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July 29

Information Needed on How My Corrections Have Been Deleted

I just tried, for the first time, to do a major edit on an article, titled "John C. Cremony." I had just finished his "Life Among the Apaches* and wanted more information on the author. I found a very misleading article, and corrected it, quoting from the "Life" to prove my point. Much to my surprise, my correction was deleted, and the original article reinserted, within seconds of my post. Thinking that perhaps I had not correctly posted my revisions, I rewrote them and posted them a second time, only to again have the original article substituted for mine almost immediately. Although my contribution, from LosAngeles08, is listed in the "discussion" section, I could not access it.

Could somebody tell me what is going on? Can the author of an article somehow automatically delete any corrections or additions as soon as they are posted? Is my version accessible? How do I write an account of my experience that will inform readers who consult the article, but cannot be immediately deleted? In other words, can I write something for the "discussion" section that is not a [censored] correction of the article itself? I'm clueless as to what is going on, and disillusioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LosAngeles08 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

You can see the article history here, which shows other users' reasons for reverting your changes. The other editors believed that your additions were dubious, original research ("OR"), and not supported by the sources cited. I'd recommend starting a discussion at Talk:John C. Cremony about the changes that you would like to make. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The other editors' undoing of your edits have comments such as "not in the source, OR" and "Reverted addition of dubious unsourced content". I don't know anything about the topic or the sources, but sounds like either various editors disagree on the meaning of sources, or at least different editors using different sources are finding different information. It happens a lot in my experience, since not everyone has access to the same sources and definitely don't all have the experience to understand them all. Perfect example of the sort of dispute that can be hashed out on the article's talk-page. Things like "the article says X but source A says B instead; what is the basis for saying X?" would be a good starting-point there. Then others can explain why X is viable as-is, or help adjust the writing to agree with all sources ("A says B whereas C says X"), or maybe find more sources to break the tie or help re-interpret A itself. DMacks (talk) 00:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

In addition, the tone of your writing was not appropriately encyclopaedic; it offered an opinion, and thus did not conform to a neutral point-of-view. You are offering an interpretation of the book, based on your own ideas, which is not permissible on Wikipedia. Instead, we need verifiable facts that have been published in reliable sources - such as, newspaper articles or other books about the person / his work.  Chzz  ►  00:48, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Need to have a comment I made redacted due to the threat of legal action

I need to have a comment I made redacted due to the threat of legal action. The comment is on a previous version of my talk page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alxxthegeek&diff=387355724&oldid=381439736

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The comment is

The requested redaction is by deleting the words

I need to get them deleted asap to avoid legal action.

Alex Gibson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alxxthegeek (talk • contribs) 00:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Where's the threat of legal action? Bielle (talk) 01:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused...that talk-page comment does not look like a legal threat. Or are you threatening legal action if it's not removed? It's rare that we would remove partial comments except under extreme circumstances, and it's generally sufficient to remove the whole message (but again, I don't yet understand the severity of the situation you are seeing). DMacks (talk) 01:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I am being threated with legal action unless I get the comment I made "" redacted. The threatened legal action is in Sydney Australia.Alxxthegeek (talk) 01:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to the threat? GB fan please review my editing 01:13, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Sounds related to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MileyFan1990 (see archived sections for 28 August 2010 and 02 September 2010). I'll ping oversighters, but might be a job for wplegal (it's technically impossible to make the edits completely invisible to everyone). DMacks (talk) 01:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't see what DMacks is seeing (and in 2010, no less) at Miley Fan or any threat at all being made against Alxxthegeek. What am I missing that would interest oversighters? Bielle (talk) 01:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

As I understand it, the user the quoted comment was directed at is threatening Alxxthegeek with legal action because of the accusation of . Presumably the threat is made off wiki in Australia. Alxxthegeek has given info about work which could be used to track somebody down. I find it hard to believe anybody would use resourses on actually taking legal action over the quote. It sounds more like bullying. Here is a checkuser statement that the accused user has indeed  : [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The name mentioned in the comment in question matches a name involved in the SPI as part of a series of abusive edits by that sockfarm on the same topic as the comment in question. Other parts of that SPI make the connection to Australia, the source of the legal threat Alxxthegeek noted. DMacks (talk) 01:47, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I've been told all I can post about the legal threat is:

At this stage, it's better to advise Wikipedia that "At this stage the matter is confidential. Please take the steps you think appropriate to responde to my request to redact my statement". Alxxthegeek (talk) 01:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

