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:*for 2 February, day of the cantata's first performance --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
:*for 2 February, day of the cantata's first performance --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:*reviewed: [[#Primitive Hall]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
:*reviewed: [[#Primitive Hall]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Reworded hook slightly (Simeon, not the canticle, is pictured). [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 12:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Articles created/expanded on January 2
Jo Tong Sop
... that Jo Tong Sop is the current head coach of the North Korea national football team?
Created by Spongie555 (talk). Self nom at , 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Drove Cottage Henge which is the nomination under mine. Spongie555 (talk) 05:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure the hook is catchy enough, but I can't come up with anything better myself. Perhaps something about the alleged public shaming might work? Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 14:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- DYK Koji Gyotoku has the same hook but different team and it was accepted. Spongie555 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- This article includes a lot of padding to get it to 1500 characters, so maybe try to find some more information about this person. And Rwxrwxrwx is right that the hook isn't very impressive. Just because a subpar hook was accepted in the past doesn't mean it always has to be. - PM800 (talk) 14:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Due to North Korea's secretive nature there is limited sources on him and most is about him coaching and nothing about his personal life. Also yes the hook isn't impressive but I can't think of another so I'm open to any other hooks. Spongie555 (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Why not omit the N. Korea reference and do something like:
ALT 1... that Jo Tong Sop was shamed in a six-hour public inquisition when his football team failed to win the World Cup?
—SMALLJIM 00:12, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I like that alt better if anyone wants to review the nomination again now. Spongie555 (talk) 03:02, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- There's a problem in that the article contradicts itself on that point: He was also part of North Korea's football team, on return home from the FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa when they were shamed in a six-hour public inquisition in Kim Il-Sung Square after the team's coach, Kim Jong-Hun, had been accused of "betraying" the nation's leader's heir apparent, Kim Jong Un, following their failure at the World Cup, according to reports. Later it was proven false that they were shamed and the team was busy practicing for the Asian Games. (Emphasis added.) It should be noted that the source for the second sentence doesn't rule out the possibility that Jo Tong Sop and the team were indeed subjected to a six-hour public shaming, but afterwards then allowed to return to their normal football schedule. Either way, this article should avoid having a self-contradiction on this point. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reworded it alittle. You can continue the review. Spongie555 (talk) 05:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- There's less than 1500 characters of prose there. My count gives 1384 characters. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 11:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- I fixed it. Spongie555 (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry Spongie, you need to make a bit more effort here. You keep asking us to do reviews when there are clearly some significant issues outstanding each time. This time, we still don't have a reasonable hook to consider. Can you give us the text of the hook you are proposing, and clear up any other issues so the reviewers don't have to do the work of the nominator. Thanks. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 12:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Here is the alt:
- I fixed it. Spongie555 (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Why not omit the N. Korea reference and do something like:
- DYK Koji Gyotoku has the same hook but different team and it was accepted. Spongie555 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
... that Jo Tong Sop was shamed in a six-hour public inquisition when his football team failed to win the World Cup?Spongie555 (talk) 03:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- The article says that, "Later it was proven that the team was not shamed but busy practicing for the Asian Games." - PM800 (talk) 03:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- OK, how about this:
ALT 2: ... that it was widely but wrongly reported that Jo Tong Sop was subjected to a 6-hour public shaming when his North Korean football team failed to do well in the 2010 World Cup?- The DYK criteria seem to be met:
- New: yes
- Length: ~1700 characters, substantial
- Hook: interesting, mentioned and cited
- Neutral/policy: well-sourced
- Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Did you know#Content, "Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided."
I would like a second opinion about whether this violates Wikipedia:Did you know#Content before the submission is declined.
The original hook, though bland, is more suitable for the main page than this one. Perhaps that one could be verified? Cunard (talk) 09:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Did you know#Content, "Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided."
- (outdent) Per Spongie555's request on my talk page, I have restored this entry. Cunard (talk) 02:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The proposed hook is:
- ALT 3... that Jo Tong Sop was a member of the North Korean team that that won the 1986 King's Cup against Aarhus Gymnastikforening? Cunard (talk) 02:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is much better but for most of us its not clear what Aarhus Gymnastikforening is. I propose a small tweak.... *
... that Jo Tong Sop was a member of the North Korean team that that won the 1986 King's Cup against Denmark's oldest sports club?Thelmadatter (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is much better but for most of us its not clear what Aarhus Gymnastikforening is. I propose a small tweak.... *
- That one is better to use. If anyone wants to review the nomination. Spongie555 (talk) 04:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 3
Jenny Lind Tower
- ... that although it is thought that the Jenny Lind Tower was moved to its present location by an admirer of the late singer, the mover was born seventeen years after she toured the United States?
- Comment: I reviewed the article Patience and Sarah (opera) below.
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- The length and references check out (I'm assuming they stand up to whatever notability criteria we have for places/buildings, which I'm not familiar with - there's also Google Books), but the hook is a bit convoluted. It could, instead, be about the performance...? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, go ahead and fix it if you want. Kevin Rutherford (talk)
- Something like "... that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed the Jenny Lind Tower in North Truro, Massachusetts and prevented a riot by singing to the public below?" Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Go for it! I wasn't sure if that would work but it sounds better than the original. Thanks for your help. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- I can't find the word riot or something close to it in the refs ... maybe I missed it. All I read about was her singing to people who failed to get tickets. Victuallers (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, there is no word "riot" in the references. The best hook would probably read, " that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed a tower later named after her and sung to the crowd below when they were unable to attend her concert?" Besides, the second hook makes it seem as though the tower was located in North Truro when she climbed it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Close paraphrasing.
- Article: "Edward Snow embellished the myth by saying, "There are those who like to believe", that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."
- Source: "Edward Rowe Snow embellished the myth. “There are those who like to believe,” [he said,] that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro."
Article: "Snow went on to undercut his speculations though by stating that Aldrich's son, Samuel N. Aldrich, later told him that Lind's performance in no way motivated the elder Aldrich to move the tower to his land." - Source: "Snow undercut his speculations, however, by stating that Aldrich’s son, Samuel Nelson Aldrich, told him that Jenny Lind’s performance in no way motivated his father to move the tower."
- Unreliable source. The article has two sources. One is reliable; the other is not. Cunard (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- All the issues are addressed. It is ready to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.capecodtravel.com/towns/truro/jlind0998.shtml is not a reliable source. See the "About Us" page: "Founded in 1996, eCape, Inc. wants all Cape Cod businesses to profit by using the power of the Internet. We build business websites and sell advertising on our portal websites". I still see close paraphrasing issues. For example, "Her fans crashed the gates, and she had to cut short her performance" is copied verbatim from the source. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- If it matters so much, could you please fix it instead of spending the time just mentioning it? I'm correcting the issues addressed above but please don't give vague responses as it doesn't help anyone since the writer will always have a bias and is more likely to skip over a mistake than a reviewer. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Copyright violations (the verbatim text) and the close paraphrasing of the sources certainly matter. They effect the integrity of Wikipedia. When I review articles at DYK, I fix any minor issues. When there are major issues such as copyright violations and close paraphrasing, the creator should fix them himself. Your edit here merely rearranged the positioning of the text and did not address the close paraphrasing issues. Please read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and reread the article to address any remaining close paraphrasing in the article, such as the following:
Article: "one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."
Source: "one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro." Cunard (talk) 09:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Copyright violations (the verbatim text) and the close paraphrasing of the sources certainly matter. They effect the integrity of Wikipedia. When I review articles at DYK, I fix any minor issues. When there are major issues such as copyright violations and close paraphrasing, the creator should fix them himself. Your edit here merely rearranged the positioning of the text and did not address the close paraphrasing issues. Please read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and reread the article to address any remaining close paraphrasing in the article, such as the following:
- If it matters so much, could you please fix it instead of spending the time just mentioning it? I'm correcting the issues addressed above but please don't give vague responses as it doesn't help anyone since the writer will always have a bias and is more likely to skip over a mistake than a reviewer. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.capecodtravel.com/towns/truro/jlind0998.shtml is not a reliable source. See the "About Us" page: "Founded in 1996, eCape, Inc. wants all Cape Cod businesses to profit by using the power of the Internet. We build business websites and sell advertising on our portal websites". I still see close paraphrasing issues. For example, "Her fans crashed the gates, and she had to cut short her performance" is copied verbatim from the source. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- All the issues are addressed. It is ready to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, there is no word "riot" in the references. The best hook would probably read, " that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed a tower later named after her and sung to the crowd below when they were unable to attend her concert?" Besides, the second hook makes it seem as though the tower was located in North Truro when she climbed it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- More than three weeks after nomination and copyright issues still persist? And the author is unwilling or unable to address them? It's time to tag that article and move on. - Dravecky (talk) 19:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am, I just have classes every day. That being said, I will go over it now and address the issues, but correct me if I miss one as that might be possible. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I corrected the issues that I noticed. Again, if anything sticks out, please post it here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the opening paragraph of the article has no cites on it. And the cites that do exist aren't specific enough -- what's Vuilleumier and Vuilleumier 1980 p. 49? Is it the title of a book? The publisher? Someone glancing at it wouldn't know what it was, and I feel the few cites you do have aren't the greatest. Why not just do a Google search on Jenny Lind Tower and try and find some better web cites? If you can find verifiable ones, they work well because they're easy to go check. However, cites 2 and 3 are fairly good, esp. the Boston Globe one. However, if these issues aren't fixed, I'm more inclined to agree with Dravecky. AC (talk) 03:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't typically ever cite the opening paragraph but I can do that. The Vuilleumier one is apparently this. It's actually two different people with the same last name. I also don't know how to specify it in something like that so someone with better skills might want to check that one out. I have done multiple Google searches and I have come up with "unreliable" results in most of them. Unfortunately, there are almost no reliable site searches. I was talking to a friend about this and they did the book searching for me. It was really useful and I am thankful that they did that. Otherwise, I have addressed the issues above. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 06:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the opening paragraph of the article has no cites on it. And the cites that do exist aren't specific enough -- what's Vuilleumier and Vuilleumier 1980 p. 49? Is it the title of a book? The publisher? Someone glancing at it wouldn't know what it was, and I feel the few cites you do have aren't the greatest. Why not just do a Google search on Jenny Lind Tower and try and find some better web cites? If you can find verifiable ones, they work well because they're easy to go check. However, cites 2 and 3 are fairly good, esp. the Boston Globe one. However, if these issues aren't fixed, I'm more inclined to agree with Dravecky. AC (talk) 03:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 11
Hallsteinn Sigurðsson
- ... that some twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures are exhibited in the Gufunes sculpture park in north-east Reykjavík?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Bohemic acid below.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- I replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- I can confirm that the article was an unreferenced BLP with essentially bugger all text as of 7 January 2011; that Dr Blofeld has expanded it on 11 January 2011 to (by my reckoning) 1815 characters, excluding the headings, lists, references, etc; that the hook is properly sourced (the second time it is mentioned in the article, no need for a reference in the lead), and that the source checks out. Moreover the prose is good and the subject is interesting. Some phrases do closely reflect the reference [1], for which an unrelated earlier version of the article was blanked due to copyright concerns; but (with the possible exception of the phrase "progressively lighter and more transparent" which should probably be either attributed as a direct quote or else appropriately paraphrased), the similar material appears to be essentially functional and factual, rather than expressive; and therefore permissible.
- My worst concern is that the link seems a little bit 'ho-hum'. What really wowed me about this article was the art itself, in particular the image of Fönsun XVI - 2004 (right). I believe the hook would be much stronger if it read "... twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures (pictured) ..." with an image of this work -- even though, as far as I know, this particular work is not one of the twenty five in the sculpture park, nevertheless in my view it would be appropriate simply as a representative sculpture by Sigurðsson.
- One final thing that in my view would need to be clarifed is the copyright status of the pictures under Icelandic law potentially as derivative works of the sculpture, and therefore potentially touched by Sigurðsson's copyright in the sculpture, even though the photographer has granted a free licence to their copyright in the taking of the photograph. Regardless of whether or not the picture was included on the main page, this would need to be clarified, as we could not have the main page linking to a page with a potential rights problem. I hope this can be resolved, as I think the image is great, and I would very much like to see both it and the article featured in DYK. Jheald (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
In regards to this appearing as a DYK a]I've reworded any phrases which appeared too close for comfort to the source you identified. b] The image is highly unlikely going to appear on the main page anyway. given that this is hardly lead DYK material. It should be good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'll give way to more experienced hands at DYK on this; but, as I said above, if there's a potential rights issue, it's not just a question of what appears on the main page - we shouldn't link to such an article from the main page. That's why I'm hoping you can sort this out, because there is no question but that those images add immeasurably to the page, so it would be good to keep them if we possibly can. Jheald (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Dr. Blofled took care of the wording issues rather well, and I also have spent some "quality time" with this article, adding to it and doing some additional rewording. Another DYKer needs to review the article and the hook sourcing -- and please do consider using a hook about the sculptures in the hydroelectric station. --Orlady (talk) 06:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 13
Petatlán
- ... that Petatlán is home to a ecological movement led by local peasant farmers?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Reims GospelThelmadatter (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Its not particularly interesting or unusual. Can you think of an alt hook?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- You sure about that? When I think of an movement or organization related to ecology, I think Greenpeace, not rural Mexican farmers.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the mountains of Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico are home to a local environmental group, some members of which have been imprisoned and defended by groups such as Amnesty International?Thelmadatter (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- A better hook may be:
- ALT2 ... that when Boise Cascade Corp. overcut lumber in Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico, ecological protesters were imprisoned in an action decried by Amnesty International and Greenpeace?Georgejdorner (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm going to respectfully disagree with all y'all. I think the first hook is fine, if a geographical designation is added ("Petatlan, Mexico"). Actually, I think it's pretty cool. But I am not qualified to verify the sources--a Spanish speaker should do that, and the references for the hook are off-line. The article needs cleaning up (there's a rogue 'inegi' in there, which must have meant something), and so do the references: those translations need to be incorporated properly or be left out. Sorry, I wish I could do more to help the article or its nomination. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 17
Quantum dot solar cell
- ... that quantum dot solar cells (example shown) aim to greatly improve solar cell performance by carefully tuning their sensitivity even into the infrared?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusing History on this one, it looks like an old article but is actually spawned from another topic that I'll be re-creating. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Weston-super
- - Article checks out, sizing checks out, sourcing is of a high quality, and on an important educational topic of encyclopedic value. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 22:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hold on. No OTRS for the image yet. Sourcing is actually not brilliant because this is an active research area, where picking up primary sources is risky - reviews and books would be better. The hook and some parts of the article elaborating it make no sense to me. "any energy above and beyond the bandgap energy is lost" is only half correct. Bulk solar cells materials sensitive to infrared are no news, and quantum dots don't help here. You possible want to say that QDs allow to tune the bandgap in a wide range for one and the same material, but this is not elaborated anywhere. The article gives no any spectral numbers or explains why, say PbS QDs are better than bulk PbS. In summary - great yet unfinished effort, with much work still needed. Materialscientist (talk) 05:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
(undent) You note above that "the hook... make no sense", but none of the points on the talk page or here elaborate on that point. Can you be specific about what you think it not kosher in the hook so we can fix it? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Can't "greatly" improve efficiency which is already some 42% (there is a limit); "carefully" is weasel, for "tuning into the infrared" see below. This is all quickfixable; the problem is the article needs rewriting before it can be DYK featured. Materialscientist (talk) 12:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook doesn't talk about any of the things you mention -- "bandgap", "bulk material", etc. Is there something you feel needs to be changed for the DKY? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- See talk page of the article. All mechanisms of the article are about taking low-gap material and make it efficiently absorb high energies, thus tuning into the visible, not vice versa (can't tune QD bandgap toward lower energies). Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook doesn't talk about any of the things you mention -- "bandgap", "bulk material", etc. Is there something you feel needs to be changed for the DKY? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
OK hows this...
- ... that quantum dot solar cells (example shown) aim to produce efficient solar cells by carefully tuning their sensitivity even in the infrared?
- Very same problems as with the original hook (haven't checked the last article updates yet). Materialscientist (talk) 13:25, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I based the new hook on the statement above, where you expressed concern about "tuning into the infrared" and "greatly improve". I removed all of these statements. I see I forgot "careful" and I would be happy to drop that if you consider it bad. But is there anything else? This game of 20 questions is growing lengthy. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't mean to quibble (limited connectivity - traveling) or spam this thread (thus posting comments at the article talk). The article is yet inadequate in describing physics of solar cells and current research, and referencing is short of DYK standards. The hook can be rewritten after the article is fixed. Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Pacific Center for Human Growth
- ... that the Pacific Center for Human Growth (pictured) in Berkeley, California is a LGBT community center that was started in 1973 as a response to a "brutal gaybashing in Oakland"? Thisbites (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Can we include this picture too?Thisbites (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length checks out. Creation date was actually January 18, not January 17, so that's fine too, but the nomination should be moved. Article looks good but there is no reference for the bit about Will Roscoe and the United Way or the paragraph about Oakland-East Bay Gay Men's Chorus. Also the hook fact is referenced just to the organization's own website (and it would be nice to say more about the Oakland incident, like when it happened if you don't want to include the victim's name). It would be desirable to have a better reference for this fact, especially since it's the hook. Also, note 2's content seems to be exaggerated in the text. I see one anti-gay slur and one swastika mentioned there, not multiple anti-gay graffiti plus the specific word plus multiple swastikas. Perhaps there is another source you were also using? If not, the paragraph needs to match what the source says.Yngvadottir (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- What hook would you suggest instead?Thisbites (talk) 15:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook seems fine, it's the referencing needs beefing up. Can you find anything in the Bay Area newspapers substantiating the link between the Center's foundation and the crime in Oakland, and that would enable you to give a smidgen more info about the crime? Similarly can you find press sources for the 2 other pieces of info? Yngvadottir (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I note the paragraph on the vandalism has now been changed to fit the source. I went ahead and added additional sources myself. (Which is not to say there aren't more hiding in newspaper indexes.) So now it needs a 2nd reviewer because I'm too involved. But I would judge it ready. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 18
Spherical tokamak
- ... that the spherical tokamak fusion power concept was initially tested in the START reactor on a shoestring budget using bits of older experiments?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Both the hook and the article looking good. Jhenderson 777 15:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed article below.
