User talk:Truthsort

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Truthsort! I am Marcus Aurelius Antoninus and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (talk) 22:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Mine

That article was already nominated. Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (talk) 22:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

oops sorry i did not see it. Truthsort (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Guardians of the Free Republics

On April 7, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Guardians of the Free Republics, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

Hey, I'm sorry, but I've declined your request for rollback, mainly because your last request was so recent and I don't see a large amount of vandalism reversion. I'd suggest you install Twinkle- it will revert quicker than undo, it enables you to semi-automatically warn vandals (with a complete index of warnings) and has a few other useful features. It also provides nice detailed edit summaries automatically which makes it a lot easier to see what you've done at a glance. If you install it and spend a bit of time on the recent changes, come and ask me directly on my talk page in a week, maybe 2, and I'll probably grant it. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Fighting

Hey, I noticed you're trying to revert vandalism but have been recently declined for rollback permission. As you are no doubt aware, vandalism is a major problem on Wikipedia, and we need all the help we can get keeping it off the site. Huggle is a powerful tool, but if you don't know what you're doing it's easy to do much more harm than good. If you don't yet have Twinkle, I highly recommend installing it. It has a "Revert Vandal" function that works basically the same as rollback but doesn't require permission. Use this tool to gain experience. To find vandalism more easily, try Lupin's Anti-Vandal tool. This tool automatically searches recent edits for certain words or phrases and then displays them. You can then go to the edit and revert it using Twinkle. For more information on vandalfighting, go to the Counter-Vandalism Unit page. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. Good luck, and welcome to the vandalfighter forces! --N419BH (talk) 19:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful comments. Truthsort (talk) 23:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

May 2010

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User talk:JCDenton2052 has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. JCDenton2052 (talk) 00:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Template was used appropriately. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 23:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

RE: June 2010

Please read the article discussion for reasons I deleted the post. Emperorubby (talk) 18:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Well down the line do not blank portions of an article without discussing it and reaching a general agreement. Truthsort (talk) 18:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Sharron Angle

Actually, up to twelve sources have been used for the most controversial issues. Seven sources are not too many, per past consensus. In any case, a long discussion on the talk page got to that consensus. So I reverted your edit. Bearian (talk) 16:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Please enable your e-mail

Please enable your e-mail. I have an important matter to discuss with you. --Deskana (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Pamela Geller

Re: your rv of my edit to the PM article. The material I included was perfectly appropriate and well-cited. As you are apparently a newcomer to Wikipedia, welcome. However, please acquaint yourself with Wikipedia rules and guidelines before making false accusations on people's talk pages, including mine. This is considered bad form. The material I added was indeed well-cited. Stating as I did that her accusations are "controversial", "false" or unsupported is demonstrably true, and your attempt to remove this context from the article is singularly unhelpful to the Wikipedia effort. I trust you will refrain from such attempts in the future. Thank you. Arjuna (talk) 04:54, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Careful, you're at 2RR already, and if you exceed you will be reported. You need to explain how my edit was "my personal analysis". It is self-evidently true that her statements are "controversial", and that the relevant statements mentioned in the article are "false". I am at 1RR and will revert your rv. I suggest we take this to the talk page to avoid an edit war. Arjuna (talk) 05:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, no it was not appropriate and was not well-cited. The MMfA source is just adding undue weight, especially given that MMfA criticism is already in the article. The Huffington Post source does not indicate false or unsupported comments and the other sources provided are primary sources. You see Arjuna it is all about WP:Verifiability. The brink for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. BTW, 3RR does not apply to removal of libelous and unsourced material that violates the policy on biographies of living persons. Truthsort (talk) 05:14, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Could both of you please take this to the talk page of Talk:Pamela Geller and stop the back and forth edit warring? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Viriditas, I already did. But thanks, I agree (obviously). Truthsort, I think you are misconstruing the nature of Wikipedia - not every sentence can, or should be cited - that is ridiculous and so surely you aren't suggesting that. As for BLP, I don't think you have much of a case there. Cheers, Arjuna (talk) 05:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Arujuna, I'm sure you have only the best intentions, but BLP's are treated a bit differently than regular articles, and every sentence in contention in such BLP's must be cited. I would help out, but I find that topic extremely distasteful. Viriditas (talk) 06:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Viriditas, me and the other user made two reverts, which does not violate 3RR (and even then I was just reverting content that was not verified.) Regardless, the discussion is on the talk page. Truthsort (talk) 00:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Geller

Hi, thanks for the message on my talk page. I appreciate that rather than speaking civilly to another editor, it's more fun to slap a BLP violation template on his talk page and treat him like a vandal. My edit was not a violation of BLP, and I invite you to bring it up at whatever forum will turn you on. Thirdly, you've been easily played by a [troll]. Cheers. — goethean ॐ 13:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Goethean, you are the local wikituggee. You think Wikpeidia and it's articles are your personal blog, and any one who edits and challenges you, is a "Joe Hazelton". Your long history of contentious, and tenuous editing speaks volumes for the kind of thug you are.