So ID092833535 gets blocked (again?)? I am feeling really stupid, so forgive me but what could a (known?) sockpuppet possibly find sufficiently disturbing in the text cited to cause a legal threat, especially if he/she should be still blocked as a sockpuppet? Bielle (talk) 01:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

• If I understand correctly, I think PrimeHunter has it right, and this is a sockpuppet bullying Alxxthegeek with obnoxious legal threats. The comments were already blanked a year ago, so that can't be what they're asking. While I can't imagine the threat having any basis, I think it would ease Alxx's mind if we revdel'd or oversighted them, and I'd be inclined to do so (doesn't really fit any of the revdel criteria, but nobody's going to mind, right?). Alxx, would it be enough to wp:revdel them, so the general public can't see the text? If so, I'll do that for you. If you need it hidden from admins as well, you'll need to contact oversight; you can email them at Special:Emailuser/Oversight. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Just in case, I have edited the above posts to replace all copies of the original comment with "details removed". If this is a matter for revdel/oversight then about 20 revisions of the Help desk will have to be hidden as well. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:19, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you-- Alxxthegeek (talk)

Sorry for the delay in replying. Thank you for the help!. I've been requested to ask that the comments be revdel'd.- Alxxthegeek (talk)

Shuttle Columbia Disaster

The shuttle disaster was 1/8/86 not 2005 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.143.223 (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The article, Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, says it occurred February 1, 2003. Do you have a question about this? GB fan please review my editing 02:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

If you are referring to a claim in Wikipedia then please say which page it is on. Space Shuttle Columbia disaster was February 1, 2003 over Texas during re-entry. Space Shuttle Challenger disaster was January 28, 1986 off the coast of Florida shortly after take-off. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:13, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Express card slot.

I have a hp laptop which has a slot on the side about 50mm wide. According to the "Help" section it is for an Express Card. There is no information as to what an Express Card is or does. Any information would be appreciated. Joe Blow~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.41.154 (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.

PS: I see you attempted to sign with a single tilde. We actually sign with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks again, An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

For an information about ExpressCards see ExpressCard. —teb728 t c 04:55, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Part 2 of my question (here's a link to part 1)

PLEASE click the link and read the previous discussion. Can I <!-- -->'d it? An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

What specifically would you like to include on the page? Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:39, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. If you're asking if you can have content in violation of WP:UPNO if it's hidden? Then I'd have to say no, it'll still be there. Doing so could just be seen as an attempt to game the system. If you want to actually specify what you want to hide, then maybe I can give a more specific answer. Rehevkor ✉ 10:04, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it's probably not suitable, then. Thanks anyway, An editor since 10.28.2010. 21:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The page I edit comes blank !?

I have just created an account in order to edit an article. Unfortunately this article comes blank when I click the "edit" button. Any clue what I should do? Your instructions will be highly appreciated!

Thanks, CRABCHAMURA (talk) 06:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Remember to hit the "Save" button. Special:Contributions/CRABCHAMURA says that the only edit you have saved so far is this one here. Which page did you think you'd edited? - David Biddulph (talk) 06:32, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you're clicking the 'edit' link at the side of a blank section?

Use the 'Edit' tab at the top, near the right - where it says, Read   Edit   View history   Search

See also Wikipedia:Tutorial.  Chzz  ►  07:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

If you are trying to edit references then for the most common type of reference you have to edit where the reference is used and not where it is displayed. See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

iPhone

I have an iphone and wikipedia has a certain Internet theme on the iPhone which I accidentally turned off, I was wondering how I can get this back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.244.87 (talk) 07:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Click this link - Enable Mobile Version CaptRik (talk) 08:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

tool to analyse breakdown of edits, etc

Just wondering if there's a tool available that will list by percentage (for example) of how many edits that I have made have been to a certain page, or how many times in total I've edited there, that sort of thing. I'm far more active on certain pages than I am on others, and was just wondering how much of my time they actually take up, compared to many single instance edits - to remove vandalism, etc. a_man_alone (talk) 08:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

One tool is "X!'s Edit Counter" - to get details, you'd have to create the page User:A man alone/EditCounterOptIn.js to 'opt in' - it doesn't matter what you put on the page, it just has to exist. And then, the tool will show your "Top edited pages", which will probably cover what you want, here.

There's also a website (unaffiliated with Wikipedia), http://en.wikichecker.com/ - that shows "Frequently edited pages" if you click the thingy to expand it, but it defaults to just the most recent 500 edits. If you do "Analyze all edits of this user", it'll show all of them - here.

Yet another is http://wikidashboard.appspot.com/ - if you go to a user page, it lists the top-5 edited articles, and you can choose 10,20,50.