Earnest Elmo Calkins
- ... that Earnest Elmo Calkins wrote the first advertising textbook, pioneered the use of art in ads for a corset company (pictured), the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?
- ALT1:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins pioneered the use of art in ads for a corset company (pictured), the soft sell, organized the first ad art exhibition, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?
- ALT2:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins wrote the first advertising textbook, pioneered use of a live model to create a fictional character in ads (pictured), the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?
5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 08:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- I fixed the hooks? and ... I cannot find the article? Victuallers (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Somebody typoed? It is Earnest Elmo Calkins. betsythedevine (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: His being deaf had little to do with his pioneering work, so I'd suggest leaving that part off the hook. --PFHLai (talk) 02:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Agree. ("...although blind..." would be noteworthy) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 19
Persian miniature
- ... that Persian miniatures sometimes depict the Prophet Muhammad (example right), but usually not showing his face?
5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Using a pic here may be controversial (though the Prophet is veiled) Johnbod (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210 & O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a pair a few below. Johnbod (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good work on the expansion but I had to put in a few "citation needed" tags at the end of some paragraphs. The facts being asserted really need them.Thelmadatter (talk) 22:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Good to go.. Thanks for the effort!Thelmadatter (talk) 23:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 20
Henry Mann
- ... that Henry Mann's 1949 book, Analysis and design of experiments, filled mathematical gaps in the statistical writings of Ronald A. Fisher?
Created by Giftlite (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 01:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I reviewed There Are More Things. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alternative hook suggestion:
- ALT1... that Ohio State professor Henry Mann, author of the non-parametric Mann–Whitney U statistic, won the 1946 Cole Prize for solving a famous problem in number theory? --Qwfp (talk) 10:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 11:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Updated , striking out "most" (unsourced and unsourceable), and linking nonparametric statistics. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length, and the source for the originally proposed hook, checked. However, the article is still badly sourced — every paragraph should have at least one inline citation (I don't care whether as a footnote or Harvard style) and currently most have none. In particular, the Cole Prize hook, which I prefer, is unsourced, as is the claim that the U test is what he's most known for. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- SOURCING: Each claim in the article is referenced, mainly by reference to Olson's brief biography. I used the on-line version of this at OSU, so I don't give page references (which are hardly needed imho, given the brevity of the source).
- HOOKS: Mann's book was very important in the theory of experimental design. Ronald A. Fisher is regarded as the theorist of experimental design, which in conventional unscholarly "history" rose as the "sunshine" spread on the day of the dawning appointment of Fisher at Rothamsted Experimental Station. The gap between Fisher's hortatory and Mann's mathematics makes the first hook widely interesting to statisticians and experimenters. (The cited review by Johnston is noted in Atkinson & Bailey's review of 100 years of experimental design in Biometrika, which discusses its importance for allowing the theory to advance.)
- In contrast, anybody who knows about the Cole Prize knows about Mann, I would suppose, so the marginal benefit of the second hook is negligible. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- The sourcing looks good now. I made a few minor edits to the article but I think they were small enough not to disqualify me from approving this. I do still think the alternative hook (with the edit removing the word "most") is best, because it says something surprising and interesting about him (he made important contributions in two different fields) rather than something boring (he filled some gaps in the work of some other random academic). —David Eppstein (talk) 23:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- David, when some undergraduate at the U. Chicago found an error in Newton's Principia, it was front page news in the NYT.
- Fisher is not just "some other academic", but is arguably the greatest statistician of the 20th century (and the greatest flawed human/statistician as well). Just take a look at the WP articles on Ronald A. Fisher, and on his Design of Experiments and on his Statistical Methods for Research Workers. The lead on Fisher quotes the high-priest Nelder (or was it Hald's slim book that Fisher almost single handedly created mathematical statistics, or modern statistics. Like Zeus giving birth to Minerva, Fisher is even more credited with the miraculous birth of experimental design. The Mann fact is highly interesting to statisticians! (That said, maybe the first hook can be rephrased to more more interesting.)
- Certainly, the 2nd hook is worth considering. However, statisticians typically make contributions to many fields: Mann's article mentions Hotelling and Wald, who are among the greatest mathematical economists of all time, and also Fisher, who is one of the founders of statistical genetics (with great contributions to population genetics, like something about blood types?).
- That all may be, but (unlike Newton) I think the average Wikipedia front page reader is not likely to recognize Fisher's name. And unless one does recognize it, your hook makes it sound like "some random academic fills gaps in the work of some other random academic", which doesn't distinguish the subject of the hook from any other academic anywhere in any subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- IMHO, mathematical/statistical DYK articles have had 1800 hits, apart from the linked articles on Folkman which had about 6000. Thus, the target audience is not the "average" reader, but something like 1/500(0? or 00?) readers.
- The statistical fact about Mann improving Fisher is in conflict with traditional history, which makes it interesting and would motivate statisticians to read the article. David, I'd bet that this DYK fact would be discussed in 20 coffee-rooms in statistics departments around the world, and that it will generate some discussion.
- It's healthy for some disagreement to emerge between us, at some point, I suppose. ;) Mann's test and Mann's theorem were proved by a guy named Mann; You find this surprising?!? ;) If Mann's test was proved by a woman, that would be surprising. ;)
- Wishful thinking: As an administrator, can you get WP to test the two versions for 6 hours, like they did with Jimbo's "A personal appeal from the founder of Wikipedia"?
- Cheers, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 02:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- That all may be, but (unlike Newton) I think the average Wikipedia front page reader is not likely to recognize Fisher's name. And unless one does recognize it, your hook makes it sound like "some random academic fills gaps in the work of some other random academic", which doesn't distinguish the subject of the hook from any other academic anywhere in any subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The sourcing looks good now. I made a few minor edits to the article but I think they were small enough not to disqualify me from approving this. I do still think the alternative hook (with the edit removing the word "most") is best, because it says something surprising and interesting about him (he made important contributions in two different fields) rather than something boring (he filled some gaps in the work of some other random academic). —David Eppstein (talk) 23:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- As a complete non-mathmetician, I found the first hook, er, slightly less boring. Are there not more people who have heard of Fisher than of the Cole Prize? Johnbod (talk) 16:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Both hooks seems to have been approved 5 days ago. Would somebody move their favorite (reflecting on this discussion) to the preparation area, or suggest improvements, please? Thanks! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Johann Heinrich Zedler
- ... that Johann Heinrich Zedler published Grosses Universal-Lexicon (pictured), which was the largest and most comprehensive German-language encyclopedia developed in the 18th century?
5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Günther von Reibnitz
- (scratches head) As the editor who did the expansion, I must say this is an excellent, comprehensive, well-sourced and interesting article, and should maybe be a featured article. It is in fact a translation of a featured article from the :de wikipedia. Don't think it counts as new, although I am not quite sure what the rules are. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't matter a sausage if it was translated, you've credited German wikipedia in the talk page. The article is well sourced and comprehensive so there are no problems.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Current consensus is that translations are allowed on DYK, but they need to be properly referenced and wikilinked, which often takes quite some time (many wikis are poor on sourcing even at FA level). Materialscientist (talk) 10:50, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- In this case, I don't think there is any problem. The German wiki is quite rigorous, in some ways more structured than the English one, and the sourcing looks excellent. The subject is far from controversial. I think the article is well wikilinked. I dropped a note to Meta:User:Frank Schulenburg, the main contributor, asking for a review of my crude translation, and he has offered to check it. If it goes through, I think he gets the credit. Aymatth2 (talk) 04:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Glischrochilus
- ... that picnic beetles (example pictured) are attracted to beer?
Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 01:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- The beer attraction is single-sourced to website "Dr. Bug" and though the nickname "Beer bug" is in the lead, their attraction to beer is not directly mentioned there but in a list embedded in the article. More direct phrasing related to the hook by a slight re-wording of the lead, direct explanation in the article body and preferably one other authoritative source would make this a credible DYK. I note, however, that many insects are known to be attracted to beer, so the hook might be better phrased as "... that picnic beetles are commonly known as beer bugs due to their attraction to beer?". Otherwise the DYK criteria are met. Fæ (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Crap, I should have checked the sources before... Looking at it in the cold light of day, neither refs 7 or 8 are reliable and I can't find anything better unfortunately. I'll drop the author a note to see if they can find anything more reliable, but unfortunately it looks as if this might need to be withdrawn. Thanks for the review anyway. SmartSE (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 21
Chrysoperla carnea
- ... that the larvae of the common green lacewing, Chrysoperla carnea, (pictured) consume large numbers of aphids, but when food is scarce turn cannibal and feed on each other?
- Reviewed: Colonel Joseph Barker House
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nice article. Length and date OK; hook fact referenced and verified, and quite interesting; picture is under a suitable licence on Commons. I made some minor changes to the hook (changed 'and' to 'but'). BabelStone (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to put this in a lead spot but I have some concerns about close paraphrasing in the article:
...depend on the pest population and the climatic conditions. For control of moderate aphid infestations in home gardens, five to ten lacewing eggs per plant may be sufficient.
— from the article
vs.
...depends on the pest population and climatic conditions. For control of moderate aphid infestations in home gardens, 5-10 lacewing eggs per plant or 1,000 eggs per 200 square feet are recommended.
— from the source
That's just a little too close for comfort, IMO. I'll ask the nominator to take a closer look. 28bytes (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have had a look at what you said about close paraphrasing in the article and maybe I have stuck too closely to the wording of the source. In this case it was not part of the article that much interested me but I was including the information for the sake of completeness. I must admit that I thought changing the wording around was sufficient to prevent copyright violation.
- I will try to be more careful in future. What would you like me to do about the article? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
World-system
- ... that throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed George Durning. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Somewhat weak on the sourcing (some of the text is not cited, and there are no page numbers for citation #3), but information is solid enough that I'm willing to let this go. No problem with the sources, and the date and length and hook are all good. Nyttend (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
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- The article is poorly written, and suffers from the problem of some articles on comic books and novels, it is written from the perspective of characters in the source–in this case, from the perspective of the American Sociological Association's section on world systems (if it still exists). The hook should be revived to something like
- ALT1 ... that sociologist Immanuel Wallerstein has revised his original theory of "the" "world system" and has written that some epochs have had several "world-systems"?
- This raises less of a concern about Wikipedia policy (regardingfringe theories). Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree. It is my understanding that IW is the major authority on the subject, and if he hasn't coined the term world-system, he has created the most widely discussed definition. Further, the world-system section of ASA is a major section, and its theories are hardly fringe. I also don't think your hook is neutral (epochs?). That said, I have no stake in this, and I would be fine with revising the hook to attribute the claim in a neutral fashion, so:
- ALT2 ... that according to Immanuel Wallerstein, throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?
- If you would like to expand the article, you are more then welcome to do so. I will again note that I am familiar with people disagreeing with Wallenstein's definition of the w-s, but I am not familiar with him disagreeing with any previous w-s theories. But I am more than happy to learn. PS. The article on world-system theory, which has been pretty stable for a while, fails to mention any other usages of the term world-system (mind you, I am aware that the w-s theory developed from other theories, as described in that article). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- The currently preferred wording (ALT2) seems like a true, declarative sentence. I shall look to whether it is sourced. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 21:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is sourced, at the end of the article, in a section with an un-inviting title. Please add the sourced hook to the lead.
- (What repels me about "The world-system" is the trade-marking of words, and ponderous theorizing. What can be said was said earlier and clearly by Eric Wolf (e.g. 1958 on closed corporate communities in SWJA), and what shouldn't have been said, was said later and badly by Gunder Frank and Wallerstein, imho.)
- I added a note on IW to the lead, it already mentioned the rest of the hook. AFAIK the lead does not have to contain cites, provided that per WP:LEAD it only summarizes (referenced) information in the article proper. I hope that solves this issue. Thanks for the comments, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The article is poorly written, and suffers from the problem of some articles on comic books and novels, it is written from the perspective of characters in the source–in this case, from the perspective of the American Sociological Association's section on world systems (if it still exists). The hook should be revived to something like
Articles created/expanded on January 22
The Dark Knight Rises
- ... that Christopher Nolan is directing a final installment of his Batman trilogy titled The Dark Knight Rises that will be released in 2012?
Created by Jhenderson777 (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- based on this rule: "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness." In this case, the film is still in pre-production and hasn't been cast yet. Just "planning" to direct it isn't a good hook. - PM800 (talk) 21:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Fine then. Can it wait to when it is actually being filmed. Jhenderson 777 21:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The original hook is no good due to WP:CRYSTAL, but I think it could be repaired pretty easily:
- ALT1 ... that Christopher Nolan plans to direct a final installment of his Batman trilogy titled The Dark Knight Rises for release in 2012? --Orlady (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 was actually what Jhenderson originally proposed, before changing it. Like I said, neither are really established facts. - PM800 (talk) 22:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- If the issue is that no one can verify that he actually means what he says, then change it to say something that can be verified, such as:
- ALT2 ... that Christopher Nolan has said that he plans to direct a final installment of his Batman trilogy titled The Dark Knight Rises for release in 2012? --Orlady (talk) 23:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- In two years, none of these hooks will still be true. That's what is meant by "established fact" (in the DYK rules). - PM800 (talk) 23:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I believe your interpretation of that rule is unduly narrow. If it were correct, we could never have hooks about planned movies and TV shows (yet we often do so) -- and I suppose we couldn't even have hooks that indicate that the people named are alive, since they could die in the future. What we need to avoid are hooks that are apt to be disproven or to become untrue, such as saying a movie will be released on a particular date (because it might not happen) or saying that Rahm Emanuel "is a candidate in the Chicago mayoral election" before the courts had conclusively determined whether his name would go on the ballot. In the case of The Dark Knight Rises, the ALT2 hook is in the past perfect (pluperfect) tense -- that Christopher Nolan "has said" that this is what he intends to do. If he doesn't follow through, it still will be true that he said this. --Orlady (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with what orlady says and would support ALT2. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Death and funeral of Leonid Brezhnev
- ... that because Leonid Brezhnev (pictured) had more than 200 decorations, it was decided to break the Soviet custom of featuring only one decoration on cushions during his funeral?
Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length, ref and date check out, but the section is a copyright violation, as it copies several sentences verbatim from the sourse. Arsenikk (talk) 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reworded now (reviewed Barack Obama speech at Tucson memorial). Twilightchill t 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- I still see issues with the article. I did a quick spot check, comparing the "Death and declaration" section of the article with the Time magazine article identified as a source for it. The similarity of the words in "after a faltering appearance or an unexpected absence from a meeting demanded by protocol" (in the source) to "due his faltering appearance and his absence in crucial meetings demanded by protocol" (in the article), together with similarity in overall structure, gives me concern that the Wikipedia article is not sufficiently original. Moreover, a person's physical appearance is not typically described as "faltering"; I believe the statement in the Time article was intended to indicated that he had faltered during public appearances. Also, I find it odd that the Wikipedia article uses all this to indicate that his death was widely expected, when the Time article indicates that his death had come as a surprise, since he had been maintaining a rigorous schedule and had spent 2 hours outdoors in the cold at a public appearance three days previously. Although I did not find sentences copied directly from the source, the coincidence of unusual wording like "faltering appearance" and "demanded by protocol" is troubling, particularly when it looks like the meaning of the source has been lost at the same time the words were kept. --Orlady (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Pseudobiceros bedfordi
... that the flatworm Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured), has two penises which it uses to engage in penis fencing?
Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Squab pie. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please scrutinize the sources, and note this. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Size and date checked. Most of used sources do not look like formally published works of schollars. The subject of the article is very interesting, and for us non-experts in that field can look suspicious. Is it possible to provide additional online verifyable sources that would be more formal and scholarly type?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'll do my best. There's oceans of time, so I'll post back here in a few days with the results. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Great hook! Was there any reason not to use File:Flatworm sex.png as the picture? Regarding sourcing, ref 9 confirms the hook fact and is a journal so in that respect the hook is fine. I noticed that figure 2 of that paper says that it can cause them to tear in two... should we make the hook involve this like:
ALT1 ... that when Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured) engages in penis fencing, it can lead to injuries that break them in half, but which they can survive?- (This reminds me that apophallation is waiting to be expanded...) SmartSE (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Here is link to discussion where one user says " I can't track any reference in that article to the specific information on Pseudobiceros bedfordi, and thus suspect it might be WP:OR." Although that discussion went into direction that suggest the main source is reliable, I propose to wait a couple of days to see if anyone else bring some arguments about non-reliability of the source.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- I found a better ref that specifically refers to this species: Arnqvist, Göran; Rowe, Locke (2005), Sexual conflict, Princeton University Press, ISBN13: 978-0-691-12218-2, p. 185 and added it to the lead.
- Yes, I agree that the Flatworm_sex.png image would be better. Can we swap it?
- The ALT1 hook really tells more of a story, but might be a smidgen long. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2... that the flatworm Pseudobiceros bedfordi uses its two penises to engage in penis fencing (pictured)? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Since after a couple of days nobody on this section of noticeboard disputed the source used in the article, I conclude that it is reliable. I agree with nominator and support hook ALT2.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Happy with ALT2. Happy with new image. If anyone wants to sign off on this, I'm delighted. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm also delighted with your work and choice of the picture of Smartse. Thanks to both of you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Afterthought: is the comma necessary in ALT2? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not at all.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure, but I've removed it. I've struck the hook and moved the pic to make it easier for preppers now we've made a bit of a mess! SmartSE (talk) 17:32, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I predict many front-page clicks for this image and hook-- great job! Sharktopustalk 17:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should we link penises? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, the kind of question you hear only on Wikipedia. Selfishly speaking, I recommend against it since clicking on that would strongly compete against the click-count of your DYK article. People who want to see penises can easily find them without that link.Sharktopustalk 19:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- That wasn't meant to be funny. It's a valid question. I would like to know. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
We could do, but I don't think it's necessary and the penis article doesn't yet contain anything about mollusc penises so it doesn't add anything to the hook, and I think most of our readers know what the word means anyway. SmartSE (talk) 12:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Very well. In that case, I think it's all set. Thanks for your patience. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Walter Curtis House
- ... that the Walter Curtis House has been recognized as one of the best Greek Revival farmhouses in southeastern Ohio?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed World-system. I count 2,439 characters for this article, and I just created it tonight. Nyttend (talk) 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, ref all okay. --Epipelagic (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- For the lack of any specific Greek Revival features here, see Talk:Walter Curtis House. Is "best" an appropriate neutral category?
