**What sort of an update do you want with this sort of a story FFS. The article provides excellent background to the blurb: that should be the criterion for posting. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
**What sort of an update do you want with this sort of a story FFS. The article provides excellent background to the blurb: that should be the criterion for posting. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
:::{{ec}} There should at least be something in the body of the article (probably in the 'reception' section). The lead is supposed to be a summary. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:17, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
:::{{ec}} There should at least be something in the body of the article (probably in the 'reception' section). The lead is supposed to be a summary. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:17, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Indeed. Two sentences with a reference in the body stating what the record is, when it was broken, which game held it previously and other pertinent details would be satisfactory for me. Then I can go to bed! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 00:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
'''Support''' per DC and Physchim. [[User:Crnorizec|Crnorizec]] ([[User talk:Crnorizec|talk]]) 00:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
'''Support''' per DC and Physchim. [[User:Crnorizec|Crnorizec]] ([[User talk:Crnorizec|talk]]) 00:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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A student who guessed the answers to former Governor of AlaskaSarah Palin's security questions in 2008 is convicted of hacking and sentenced to one year in state custody. (BBC)
One day after the failure of his appeal, Twitterers combine to support Paul Chambers, a Briton convicted and fined for a threatening Twitter message. (BBC)
Irish Health Minister Mary Harney is targeted with eggs and cheese by protestors shouting "Bloody Mary" in response to her healthcare funding cuts. It follows a similar incident involving red paint last week. (The Irish Times)(RTÉ)(Irish Examiner)
Sudanese government forces clash with Arab fighters in the country's Darfur region, according to the U.N. and rebel sources; the Sudanese army denies any fighting took place (Reuters Africa)
An ongoing clean-up operation conducted by the Afghan and NATO-led forces kills four Taliban militants in Afghanistan's Logar Province, 60 km south of capital city Kabul. (People Daily)
International media are giving the impression that all of Mexico is awash with drug violence while ignoring other matters concerning the country, according to Mexico's ambassador to the United States at the American think tank Council on Foreign Relations. (BBC)
An Israeli settler attacked a Palestinian family, injuring two children and one old woman, the attack happened in the Tuqu village of Bethlehem. (Al Jazeera)
Israeli police and stone-throwing youths clashed for a third day running in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Issawiya in occupied East Jerusalem. (Al Jazeera)
Following the detonation of explosive devices near the Gaza border, Israel Air Force helicopters targeted an area near the city of Khan Yunis, causing damage to houses and injuring a number militants suspected of involvement in the attack. (Ynet)(Al Jazeera)(The Jerusalem Post)
Arts and culture
Medical records searched through by University of Manchester professor Stephen Parker suggest the playwright Bertolt Brecht may have died after contracting undiagnosed rheumatic fever as a child. (BBC)
The UK's National Union of Journalists calls off a second planned 48-hour strike at the BBC scheduled for 15 and 16 November after the Corporation agrees to hold talks aimed at resolving a dispute over pension scheme changes. (BBC)
A Panama registered cargo ship sinks off Japan's southern islands. Only 5 out a total 25 crew have been accounted for, with 1 body found. (AFP via Google)
Iceland opens an inquiry as it emerges that its citizens may be being spied on by the United States embassy. This follows similar investigations into possible illegal U.S. activities in Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland, with possibly hundreds of Norwegians being monitored and Sweden describing the matter as "very serious". (BBC)
The United Nations says there has been "no material change" for people in Gaza since Israel announced it was easing its economic blockade. An Israeli spokesman stated that the reason for the blockade was "because the territory has been overtaken by a declared terror movement."(BBC)(The Jerusalem Post)
The BBC says that without explaining why, the Sri Lankan government has banned its news crews from traveling to the north for public hearings of a commission investigating the civil war. (BBC)
Students plan a nationwide protest on 24 November against increased fees brought about by the British government. (The Guardian)
The UK Government unveils plans for the biggest shake up of the country's welfare system since the 1940s. (BBC)
"Massive Bomb" Blast in Karachi
[1]] Bomb levels the Pakistans Criminal Investigation Department base of operations in Karachi and breaks windows two Kilometers away! Information is just coming in over the wires. its asttounding 2 KMs.. We need an article as well.The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 16:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BBC News That's a big blast on a significant target (amazing there are any "wires" left to get the news out!) Let's see what sort of article can be made of it. Physchim62(talk) 16:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