First off, Goethean, there is no Wikipedia policy or guideline that says you can't template the regulars, and yes your edit was a violation of BLP as you decided to wikify contentious material in the article. I also advised this ip address to take his differences to Goethean's talk page instead of mine. Truthsort (talk) 14:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

See history of Goeathean here...http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/integralcensorship.asp76.203.2.26 (talk) 14:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Please don't make unfounded accusations of other editors, linking off site will not help your case. Best, ValenShephard (talk) 20:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me? How about actually looking in this archive and actually reading the discussions before you just show up on my Wikipedia page and somehow suggest that my accusations are "unfounded". Truthsort (talk) 20:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that ValenShephard was replying to 76.203.2.26. — goethean ॐ 21:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm pretty sure he was talking to me given that I had just posted on a talk page discussion that he was in. Truthsort (talk) 22:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Koch article

I thought your edit to the David Koch article was a good one. The material you added was perfectly appropriate, and thanks! Arjuna (talk) 01:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Mansford RFA

Look at the time stamps closely, it was from almost two years ago. Secret ^account 18:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

As recently as this month, a user accused him of harrassment.[1] Nevertheless, this is a moot point because his adminship is successful.Truthsort (talk) 19:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Rand Paul

I placed in a news item that had four sources. I stand by all my edits, although some may have typos or be too trivial to remain. I agreed with the person who reverted my edit that, while sourced, it probably was too minor a news story to be kept in. Bearian (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, four unreliable sources... Truthsort (talk) 03:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but it gets better: the Rand campaign is trying to cover up dirty tricks, and they were caught red-handed. Are you a concern troll, or a wikilawyer? Bearian (talk) 22:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC

I am simply trying to help the Wikipedia project and not hurt it. The content you added was a violation of Wikipedia:BLP#Reliable_sources and WP:NOTNEWS. Truthsort (talk) 17:45, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit summaries

PLEASE use edit summaries, especially when editing BLPs. They will at least explain why you're removing sourced information. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 23:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Why all I'm trying to do is reduce the WP:QUOTEFARM that is all. Did you really have to note this on such a minor edit? Truthsort (talk) 00:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't consider this a minor edit. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 01:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

First off, "gay affair" should not be wikified to "homophobia", second off, I just removed a quote, and third, the source I provided should not have been removed simply for being a blog. There is no blanket ban on all blogs. Truthsort (talk) 15:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Coons

Hey thanks for putting my edit back in. I think your wording is much better than mine too so thanks for that as well. Dwightschrute1010 (talk) 22:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome :) Truthsort (talk) 22:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Talkback

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James O'Keefe

What was proven false about the 2006 Forum Controversy? Perhaps you could discuss this on his talk page? 12.69.130.210 (talk) 22:33, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Nir Rosen

Have you read WP:EL? Your recent addition of an external link to this article appears to break this particular rule. Please remove it. Tentontunic (talk) 01:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

How does it violate WP:EL? Truthsort (talk) 05:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

O'Donnell

"A Hill Hack Goes Prime-Time Wacko": Hardly a neutral source. And it gives no more detail on his life and career than what is already in the article. You added it simply because it was critical of O'Donnell. The "Baltimore Sun" source is a blog (replete with grammatical errors), not a reliable source. And the Irish Central source does not describe O'Donnell as "focusing a lot of his program on verbal attacks" on O'Reilly; you imposed your own POV interpretation. It's a matter of opinion that he has focused "a lot of is program on verbal attacks": your opinion. In short, you did a bit of POV-pushing, which is OK if most Wikipedians agree with you. So get consensus on the talk page before restoring. Cresix (talk) 00:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

"There are a bunch of sources that document O'Donnell criticizing O'Reilly. Given the brief time he has had in the new time slot, the fact that there are quite a few sources on it, indicate that he has used a good portion of his show criticizing him": First you haven't cited anything claiming that O'Donnell is "focusing a lot of his program on verbal attacks" on O'Reilly. And your finding "a bunch of sources" and then concluding that demonstrates an increase in O'Donnell's criticism of O'Reilly is synthesis of material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. You're not a newcomer; I don't plan to go back and forth with you over basic policies. Your edits have been challenged. The burden is now yours to either find sources explicitly stating that O'Donnell is "focusing a lot of his program on verbal attacks" on O'Reilly, or get a consensus. That's the way it works on Wikipedia. Have a good day. Cresix (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

"WP:SYN means taking two different things and combining them to reach a conclusion. That's not being done here": It's exactly what you're doing. Nowhere does a source explicitly state that O'Donnell has been "focusing a lot of his program on verbal attacks" on O'Reilly since the timeslot changed. The source says "last week". The time slot didn't change last week. And even if you said, "Last week O'Donnell ...", that's a violation of WP:RECENT. It's you who "doesn't seem to have a full grasp of Wikipedia policies". And one policiy that I don't intend to repeatedly remind you of is WP:CON. This is the last time I'm saying this: find a source that unequivocally (beyond your own conclusions) indicates that O'Donnell is "focusing a lot of his program on verbal attacks" on O'Reilly, or get a consensus. I feel that O'Donnell has displayed some inappropriate behavior on air, and that information is included in the article in a balanced way. But you are stepping over the line continuing to try to push this O'Reilly claim into the article. This article is a BLP and requires a very high standard for sourcing and following policies. Please don't continue to message with me the same lame arguments. It's more than a little obvious you are intent on pushing something critical of O'Donnell into the article. Cresix (talk) 19:40, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Political activities of the Koch family

Howdy, I started a discussion on Talk:Political activities of the Koch family related to your recent edits. I'd encourage you to join the discussion. Thanks for the work! --TeaDrinker (talk) 17:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Robert Hurt (politician). Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.