- ALT: ... that the board and batten-sided Walter Curtis House typifies the vernacular architecture of 1820s farmhouses in Appalachian Ohio? --Wetman (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Wetman's assertion is completely without basis: no source talks about board and batten architecture (it's a brick house!), and I've presented multiple sources that speak of it as a Greek Revival structure. NPOV isn't an issue here, anyway, since the hook doesn't say that it's one of the best: it says that the house has been called one of the best. Disagree as much as you like with the professional architectural historians, but the fact remains that professionals have called it one of the best Greek Revival houses in the area. Nyttend (talk) 07:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 23
Peter M. Rhee
- ... that Peter M. Rhee (pictured) was one of the first battlefield surgeons at Camp Rhino, the first American military base to be established in Afghanistan?
5x expanded by Meiguoren (talk), KimChee (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: 03:34: Earthquake in Chile. There is an AfD on the article that needs to be resolved, but I am submitting the nomination for now before it is too late. KimChee (talk) 06:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Peter M. Rhee was one of the first American battlefield surgeons in Afghanistan?
The Control of Asbestos regulations 2006
- ... that the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006 requires that all maintenance workers at any building in the UK containing asbestos must be given special training?
Created by Notjamesbond (talk). Nominated by Racepacket (talk) at 22:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Johngarthia lagostoma ([2])
- Length, date and source verified. Only issue is the part of the hook which says "at any building in the UK containing asbestos". This is not mentioned in the article and in the Regulation itself (see Reg. 10 [3]). Maybe it could be reworded "maintenance workers and others who may come into contact with asbestos" (which is mentioned here [4]). Also, I think UK should be expanded to United Kingdom and wikilinked, as well as asbestos. ќמшמφטтгמtorque 02:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006 requires that all maintenance workers in the United Kingdom who may come into contact with asbestos must be given special training? ALT suggested by ќמшמφטтгמtorque 02:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Pacific East Mall
... that Pacific East Mall is an Asian Mall in Richmond, California's Annex?
Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- How bout,... that Pacific East Mall is an Asian Mall in Richmond, California's Annex that has had friction with the environmental group Friends of the Five Creeks over the stewardship of Cerrito Creek?
- ALT2: ... that Pacific East Mall, an Asian mall in Richmond, California, has had friction with the environmental group Friends of the Five Creeks over the stewardship of Cerrito Creek? - PM800 (talk) 04:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Which part is that?Thisbites (talk) 15:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I though that not everything needs to be cited, many DYK articles have an uncited sentence or two, especially considering that this is not a claim made in the headline. It should be accepted on good faith, I mean c'mon Asian restaurants at an Asian mall?Thisbites (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- So you don't have a source for the rest of that paragraph? There is a neutrality dispute in the article now, so I guess that will have to be resolved. - PM800 (talk) 07:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Friends of the Five Creeks was separately nominated for DYK, so this looks like an opportunity for a double hook. However, Friends of the Five Creeks is currently at AfD. --Orlady (talk) 02:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I though that not everything needs to be cited, many DYK articles have an uncited sentence or two, especially considering that this is not a claim made in the headline. It should be accepted on good faith, I mean c'mon Asian restaurants at an Asian mall?Thisbites (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Guerrero (ship), HMS Nimble (1826)
... that the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef in the Florida Keys and sank, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which also grounded on a nearby reef?
Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1:
... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 of 570 recaptured Africans aboard? - ALT2:
... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 African captives, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 Africans?- under 200 characters - Reviewed 1:Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine - 20 January
- Reviewed 2:Zerat - 21 January
- Date, length of both articles OK. Offline hook ref AGF. However, I don't think the hook adequately explains that the HMS Nimble was an anti-slave patrol, and the overuse of numbers weighs the hook down. How about:
- ALT3: ... that in 1827, the anti-slave patrol HMS Nimble ran aground near the Florida Keys while engaged in a gun battle with the Spanish slave ship Guerrero, which also ran aground and sank? Yoninah (talk) 20:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4:
... that in 1827, the anti-slave patrol HMS Nimble managed to sink the Spanish slave ship Guerrero, but recovered only 120 of the 520 surviving Africans because Guerrero crew members hijacked the rest?Yoninah (talk) 20:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- (I took the liberty of renumbering the new alts for clarity.) ALT4 has a problem in that Nimble was not the direct cause of Guerrero sinking, and did not recover any of the Africans; they were taken off Guerrero by wreckers. I have no problem with ALT3.
- OK. But what do you think about:
- ALT5:
... that in 1827, the anti-slave patrol HMS Nimble managed to sink the Spanish slave ship Guerrero, but only 120 of the 520 surviving Africans were recovered because Guerrero crew members hijacked the rest?Yoninah (talk)
- Again, Nimble did not sink Guerrero. Guerrero sank because it hit a reef while being chased by Nimble. -- Donald Albury 21:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Gold business in Thrissur
- ... that Gold business in Thrissur, is a major revenue earner for the Indian state Kerala's economy?
--Created by Jpullokaran (talk) Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
John Mohammed Butt
- ... that in 1984 John Butt became the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the noted Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic Madrasah since its foundation in 1866?
Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just past the size criterion (1668 B). "the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the prestigious Darul Uloom Deoband" has a reference. "prestigious ... Islamic Madrasah in its 145 year history" is not stated. "in 1984" has no reference. Many paras including facts like dates - which require references, do not have them. --Redtigerxyz Talk 12:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- The foundation date of Darul Uloom Deoband is given in the wikipedia article dealing with that subject. However I concede that there is no citation for that date in that source article. I have therefore amended the nominated article to include a citation for the foundation of Darul Uloom Deoband (even though Darul Uloom Deoband is NOT the subject of the nominated article). The other items referred by the reviewer as needing references are all covered by the three independent references already cited in this article - as would be clear to anyone who read them. I have not noticed in-line citations for every non-contentious statement made in other articles - however I have added them to this article to suit this particular reviewers preference. I have also changed the tag to read "since it was founded in 1866" instead of "in its 145 year history". Josephus (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
RAF Weston-super-Mare
- ... that RAF Weston-super-Mare took over an earlier municipal airport?
- Reviewed: Tojg
Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Size, and date OK; off line refs not checked. Rjm at sleepers (talk) 15:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- For those of us not in the UK, perhaps the intro might mention this is "near Bristol, on the west coast..."? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1... that RAF Weston-super-Mare in Somerset, South West England took over an earlier municipal airport?— Rod talk 20:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- I like alt1 because it tells non UK folk where this is cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 04:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that RAF Weston-super-Mare, located in South West England, was formed in 1940 when the Royal Air Force took over an existing municipal airport?
- ...this would be a much better read, I think... - The Bushranger One ping only 06:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I like alt1 because it tells non UK folk where this is cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 04:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1... that RAF Weston-super-Mare in Somerset, South West England took over an earlier municipal airport?— Rod talk 20:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- For those of us not in the UK, perhaps the intro might mention this is "near Bristol, on the west coast..."? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Our Lady of Victory's Church (New York City)
- ... that the Church of Our Lady of Victory in the heart of New York City's Financial District is known as the "War Memorial Church" because it was founded during World War II when Allied victory was not yet assured by Cardinal Francis Spellman, the Apostolic Vicar for the U.S. Armed Forces, with its site donated my Major Edward Bowes and was dedicated by Spellman as a "...Holy Shrine...in Thanksgiving for Victory won by our valiant dead, our soldier’s blood, our country’s tears, shed to defend men’s rights and win back men’s hearts to God."
5x expanded by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article is currently at AfD. Schwede66 20:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC) Update on AfD is that the AfD nominator now agrees that the amended article meets notability, so a DYK review can now start, as it seems a certain keep. Schwede66 17:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- .. that the New York City's Church of Our Lady of Victory is known as the "War Memorial Church" because it was founded 1944 by the Apostolic Vicar for the U.S. Armed Forces before Allied victory was assured.--James R (talk)
Jal Hans
... that Jal Hans, India's first amphibious aircraft service, is part owned by Pawan Hans, India's largest helicopter services provider?- ALT1 ... that Jal Hans, India's first commercial seaplane service, is part owned by Pawan Hans, India's largest helicopter services provider?
Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते (Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते). Self nom at 05:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Creation date and hook verified. However, the article has only 784 characters of prose and needs at least 1500. It may need a copy edit, too. Citations should be placed directly after the hook facts. Instead of the word "amphibious" in the hook, "seaplane" would be better because that's what the sources say. - PM800 (talk) 06:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think the length matches now. Citations placed directly after hooked facts/sentences. ALT hook as above. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 07:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: National Terrorism Advisory System ([[5]]) Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 24
Bærum Tunnel
- ... that during the construction of the Bærum Tunnel, an automatic measuring system of the groundwater was used to automatically compensate for any leaks?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Spanish ship San Ildefonso. Arsenikk (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Ransom Dunn
... that Ransom Dunn, an American minister and Free Will Baptist theologian, was President of Rio Grande College in Ohio and Hillsdale College in Michigan?
Created by Sp7412 (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), and Swampyank (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 17:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Mission Hill Winery.
- Date, length, hook ref verified. What do you think about a more exciting hook, like:
- ALT1: ... that American minister and Free Will Baptist theologian Ransom Dunn rode over thousands of miles of frontier on horseback, collecting donations for the opening of Hillsdale College? Yoninah (talk) 14:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Lyttelton by-election, 1933
- ... that Elizabeth McCombs (pictured), who won the 1933 Lyttelton by-election succeeding her deceased husband, was the first woman elected to the New Zealand Parliament?
- ALT1:... that by winning the 1933 Lyttelton by-election, Elizabeth McCombs (pictured) was the first woman elected to Parliament—40 years after New Zealand women won the right to vote?
Created by Walsh11111 (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Claude-Étienne Guyot on 12 Jan. Schwede66 03:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
1947 Croydon Dakota accident
- ... that when a Douglas Dakota crashed on takeoff at London's Croydon Airport in 1947, 12 people were killed?
- Comment: non-self-nom
Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 02:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
1957 Blackbushe Viking accident
- ... that 34 of 35 people aboard were killed when a Vickers Viking airliner crashed in Hampshire in May 1957?
- Comment: non-self-nom
Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length OK; hook OK (I changed "during" to "in"); hook fact cited inline, and offline refs AGF'd. Good to go. BabelStone (talk) 01:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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- As noted above, this is not a self-nomination. Therefore a QPQ review is not required. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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Kwango River
- ... that diamond prospecting permits have been awarded covering an area of 2150 sqkm between Temboc and Kasonga Lunda over the Kwango River (pictured) stretch of about 185 km in Angola?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Tupaia miocenica--Nvvchar. 13:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook verified. Nice work on this article. Parsecboy (talk) 16:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The article's grammar, I'm afraid, is atrocious. It needs a good copyedit before appearing on the Main Page. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- It has been copy edited by Rosiestep now. --Nvvchar. 02:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Fred Gregory
- ... that Fred Gregory was one of four brothers who were simultaneously contracted to Watford Football Club?
- ALT1:... that Fred Gregory captained Watford Football Club in their first ever Football League match?
Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Yecapixtla.
- date, size, and hook check out, assume good faith with the source, either hook is fine but personally prefer the first. J04n(talk page) 04:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that Fred and Val Gregory were two of four brothers who were simultaneously contracted to Watford Football Club?
(sorry about the late add-on, didn't think I'd have as much access to the necessary sources as I'm getting). —WFC— 13:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that Fred and Val Gregory were two of four brothers who were simultaneously contracted to Watford Football Club?
- date, size, and hook check out, assume good faith with the source, either hook is fine but personally prefer the first. J04n(talk page) 04:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
SS. Cyril, Methodius, and Raphael's Church (New York City)
- ... that the distinguished former U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan from New York was a parishioner and cast his first vote in the former St. Raphael's Church, then an Irish Roman Catholic parish in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, New York City, which merged with the Croatian Roman Catholic parish of SS. Cyril & Methodius in 1974 to create the New York's Croatian Catholic parish of SS. Cyril, Methodius, and Raphael's Church (New York City)
5x expanded by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Relevant article is not bolded; hook is 438 characters long, possibly a record! See the rules. Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not a record by a long shot. Our Lady of Victory's Church (New York City) above has a 542 character hook! Schwede66 17:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the distinguished former U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a parishioner and cast his first vote in the former St. Raphael's Church in New York City? Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Breeding Ground (band)
... that Breeding Ground were a popular 80s post-punk band, based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and that they were asked to open for famous groups such as Bauhaus, The Stranglers, and Echo and the Bunnymen due to their national radio airplay?
Created by AirCombat (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is much too long, at 236 characters (checked using Microsoft Word, with spaces). Are you able to bring this down under 200 characters? Arctic Night 22:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Suggested more concise hook by third party (191 characters):
- ALT1 ... that Breeding Ground, a 1980s Toronto-based post-punk band, were asked to open for famous groups such as Bauhaus, The Stranglers and Echo & the Bunnymen due to their national radio airplay? --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! Thanks Fuhghettaboutit! AC (talk) 02:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! Thanks Fuhghettaboutit! AC (talk) 02:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Here's another: (199 characters)
- ALT2 ... that Breeding Ground, a post-punk Toronto band founded in 1981, opened for popular bands such as Bauhaus, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Stranglers because of their hit single "Happy Now I Know" featuring Molly Johnson on vocals? AC (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Lind Tower on January 28th, 10:40PM EDT. AC (talk) 03:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've struck out the original hook for clarity, and amended the ALT hooks to avoid redirects. I've also linked to Bauhaus (band) rather than the German design school. A reviewer (or the nominator) may want to check whether this problem arises in the article, too. Schwede66 17:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Wheeling Tunnel
- ... that over 13,000 square feet (1,200 m2) of German-made tile lines the interior of the Wheeling Tunnel (eastern entrance pictured)?
Created by Admrboltz (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size and hook all OK.--obi2canibetalk contr 22:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
St. Laurence and All Saints Church, Eastwood
- ... that the ancient church of St. Laurence and All Saints (pictured) has been under threat of demolition to accommodate the expansion of London Southend Airport?
Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now reviewed McCants Stewart (see here). -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Could I suggest a couple of others?
- ALT1 that St. Laurence and All Saints Church, Eastwood (pictured) was built of rag-stone rubble and flint with limestone dressings, as well as Roman and Tudor brickwork? Simply south...... 21:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 that the medieval church St. Laurence and All Saints Church, Eastwood (pictured) must replace 38 metres (125 ft) of its wall to accommodate London Southend Airport? Sharktopustalk 01:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Pleurosternon
- ... that together with Platychelys, Pleurosternon is one of the few fossil genera with characteristics of both modern turtle suborders?
Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- good to go, but hook is rather boring. Probably can't make an engaging hook about... turtles. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 08:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- oops, i didnt see that i had to review another article until today. i just verified Bobby Simpson thanks, Ryan shell (talk) 02:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Grochowiska
- ... that the battle of Grochowiska, one of the largest battles of the January Uprising, has been also described as the "most bloody" and a "Pyrrhic victory" for the Polish insurgents?
Created by Volunteer Marek (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Since one my DYKs (New York's graffiti) is not meeting the requirements, I am transferring the reviewing credit from it here. I hope that's fine :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nice read, concise and interesting. AGF on Polish sources. Constantine ✍ 09:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
There Are More Things
- ... that the short story There Are More Things by Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges was written in memory of H. P. Lovecraft?
- Reviewed: Testament of Ba ([7])
Created by TomasBat (talk). Self nom at 17:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- The paragraphs of the article provide a synopsis of the story, but they lack individual footnotes. Also, the cited sources seem to be all fan-sites devoted to H. P. Lovecraft, which may not meet the reliability concerns. Finally, the article should have more attention to non-Lovecraft aspects of the story, since the article is not named "Lovecraft and There Are More Things".
- The article lacks a proper reference to the story itself. Use the chapter=(There are more things, or Hay más quesos???) option in the template and give page numbers. Please provide a citation to an English translation, especially if it was originally published in a journal with electric access. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- (Otherwise, the article's prose style seems good, and the length is okay.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've fixed most of the stuff you pointed out. I specified the chapter, cited an English translation, cited a published book of literary analysis from the University of Texas (which I believe meets reliability concerns), and added a bit on criticism of the story. As for the article having "more attention to non-Lovecraft aspects of the story", I'm not very sure of what you expect — the story was written in memory of Lovecraft (Borges himself stated so), so the structure, style, and plot devices are very similar to Lovecraft's tales... In other words, there isn't much else to say... ♠TomasBat 02:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well done. :) I was concerned that the sources were from Lovecraft fan cites, and I just wanted something from a Borges-centric source, and you made me happy. The article is even better written, now. (It is nice to cite the translator, but I suppose that The Book of Sand article does that.) Well done!
- Now, how about the following hook:
- ALT1: ... that Jorge Luis Borges wrote his short story There Are More Things as a memorial to H. P. Lovecraft?