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters.  Chzz  ►  08:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry - been a bit lax here. X! is eactly what I wanted. Thanks for letting me know. a_man_alone (talk) 11:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Category:Non-English_welcome_messages for zh users

Are there enough traffic from Chinese editors so a separate welcome template can/should be created? I wouldn't mind taking on this task, but I'd like some gauging and other views. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 10:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Category:Non-English welcome messages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I've used those templates from time to time, so one day I might need a Chinese version. So, yes please. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Just realized: Should I have it in Traditional Chinese, or how should I deal with it? - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 10:41, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

In any case, {{Welcomeen-zh}} done in Traditional. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 10:53, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Added the docs and the category. Tried to match things after the foreign language to the Spanish (not that I read either Spanish or Chinese. :)Naraht (talk) 13:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Much obliged. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 13:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

References

Why does the Ellen MacArthur website show that i have not put the references tag in when I clearly have?

If you can reply on my user talk page, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Alastair Carr (talk) 10:31, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

You missed a </ref> tag when you added the reference for the foundation, so it ate all the rest of the text. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 10:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Debbie Johnson of Ham Lake MN

She is no longer married, has been divorced for at least 5 years and is no longer the owner of Blaine Hardware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.99.30.174 (talk) 12:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable sources. We can't just take your word on this. --Jayron32 12:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Debbie Johnson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

How do I create an article?

I have looked at all my buttons & searched it, but I cannot find how to create an article to submit. I would be grateful if you could anwser my query, if you can understand it. Thanks, Crystalbrook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalbrook (talk • contribs) 16:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TNXMan 16:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism program

I'd like to start using an anti-vandalism program, but I don't know which to use. Is STiki any good? Or is there another one that doesn't require rollback that's better? Thanks! --Nathan2055^talk 16:55, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Eh, I have seen a lot of problems with STiki. Try using Lupin's Anti-vandal tool combined with Twinkle. You need to add the code into your common.js file and then the tools will appear in your toolbox. Click filter recent changes to start the process. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:53, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I use Twinkle when I do anti-vandal work. I have never tried STiki, but I have seen problems with the more automated tools. I just go to recent changes. I like to look at each edit individually in my browser and decide what to do with it. Then I use Twinkle to revert and warn if appropriate.. GB fan please review my editing 18:02, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The anti-vandal tool looks great! Does it require rollback (I don't think it does)? --Nathan2055^talk 17:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I just added the anti-vandal tool, but the extra options aren't available in my toolbar. I can use the manual links, though. --Nathan2055^talk 17:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, are you using the vector skin? Try going to Special:MyPage/vector.js instead. If you are using a monobook skin go to Special:MyPage/monobook.js. Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:23, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I figured out the problem: the links appear in the toolbox, not the toolbar! I've began using the program, and like it a lot, especially it's rollback feature. It can even auto-warn. I give it a 10/10! Thanks for your help! --Nathan2055^talk 02:48, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Parent company

Hi there,

I was trying to create a page for our company called Boston's the Gourmet Pizza. Our parent company, Boston Pizza, is in Canada. When they expanded the business to the states, the name was changed to Boston's the Gourmet Pizza. I created a page for us yesterday, linking the Canadian page (which mentions us and uses our logo) to our page. This morning I went to check back and make some changes on our page and saw that my creation had been removed and dubbed "Copyright infringement." I'm trying to figure out why I can't create our separate company a separate page. This has happened twice now and its frustrating as we are our own company, with our own identity, our own history and our own future. Please help as we are trying to expand our brand online and would love to include a Wikipedia page in that particular portfolio.

Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated,

74.203.164.146 (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

First of all, Wikipedia does not exist to serve the purposes of your organization. Second, a copyright violation is a copyright violation.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I see your IP's talk page (talk) already has a conflict of interest warning, you should really read that and the other messages explaining the situation (and what to do about it), for convenience you can start here: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Rehevkor ✉ 17:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, that article was created by User:BostonsMarketing. This username indicates that you are here for promotional purposes. Please know that Wikipedia does not tolerate promotion. —teb728 t c 21:25, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Category: Dangerous Professions

Greetings, I, user Corusant, am proposing a speedy deletion template for the main category: Category:Dangerous Professions, since most of the users are voting for a deletion to the the main category page. Preferably, db-templatecat--Corusant (talk) 04:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Such proposals belong at WT:CSD. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukexpat (talk • contribs)