cant keep Pakistan out of the news unfortunately--Wikireader41 (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Beeb are now reporting 20 deaths, including 5 police officers, though they're also saying the blast was felt 2 miles, not 2km away. That was just before 9pm UTC. It'll probably be morning before we get much more detail. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support when started article.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support once a more stable death toll and number of injured people are confirmed, and when the article is expanded (naturally). EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 18:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Death toll isn't the sole criterion on which we decide items for ITN. In this case, this could turn out to be ITN-worthy (we don't really have enough information to decide yet) because there is something unusual about it (the demolition of the HQ of a notable law enforcement agency) other than just the death toll. Like I say, we need to wait for the dust to settle (literally and metaphorically). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. When it happens, we'll post the winner. But certainly not the draw, which after all just determines which teams will play each other. Modest Geniustalk 00:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. I can't even imagine this would get much support to post to final. Grsz11 00:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The game has recently been released and has set quite a impressive 24 hours sales and reception. --Kslotte (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Impressive means what? Anymore details? Grsz11 21:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"sold an excess of 5.6 million copies in 24 hours in the UK and the US combined" --Kslotte (talk) 21:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How does that compare to previous video games? This would have to break some records to be considered I think. Grsz11 21:23, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. We don't often run gaming stories, which is a good reason to run one when a good story comes along. 5.6M copies in 24 hours is pretty impressive, and is significantly higher than the previous record (4.7M). The article looks in good shape as well. Physchim62(talk) 21:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support those are some impressive sales totals. DCT•C 22:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per DC and Physchim62. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What's the record that's been broken? Another support or 2 and I'm willing to post (assuming, of course, that the article has been adequately updated). Blurb suggestions are welcome. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per DC and Physchim. Call of Duty: Black Ops sells 5.6 million copies in its first 24 hours, the most of any video game in that time. It's kinda rough though, not sure how to word it better. Grsz11 22:37, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It worked until we got to "in that time"! Any more suggestions while I check the article out? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
'surpassing the record held by <whatever it was>'? And probably 'within 24 hours of going on sale' rather than 'its first 24 hours', which means the first 24 hours of gameplay... Modest Geniustalk 22:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Normally, sales for the United States include those in Canada if I am not mistaken. I think naming countries at the end of the blurb is useless; as far as I have read this is the largest opening-day of a game anywhere in the world, period, so why not just say so? --PlasmaTwa2 23:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's not much of an update, just one sentence appended on to the lead. At the very least, we'd need a few sentences somewhere n the body. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What sort of an update do you want with this sort of a story FFS. The article provides excellent background to the blurb: that should be the criterion for posting. Physchim62(talk) 00:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) There should at least be something in the body of the article (probably in the 'reception' section). The lead is supposed to be a summary. Modest Geniustalk 00:17, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Two sentences with a reference in the body stating what the record is, when it was broken, which game held it previously and other pertinent details would be satisfactory for me. Then I can go to bed! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per DC and Physchim. Crnorizec (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Latin Grammy Awards is currently showing right now. I saw how the Grammy Awards of 2010 was posted here, so I thought it would be appropriate to do the same here. If you need another news source, here's another I've got. Magiciandude (talk) 23:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
American Gabe Watson leaves detention in Australia after serving time for the death of Tina Watson after she drowned in 2007 after he failed to rescue her. He will be extradited to Alabama to face murder charges upon suspicion of murder. (News.Com.Au)
- Major demonstration in central London, with most reports indicating that 50,000 people took to the streets in protest. The headquarters of the ruling political party has been attacked and occupied by protestors. Pretty big news in the United Kingdom and Europe. Occurred in the centre of a major world city.(Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Weak oppose. Not a large protest by global standards; even in Europe cf. the recent protests in France, Greece etc. Modest Geniustalk 20:32, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Additional: the protests did not 'descend into a riot' as some have said below. One building had it's windows smashed and lobby vandalised. That's not a riot. Modest Geniustalk 03:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support interesting story, has been getting some int'l attention. And it's been a pretty slow month. DCT•C 20:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 50k is pretty small really. 4x smaller than the Rally to restore sanity and/or fear in the US which wasn't posted (and yes the UK has a smaller population than the US, but the US is much more spread out). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Did the rally descend into a riot? Because that's really why this particular demonstration in London has been put foward. I'd say numbers doesn't really matter, provided something unusual happened. --86.23.33.79 (talk) 21:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reading the news reports now. Though Riot police our out the most dangerous things I am reading is the Peaceful sit in, some fruit being thrown and maybe a beer bottle. My Campus calls that a damn good party not a quite a riot The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose The only reason I am not outright opposing is due to its interest to substantial Portion of English readers. That being said to put it in perspective its still half the size of the Restoring Honor Rally (even by the most skeptical estimates) and a fraction of the Size of recent french Riots or Rally to Restore Sanity. It appears the only novel thing in this case is the occupation of ruling party's building. I am not sure if thats an "official building" or an office building. So no I dont think we should post it. As always I am open to being persuaded. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, its the building that their headquarters are found within. Whether the protestors actually broke into the HQ or not still doesn't seem clear. They certainly amde it into both the reception and the roof.(Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Thank you for that clarification. Since it's not a Government building combined with the article being a wreck. I am staying with Weak oppose unless something really dramatic happens The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Todays biggest news story. Good article, expande I guess.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per modest genius. 50k is rather small for a mostly non-violent protest (I mean, no deaths). SpencerT♦C 22:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support not the largest of protests by volumes, but infiltrating the Tory HQ is quite a notable aspect of it, although this is a very domestic affair. It's quite rare to get deaths from protests in democracies such as the UK anyway. The article is looking good, too. JollyΩJanner 23:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. Hold on, 50k demonstrators? About a subject (the details of funding of university courses) which isn't much interest outside England & Wales (not even the entire UK)? Add a bit of violence against the building holding the source of their frustrations and were supposed to post this? SeePoll Tax Riots for notable demonstrations in London. Physchim62(talk) 23:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, fairly major event. I think that 50k is lots for a protest. meshach (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support since the political HQ was occupied in this case. The rest sounds veryveryfamiliar and very last Wednesday... right down to the "largest student protest in a generation" line which is in the article... and when taking the populations of the two countries into account this protest does seem rather small. --candle•wicke 02:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If this is to be posted, which currently looks unlikely, the I'd suggest replacing "British students" with just "protesters". Certainly not all of them were students (there were university lecturers on the march and other people who joined just to cause trouble or for the thrill) and "British" would imply it affects the whole of the UK, but the issue is just about tuition fees in England and Wales. Sometimes, I almost wish I were Scottish. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. As strongly as I feel on the subject (strongly enough that I would have been there if I could have afforded to get to London), this isn't big enough for ITN. It's just one demonstration in one city and there was a bit of trouble at the building where the ruling party is based. The French riots (in typical French style!) were much bigger and were spread across various cities. Even the G20 protests 18 months aren't really comparable despite the similarity in numbers. The repercussions of that protest are still being felt today. Indeed, they were evidenced by the way the police handled this event. It's unlikely (though not impossible) that this protest will have such repercussions. Sadly, the windows will be repaired, the protesters will go home, this'll drop out of the headlines in a day or two and student debt will skyrocket. :( HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose not notable. Protests by interest groups like this happen all the time, with thousands of people, eg public servants, schoolteachers, etc. Even with violence, students inciting scuffles is nothing new. My local senator :( did it when they were at uni. I think it was in April 2002 when the IP conflict was peaking, about 10,000 Hamas supporters tried to demonstrate and break into the Israeli consulate in Sydney. It's nothing special. Rallies with tens of thousands of people waving Tamil Tiger or Hezbollah flags in the western world are not uncommon YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 03:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose yet another protest in a Europe that is going bankrupt. What is the news here. another place similar protest.--Wikireader41 (talk) 09:42, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose my understanding of ITN is that it is supposed to allow readers to read an article related to the news, not simply report the news. If there was an article detailing the proposed cuts in education, then it might be suitable to include that in ITN, but at the moment this shouldn't be included. SmartSE (talk) 18:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Causes a total of 117 fatalities in India, Thailand and Malaysia. - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 14:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support and Speedy post High death toll, international effects, Article in excellent condition. Its ITN material the Time is red lets post The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 14:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Willing to post when the working tag goes down (wouldn't want to disturb anything). Also, please provide a good blurb. --Tone 14:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)Its been removed - but after last weeks furore, i would wait until a few more people have commented on it. As for a blurb how about Cyclone Jal kills at least 117 people as it affects the Malay Peninsular, Sri Lanka and India.Jason Rees (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Last week was hardly a "furore" by the standards we can get down to! Support as a significant number of casualties over a wide geographic area. Physchim62(talk) 15:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. We've seen much greater controversies over much more trivial things. Posted because [insert RA's rationale here] and we're 40 hours without an update. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I would have suggested waiting for a bit more mainstream news coverage but it's posted now, and i won't suggest taking it down.--Johnsemlak (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think part of the beauty of ITN is our ability to provide information on events that aren't getting much coverage from the big Western news organisations. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I was thinking of that.