- It's short, direct, and punchy. (You might include a picture of Borges in your nomination, and put a picture of Borges in your article, ....) Would you check the story's punctuation: Didn't Borges quote the original Shakespearean phrase with quotation marks? Thanks! Best, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 03:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The Spanish version of the story can be found online. The title is not in quotes, but it's in English. 'There are more things' (without the quotes) is the title of the Spanish version of the story. (See also the title of the Spanish wiki article at es:There are more things). The story is dedicated 'A la memoria de Howard P. Lovecraft.' There is heavy critical literature on Borges so further expansion (with references) should not be a problem. I do not find any online versions of the story in English, even behind a paywall. The opening sentence of our 'Plot' section might be clarified: the narrator himself is in Austin, Texas (not Argentina) when he receives the news that his uncle has died in the town of Lomas de Zamora in Argentina. In the intro of our article it states "Borges himself was quite skeptical about his tribute to Lovecraft (as expressed in the book's epilogue)" but we should not take that skepticism too seriously. I think Borges is just pulling our leg in his usual way. EdJohnston (talk) 07:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- GREAT! I prefer "memorial" to "tribute", because of the definite death of the former. There are all of these "Back Street Boys" tribute bands .... Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now will you work on The Sect of the Thirty? (some need help getting it.) ;) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought The Sect of the Phoenix was the one some people didn't get... But yeah, I would like to work on The Sect of the Thirty (I love the twist ending), but I'm not sure if there is enough literary analysis of it to use as references, though... Cheers! ♠TomasBat 21:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now will you work on The Sect of the Thirty? (some need help getting it.) ;) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
3.5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rocket
- ... that the 3.5-Inch FFAR (pictured under TBF Avenger wing), developed by the U.S. Navy as an anti-submarine weapon, lacked an explosive warhead?
- Comment: Proposed alternate hook for RAF Weston-super-Mare
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Cognitive rehabilitation therapy
- ... that cognitive rehabilitation therapy has been recommended for U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, but it is not covered by the Pentagon to treat U.S. veterans with traumatic brain injury?
Created by Betsythedevine (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I just got my first two DYKs in the past week, plus one more waiting for review (Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts). betsythedevine (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Hell (crater). betsythedevine (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- IMO there's NPOV issues in the hook and in the article in respect to Pentagon.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have attempted to improve the article, and how about this for a hook... ALT... that cognitive rehabilitation therapy, which has been recommended for U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, is also used to treat depression, schizophrenia, and ADHD? betsythedevine (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Nazarov cyclization reaction
- ...
that the first enantioselective total synthesis of the antitumor antibiotic roseophilin was accomplished using the Nazarov cyclization reaction as a key step?
- Comment: I have less than 5 DYK credits
5x expanded by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length Ok. Just to check with you, wasn't doi:10.1021/ja973846k enantioselective? (I can't download it right now). Also the hook might be shortened to
- ... that the first enantioselective total synthesis of the antitumor antibiotic roseophilin used the Nazarov cyclization reaction as a key step? Materialscientist (talk) 12:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm OK with the shortened hook. And I believe Furstner's synthesis was racemic; his macrocyclization uses a palladium catalyzed reaction of a racemic epoxide. No chiral ligands are used and there's no claim that they confirmed the absolute stereochemistry by any means. doi:10.1016/j.tet.2005.05.019 refers to Tius's synthesis as the first asymmetric synthesis; perhaps an additional citation in the article text would be helpful. M.Levin 14:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Its getting somewhat too complicated and I would rather pass and AGF. The abstract of doi:10.1021/ja973846k says "installs the isopropyl substituent in a stereoselective manner" about one of the steps, yet the article itself suggests the synthesis (or at least some parts) was not stereoselective. Still, they do claim first synthesis of roseophilin, do you think a comment is worth adding to the article on this? Materialscientist (talk) 02:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm. I just added a reference to the review which claims that the Tius synthesis is the first asymmetric one, just to be safe. Thanks!M.Levin 02:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Its getting somewhat too complicated and I would rather pass and AGF. The abstract of doi:10.1021/ja973846k says "installs the isopropyl substituent in a stereoselective manner" about one of the steps, yet the article itself suggests the synthesis (or at least some parts) was not stereoselective. Still, they do claim first synthesis of roseophilin, do you think a comment is worth adding to the article on this? Materialscientist (talk) 02:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok then, we can't discuss all primary claims. Materialscientist (talk) 23:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Funtime (Iggy Pop song)
- ... that the Iggy Pop song "Funtime" has been covered by R.E.M., The Cars, Blondie, Boy George and Liv Tyler's mom?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Hingham Bay [8]. 28bytes (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- size, sources, time and hook all look good to me --Guerillero | My Talk 04:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Space policy
- ... that space policy encompasses not only a country's civilian space program, but also its policy on both military use and commercial use of outer space?
Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 04:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length and dates are fine but article uses only a single source and that is used just once to cite the opening paragraph as a whole. The hook fact must be directly cited, there should be a minimum of one citation per paragraph, and the article is woefully incomplete. It mentions only the United States and European Union but none of the other spacegoing nations. - Dravecky (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't really understand the rule against using a ref at the end of the paragraph... I mean, I could put the same ref after the relevant sentence too, but that would just look funny. After all, it's all coming from the same source no matter which sentence it is.
Articles created/expanded on January 25
Green-backed Trogon
- ... that Green-backed Trogons feed mostly on fruit?
- Comment: Non-self-nom. Pic will probably need to be cropped for DYK.
Created by Rabo3 (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 23:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Although the Ecology subsection of Green-backed Trogon uses the same wording as contained in the White-tailed Trogon, there are 1955 characters in the intro and descrip sections as of the time of this review. Those 1955 characters partially represent a necessary re-write of material from White-tailed Trogon due to the taxonomic split, so I believe this is justified. The article's creation date and the online citation for the hook both check out. I think that this item would be fine for DYK without the picture - nice, snappy hook - but that the picture could be used if cropped and the background photoshopped to a paler colour.--Storye book (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Eddington, Kent
- ... that Herne Bay College in Eddington, Kent, once possessed one of the largest and best-equipped school engineering workshops in England?
Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Rudolf Elmer today.--Storye book (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
AGF on the printed ref, date and length just fine. Nice article all around. Dahn (talk) 11:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nurit Kedar
- ... that Israeli film-maker Nurit Kedar received death threats after extracts from her film Concrete were screened on Britain's Channel 4 television?
Created by RolandR (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Saints Kiril & Metodij Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Diocese Cathedral RolandR (talk) 00:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- New article, timely, ref substantial, date good TSRL (talk) 17:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Farman Moustique
- ... that the Farman F.450 Moustiqe, bought in numbers in 1936 by the French government to bring flying to the masses, was also sold with an optional dog compartment for the hunting set?
Created/expanded by TSRL (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Nurit KedarTSRL (talk) 17:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- AGF on the source, while size and date also check out. However, hook is unclear about what a "Farman F.450 Moustiqe" is, plus it's a little long. I recommend the following alternate hook:
- ALT1: ... that the Farman F.450 Moustiqe, a type of French monoplane from the early 1900s, was also sold with an optional dog compartment? – VisionHolder « talk » 08:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks; right about the aircraft. Could sharpen ALT1 slightly with:
- ALT2 ... that the Farman F.450 Moustiqe, a French sport and training monoplane from the 1930s, was sold with an optional dog compartment?TSRL (talk) 08:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Saints Kiril & Metodij Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Diocese Cathedral
- ... that the Saints Kiril & Metodij Cathedral in New York City has been a Protestant church, a Catholic church, and a Bulgarian Orthodox cathedral?
Created by James Russiello (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 04:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Sources cited do not confirm the hook. RolandR (talk) 17:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- That review didn't identify the specifics of the problem. I have, however, added more citation callouts to the article in hopes that it will resolve things. If there is still an issue, please be more specific about what elements of the hook are unsupported. --Orlady (talk) 17:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should have been more specific. Even after your additions, none of the sources appear to confirm that this building has previously been a Protestant or Catholic church. If they do, it is not immediately apparent, and the citations need to be more explicit. RolandR (talk) 18:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Got it. The source for the "Protestant" part is in the "Refuge on 50th Street" section of this page, which source also tells about how the Protestant church was converted to a Roman Catholic church, and it tells about the Catholic church moving to a new location in 1974. I believe that is the item cited in the article. --Orlady (talk) 19:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Harrumph! The article author will need to help out here. I've found two sources that indicate that the first occupant of the building was actually a Polish Catholic church named St. Clemens. One source says that St. Clemens moved to 40th off 9th Avenue in 1909, and closed in 1971. The other source, a book published in 1914, interestingly differs on the month in 1913 that the Croatian Catholic church was dedicated. However, since Nov. 16, 1913 (the date given in the article) was a Sunday and October 16 (the date given in the 1914 book) was not, I'm inclined to believe the date in the article. --Orlady (talk) 19:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Friends of the Five Creeks
- ... that the Friends of the Five Creeks helps restore creeks in the San Francisco Bay Area's East Bay including daylighting Marin Creek?
Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article at AFD. Materialscientist (talk) 00:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- A completely unmerited AfD however, where do we go from hereThisbites (talk) 01:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- We just need to hold this here until the AfD closes. In the meantime, though, I've discovered that this article is linked in the hook for Pacific East Mall (somewhere above). This looks like an opportunity for a dual hook -- after the AfD closes. --Orlady (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Dunhuang Go Manual
- ... that the Dunhuang Go Manual is the earliest surviving manual on the strategic board game of Go?
- Reviewed: 1957 Blackbushe Viking accident
Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 01:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Democratic Farmers League of Sweden
- ... that the Democratic Farmers League of Sweden promoted a modernized form of copyhold, whereby peasants would be relieved from debts?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I reviewed Law of Vanuatu. --Soman (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Vlastimil Koubek
- ... that architect Vlastimil Koubek arrived in the United States from Czechoslovakia with just $12, but by the end of his career had designed buildings worth more than $2 billion (USF&G Building pictured)?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 18:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cristom Vineyards. - Tim1965 (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out. Very nice creation! Arctic Night 18:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Brian K. Zahra
- ... that Brian K. Zahra was appointed to the Michigan Supreme Court by Governor Rick Snyder to replace Maura Corrigan leaving Republicans with a 4-3 majority on the court?
Created by Jtmichcock (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Tourism in Malta
- ... that despite tourist numbers in Malta falling by 8 percent in 2009, the number of tourists arriving from Libya jumped by 24.7 percent?
- Reviewed: Congregation Dorshei Emet ([9])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length OK but I could not find "8 per cent" quoted in Ref 13; there should be a citation directly following the sentence referring to Libya; and I could not get Ref 14 to work, it just gave a page of code (or did I do something wrong?). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- For me, that page brings up a PDF document - if it's still not working for you, click on the appropriate link here. If it's still not working, use the DYKtickAGF template instead of the DYKtick one. I can assure you those figures are there :D Just a note: refs 13 and 14 have been switched (with the MTA link now being ref 13 and the news article ref 14), and a reference has been added after the Libya fact. Just to make it even more confusing for you! Arctic Night 14:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- It must be a browser problem. The link works with Internet Explorer but not with Firefox. And the same happens when I try to get it direct from the Malta source; Firefox gives gibberish. Anyway so far as this nomination is concerned, all is now well. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Primitive Hall
- ... that Primitive Hall, built by Joseph Pennock in 1738, has been owned or controlled by his descendants ever since?
- ALT1:... that Primitive Hall was built by Joseph Pennock in 1738 after his impostum broke?
Created by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Phillips Petroleum v. Wisconsin [10]
- Looks good to me, original hook preferred, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Theory of generations
- ... that according to the theory of generations, major historical events are crucial in shaping generations?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Thomas Dixson. Couldn't figure out how to avoid using the word "generation" twice in the hook... Alts are as always welcome. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm halfway through reviewing this and get back to it shortly. SmartSE (talk) 17:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. How about this though:
- ALT1 ... that according to the theory of generations, major historical events that occur in a generation's youth, determine the actions they take later in life?
- SmartSE (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Wabbicommicot
- ... that in 1763, the Mississauga chief Wabbicommicot appeared at Fort Niagara to demand rum payments from the British, and warned of consequences should they not be received?
- Reviewed: diff
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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Cyril Genik
- ... that in recognition of his efforts to assist new Ukrainian immigrants to Canada, Cyril Genik was dubbed the "Czar of Canada"?
- Reviewed: Breeding Ground ([11])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Jules Fournier
- ... that in 1909, journalist Jules Fournier was charged with contempt of court in Quebec for calling decisions made by its courts system a "prostitution of justice"?
- Reviewed: Freedom of Expression(R) ([12])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The entire article hangs on a single tertiary source (encyclopedia). Additional sources, particularly secondary sources, are needed before this goes to the main page. cmadler (talk) 13:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- More references have been added, although it should be noted that the Dictionary of Canadian Biography more than meets the standard for source reliability as discussed numerous times before. Arctic Night 13:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- (AGF for French sources, but pretty much everything is also confirmed by the English source.) Thanks, I wasn't suggesting that it isn't reliable, merely that any article going to the main page should have multiple sources, and that secondary sources are much preferred to tertiary sources. cmadler (talk) 14:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think the picture should be there. To be honest, it's not necessary, and there are other hooks that need the picture space more than this one does. Arctic Night 15:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
1934 Hillman's Airways de Havilland Dragon Rapide crash
- ... that the Dragon Rapide aircraft that crashed into the English Channel off Folkestone in 1934 had taken part in that year's King's Cup Air Race?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed St. Laurence and All Saints Church, Eastwood Mjroots (talk) 10:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 13:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Walton J. Wood
- ... that the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors appointed Stanford University alumnus Walton J. Wood as the first public defender in the history of the United States in 1914?
- ALT1:... that Stanford University alumnus Walton J. Wood became the first public defender in the history of the United States in 1914?
- Reviewed: Tony Lombardi, Rick Rasnick ([13])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
2.25-Inch Sub-Caliber Aircraft Rocket
- ... that during World War Two, bomber pilots of the United States Navy learned how to launch aerial rockets using SCARs?
- Reviewed: Joseph Borg (regulator)
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I can't see where in the article it says that. Can you point it out? Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, yeah, it wasn't as clear as I'd thought I'd make it. I've flailed at it a bit, hopefully it's cleared now? - The Bushranger One ping only 01:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The cited source says "The 2.25-Inch SCAR (Sub-Caliber Aircraft Rocket) was a family of air-to-ground training rockets used for air-to-ground rocket firing practice by fighter-bomber pilots in the 2nd World War." It doesn't exactly say they learned how to launch 5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rockets using them, does it? Jayjg (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- No, but it's implied, since the 5" FFAR was one of only two types of air-to-ground rocket in service at the time. However, I've removed the link from the hook. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Strange Liberation
- ... that Dave Douglas got the name for his album Strange Liberation from a phrase made by Martin Luther King, Jr. in reference to America's involvement in the Vietnam War?
5x expanded by J04n (talk). Self nom at 04:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alt 1: ... that track "Just Say This" from Dave Douglas's album Strange Liberation refers to the September 11 attacks and their aftermath?
- Reviewed Fred Gregory. J04n(talk page) 04:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alt 1: ... that track "Just Say This" from Dave Douglas's album Strange Liberation refers to the September 11 attacks and their aftermath?
- DYK criteria met. I prefer the original hook. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Joseph Borg (regulator)
- ... that Joseph Borg has encountered unsuccessful resistance from Wall Street firms such as Morgan Stanley?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nice article. Checks out overall, but I strongly reccoment a better hook. Something about that armoured-car raid in Florida might make for a much more "hooky" hook. Also reccomend adding the date-of-birth for the article, too. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, how about "... that when Joseph Borg seized the headquarters of a corrupt Christian ministry in Tampa he used an armored vehicle but encountered no resistance?" Also, I can't find a source with an exact DOB, but the Wall Street Journal article yesterday said that he is 59. Is that good enough to write that he was born in 1951? Qrsdogg (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say that's good enough, as it fits the "anybody can figure this out easily" criterion and thus avoids being OR. As for the hook, I'd suggest striking the "but..." part, it seems extraneous. But either way it works. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. I really wanted to work the word "resistance" (get it?) into the hook though, so I'd prefer to keep that part. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- ...I just took 2d6 PUN damage. =P - The Bushranger One ping only 21:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. I really wanted to work the word "resistance" (get it?) into the hook though, so I'd prefer to keep that part. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say that's good enough, as it fits the "anybody can figure this out easily" criterion and thus avoids being OR. As for the hook, I'd suggest striking the "but..." part, it seems extraneous. But either way it works. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
1959 National League tie-breaker series
- ... that the Los Angeles Dodgers' victory in the 1959 tie-breaker series was one of five tie-breaker appearances in franchise history, more than any other team in Major League Baseball history?
5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- A quality DYK submission that checks out on all fronts
(except for the nominator reviewing). — KV5 • Talk • 12:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Apologies, my first DYK nom in a while and I missed that. Reviewed: Crestwood Court. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- A quality DYK submission that checks out on all fronts
- NOTE This really is massively more than a 5x expansion. The edit history looks wonky because I've been writing this in my sandbox for a long time (law school rather sucked up my time for a while there). The last article space version before I made the move can be seen here, just 744 characters/130 words. The current version is 15754 characters/2778 words. Staxringold talkcontribs 02:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Crestwood Court
- ... that Crestwood Court, the first mall in the St. Louis area, has countered the loss of major retailers by adding tenants such as an art gallery and dance studio?
Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yep, checks out. The reference nicely covers this fact. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on January 26
Ivory trade
- ... since 1970, the ivory trade has been primarily responsible for the death of more than 500,000 elephants?
5x expanded by Enviro2009 (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- (reviewed Charlie Webb and Hell (crater))
William Stanley Jenkins
- ... that flying ace William Stanley Jenkins scored his first two confirmed aerial victories while still posted to hospital ....?
Created/expanded by Georgejdorner (talk). Nominated by Self (Georgejdorner) (talk) at 23:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nehrim: At Fate's Edge
- ... that Nehrim: At Fate's Edge is an award-winning total conversion mod of Bethesda Softworks' The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion developed over the span of four years?
Created by Headbomb (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- BTW, I have less than 5 nominations, although I'll check if I can't review something else anyway. No guaranties though. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Blame Israel (Meme)
- ... that Ahmed Sheikh, who is the editor-in-chief of the Qatar-based television channel Al Jazeera believes that "if Israel did not exist, there would suddenly be democracy in Egypt"?
- Reviewed: I have less than 5 DYK
- Comment: The article is currently nominated on deletion, but it probably will be kept, and I would not like to miss on DYK guidelines.