(edit conflict) Deletion debates run for 7 days, and there is no need to end this one early. Furthermore, "speedy deletion" is used only in a very narrow set of circumstances, and this category doesn't qualify. There is no rush on issues like this, so just let it go until such time as an administrator chooses to close the debate and act on it. --Jayron32 17:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

TIME- The Weekly News-Magazine Vol. 1 N0. 1 March 3,1923

I have a copy of the first published Time news-magazine, March 3, 1923. I want to sell this, do you know where? Please contact me @ <blanked>. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.42.162.2 (talk) 18:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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Vauxhall Page

My edit to add Lord Voldemort to the list of Noteable people for the Vauxhall page was denied because he "is not a real person". He may not technically be a living person, but he is known around the world as the darkest Wizard of all time. If he is not a real person then why does he have his own Wikipedia page? I added a reference (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, page 232) which outlines that Tom Riddle (Voldemort's given name) is from that area of London. Please reconsider this. It is obviously a link to his Wikipedia page where people can learn that he is a character in Rowling's book if they choose to do so. Please reconsider adding Lord Voldemort to the list of Noteable people section of the Vauxhall Wikipedia page.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karissa89 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

An article on a real place should only list real people, the reasons for this should be so obvious I cannot begin to explain them. Яehevkor ✉ 20:13, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

There is obviously a reference to a fiction book but we could put Lord Voldemort (fictional character). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karissa89 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

For the record, the diary is from Vauxhall Road, London(Just dug it out to check), not specifically Vauxhall itself, and there doesn't appear to be a Vauxhall road in Vauxhall. Also just because the diary is from there doesn't mean he is--Jac16888 ^Talk 20:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

There are plenty of precedents for including notable fictional characters on lists like this, if the assertion is properly sourced. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:39, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I suppose there are now I look. But there would need to be sources other than the book, indeportant souces establishing the connection and it's significance; random example. Яehevkor ✉ 20:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

If the original work is clear about it (and I agree with Jac that this is not a good example), I see no reason why the work itself would not suffice. Victor Frankenstein begins the book with "I am by birth a Genevese; and my family is one of the most distinguished of that republic"; that's good enough for me, unless you're going to argue he's an unreliable narrator. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

A decent example of where a fictional reference is appropriate in a real-world article might be re. Platform 9¾ at King's Cross. But that is sufficiently documented; has enough references to mean inclusion is appropriate.

For "Vauxhall Road", a) there is not such coverage, b) "Vauxhall Road" is not Vauxhall. So to me, it is obvious in this case that it doesn't belong.

In the book/film, there's a shop called "Winstanley's Bookstore & Stationers" at 422 Vauxhall Road, where Tom Riddle bought a diary. But to cover that minor detail in an unrelated article would be excessive. Consider just how many fictional books mention places in London? If we added them all (to the location articles), they'd overwhelm them. So unless the coverage is much more significant (e.g. 221B Baker Street), it shouldn't be included.  Chzz  ►  23:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

how to put reference

I have been told to correct my references but I still don't understand how to do that so can you tell me in more detail of how to put reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali786151214 (talk • contribs) 21:04, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Read WP:CITE for guidance. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Referencing for beginners may also help.--SPhilbrickT 21:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

July 30

Commons PD graphic is backwards

The URL: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/PD-icon.svg/64px-PD-icon.svg.png

The Issue: Prohibition symbol is supposed to have the diagonal from upper-left to lower-right, but the image referenced above has it in the wrong orientation.

Whoever made it should fix it. I was trying to find the "official" location of that graphic, but there is so much stuff here on Wikipedia that I couldn't find it. Thought it would be under copyright statuses, but it wasn't there so I didn't know what to except to post here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boodlums (talk • contribs) 01:01, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

You can see the original at Commons:File:PD-icon.svg.

That seems to have come from File:PD-icon.png, which was created in 2005 by Duesentrieb (talk · contribs) (as you can see, on the file page). You can probably contact that person on Commons:User talk:Duesentrieb.

It was created by a Wikipedia editor; it is just an icon; whether the slash is \ or / is a matter of personal preference, I think, and I don't see a compelling reason to change it; plus, lots of images copy the same style. Maybe it comes from the idea of Derestriction signs.

If you did wish to discuss the format of icons used on image / templates though, it'd probably be best to do that on Commons:Village pump (because "Commons" stores all the images used on all Sister wikis), or our own Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab).  Chzz  ►  01:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

See no symbol and a discussion of ISO 3864-1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Au.speedlimit.derestriction.svg

Australian speed derestriction sign

It isn't a "prohibition" sign though; instead, it means the file can be used without restriction. Many countries have derestriction signs with a "/" slash.  Chzz  ►  20:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Edwardsport Indiana

Edwardsport first went on the books in 1832 I have book that clearly details those events.

