things, even as a wholly manual edit would. Nevertheless, I am unaware of any discussion to change the rule that nnnn years will never have commas, while nn,nnn or larger years will always have commas (both of which I am trying to implement). Where is such discussion? Thanks Hmains (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of largest empires

Hi there. We're having a content dispute at the article above - the list of empires has a large 216 entries, and currently the article sees fit to repeat this list 6 times! Clearly a waste of storage and bandwidth. A better solution (saving at least 30% and making it much easier to read and use) would be a table with a column for each attribute, sortable, as used in many other articles (see the discussion). However, a silent editor keeps reverting attempts to clean up the article, without explanation. Please see the discussion (currently nobody disagrees). Your comments would be welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.18.207 (talk) 21:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notation

Hello. Please do not change notations from BC/AD to BCE/CE. It is not part of any copy-editing and viewed by many as a strongly contentious move. The choice of the author should be respected. Thanks. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 21:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. The MOS states that the notation shoulde be consistent within an article. I believe I am making them consistent and not changing articles that are already consistent. Thanks Hmains (talk) 21:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nowhere does MOS give you a mandate to change the notation and you are the first who does it that way on basis of MoS. I created Diolkos and the notation was consistent BC/AD throughout the article, still you changed it wholesale. Apart from that, you consistently change only to BCE/CE, so only the bias may be consistent. Wikipedia:User preferences for BCE/CE notation still accurately portraits the situation: the author decides the notation, not the copy-editor. This is only natural, since the author creates the contents, not the copy-editor. Thus, I had to undo your changes. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:08, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:User preferences for BCE/CE notation states it is for historical purposes only and does not reflect current WP consensus. Thus, it cannot be held as a standard to do or not do anything. See WP:ERA#Year numbering systems for the current consensus guidance (which I had no part in writing). However, I do not now see that any CE or BCE existed in this article before I changed it; my mistake, which you corrected. Thanks Hmains (talk) 22:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, neither MOS nor elsewhere in WP is any special preference given to 'author', whoever that is. Every editor who edits an article is the 'author'. Hmains (talk) 22:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
By that logic, the one who changes your notation changes is just as much author as you which means all your edits concerning notations can be undone (and you in turn can undo them). But whatever your logic, WP:ERA#Year numbering systems is pretty clear: Do not change from one style to another unless there is substantial reason for the change, and consensus for the change with other editors. Simple copy-editing is by all accounts not a substantial reason nor do you have consensus to change the style of whole articles wholesale. I am glad we finally agree on that and I am looking forward to you refraining from now from unilateral and uncalled for changes of the notation. Again, these edits do not meet consensus, that's what I am saying all along. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Given that, in your function as copy-editor, you edit a vast array of articles in a very short span of time, I am certain you understand that I will take the matter rather swiftly to an admin if we do not come to an understanding. Note that I respect your work otherwise, it is just this one point which I hope we can settle permanently and amicably. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your comments would be more believable if you were not making changes to articles in which every notation but one is in BCE/CE and I change the last one. They would also be believable if you looked at the name of the aricle that says BCE and agreed the contents of the article should be BCE/CE instead of insisting it must contain a BC/AD notation. Seeing what you are doing looks like you are pushing an agenda. And there is nothing in the MOS that indicates I or any other editor has to look at article history of these articles or others for this or any other changes before we make edits. The article at the moment is the only thing that counts. And I am not 'changing the style' of anything here in my last edits; I am making them consistent. Please read and consider and do not let your emotions take over here; it is not worth it. Hmains (talk) 04:57, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No big deal, but your edit to Aristophanes was also definitely an example of (inadvertently, I trust) disregarding the WP:ERA guideline, "Do not change from one style to another unless there is substantial reason for the change, and consensus for the change with other editors." At Aristophanes there was no inconsistency: not a single occurrence of "BCE." In the rarer case of actual inconsistency, it would be worth checking into the history, if possible, to see how the article stood before the inconsistency was introduced. Best, Wareh (talk) 23:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw that one also. That is why I left it was it is. Thanks Hmains (talk) 04:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

False positives

Hi, I'm just pointing out that automated edits 'according to MoS' might often return some false positives. There are many reasons why article names may have what might appear to be an incorrect mix of upper and lower case. I noticed Côtes du Ventoux AOC because it's on my watchlist, but there are thousands of wine articles that may have been affected by your sweep. If you need any help locating which ones they are, please do not hesitate to ask. Cheers, --Kudpung (talk) 21:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If are talking about the default sort change, this is deliberately done by the editors who control AWB. Various people have asked them about this and they keep AWB as you see it with a justification. You may also want to write to them. Of course, the article name was not changed. Thanks Hmains (talk) 21:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I can't figure out though what that justification would be. Anyway, the AWB people refuse to make AWB available for a large number of the world's computers so I don't know much about it. I've notified the people from the Wikiproject Wine, and they can decide if anything needs doing.--Kudpung (talk) 22:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warning concerning your use of AWB

You have recently be using AWB to remove 19th and 20th Century wikilinks from hundreds of articles (see this as one example). Such wikilinks are useful and should not be removed from such articles in mass. Your use of AWB appears to be a violation of AWB Rules of Use #3 (Don't do anything controversial with it) and #4 (Avoid making insignificant or inconsequential edits). Dolovis (talk) 00:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain how implementing the Manual of Style is controversial--WP:MOS#Dates states that "Dates are not normally linked". Also, the AWB indicates that 'insignificant or inconsequential edits' are only those that do not appear to reader. Your statement appears to be a personal opinion and not WP consensus. Thanks Hmains (talk) 00:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A century is not a date. The removal of such wikilinks is controversial and not a proper use for AWB. Stop removing century wikilinks in mass. Dolovis (talk) 01:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your opinion does not make a controversy. Where is this subject being discussed in WP? And I expect you would object if I was doing the removal manually, so AWB is not relvevant here. Centuries, years, etc are all dates; they are discussed in the same sections of WP:MOS and WP:DATE. Please read. Hmains (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the rule for linking is that items get linked only they provide additional information relevant to the article. Take your article, look at the text, look at the century article; explain what relevant information is being provided from the century article for your article. Hmains (talk) 04:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b nytimes.com,February 6, 1988, "2 are Sentenced in Wedtech Case" by AP
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