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by ברוקולי (talk) at 17:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment, I would expect to see something in bold in there. Also the way the DYK is phrased, it seems like this is more about Ahmed Sheikh than about "Blame Israel" itself. How about something like "... that in several Arab countries and in Israel itself, "Blame Israel" is a popular saying said whenever something bad happens, regardless of whether Israel is even involved in the situation?" That is assuming the article is kept, which is very uncertain at this moment. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comment and for offering an alternative hook, Headbomb.It was very helpful indeed. Let's see how AFD will end up. The article was nominated for DYK only because there's 5 days requirement on DYK nominations, and AFD usually lasts at least 7 days. If article is kept, then the hook could be discussed at that time.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- This seems like a poor attempt at "legitimize my article via a DYK listing", as the article in question is currently the subject of a deletion discussion. IMO, no article that is currently sitting at AfD should be eligible here. Tarc (talk) 19:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. The animal spy conspiracies one was eventually cleaned up and deemed suitable for DYK, but an article should be ready to appear on the main page before it is nominated. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, there are lots of articles that get nominated here that need a lot of fixing. And it's not too uncommon that articles are at AfD while there is a nomination here. When that happens, we simply await the AfD outcome. If the decision is 'keep', we'll then start the review process here. Owing to DYK rules (e.g. new articles have to be nominated within 5 days to be eligible), it's impossible not to accept nominations while some kind of dispute is going on. The nomination has be be received on time, and the dispute can then sort itself out. Schwede66 04:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Elke Neidhardt
- ... that Elke Neidhardt appeared nude in the 1973 film Libido and directed the first Australian production of Wagner's Parsifal?
Created by JackofOz (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- As the creator, I obviously support this (and thanks, Gerda). But I think a more stark contrast would be:
- ... that Elke Neidhardt, who had a recurring minor role in Skippy the Bush Kangaroo, went on to direct the first full modern Australian production of Wagner's Ring Cycle. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 13:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Mission Hill Winery
- ... that Fonderie Paccard, who crafted the four bells for the Mission Hill Winery bell tower (pictured) also created the bells for St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York and Sacré-Cœur in Paris?
Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Mission Hill Winery (pictured) owns nearly 12 percent of the entire vineyard area in British Columbia?
- Reviewed: Okanagan Valley (wine region) - Diff.
1975 Orange Bowl
- ... that an interception thrown by Richard Todd sealed victory for Notre Dame over Alabama in the 1975 Orange Bowl?
- Comment: Non-self-nom
Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 03:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook fact check out. If I had one critique here, it's that I find the hook a little on the blah side. How about this one, which includes what I found to be the most interesting fact in the article?
- ALT1 ... that the 1975 Orange Bowl was the last college football game coached by Ara Parseghian at Notre Dame? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, that might work better. Works for me either way - The Bushranger One ping only 23:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede
- ... that the Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede (pictured) is one of three machines credited as the first motorcycle?
- ALT1:.. that the Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede (pictured) has been championed as the first motorcycle against the decade and a half later Daimler-Maybach machine?
- Reviewed: Ruby Buckton
Created by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Alt image, easier to see at 100px. Both images good with either hook.
- Date and length OK. Images both got an OK license (top image not good at 100px). Original hook fact cited inline, and offline refs AGF'd. I couldn't find where exactly the ALT-1 hook fact was explicitly stated in the article, so have not verified it, but I prefer the shorter and simpler original hook anyway. BabelStone (talk) 23:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
U Dhammaloka
- … that U Dhammaloka (pictured) was an Irish hobo who became one of the first known western Buddhist monks and was twice tried for sedition?
Created by Laurence Cox (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- One of the fundamental DYK requirements is that an article has at least one inline citation per paragraph. The article has hardcoded notes that refer to a long list of references. In my opinion, that's not good enough, but it should be easy enough for the nominator to convert that to shortened footnotes. I'll notify the nominator (who is a new editor, and who has put a lot of effort into writing that article - very well done!) and will let him know a few other DYK tricks of the trade. Also, I've fixed some hook issues (bold target article; pictured in italics; avoid redirects). I haven't as yet checked the hook fact. The article is new and certainly long/comprehensive enough. Schwede66 22:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Nominator response: Hi Schwede66: many thanks for the hook fixes and kind comments on the article! It's good to know I'm not missing the mark entirely. Thanks too for taking the time to put in examples of the footnote model on the Dhammaloka page etc.
I did think about using footnotes for the article but discovered from reading around that multiple referencing approaches are acceptable on Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia:Parenthetical referencing the (author, date) style is "one of the citation styles recommended for Wikipedia, although it is less common than footnotes (or endnotes)". I will think again about using a footnoting style.
Part of the difficulty with this article is that almost every fact about its subject had to be collated from a complex range of often fragmentary data, so that to give chapter and verse for each individual fact as it appears in the article would be to drown the text in a welter of footnotes - or else to go into minute detail beyond general levels of interest. Hence the choice of citations at the end rather than as points are made.
The page Wikipedia:Inline_citation specifies: "An inline citation is any system that allows the reader to associate a given bit of material in an article with the specific reliable source(s) that support it. Inline citations are often at the end of a sentence or paragraph."
If DYK wants footnotes rather than (author, date) referencing in the original article, then obviously I'm happy to withdraw the nomination here. Or if there's a simpler way of associating the (author, date) reference to the final biblio piece, even better.
Either way, many thanks for your time! Laurence —Preceding undated comment added 00:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC).
- It's good to see that you've considered this so carefully. My suggestion is that you simply convert the parenthetical references to shortened footnotes, so that should be a very simple job. And thanks for bringing to my attention that this system is indeed one of the acceptable referencing styles. So please see this as a suggestion, rather than a DYK requirement. I (or somebody else) will get onto checking the hook fact. Schwede66 02:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
WGRQ
- ... that the radio station WGRQ began broadcasting in May 1986 but did not receive its broadcast license until November 1987?
5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Space policy (diff)
- article should not need cleanup (
{{cn}}
tag); suggest researching or removing this statement. Otherwise, 5x expansion confirmed, sources are sufficient, hook confirmed. Suggest adding program test authority to your hook. tedder (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Education in Malta
- ... that despite the test being resoundingly hailed as ineffective and promoting inequality by educational experts, an eleven plus exam is still incorporated into the Maltese educational system?
- Reviewed: Antioch mosaics ([14])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Antioch mosaics
- ... that over 300 mosaic floors (example pictured) were discovered during archaeological excavations of Antioch between 1932 and 1939?
Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Neoregelia 'Dr. Who' at April fools--Found5dollar (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- There are plenty of other images that can be used in the article.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Twist of Shadows
- ... that the Clan of Xymox album Twist of Shadows established the Dutch band's cult status in the United Status?
Created by Moonriddengirl (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 00:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT hook: ... that it is unclear who deservers composition credits for the songs on Twist of Shadows, an album by Dutch goth band Clan of Xymox? Drmies (talk) 00:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Mark Stephens (solicitor)
- ... that Julian Assange's lawyer Mark Stephens wanted to be an actor when he was a child?
- ALT1:... that lawyer Mark Stephens fled to the South of France with James Hewitt to avoid the media, after Hewitt's affair with Princess Diana was made public?
- Comment: I will do some work on the lead tomorrow, but the rest of the article is stable for now
5x expanded by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's all sorted now, I've reviewed Theory of generations above. SmartSE (talk) 19:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Corrected punctuation errors in hooks. Drmies (talk) 04:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- As I feared, those particular punctuation errors are found in the article as well. I've gone through a small part of it already, also tweaking other things; the article needs to be proofread completely. Drmies (talk) 04:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for clearing up my mess, English was never my strong point. I've tried to do some more myself - if you want to give me an English lesson then please do ;) I was thinking, should the hook be kept until Feb 7th or 8th (when Assange's case is scheduled to be heard)? SmartSE (talk) 16:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I wish I had seen it was yours, since you'll be able to block me soon. Anyway, let's just say that the mistakes were already there in the old version. As for Assange--that depends on the hook, of course. Actually, that first hook is a bit lame. The second is less so, but is longer. Can you find anything else that's juicy, maybe something about being a controversial lawyer, so that you can stick Assange in the hook? Or what about that list of 1000 big-shot lawyers? Drmies (talk) 03:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough - some ideas for your fancy: something about the foetus earrings made by Rick Gibson? (This would be a bit wordy as he defended the gallery) Being rendered as a Spitting Image puppet? (only based on what his CV says, although quoted in 2ndry sources). In his first influential case he tried to make the BoE look as "stupid as possible"? He has been called the "patron solicitor of lost causes"? (the quote might be a bit long) Maybe a combo of Assange and how he began his career defending artists' FoE? (Readers might find this interesting, considering the wikileaks freedom of speech issue). The 1000-list is a bit lame for a hook IMO - "one of the 1000 most influential people in London" isn't really very revealing. More input is welcome from anyone. SmartSE (talk) 12:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Charles B. Russell House
- ... that the turret of the Charles B. Russell House in Cincinnati, Ohio has a pinnacle shaped like a beehive?
5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment No article reviewed yet. I'm going to be busy for the next few hours, but I should be able to get an article reviewed either tonight or tomorrow. Please don't decline this nom unless you find some problem other than the lack of a review. Nyttend (talk) 23:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Gold business in Thrissur. Nyttend (talk) 01:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Shloime Dachs
- ... that Shloime Dachs is one of the most popular of the new generation of twentysomething singers on the Orthodox Jewish music scene?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed SMS Prinz Adalbert and Charles B. Russell House. Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Ed Freed
- ... that Ed Freed collected four hits, including two doubles and a triple, in his Major League Baseball debut with the Philadelphia Phillies?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- NOTE: Reviewed Bright Lights, Bigger City. — KV5 • Talk • 23:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The hook appears in the article, but didn't have an inline citation, so I added it myself. The source checks out, and date/length are fine. Good to go! Ackatsis (talk) 03:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Euprepius of Verona
- ... that St. Euprepius of Verona is venerated as the city's first bishop?
Created by Polylerus (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Mia Skäringer.
- If you reviewed it why didnt you leave a comment at the nomination?:) Please do. cheers--BabbaQ (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Zahra's Paradise
- ... that authors of the ongoing webcomic Zahra's Paradise remain anonymous, fearing persecution by the Iranian government?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Net.wars
- I cannot find in the article, or in any of the three refs, any mention of the Iranian government. I suggest it would be more accurate (and maybe safer) to leave the last four words out of the hook. (A small point; please place the three refs in numerical order, after the full stop.) --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've added the ilink to Iranian government. The refs are structured in that sentence on purpose, because one is for the first half of the sentence, the two are for the sentence in parenthesis. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:02, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I still don't get it. Can anyone else help, please? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think he's trying to say that the references are in the same order following the sentence as the information they verify is within in the sentence. In that case, it might be prudent, if possible, to move the out-of-order reference to a point in the sentence immediately following the information it verifies. — KV5 • Talk • 02:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I split the sentence into two, I hope it is more clear now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Organising the refs is now fine, but that was not the point of my query. I still cannot find any mention in the online sources to the threat coming from the the Iranian GOVERNMENT. Ref 1 says "to protect their families in Iran", but not from whom. Ref 4 says "fearing what could happen to relatives still in Iran" but not the source of the threat. In fact including the Iranian government in a hook on the main page of WP could be seen to be provocative, especially as the sources do not explicitly refer to it. I suggest you remove the mention of the government, or think of an alt hook. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Net.wars
- ... that prior to authoring Net.wars, Wendy M. Grossman received an award from the American Society of Journalists and Authors for writing about Internet conflicts?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I reviewed Quantum dot solar cell. -- Cirt (talk) 22:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent, all checks out. I'd however considering a hook that is about the book, not the author. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think the hook above is fine and enticing, but I am open to suggestions. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- No offense, but the hook reads like a quote from one's CV :) How about the one below? I think it would make the article more likely to be read. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Wendy M. Grossman's Net.wars, dealing with privacy, copyright and censorship on the Internet, has received numerous positive reviews?
- That would be fine by me. -- Cirt (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of ALT1. Is there an interesting fact from the book that we could use as a hook? ALT1 looks like a promotion for the book... surely we could find something about censorship to use in a hook! I would suggest something like, "in Net.wars, the author accused the ... of ...?" Arctic Night 23:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Mia Skäringer
... that Mia Skäringer (pictured) is a Swedish two-time Kristallen Award winning actress and comedian?
Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed:Chautla Hacienda
- While creation date size and image check (I added the "pictured"), I checked the references and could not find where they verify her winning the award. An English source would also be preferred (though not mandatory). I also propose an alternative hook, though it requires the same sources. --Muhandes (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Mia Skäringer (pictured), a Swedish actress and comedian, won the Kristallen Award for best comedy show on television in both 2008 and 2009?
- I support your hook. I have also found better sourcing for her Kristallen winnings. However only in Swedish (tried to find english sources but didnt find any) but as you said its not mandatory.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- While the sources are better, they both seem to be published in August 2009, and probably relate to the same Kristallen - probably the 2009 one. There still isn't a source for the other Kristallen (and I stroke the original lead as we both prefer the new one) --Muhandes (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I support your hook. I have also found better sourcing for her Kristallen winnings. However only in Swedish (tried to find english sources but didnt find any) but as you said its not mandatory.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have reviewed this article for grammatical and syntactical errors. Should be fine now. --Polylerus (talk) 21:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Chautla Hacienda
- ... that the Chautla Hacienda in Puebla, Mexico, is home to an English style residence hall called "The Castle" (pictured)?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Persian miniature and commented on Jo Tong SopThelmadatter (talk) 22:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
2011 State of the Union Address
- ... that the 2011 State of the Union Address was a speech given by President Barack Obama on January 25, 2011, in the chamber of the United States House of Representatives.
- ALT 1.
- ... that the 2011 State of the Union Address was the first State of the Union address with Speaker of the House John Boehner seated behind the President?
--BabbaQ (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- This article was heavily expanded on January 26.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Bright Lights, Bigger City
- ... that "Bright Lights, Bigger City" is the third single from American soul singer Cee Lo Green's third studio album, The Lady Killer?
- ALT1. ... that singer Cee Lo Green appeared on Saturday Night Live to perform "Bright Lights, Bigger City", the third single from his album The Lady Killer, backed by an all-female band?
Created by Mikoism; nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 19:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything seems to check out in terms of creation, size, references, and etc., but the hook seems a bit dull. Is there something more interesting to dredge up? Also, fix the two all-caps reference titles to be title case instead. — KV5 • Talk • 23:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Uloqsaq
- ... that Copper Inuit men Uloqsaq and Sinnisiak became the first Inuit convicted for murder in Canada when they were found guilty of killing a priest?
- Reviewed: Vlastimil Koubek ([15])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting story.--Wpwatchdog (talk) 21:34, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- ... that 72 per cent of all leisure travellers to Nunavut between June and October 2008 were Canadian?
- Reviewed: Tewkesbury Medieval Festival ([16])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out, but the hook isn't really all that interesting, nor surprising. Anything else that could be used instead? :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 19:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: "... that a popular attraction amongst tourists in Nunavut is iceberg watching?" Arctic Night 08:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's a lot better. I made one small change (ice berg to iceberg). :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 11:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
SMS Prinz Adalbert
- ... that the sinking of the German armored cruiser SMS Prinz Adalbert (pictured) resulted in the greatest single loss of life for the German Imperial Navy in the Baltic Sea during World War I?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nomination for Kwango River checked. Parsecboy (talk) 16:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Badley
- ... that the pews in St Mary's Church, Badley, Suffolk (pictured) have been untouched since the 18th century?
- Reviewed: Tourism in Malta
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
-
- This hook is confusing, I had to read the article to see if the church has been 'moth-balled' since the 18th century - It hasn't. So it seems the pews have been touched by countless arses. Chienlit (talk) 17:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's the difference between pedantry and metaphor. Of course the pews have been literally touched by various sticky pieces of human anatomy. But the word "untouched" is taken from the Heritage Gateway reference and, if you read it, you will understand what it really means. One of the points of a DYK hook is to engage, intrigue, even to "confuse" the reader, so making a greater likelihood that they will click on the article. Isn't it? You had to!! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's the difference between sloppy wording and simple accuracy. Where is it written that One of the points of a DYK hook is to ... "confuse" the reader, (except in the para above of course :) )? Chienlit (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- ... Oh, and by the way, I don't think that we are supposed to use the text/terminology from third party sources as a justification of 'non-wikipedic' metaphor.
(outdent) What is "sloppy" about quoting from a reliable (therefore accurate) and highly respected source? I meant "confuse" above (quoting from you) not in the sense of "wrong" but rather "intrigue". The only "definition" of a DYK hook of which I am aware is "interesting". The Churches Conservation Trust in whom the church is vested, considers the fact to be sufficiently interesting to include it in their blurb. There are very few churches whose furniture has been undisturbed for over 200 years; maybe a few Friends' chapels, but very few Anglican churches, most of which were "touched" in a big way by Victorian restorers, and since. So I used a fact which is verifiably interesting, and quoted the word describing this from a reliable source. And what is the difference between a 'wikipedic' metaphor and a 'non-wikipedic' metaphor? I am unaware of either term.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I see no problems with using "untouched" in this sense in this hook. BencherliteTalk 07:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Tewkesbury Medieval Festival
- ... that in 2003, 25,000 people attended the Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England, to watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons (pictured)?
- ALT: ... that in 2003, 25,000 people attended the Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England, to watch 2,000 people in medieval garb re-enact the Battle of Tewkesbury (pictured)?