--Johnsemlak (talk) 17:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's impossible to prove a causal link, and it doesn't work every time (obviously!) but let's just see if this story doesn't get a bit more coverage in the "mainstream media" now that it's on ITN... If it does, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen the phenomenon! Physchim62(talk) 19:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bubbles of energy that contain close to the same amount of energy as 100 000 supernova explosions have been found in the centre of the Milky Way galaxy. It is on the front page of the NYTimes and it definitely looks to be a huge news story. Vancyon 00:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Note: I would not use the term bubble, but I don't know what else to call it, just forwarding it to you guys. Vancyon 00:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Neutral If some one can explain its significance to me i'll support. Cause like most Astrophysicist stuff I have no clue what it means... The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 01:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if we ever figure out a way to travel at the speed of light, we could send a ship there, and then just 60,000 years later they could be back here with some sweet, sweet energy. KafzielComplaint Department: Please take a number 01:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I, well, wow. I really don't know what to make of this (and I'm a professional astronomer). I'll have a detailed read of the paper tomorrow and try to work it out. However, if it IS true, it's almost certainly a relic from previous feeding by of the supermassive black hole. We'll also need to work out where on Earth to put the update. Modest Geniustalk 01:38, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that was my thought as well, but thats nearly as bad as the dilemma of writing a short blurb for it. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 03:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In Dublin, dozens of complaints are made about the "heavy-handed" tactics of "excessive force" deployed by gardaí following last week's nationwide student demonstration against a government-proposed fee increase, the largest such demonstration in a generation. (The Irish Times)(RTÉ)
Secret documents are released showing churches and civilians upon the enemies list of Indonesian special forces Kopassus. The U.S. government had just removed a twelve-year funding ban on the group this summer.(Democracy Now!)
Law and crime
In the first public sign that the sentence of death by stoning passed on Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani is causing divisions within the regime, Alef, a conservative newspaper in Iran, challenges the handling of the case. (The Australian)
A man surrendered to police and confessed to killing five and wounding one in two separate attacks in South China's Hainan province. (China Daily)
A second Russian journalist is attacked in Moscow. Motivation is unclear but both had written about trees being felled to make way for motorways. (Al Jazeera)
The LHC has switched to smashing lead ions (from protons) [3][4]. This should generate much higher energies [5]. The press seems to be full of "mini-big Bang" articles: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12]. Nergaal (talk) 09:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was considering nominating this but then decided not to. Smashing heavy nuclei is not something new and while this is the first time they did this at CERN, it is just a step towards real goals they want to achieve. So, I'd support posting some significant discoveries we expect within months but not at this stage. --Tone 11:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose (as a trained physicist myself). Heavy ion colliding is nothing new or exciting. Although this is the first time the LHC has done it, that's really only of interest to particle physicists. CERN have done a good PR job, and the media have taken things way too far. This is nothing like a 'mini Big Bang', whatever one of those is supposed to be, and I sincerely hope CERN didn't use the term themselves. Just because the media don't understand science doesn't make it news. Modest Geniustalk 12:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I was also pretty underwhelmed by the announcement, glad to see I was missing something. Physchim62(talk) 12:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unless it causes a black hole. </physicist trolling> --Stephen 12:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OMG. Must Post NOW!!!! Stephen 00:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Maybe, if it DOES cause a black hole, and if this black hole eats up the entire Earth, then no-one will be able to update the ITN!? So why not publish this one, before it's too late? Crnorizec (talk) 20:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't want to cause too much panic ;-) Though we posted the Solar flare that was to hit the Earth back in August... --Tone 21:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Qantas Flight 32: Qantas announces that it has found "slight anomalies" in the engines of its Airbus 380 aircraft and is keeping it grounded for the time being. (BBC)
Express delivery company DHL promises better screening of customers and parcels before they are sent to airports after recent parcel bombs sent from Yemen and Greece. (Reuters)
A government conservation campaign, and possible hoarding by state oil companies, causes a severe shortage on diesel fuel in the People's Republic of China, disrupting industry and commerce. (CNBC)[permanent dead link]
The United States offers to drop Sudan from its list of "state sponsors of terrorism", ending its isolation, if two scheduled referendums take place with respected results. (Al Jazeera)
Law and crime
Libyan authorities arrest 10 reporters apparently for criticizing Libya's leadership. (The Jerusalem Post)
Human rights organizations say the Palestinian Authority is depriving Palestinians in Gaza affiliated with Hamas of passports; Hamas has retaliated by depriving Gazans belonging to Fatah of their passports. (The Jerusalem Post)
Two people are killed and several injured after a protest camp in Western Sahara is broken up by Morocco, hours before talks on the disputed territory begin. (BBC)(Taiwan News)