- Comment: Article was expanded from 109 words (566 characters) on 21 Jan to 759 words (3903 characters) on 26 Jan.[17]
- Reviewed: Wabbicommicot ([18]), MS Palatia (1928) ([19]), Andreu Mas-Colell ([20])
5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is too long, coming in at 220 characters. The DYK maximum is 200, including spaces, and even this is an absolute maximum. I would try to get this down further than that. In addition, I don't like the "watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons" bit. It makes it sound a little stupid - like, "why would they turn up to watch that?" The truth is, it's a re-enactment of a battle, not a free-for-all "watch 2,000 people act all stupid like". Arctic Night 16:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- It fits once I changed "the United Kingdom" to "England". Note that "(pictured)" is disputed on whether it counts towards the 200-character limit (see E5 of Additional rules); as it is a demand made when a picture is used, I think it should not be counted. As for sounding stupid, the point of the hook is to make it "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. An interesting hook is more likely to draw in a variety of readers." I think it is more interesting to describe the event without telling people about it ("huh? Why would they do that?" vs "yeah, another re-enactment..."). Regardless, I have included a more mundane ALT hook for consideration. Jappalang (talk) 00:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook would have gone over the 200 limit with 'pictured' in it or otherwise. Anyway, for ALT1 - moving admin can make the decision on which hook he or she prefers. Arctic Night 00:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alt2: "that 2,000 people in medieval garb re-enacted the Battle of Tewkesbury at the 2003 Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England?" Clarityfiend (talk) 02:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
tranquillityite, armalcolite, pyroxferroite
- ... that the minerals armalcolite, pyroxferroite and tranquillityite were discovered in lunar rocks?
- Comment: Refs [21] [22]. Reviewing Quantum dot solar cell above. Materialscientist (talk) 11:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nifty. Also good to go. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, we're double reviewing! Just a little query - the ref mentions that yttrobetafite was also discovered on the moon, but the articles say that they where the only three. I gather that the structure wasn't determined, but how about making a little stub and then including it as a hook with the others like "XXX and Y were the only new minerals found on the moon? I think this is more interesting, because when I first read the hook, I assumed that they where a bunch of hundreds of minerals that were found, not just these. SmartSE (talk) 23:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Dozens of "new" structures were found in lunar rocks, but only those approved as new minerals. Yttrobetafite is no longer a mineral [23] and the situation with its successor is uncertain [24] (oxycalciobetafite has a different chemical formula). Because of this, I don't understand whether or not the same yttrobetafites were described on Earth in the 1950s and 1970s (the lunar one was reported in the 1980s). Thus until reliable sources describe its successor and say it was discovered on the Moon, these articles are correct. (thanks for the comment! I have actually overlooked this matter when writing those articles)Materialscientist (talk) 12:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Small quibble - is the "the" before "lunar rocks" in the hook necessary, or even desirable? "Discovered in lunar rocks" sounds more natural to me than "discovered in the lunar rocks". EdChem (talk) 07:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Dropped "the" (could be the rocks from Mare Tranquillitatis or the rocks brought by Apollo 11). Materialscientist (talk) 12:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year
- ... that Italian singer-songwriter Laura Pausini became the first female performer to be nominated for a Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year?
5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 07:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Jerome Lambert
- Cites show Pausini was nominated in 2001 but they're just lists of nominees. There's nothing in the text of the cited articles to show she was the first female performer or, for that matter, that she's female. (Not doubting that, just saying there's nothing here to prove it.) Sure, she was in the second group of nominees ever so it's almost certainly true but the claim in a hook fact must be cited, not merely deduced or inferred. - Dravecky (talk) 22:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Cuban songwriter Emilio Estefan earned the Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year the same year he was named Person of the Year by the Latin Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences? Jaespinoza (talk) 00:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Amala (mythology)
- ... that Amala, the giant who supports the Earth in the mythology of some Native Americans, is said to have slept in his urine?
- Reviewed: Uíge Province
5x expanded by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Ho Tung Gardens
- ... that the Government of Hong Kong invoked the Antiquities and Monuments Ordinance for the fourth time in history to protect Ho Tung Gardens?
Created and nominated by Ohconfucius ¡digame!) at 04:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- My review. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 06:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ready to go, length, hook and age check out. Racepacket (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Jerome Lambert
- ... that after his professional basketball career in Israel was over, Jerome Lambert became a firefighter in Arkansas?
- Reviewed: Saguaro boot
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Isn't it a bit more notable that he was shot to death [25]? Plot Spoiler (talk) 03:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Il Guerrin Meschino
- ...about Il Guerrin Meschino ("Wretched Guerrin"), an Italian prose romance with elements of fable, written by the Tuscan trovatore Andrea da Barberino about 1410?
- Reviewed: Joan of Arc (DuBois)
Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- You didn't review Joan of Arc (DuBois), I did. - PM800 (talk) 07:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, I edited it for content to make it suitable for the Main Page. --Wetman (talk) 07:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's great, but you did not post a "review" here. If you had reviewed the article, you probably would have noticed that it's not eligible for DYK, with or without your copy edit. - PM800 (talk) 08:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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- I've put a note on Wetman's talk page that the review is required for this nomination to proceed. So please give two or three days before removing this nomination. Schwede66 04:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- At Sigur Plateau I noted that the abbreviated form of citations used does not enable the reader to identify the citation. Is this an acceptable "review"? Usually I simply edit the text of new articles for clarity, concision and accuracy, without adding any little tags.--Wetman (talk) 05:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've put a note on Wetman's talk page that the review is required for this nomination to proceed. So please give two or three days before removing this nomination. Schwede66 04:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- To cut to the chase, the age and length are good but the hook isn't cited. It may seem a bit of a niggle, but I'm also slightly perplexed that this abandons the "Did you know that...?" format. Can we do that? Moonraker2 (talk) 05:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 27
Gerald Cuthbert
- ... that General Gerald Cuthbert (pictured), a British Army commander of the First World War, was nicknamed "Bluebell" by his subordinates?
- Reviewed: The Red Rover
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- date, length, fact, image, etc all fine. BencherliteTalk 07:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Campanula robinsiae & Cardamine micranthera
- ... that when they were listed as endangered in the United States in 1989, there were only three small populations of Brooksville bellflower and only four tiny populations of small-anthered bittercress known to exist?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Alexis Nour
- ... that World War I journalist Alexis Nour expected an alliance with the Central Powers would bring Romania possession of Bessarabia, Odessa and a colonial empire?
- Comment: The article existed under a wrong name, I moved it and expanded it on Jan. 27. I'm not sure if that expansion was a 5x; in case it wasn't, I'll withdraw the nom here.
5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Eddington, Kent. Dahn (talk) 11:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
South African Class 11 2-8-2
- ... that the Class 11 (example pictured) was the only type of standard gauge 2-8-2 locomotive built in quantity for South African Railways?
- Comment: Non-self-nom
Created by Andre Kritzinger (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:23, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Southampton Castle
- ... that Southampton Castle was equipped with its first cannon in as early as 1382, making it one of the first castles in medieval England to be so armed?
Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 01:19, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- From page 253 in Pounds, 1990 (Ref.23):
- ...Gunpowder first became important in the 1360s, and castles were first equipped with small cannon during the first few years of peace following the Treaty of Bretigny (1360). ...
- ...In 1379 the keeper of Carisbrooke purchased two cannon and ... Three years later a cannon was purchased for Southampton Castle,...
- I take that three years after 1379 would be 1382. --PFHLai (talk) 11:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- From page 253 in Pounds, 1990 (Ref.23):
- Hmmm... now I see another sentence on the same page, following immediately the first quote above:
- ...In 1365 cannon, fabricated in the Tower, were sent to Queenborough Castle and later to Dover, Carisbrooke and Southampton.
- So I am not sure if it was 1365 or 1382 now. Maybe the hook should be shortened with the year not specified.
- (alt.hook):... that Southampton Castle was one of the first castles in medieval England to be equipped with a cannon?
- Maybe we should check with the wikiarticle's author. --PFHLai (talk) 12:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd taken this from Pounds volume, as suggested above, which gives it as three years after 1379, i.e. 1382. This fits with the construction work at the castle from 1378 onwards; there was no substantial recorded work in the 1360s. The Historic Environmental Record also goes with the 1382 date. You'd be safe with the original hook. Hchc2009 (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm... now I see another sentence on the same page, following immediately the first quote above:
Weather buoy
- ... that automated weather buoys have been deployed to record weather information from the Earth's oceans since 1951?
- Reviewed: AGR-14 ZAP
5x expanded by Thegreatdr (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Flu Season (Parks and Recreation)
- ... that one reviewer declared Rob Lowe's (pictured) declaration "Stop...pooping!" in the Parks and Recreation episode "Flu Season" the "single greatest self-effacingly comic moment of his long, handsome career"?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Tried to think a bit outside the box on this one. :D Also, I have reviewed the DYK nom for Nagios Core. — Hunter Kahn 21:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Vinegar Hill Historic District
- ... that the Vinegar Hill Historic District in Bloomington, Indiana is distinguished by its lawn furniture?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 18:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment I don't have time to review another article at the moment, but I'll get to it soon. If you review this article before I get a review done, please don't decline it simply because it's lacking a review. Nyttend (talk) 18:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)- Reviewed lunar lava tube, just below this nomination. Nyttend (talk) 00:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Lunar lava tube
- ... that Lunar lava tubes could provide natural shelters for manned lunar habitats?
- Comment: Non-self-nom
Created by RJHall (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 06:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
David Kato
- ... that the presiding pastor at the funeral for murdered gay rights activist David Kato denounced homosexuality, causing Kato's friends to storm the pulpit?
ALT1:... that recently-murdered gay rights activist David Kato was awarded 1.5 million Ugandan shillings in damages from the tabloid Rolling Stone, after it published photos of him and other gays and lesbians under the headline "Hang Them"?- Reviewed: Sexy Cora ([26])
- Comment: I have nominated as authors all editors who contributed more than about 2000 bytes to this article.
As for the review, I contributed to the evaluation of the recently rejected Sexy Cora nomination, diff shows the discussion just prior to the nomination being removed from T:TDYK. I can do another review if this is considered an insufficient contribution.
Created by RayneVanDunem (talk), Orrin Knox (talk), Roscelese (talk), and Toussaint (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 05:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm not sure I'm allowed to review the nomination, since you've (very kindly!) named me as a major contributor, but I'm going to make a slight alteration to the first hook for the sake of good writing. (I prefer the second hook, as it focuses more on Kato himself.) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 08:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- That change is fine, but as the ALT1 I proposed is too long, here are some alternatives:
ALT2:... that tabloid Rolling Stone paid gay rights activist David Kato 1.5 million Ugandan shillings in damages after it published photos of him and other gays and lesbians under the headline "Hang Them"?- ALT3:... that Ugandan tabloid Rolling Stone published photos and addresses of gay rights activist David Kato and other gays and lesbians under the headline "Hang Them"?
- Comment - regarding ALT2, the sources don't indicate that Kato was actually paid the 1.5 million and tend to imply that the publishers planned to refuse to pay so saying that he was paid is probably not accurate. Orrin Knox (talk) 17:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4:... that after tabloid Rolling Stone published photos and addresses of 100 gays and lesbians under the headline "Hang Them", gay rights activist David Kato was awarded USh1.5 million in damages?
Ngome Marian Shrine
- ... that ten visions of the Blessed Virgin Mary experienced by Sr. Reinolda May led to the establishment of Ngome Marian Shrine, a pilgrim's center in KwaZulu-Natal?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Gustav Gassner
- ... that that the German plant physiologist Gustav Gassner, whose 1931 book remains a popular reference, studied smut (pictured)?
Created/expanded by Sharktopus (talk), Smartse (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I will review one of the many other interesting items here in within a couple of hours. Sharktopustalk 17:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reviewed François Mingaud. Sharktopustalk 22:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)- I added pictured but in this instance the image kinda wrecks the hook. (I'm not reviewing this btw, since I suggested the hook to Sharktopus). SmartSE (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm, rethinking including the picture in the DYK. Searching Commons for "smut" turned up some very interesting images but probably many not suitable for first page.Sharktopustalk 22:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Does in have to say "pictured" if it has a picture? Couldn't the relationship of the picture to the hook be left a tantalizing mystery? Sharktopustalk 00:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- One option would be to just do it without the image, but tricking readers is generally left for April Fool's Day (see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Why not run this hook on April Fool's Day, itself? (And I almost typed "AFD" there before going "whoops!" ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 19:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- One option would be to just do it without the image, but tricking readers is generally left for April Fool's Day (see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I added pictured but in this instance the image kinda wrecks the hook. (I'm not reviewing this btw, since I suggested the hook to Sharktopus). SmartSE (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- How about something like:
- ALT1: ... that German plant physiologist Gustav Gassner, whose 1931 book on edible plants (corn ear pictured) remains a popular reference, studied smut?
- I have changed the rollover text for the image to remove the word "smut". A wording like this retains the "(pictured)" but links it to the book. EdChem (talk) 03:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would be super-honored to have this DYK used on April Fools Day, but I think EdChem's solution is so brilliant it deserves public airing, so let's go with that. If anybody, somebody, would review the article, that is? Sharktopustalk 19:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Sharktopus - "so brilliant" is not something I often associate with one of my ideas. As a second thought, you could add the word "also" before "studied" (i.e. "... also studied smut"), or perhaps go for something like "... was an expert on smut". Perhaps these are too much misdirection, but I like making the hook as hooky as possible and I think the present hook can be hookier. By the way, no need to worry about the reviewing as someone will get to it eventually. :) EdChem (talk) 21:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would be super-honored to have this DYK used on April Fools Day, but I think EdChem's solution is so brilliant it deserves public airing, so let's go with that. If anybody, somebody, would review the article, that is? Sharktopustalk 19:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
François Mingaud
- ... that billiards player François Mingaud (pictured) is credited with inventing the leather cue tip while imprisoned in the Bastille?
- ALT1: ... that billiards player François Mingaud invented the leather cue tip, perfected backspin, then persuaded an audience that the balls were "tormented by a devil"?
- Reviewed: Chris Marcus
Created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 11:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good article with choice of two good hooks! Checked length, citation style, hook citation, hook length. GTG, with whichever hook Chienlit wants, I slightly prefer the second. Sharktopustalk 22:04, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Chris Marcus
- ... that even though Chris Marcus was seven feet tall in high school, it took convincing from the school's basketball coach for him to play for the team?
- Reviewed: R.D. Whitehead Monument
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date length and source verified. Added coach name to body, added hook to intro. Chienlit (talk) 12:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
National Terrorism Advisory System
- ... that this April, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's new two-tier National Terrorism Advisory System will replace the current color-coded Homeland Security Advisory System?
Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 02:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cornelius XBG-3. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Date length and source verified. You may want to add the word "new" before two-tier. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Tourism in Alderney
- ... that the railway in Alderney is the only working railway in the Channel Islands, and draws a number of visitors to the island every year?
- Reviewed: Richard Lane (barrister) ([27])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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- the neutrality of the comment "Alderney does not attract a large number of tourists every year - as such, the offering of tourist attractions is limited when compared to mainland destinations" which does not appear directly sourced.
- the later tourist statistics which look official but are sourced to an unofficial site submarine.gg, which is owned by Submarine Ltd rather than the tourist office or a peer reviewed source.
- the citation for the railway being the only working railway should be a direct link and at the moment goes to a sub-page of http://www.visitalderney.com that does not make the statement that it is the only working railway.
- If these are fixed I think the article should be ready to go. Fæ (talk) 11:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Tourism in Åland
- ... that a major attraction for tourists in Åland is the islands' having more sunshine hours per year than anywhere else in Scandinavia?
- Reviewed: The Best American Magazine Writing 2007 ([28])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Three of the four sources go to Visit Aland, which is pretty much a primary source, since it is "Åland's official tourist and member organisation". And the final source is just an Excel spreadsheet with statistics on it. While i'm sure that the subject is notable, I am pretty much considering the article to be unreferenced at this point. If you wish for this DYK to go through, please find actual reliable sources on the subject. SilverserenC 01:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting argument, although that page comes from the government of the Åland Islands - and the final source comes from the official statistics office of the government of the Åland Islands. The day we start regarding government statistics as unreliable is the day I retire from Wikipedia :D Arctic Night 02:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think i'm going to need someone else to give a second opinion on this then, since, yes, it is from a government website, but i'm not sure what the rules are for an article sourced entirely to primary sources. Primary sources are allowed, obviously, but I thought there had to also be secondary coverage involved. I'll ask on the DYK talk page for some answers on that. SilverserenC 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Since we're now discarding sources published by the Government of the Åland Islands as 'unreliable', I have gone ahead and added some secondary sources to the article - in fact, almost all of the statements on the article now have a secondary source supporting it. These include books, non-government web sites, etc. Arctic Night 17:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The Best American Magazine Writing 2007
- ... that the American Society of Magazine Editors book The Best American Magazine Writing 2007 features investigative journalism about the Beslan school hostage crisis, survivors of Agent Orange, and a profile of climber Reinhold Messner?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I reviewed the DYK entry for Walter Baetke. -- Cirt (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the American Society of Magazine Editors book The Best American Magazine Writing 2007 features investigative journalism about the Beslan school hostage crisis and survivors of Agent Orange?
16th National Television Awards
- ... that Ant & Dec have won the 'Most Popular Entertainment Presenter' for the tenth year in a row at the 16th National Television Awards?
Created by TwentiethApril1986 (talk). Self nom at 00:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Creation date and hook verified. However, the article has only 792 characters of prose (needs at least 1500). - PM800 (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah right. I'm working on getting the prose characters up to at least 1500. I've just passed 1100. --Twentiethil1986 (talk) 01:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- [Update] There should be at least 1500 prose characters now.--Twentiethil1986 (talk) 01:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Tourism in Abkhazia
- ... that despite it being illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government, the territory's Black Sea beaches continue to attract tourists?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Great article, interesting--but that hook, I think, needs better sourcing. This article has 1992-1993 numbers (just over 200,000) and the claim that tourism now is almost back to normal. This article does make the 300,000 claim, but that's hardly a reliable source (and it's in terrible English, also not a confidence booster). I don't think that the 300,000 number is verifiably certain at all, and would propose tweaking or changing the hook. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Besides, it would be nice for the hook to clarify that it is illegal under the laws of Georgia (a country that has no de facto authority in Abkhazia) for foreigners to enter the country, not under the laws of Abkhazia. Ucucha 02:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've added 'technically', although since de jure Georgia does have sovereignty over Abkhazia, I don't think any further elaboration is necessary. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the governments of Abkhazia and Russia would disagree that it is even "technically" illegal; they'll say that Georgia has no business at all prohibiting people from Abkhazia. Besides, it's not illegal even under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia, as long as the Georgian government is informed. Ucucha 03:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Heh, let's not turn this into a debate over who has the right to control Abkhazia! I've clarified the wording of the hook to leave no doubt that it's under Georgian law under certain circumstances. Arctic Night 03:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't want to debate that either; my point is that such a debate is possible and bypassing the issue is not neutral. I have no problems with the new wording of the hook. Ucucha 12:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Cornelius XBG-3
- ... that the Cornelius XBG-3 "bomb glider", an early guided missile designed in 1942, would have used a forward-swept wing?
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Tomb of Khai Dinh
- ... that to fund the construction of his lavish tomb, Vietnamese Emperor Khải Định raised taxes by 30 per cent?
- Reviewed: Sokolov's Dwarf Hamster ([30])
5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Sokolov's Dwarf Hamster
- ... that young Sokolov's Dwarf Hamsters are born with a dark stripe down their back that fades with age?
- Reviewed: George Washington (Park)
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook check out. However, I would suggest that the nominator take a closer look at the spelling used in the article... I nearly threw up the fifth time I saw the word 'its' (context: "its feet") spelled with an apostrophe... Arctic Night 23:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I found some more. Not good. Anyway, article is on a rodent and I see Ucucha's model for rodents on Wikipedia has been correctly used. It is indeed expanded more than five times, but at some 1800 characters it's really short, in my opinion. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I tried to find additional exciting information about this critter but to no avail. I hope that they name a more exciting rat for me. The source is not accessible to me, but I'll take it on good faith--and if it turns out to be an elaborate hoax to draw attention to this totally prosaic rat, then more power to you. Article is good to go. Drmies (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Buttrills
- ... that in the early twentieth century, Buttrills was the centre of education in Barry, Vale of Glamorgan, Wales?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Here I Stand (Usher song).♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
WOLD-FM
- ... that WOLD-FM in Marion, Virginia, signed on almost exactly six years before "W*O*L*D", Harry Chapin's song about a fictional FM station in Boise, Idaho, peaked on the Billboard Hot 100?
5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year (diff)
- Date, hook and length check out. Offline source (yearbook) accepted, AGF. Arctic Night 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Presuming this goes on the main page before yet-to-be-reviewed WGRQ, this will be my 100th article to make DYK. - Dravecky (talk) 15:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Given that you are such a regular, Dravecky, I thought I'd point out that we don't promote stubs through DYK. This one is certainly start class, so you could (and should) remove stub tags as part of the DYK nomination process. And congrats to your # 100! Schwede66 04:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Congrats on #100 from me as well. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Silver Star Holidays
- ... that the November 2010 sale by Silver Star Holidays of its local bus routes around Caernarfon ended nearly ninety years of bus service operation by the company?
Created by Alzarian16 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Harewood Park above. Alzarian16 (talk) 20:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything has been verified. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
R.D. Whitehead Monument
- ... that the R.D. Whitehead Monument is situated where a popular watering trough used to be?
ALT 1:
- ... that the R.D. Whitehead Monument is situated where a popular Milwaukee watering trough used to be?
Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 20:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Reviewed Cape Moreton Light
- Length and date ok. Taking it in good faith that the offline source is accurate since it is a book. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- It seems to me that the hook is too sketchy to cause one to view the article. Surely another half-line could tell the reader more. Even saying where the monument is located in the hook might help. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've added in the location; is that what you were getting at? I'm not exactly sure what would make this less "sketchy"... :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 13:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nine to the Universe
- ... that the collection of jams Nine to the Universe suggests that in his final years Jimi Hendrix was moving toward jazz?
5x expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'm at 5x. Also, the hook borrows heavily from a printed source (reference and direct quote given in text); tweaks or alternates are appreciated if that's not OK. An ALT hook could contain something about the record never being re-released, which is an affront to humanity of course. Drmies (talk) 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out, but did you review an article for DYK before nominating this article? If so, this needs to be stated at the time of nomination. Arctic Night 03:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hit "Ctrl+F" and search for "Drmies" on this page--you should find plenty of hits. ;) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Eamonn Mansfield
- ... that Eamonn Mansfield resigned from the Irish Free State Senate five days after he was elected?
- Reviewed: Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum ([31])
- Comment: The five-day-period is not explicitly stated but the dates of election and resignation are stated in the same paragraph with separate references.
Created by Jnestorius (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- It seems the internet broke somewhere between Ireland and here. But length, date, and hook are alright. The article is clean and organized, and I've checked the sources I could access. Printed sources I'll take on good faith--if someone could do a quick check on those dates, we're good to go. Thanks Jnestorius. Drmies (talk) 21:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Someone fixed the internet; all is well with the world. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Krzykawka
- ... that Polish and Italian prisoners taken by the Russians after the Battle of Krzykawka were deported to Siberia?
Created by Volunteer Marek (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:07, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Gris-gris
All checks out. Much better than the Polish Wikipedia article which inspired it! Moonraker2 (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Gris-gris
5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, expansion, size check out. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've removed the apostrophe from 1980's in the hook, per WP:DECADE. I haven't checked the article for this... jnestorius(talk) 18:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but there is a problem here: the source does not support the hook at all. The article says that in one study over 60% of women in Senegal reported knowledge of three traditional methods of birth control, of which the gris-gris was one--it said nothing about usage or popularity. An ALT-hook could be "... that in the 1980s, women in Senegal had more knowledge of Gris-gris, an amulet also used as birth control, than of non-traditional forms of birth control such as the pill?" I've made some other edits, for awkward phrasing and wikilinks, and expanded the lead a little bit. In other words, I propose this ALT hook (is it too long?), and if that is accepted it should be good to go. Drmies (talk) 19:49, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- My bad! I've updated the article to reflect the correct information. Instead, why don't we have as an ALT: ... that according to a 1982 survey, Gris-gris were one of the top-three forms of birth control known to women in Senegal? All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 19:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Cape Moreton Light
- ... that Cape Moreton Light (pictured), an active lighthouse on Cape Moreton, Moreton Island, Queensland, is both the oldest in Queensland and the only one built of stone?
- Comment: Reviewed Mia Skäringer
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Size, date, and ref are all great. :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 20:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
St Peter's Church, South Somercotes
- ... that St Peter's Church, South Somercotes, Lincolnshire, (pictured) has been called "The Queen of the Marsh"?
- Reviewed: Zahra's Paradise
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go, but greenstone in the article is a dablink and I wasn't sure what the best fix was. BencherliteTalk 01:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's Greenschist. Fixed. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:48, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle)
- ... that the main protagonist from the manga series Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Syaoran, ends up becoming one of the series' main antagonists?
Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
George Washington (Park)
- ... that the statue George Washington by Richard Henry Park was the first public monument in Milwaukee?
Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I made copyedits (pipe link) and a small addition (name) to the hook. Drmies (talk) 21:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- both issues fixed ... athough 2 is thin .... its perfectly adequate Victuallers (talk) 15:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 28
Stag's Leap Wine Cellars
- ... that a bottle of 1973 Stag's Leap Wine Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon is kept at the Smithsonian to commemorate its role in American wine history for winning the 1976 Judgment of Paris wine tasting?
- Comment: Refs in the Judgment of Paris and subsequent competitions section with FN#12 for the Smithsonian presence and FN#1 and FN#13 explaining the historical context of why it is there.
5x expanded by Camw (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 03:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Cirrus cloud
- ... that cirrus clouds (pictured with a fire rainbow) cover an average of 20% to 25% of the earth's surface at any time and can produce glories, fire rainbows, and sundogs?
5x expanded by Reaper Eternal (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note - I can crop this if necessary. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Changed picture to a better one. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed St Twrog's Church, Bodwrog. Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Is it allowable for this to be the pictured DYK? Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Note - I can crop this if necessary. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Carex lutea
- ... that Carex lutea, an endangered species of sedge endemic to North Carolina, is
anthreatened by fire suppression efforts in the area?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, refs look fine. But the hook reads difficult to me, not familiar with the subject (what is sedge endemic?), also seems to have an extra "an", and "in the area" looks rather obvious, reducing the drama. Suggestion:
- ALT1: ... that the endangered species of sedge Carex lutea, endemic to North Carolina, is threatened by fire suppression efforts? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now i see the clumsiness in my hook. Thanks. Your ALT1 is fine. How about :
- ALT2: ... that Carex lutea, an endangered species of sedge that is endemic to North Carolina, is threatened by fire suppression efforts?
- --PFHLai (talk) 03:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now i see the clumsiness in my hook. Thanks. Your ALT1 is fine. How about :
Long-tailed Finch
- ... that a male Long-tailed Finch is unable to tell the sex of an unfamiliar Long-tailed Finch on sight alone?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Snowmanradio (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: spermalege
- Looks OK to me. I'd have thought that most birds that lack sexuual dimorphism might have the same problem, but there was a study on it, so... Good to go. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Farman Sport
- ... that when a Farman Sport was modified in 1926 with a short, broad parasol wing, it gained the nickname "the Flying Postcard"?
Created/expanded by TSRL (talk). Self nom at 11:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Tell Bazmusian - TSRL
- Looks good from here. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Megamaser
- ... that OH megamasers were used to make the first detection of Zeeman splitting in a galaxy other than the Milky Way?
5x expanded by James McBride (talk). Self nom at 09:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date checks out and hook ref acceptable in good faith, but expansion ratio of the prose is 3.8x. KimChee (talk) 11:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I measure the expansion as 18130 ÷ 4208 = 4.31
For a ×5 expansion, a further 5 × 4208 − 18130 = 2910 characters is required.
For the record, the current expansion is very impressive, having added almost 14000 characters. FYI, some reviewers may be willing to accept (say) a 4.5 times expansion as close enough given the size of the article. EdChem (talk) 12:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Right you are. Do you know if DYK check might have counted the prose saying the "cite doi" tag would fill in the references soon? When I ran the DYK check a couple of days ago, I am almost positive it said it had been 5X expanded, and now it does not. I'd like to try to avoid making the same mistake in the future. As for this nomination, I'll see about expanding further, but I may have to withdraw the nomination in a couple of days. Thanks for taking a look at it. James McBride (talk) 18:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The DYK check says the article is at 5X now (though only barely, I think). Some of that expansion was obtained cheaply, I must admit. I noticed as I added content that I switched back and forth between giving names of molecules (hydroxyl, methine, etc.) and their chemical formulae (OH, CH, etc.), so I made it consistently the molecule name. James McBride (talk) 01:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Verified. I ran a manual cut-and-paste character count this time to be sure. After omitting headers as well as bulletpoint lists from the version prior to expansion (13 September 2009), the character count was down to 4012. The current version is up to 21121. That makes the expansion ratio 5.26. Hook ref has also been verified, so everything checks out. KimChee (talk) 05:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
William Charles Osman Hill
- ... that the foremost authority on primate anatomy during the 20th century, William Charles Osman Hill, enjoyed drugstore ice cream and gardening with his wife, Yvonne?
- Reviewed: Repertoire of contention
Created by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Right there in the PDF. A nice, human hook. Staxringold talkcontribs 07:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Erfreute Zeit im neuen Bunde, BWV 83
- ... that the canticle of Simeon (pictured) is part of Bach's cantata Erfreute Zeit im neuen Bunde, BWV 83, first performed on 2 February 1724 for the Feast of the Purification of Mary?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- for 2 February, day of the cantata's first performance --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Primitive Hall --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reworded hook slightly (Simeon, not the canticle, is pictured). BencherliteTalk 12:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Clyde Mayes
- ... that Clyde Mayes was the star player on the 1974–75 Furman Paladins men's basketball team, which was later named the greatest team in school history according to the editors of ESPN College Basketball Encyclopedia: The Complete History of the Men's Game?
- Reviewed: Costa Grande of Guerrero
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1: ... that Clyde Mayes played on four different NBA teams in just two seasons before leaving to pursue his professional basketball career in Europe?
Tell Bazmusian
- ... that the archaeological site of Tell Bazmusian in Iraq was flooded by Lake Dukan?
}}:*Reviewed: Marden Airfield Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
St Deiniol's Church, Llanddaniel Fab
- ... that the first church built on the site of St Deiniol's Church, Llanddaniel Fab, Wales (pictured), is said to have been established by St Deiniol Fab himself in 616?
- Reviewed: St Peter's Church, South Somercotes ([32])
Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 20:59, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, image, and hook ref all verified. Hook slightly reworded for clarity. KimChee (talk) 06:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. BencherliteTalk 06:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Marden Airfield
- ... that while attempting to land at Marden Airfield, a French biplane carrying oysters crashed into a hedge?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 13:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Will review one later, before 9 PM EST. :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 13:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reviewed Tourism in Nunavut :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 19:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Here I Stand (Usher song)
- ... that "Here I Stand", a song by Usher (pictured right), was compared to the work of Stevie Wonder (pictured left), and was nominated for a Grammy Award?
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 10:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Tomb of Khai Dinh [33]
Length, date and hoook (two different sources) verified. Should be good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Land Question
- ... that as part of the ongoing Land Question saga in Prince Edward Island, British troops were called in to enforce rent payments after an agreement by tenants not to pay them in 1864?
- Reviewed: Nine to the Universe ([34])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- - Verified, article length fine, good to go.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Richard Lane (barrister)
- ... that for most of Sir Richard Lane's time as Lord Keeper of the Great Seal there was no Great Seal?
- Reviewed: Battle of Krzykawka
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Constantine Dalassenos (duke of Antioch)
- ... that the Byzantine general Constantine Dalassenos came twice close to ascending the throne and marrying the porphyrogenita Zoe, but was rejected in favour of less independent-minded candidates?
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- - Did you review another article before nominating this one? The new DYK rules suggest that you "indicate at your nomination which nomination you have reviewed and provide a link to the diff for your review," so if you have reviewed an article, I suggest you let us know which one it was. Arctic Night 01:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Erm, the DYK rules say that I can put my DYK nom here, and then I have to review another one. I didn't have time to do so immediately. Anyhow, I have reviewed Battle of Grochowiska. Constantine ✍ 09:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Spermalege
- ... that, in female bedbugs, the spermalege reduces the wounding costs caused by a male's needle-like penis?
5x expanded by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ed Freed
Note: I made a minor change to my hook; the sources suggest that "costs" of wounding are reduced, rather than the level of damage. Reviewers will find these links helpful. Ackatsis (talk) 04:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
much of it is an offline paper, but other bits look ok. Good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Ashley Library, Thomas James Wise
- ... that 90 documents stolen from the British Museum library were discovered in the Ashley Library of Thomas James Wise (pictured) after it was sold to the same Museum?
- Reviewed: Tourism in Alderney diff
Created/expanded by Fæ (talk). Self nom at 13:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- made into a double nom - ideally reviewer needs access to Times online Victuallers (talk) 16:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Interlok
- ... that the Malay novel Interlok which was originally withdrawn from the syllabus for the subject of Malay literature in Malaysian schools because its contents were deemed too offensive towards Malaysian Indians will be reinstated after parts deemed offensive are amended?
Created by Kawaputra (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006 (diff link)
Railroad industry in Syracuse, New York
- ... that the Railroad industry in Syracuse, New York (pictured) got its start in 1831 when a convention was held to stimulate construction which ultimately brought railroad service to New York State?
Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Self nom at 9:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Fails to quality only because it was not submitted within the 5 day window for a new article--created on Jan 21, submitted on Jan 28. Otherwise it would have qualified. Nice article. --Mike Cline (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Additional rule D9 allows for slightly later-than-five-days submission, so it's good on that count. However, there are a considerable number of unreferenced paragraphs in the article, which need to be addressed before this can be approved for DYK. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Lester S. Willson
- X ... that in August 1870, Bozeman merchant Lester S. Willson and his wife Emma entertained the civilian members of the Washburn–Langford–Doane Expedition for dinner in their home on the evening before the expedition left Bozeman, Montana on their historic exploration of Yellowstone?
- Reviewed: Railroad industry in Syracuse, New York
Created by Mike Cline (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Original hook, at 278 characters, is over the 200 limit. Suggesting ALT1, which is 199. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Bozeman merchant Lester S. Willson and his wife Emma entertained civilian members of the Washburn–Langford–Doane Expedition in their home (pictured) on the evening before they left to explore Yellowstone?
- Comment: Sounds accurate to me. --Mike Cline (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 29
Menggu Ziyun
- ... that Menggu Ziyun is a 14th century rime dictionary of Chinese as written in the 'Phags-pa script?
- Reviewed: Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede
Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
1968 Gator Bowl
- ... that the University of Alabama's Crimson Tide football team lost their first appearance in the Gator Bowl, in 1968?
- Comment: Non-self-nom
Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 23:19, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nimm, was dein ist, und gehe hin, BWV 144
- ... that Bach's cantata for Septuagesimae 1724, Nimm, was dein ist, und gehe hin, BWV 144, is based on the Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard (pictured)?
Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- suggested for 6 February, date of the first performance. Reviewed: #Carex lutea --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- perhaps even better on 20 February, Septugesima of 2011, because Easter is so late. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Carex specuicola
- ... that the habitat of the rare Navajo sedge is limited to the shady side of steep, often vertical, cliffs of red Navajo Sandstone of the Colorado Plateau at elevations between 5700 and 6000 feet?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Catesbaea melanocarpa
- ... that the original specimen of the rare Carribean plant tropical lilythorn was destroyed when Berlin was bombed during World War II?
- ALT1:... that the tropical lilythorn became more difficult to locate after Hurricane Hugo struck the Carribean in 1989?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Castilleja levisecta
- ... that golden paintbrushes (pictured) in the Pacific Northwest grow better as a result of periodic wildfires?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Spanish ship San Ildefonso
- ... that the 145 m2 (1,560 sq ft) naval ensign from the Spanish 74-gun ship San Ildefonso was hung in St Paul's Cathedral during the funeral of Lord Nelson?
Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 13:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have reviewed Dunhuang Go Manual [35] - Dumelow (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article created on 23 January, and not expanded 5x since, so fail on that account (should have been nominated as a new article on 23 January). Length, ref and hook check out good. Arsenikk (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Additional rule D9 applies. Good to go. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps I should've mentioned this at nomination (been a while since I was really active at DYK) but I only moved this to mainspace on 29 Jan. Prior to that it was worked on in userspace (as can be seen in the history). It used to be that an article was counted as "new" from the time it was moved to mainspace, has this changed? - Dumelow (talk) 08:24, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, seems we both missed that, sorry. I'll move it back! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Ralph Crosthwaite
- ... that Ralph Crosthwaite never played in the NBA due to personal reasons, despite being drafted by the Detroit Pistons and Boston Celtics?
- Reviewed: Jamar Butler
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
HMS Achilles (1905)
- ... that the British armoured cruiser HMS Achilles and the armed boarding steamer Dundee sank the German auxiliary cruiser Leopard in 1917 as it attempted to break through a British blockade?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Piper LBP, Taylorcraft LBT--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Reference for the hook accepted on good faith. Nick-D (talk) 05:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Tweaked the hook. Just a note, you might want to clarify in the article about the nature of the blockade. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Wolfenstein 1D
- ... that Wolfenstein 1D is a video game mod based on Wolfenstein 3D and features the same main character and plot, but all objects are represented as one-dimensional pixels in a single line?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Tourism in Åland. SilverserenC 01:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- . Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 02:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Progress M-09M
- ... that the Progress M-09M spacecraft, which is on its way to resupply the International Space Station, is carrying a birthday present for station commander Scott J. Kelly?
Created by GW Simulations (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 22:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System. :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 22:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Clymer Wright
- ... that in 1991, the Texas political activist Clymer Wright led the successful initiative to establish term limits on municipal officials in Houston?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed R.D. Whitehead Monument
- Lenght is nice, hook is verified, article is well sourced. Everything looks OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
AGR-14 ZAP
- ... that the AGR-14 ZAP rocket (launchers pictured on A-4) would have used flechettes to destroy anti-aircraft guns?
- Reviewed: Farman Sport
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Confirmed that its length its appropriate and that the comment is sourced. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Added PD pic. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
No. 29 Squadron RAAF
- ... that the Royal Australian Air Force's No. 29 Squadron (HQ pictured) is headquartered in Hobart, Tasmania, despite the absence of RAAF bases or aircraft in the state?
- Comment: Non-self-nom
5x expanded by Nick-D (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 19:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length, history and sources verified. Hook reworded to be less awkward. Daniel Case (talk) 02:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Piper LBP, Taylorcraft LBT
- ... that the Piper LBP (pictured) and Taylorcraft LBT were both developed during World War Two in response to a U.S. Navy requirement for a "Glomb", an unmanned glider bomb?
- Reviewed: Long-tailed Finch
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- --Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nagios Core
- ... that Nagios Core is a open source computer system and network monitoring software application?
Created by Nagiosinc (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 16:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date checks out (I fixed the creation/nomination credit),
but the phrase "popular" is a bit subjective and lacks a source. Would suggest you find a source specifically saying this or, better yet, perhaps try a different hook.Also, much of the article is an unsourced list, which I believe should be changed to sourced and cited prose paragraphs. — Hunter Kahn 21:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The "popular" part is changed.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date checks out (I fixed the creation/nomination credit),
Bryan Fairfax
- ... that the Australian-born conductor Bryan Fairfax led the Polyphonia Orchestra in the first British performance of Sergei Rachmaninoff's Symphony No. 1 in D minor in 1964?
--BabbaQ (talk) 15:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Seems fine, easily long enough and the ref is ok. I'd get rid of the bit about the Polyphonia Orchestra - it's not notable (there's no link in the article to it, and it's the least interesting part of the hook too). Malick78 (talk) 16:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System
- ... that the Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System is a proposed mass transit system for the City of Cebu located within the greater Cebu Metropolitan area in the Philippines?
- ALT1: that the Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System is a proposed mass transit system that is to be able to cope with bus traffic in speeds of 25 km/hr with a peak frequency of 105 buses per hour on the core route?
- ALT2: that the World Bank is supporting the scheme for the Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System in Philippines financially and technically through its Clean Technology Fund?
--BabbaQ (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The hook isn't very interesting, nor is it surprising. Is there anything else that could be used instead? :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 22:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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- That info isn't referenced in the article. If it is part of one of the references already used in the article, then please mark which one. :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 23:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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- That's good enough - Alt 2 it is. I fixed a small spacing thing, ans though not directly shown in the article, this info is referenced in ref 6. :.:∙:∙∙:∙:.:|pepper|:.:∙:∙∙:∙:.: 13:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Caffo, St Caffo's Church, Llangaffo
- ... that St Caffo's Church, Llangaffo, Wales (pictured), commemorates St Caffo who was martyred in the area in the 6th century?
- Reviewed: Florida v. Thomas ([36])
Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Fort Henry Bridge
- ... that the Wheeling Suspension Bridge is still open to traffic, despite U.S. Route 40 being diverted to the nearby Fort Henry Bridge (pictured) after it was completed in 1956?
- Reviewed: Pratt-Read LBE ([37])
5x expanded by Admrboltz (talk). Self nom at 04:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Pratt-Read LBE
- ... that the Pratt-Read LBE glider bomb (pictured) was intended to be guided by television signals and radio control?
- Reviewed: Railroad industry in Syracuse, New York
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
List of Pittsburgh Pirates first-round draft picks
- ... that Pittsburgh Pirates' first-round draft pick Barry Bonds (pictured) went on to set Major League Baseball records for most MVP awards (7), most home runs in a single season (73), and most career home runs (762)?
Created by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED: William Charles Osman Hill. Staxringold talkcontribs 07:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, and hook reference verified. James McBride (talk) 09:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Jamar Butler
- ... that Jamar Butler, who played basketball for the Ohio State Buckeyes, was named MVP of the 2008 Portsmouth Invitational Tournament?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 04:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Progress M-09M. Guoguo12--Talk-- 05:02, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 30
Way Kambas National Park
- ... that Way Kambas National Park in Indonesia hosts a breeding centre for the critically endangered Sumatran Rhinoceros (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Marojejy National Park
5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 12:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Marojejy National Park
- ... Marojejy National Park (pictured) contains the last remaining mountain scrub in Madagascar to be unaltered by fire?
5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Farman Moustique
- Comment: Originally replaced a stub with a translation from the French article, but discovered numerous copyright violations, so re-wrote and will continue to expand and enhance over the coming days. – VisionHolder « talk » 08:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ...that Marojejy National Park (pictured) is rich in biodiversity and home to one of the world's 25 most endangered primates, the silky sifaka?
Zahra Bahrami
- ... that the Dutch government froze all contacts with the Iranian regime following the execution of dual Dutch-Iranian citizen Zahra Bahrami on dubious drug trafficking charges?
Created by Eric Baer (talk). Nominated by Plot Spoiler (talk) at 03:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Pogonomyrmex californicus, Milton Levine
- ... that Milton Levine founded Uncle Milton's Toys, best known for its ant farm, with ants from the species Pogonomyrmex californicus?
- Reviewed: THUMS Islands
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
THUMS Islands
- ... that the THUMS Islands in California are camouflaged drilling rigs named in honor of NASA astronauts who died in accidents? Created by Tedder (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out alright! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Bill Harman
- ... that Bill Harman, who played in 15 losses for the Philadelphia Phillies in 1941, was the tallest catcher in Major League Baseball when he was signed?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nice work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Reviewed Carex specuicola, btw. — KV5 • Talk • 23:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Benjamin Morgan Harrod
- ... that Benjamin Morgan Harrod, the civil engineer who designed the New Orleans water and sewerage systems, had been a Union captive of the Battle of Vicksburg?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Ed Westcott
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Ed Westcott
- ... that before Ed Westcott photographed J. Robert Oppenheimer holding a cigarette (pictured), he gave the physicist money so he could buy cigarettes?
Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviews: Focusing on some of the older problematic nominations, I removed Fernald Hall from the page as failed [38], reviewed history of Club Oasis and marked it as failed [39], suggested alternate hook to resolve issue with The Dark Knight Rises [40] and fixed an apparent URL problem in that article [41]. --Orlady (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
ALT sugg. ... that before Ed Westcott photographed J. Robert Oppenheimer in 1946 holding a cigarette (pictured), he first had to give the physicist change to buy a pack of cigarettes?
Hook checks out with source. Can you find Westcott's date of birth? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking out the hook source. If I could find Westcott's birthdate, I would have included it in the article. Since he was 20 years old in December 1942, he probably was born in 1922, but an offline source mentions his being 13 in 1934, so he might have born in late 1921. --Orlady (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Sonuvagun -- I found his birthdate and added it to the article! --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking out the hook source. If I could find Westcott's birthdate, I would have included it in the article. Since he was 20 years old in December 1942, he probably was born in 1922, but an offline source mentions his being 13 in 1934, so he might have born in late 1921. --Orlady (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Sonuvagun -- I found his birthdate and added it to the article! --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Non-convexity (economics)
- ... that economists blame "market failures" (where supply and demand differ or where market equilibria are inefficient) on non-convexity?
Created by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- (These paragraphs were developed for the Shapley-Folkman lemma but the article was too long: Then these paragraphs were moved to the SF-lemma's talk page.)
- I reviewed nominations for my 5th to 7th DYK nominations (of articles started by David Eppstein, not by me), so I needn't report another review here, I believe. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 21:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Katherine O'Regan
- ... that in 1999, Katherine O'Regan came within 63 votes of keeping Winston Peters' party New Zealand First out of Parliament?
- Reviewed: Everlost (novel) (diff)
- Comment: The expansion was done in my userspace and once ready, pasted into the article. Hence, Adabow's contribution doesn't show in the revision history.
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Schwede66 (talk), Adabow (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Zeltnera namophila
- ... that the spring-loving centaury and other rare plants at the Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge are declining because of groundwater pumping?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- The pdf source is somehow not searchable. Try page 9. --PFHLai (talk) 14:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The Red Rover
- ... that James Fenimore Cooper's novel The Red Rover was adapted as a burlesque on the London stage in 1877 by Sir Francis Cowley Burnand?
Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: John Hines (Australian soldier)
- Looks good. Shimgray | talk | 23:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration
- ... that American rapper Jay-Z (pictured) has won the Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration four times since its conception in 2002?
5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 10:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
An inline citation for the claim in the hook would be nice. Stonemason89 (talk) 03:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Brian K. Zahra – [42]
St Twrog's Church, Bodwrog
- ... that the 15th-century church of St Twrog, Bodwrog, Wales (pictured), has some bull's head decorations, showing its link with a prominent local family of that time?
- Reviewed: Gerald Cuthbert diff
Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to me! Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Tietê Bus Terminal
- ... that the Tietê Bus Terminal in São Paulo, Brazil is the largest bus terminal in Latin America and the second largest in the world?
Created by Jsfouche (talk). Self nom at 07:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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- I have added some more information about the name and the gardens that surround the terminal. Thanks for the help! jsfouche ☽☾Talk 18:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- With this latest expansion, it should be adequate. Which script do you use to count? The one I am using indicates that there are over 1500 characters. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 20:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it's over 1500 char. However, DYK usually requires at least one citation per paragraph, and the "Operations", "Gardens", and "Additional services" sections are now uncited. (And I don't use a script to count, I use this site.) - PM800 (talk) 20:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oops! I forgot to add the references. I have done that now. Also, thanks for the info on the counting site. Also, thanks for all your help. This is my first DYK nomination. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 20:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have added some more information about the name and the gardens that surround the terminal. Thanks for the help! jsfouche ☽☾Talk 18:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Sigur Plateau
- ... that the Sigur Plateau is a wildlife corridor which is important for maintaining the genetic diversity of elephants (pictured) and tigers in South India?
Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I started review of Sunny South (clipper).-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Switched image_Marcus334 (Talk) 19:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- The abbreviated form of citations needs to be expanded so that the reader can identify them.--Wetman (talk) 05:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
John Hines (Australian soldier)
- ... that a photograph of Private John Hines with the German money and equipment he looted during the Battle of Polygon Wood in 1917 (pictured) is one of the best known Australian images of World War I?
Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 05:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've reviewed the nomination for HMS Achilles (1905) above Nick-D (talk) 05:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Source and hook good, Sadads (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Latin Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Album
- ... that American singer Christina Aguilera was awarded the Latin Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Album in 2001?
5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 02:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 02:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Wolfenstein 1D
- Do you mean that I have to add 636 characters? Or that the article was 636 and I have to expand it to 3180? Jaespinoza (talk) 08:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Sunny South (clipper)
- X ... that the Sunny South (also called Emanuela or Manuela), captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
Created by Djembayz (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sunny South (clipper) was not linked in hook. I fixed it
- First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Original hook, at 232 characters, is over the 200 limit. ALT1 is 198. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
- Thanks for help-- corrections are needed. Should have waited till the next day and looked it over! Chappelle is not available online but is a standard book. If you can work the name "Manuela" into the DYK, it seems to be the second most commonly found form.
- Corrected version: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest slaver sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?Djembayz (talk) 04:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
1973 DeKalb-Peachtree Airport Learjet 24 crash
- ... that, in 1973, a Learjet 24 crashed shortly after take-off from DeKalb-Peachtree Airport after striking birds which likely came from a landfill site adjacent to the runway?
- Reviewed: Castilleja levisecta
Created by Wackywace (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article is over eight times the minimum requirement for length, at 12K plus. The external link citation first listed basically covers the content of the article. The hard copy citations are taken on good faith, as they seem to be covered in linked text of copy. Citation form is acceptable. Hook is cited. All links in hook check out. I would say this article is GOOD TO GO.
- Georgejdorner (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Bobby Simpson
- ... that the fictional character Bobby Simpson from the soap opera Home and Away, was only allowed to marry after a real life shopping center filled with people approved?
- Reviewed Land Question.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ryan shell (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
2011 Dearborn mosque bombing plot
- ... that the man arrested in the parking lot of an American mosque with explosives in his car was a former commercial bush pilot in Indonesia?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration Stonemason89 (talk) 03:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 31
Casper the Commuting Cat, Casper (cat)
- ... that Casper the Commuting Cat is a book about the true story of a cat who was a regular bus commuter in Plymouth, England?
- Reviewed: South African Class 11 2-8-2 [43] and Cirrus cloud [44]
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 10:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
John David Duty
- ... that John David Duty is believed to be the first person to be executed in the United States with pentobarbital, which is commonly used for animal euthanasia?
Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 07:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: B&B Complex Fires [45]
Mary Jobe Akeley
- ... that Mount Jobe in Canada was renamed in honor of Mary Jobe Akeley to acknowledge her exploration efforts in the Rocky Mountains?
- Reviewed: Zeltnera namophila
- Comment: Can anybody help me find a photo of this person. There are a lot of photos on the web but I'm not sure of their copyright status. Thanx
Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 06:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Egyptian temple
- ... that Ancient Egyptian temples contain architectural elements that symbolize houses, hills, tombs, marshes, and guard towers?
Created by A. Parrot (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: 2011 Dearborn mosque bombing plot.
- AGF for offline hooks-- fantastic article, I love art history and it's a great read. The references weren't easy to find but they're all cited in separate spots. Good to go. Nomader (Talk) 06:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Summer Sports: Paradise Island
- ... that the instruction manual for the video game Summer Sports: Paradise Island was misprinted, leaving out instructions for four of the games?
- Reviewed: Egyptian temple ([46])
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
2 February, Feast of Purification of Mary
Bach's cantata first performed that day is nominated above, Template talk:Did you know#Erfreute Zeit im neuen Bunde, BWV 83, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
February 5 or 6
1960 NFL Championship Game
- ... that after Vince Lombardi's (statue pictured) only career playoff loss at the 1960 NFL Championship Game he led his Green Bay Packers to five titles in the next seven years, including both Super Bowl I and II?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: First Presbyterian Church (Batavia, New York) and Giurgiu–Ruse pipeline, among others. Alansohn (talk) 15:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT:... that Vince Lombardi, the namesake of the National Football League's Super Bowl trophy, had only a single playoff loss in his coaching career, at the 1960 NFL Championship Game?
- [And I would save this DYK for February 5th/6th, before the Super Bowl XLV kick-off.] --PFHLai (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Frankfurter Löwen
- ... that the now defunct Frankfurter Löwen, founded in 1977, were the first American football club to be formed in Germany and winner of the first two editions of the German Bowl?
Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Reviewed Rose de Freycinet (also listed under 12 January)
- Suggestion: Hold for the Super Bowl XLV kick-off on 6 February and have an American football-DYK? Calistemon (talk) 13:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
February 15
Saint Usuge Spaniel
... that the Saint Usuge Spaniel (pictured) was saved from extinction after World War II due to the work of a priest in the Bresse region of France?
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hook fact checks out and spot check of sources appears mostly ok - I am not certain ref 3 qualifies as a RS, but other sources support its claims. Image is fine, and I made a small change to the hook, noting that the breed was saved from extinction. Resolute 01:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks - removed ref 3 now, as thinking about it now, you're right. Miyagawa talk 10:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show. Miyagawa talk 23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- So moved to this special occasion holding area. --PFHLai (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show. Miyagawa talk 23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks - removed ref 3 now, as thinking about it now, you're right. Miyagawa talk 10:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Obo II
- ... that Ch. Obo II is considered to be the father of the modern American Cocker Spaniel?
- Reviewed: Hall XPTBH
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show. Miyagawa talk 23:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Looks okay for length, date, and hook, although I'm not crazy about the unfamiliar abbreviation "Ch." I've taken out the "in vitro" sentence since they weren't doing that sort of thing back in the 19th century AFAIK (I assume you mean that Chloe II was impregnated). "in transit" needs to be clarified; I'm guessing it means he was traveling across the Atlantic. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Moved to the special occasion holding area. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Feb. 28th
Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence
- ... that the Greeks living in southern Albania declared in 1914 the Independence (pictured) of Northern Epirus?
Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Lam Chiu Ying.Alexikoua (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Interesting and clear. Length and date verified. One source in German accepted in good faith. Good to go. Aridd (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
June 19
Rizal Day
- ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?
Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive [1][2] after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Halloween
Rhacophorus vampyrus
- ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?
Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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