Wiki does not seem to hold him to be of great importance: he is not mentioned by name in National Reorganization Process or History of Argentina: three mentions in Dirty War, two of which are in relation to an attempted assassination rather than anything that he did; one screen article. Kevin McE (talk) 07:16, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I made some casual fixes, but the article is barely beyond the stub level and would hardly get anywhere to be in good shape before the news of his death simply die out. Besides, he's notable but his death isn't, there hasn't been a single reaction to it beyond the newspaper mentions and a pair of low-profile politician comments (just compare it with all the things generated by the deaths of Kirchner or Alfonsín). And I'm not sure if, outside of Argentina, someone has even noticed this or knew who was Massera without checking the wikipedia article MBelgrano (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It got reported here in Spain [14], but less so than the disturbances in Western Sahara (just to give a benchmark – if you didn't know there were disturbance in Western Sahara, you get some idea of how the Spanish press viewed Massera's death!) Physchim62(talk) 20:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, even in Argentina itself, the press gave more room to the resignation of Ángel Cappa as coach of the River Plate soccer team MBelgrano (talk) 02:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
United States backs India's bid for UNSC permanent seat
Oppose unless something actually happens. Obama simply saying he supports it doesn't actually make it happen. Modest Geniustalk 18:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On second thoughts, you are right. I withdraw the nomination. Anyways, the point was the implication of such a gesture by the U.S. President on bilateral relations involving U.S., China, India and Pakistan. But, I understand that are no immediate implications of this development. --King Zebu (talk) 19:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't we just have a UNSC election a few weeks ago? Wouldn't that make the next one in two years? EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 20:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nope: half the non-permanant seats are up every year, tenure is two years. Kevin McE (talk) 22:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the chances of getting the other members to all agree on any candidates is pretty low. The US knows someone else will veto the change. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know the nomination's been withdrawn, so I won't formally oppose, but I will say that this is generating a lot of light but next to no heat. Much as the press might jump up and down, there's nothing particularly significant here and there won't be until the ball starts rolling towards UNSC membership and, even then, I don't think we should post anything until (if) it happens. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But, an actual expansion of the P5 would be a no brainer to post if and when it happens. Courcelles 09:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. But it doesn't look like it's happening soon. Modest Geniustalk 12:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have been telling Japan the same thing for years. The only way is to expand the council to permanently include Brazil, Germany, Japan and India. We'll wait... We'll watch... We'll see The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 22:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And what about Indonesia and South Africa? Its impossible. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Russia village attack
12 killed after a attack in Krasnodar, Russia - [15] - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 14:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thus far does not appear to be an international incident, just a harsh episode of crime. No article even proposed, let alone exists. 20 people were killed this weekend in Ciudad Juarez, but no one would think to nominate that. Strong oppose. --Golbez (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
oppose nasty? yes... Sad? yes..... ITN worthy? No. Run of the mill crime. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 23:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The loss of life is tragic, but the incident will not have any continued coverage in the media and so is not notable, much less ITN-worthy, so it's probably just as well we don't have an article. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's a sad story, but it's not ITN-worthy, per comments above. Diego Grez (talk) 01:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose This sounds like a notable award, my only nit pick is we have no article for the work. That would strike me as a key Wikilink for ITN. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 14:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
English sources are slim to none, french sources are pretty easy to find. Which means My attempt to create an article for it is not going to work becuase I cant read french. If some one here can read french we could throw an article together pretty easily The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 14:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Update I started something... so now we have an entry Hektor (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Full support Notable award. Notable book, Notable Author. havent Check ITN/R but it ought to be on there The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't put it on ITN/R, no, but this year's Goncourt seems like a good ITN story. Next year we might have a better story from some other language, or we might have another good Goncourt story: let's wait and see! Physchim62(talk) 15:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The Prix Goncourt is "France's top literary award" (according to the BBC) and Houellebecq is a well-known and controversial author. The story also has a little bit of WP interest, as Houellebecq was accused of plagiarizing French Wikipedia (and other sites) for some of the passages (Irish Times)! Physchim62(talk) 15:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could someone add a a few sentences on the award and maybe a little reaction, then I'm willing to post. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted --Stephen 23:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Latest in HIV treatment
Clue to how some 'control' their HIV without medication. BBCCrnorizec (talk) 13:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I like this, but its does not strike me as really ITN worthy. Its a possible road to a cure but I see nothing in the article to indicate its any sort of big break through. I am open to being pursaded but right now I dont see the importance The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 14:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose you left the word "may" out of your nomination. That's really the deal breaker. DCT•C 18:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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