James Newkirk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.252.43.142 (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Presumably, re. Edwardsport, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Chzz  ►  01:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

How do I edit a page when there is no edit tab?

On the anniversary page for July 30, I want to enter 2011 Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall wed (Events) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.231.182 (talk) 01:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean the page July 30? If so, then the following will explain. If you meant a different article, I'm sorry I misunderstood. So;

A wedding anniversary is not normally considered notable enough for inclusion on day-pages; see Wikipedia:Days of the year. So, it probably can't be included; sorry.

To explain why 'edit' is missing though; the page July 30 has, unfortunately, had to be semi-protected so that only registered users can edit it. If you click 'View Source' (which replaces 'edit'), you can see info on "Why is the page protected?" and "What can I do?"

You could register then wait until you had been around for a short time (4 days/10 edits), but quicker is to place a {{editsemiprotected}} request in a new section on the article discussion page - Talk:July 30 - you'll see some previous requests there.

But, re. that specific anniversary, I don't think there would be agreement to add it; sorry. Chzz  ►  02:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Plus, I see now, that the wedding has not yet happened - and so, it wouldn't be appropriate, because we do not predict events before they happen.

The best approach would probably be - when it's happened and there is coverage - to add to Zara Phillips, and/or Mike Tindall. If there was enough coverage in reliable sources, it could feature in the news. But, we can't cover it until there is coverage in newspapers and suchlike.  Chzz  ►  02:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Aligning tmboxes

Hi, does anybody know how to align (e.g. center, right, left) tmboxes , please respond on my talkpage, thanks, Magister Scienta^talk (30 July 2011)

See User_talk:Magister_Scienta#Aligning_tmboxes - but, I'm sure others could add more to that.  Chzz  ►  06:20, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Whatever happened to the Mazda B-Series (North America) thread

It appears to have been merged into the Ford Ranger thread, but they were completely different vehicles until 1993. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.99.144.241 (talk) 03:28, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

You can see the old version here: [2]. I am not entirely clear why this was merged with the Ford Ranger article, as the merger deleted some material on the pre-1993 models, just as you note. The merger was done by User:OSX in December, 2010 as can be seen here. You can ask him why he did so at User talk:OSX. Maybe he can give you more information. --Jayron32 03:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Surrey Police article not appearing

This particular page has suddenly stopped appearing and all I get is a message that says: "No web page was found for the web address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey_Police"

Can anyone help? 85.210.158.27 (talk) 03:46, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Works fine for me. Try clearing your browser cache. --Jayron32 03:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it works now. That's strange as I didn't do anything differently at all. 85.210.158.27 (talk) 04:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you protect the bio for "Behnaz Sarafpour"

Hi,

Someone keeps vandalizing the biography of my wife, Behnaz Sarafpour. We have removed the incorrect and idiotic edits twice recently. Can you protect the page so that does not happen again.

This time you'll see the edit was adding a hyphen to my last name "shumeyko" in the form of "Shumeyko-Jeter"

Please contact me with any questions.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shumeyko (talk • contribs) 04:48, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be the place to request protection, but Wikipedia prides itself on being an encyclopedia which anyone can edit; so the people at Requests for page protection would not protect a page with such a low rate of vandalism. Particularly on request of the husband of the subject—it would give the impression that you were trying to enforce an approved version. —teb728 t c 05:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

It's very hard for us to maintain an unreferenced article; we cannot tell which facts are correct, and which or not. That's why we insist on references - see WP:V and WP:REFB.  Chzz  ►  05:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I have now added references to most of it, and done work on the formatting, etc. - see the page history.

That should help considerably in trying to maintain it.

There's still some things needing improvement - but, Shumeyko, please be careful about the conflict of interest; it's fine to remove any junk, but for other things please suggest the changes on the discussion page - Talk:Behnaz Sarafpour, and if you add {{Request edit}} it should get attention; please see WP:BESTCOI. Also worth reading WP:BLP.

It is unlikely that the article would be protected at this time, because there isn't enough evidence of persistent/ongoing vandalism to warrant that - and this is supposed to be "The Encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", so protection is a last-ditch effort (and, normally, short-term).

If you do have further concerns, see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject).

Best,  Chzz  ►  06:14, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

about ias academy

what are all the qualities to join in ias academy? now am doing bba 1st year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.67.166 (talk) 06:16, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.  Chzz  ►  06:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

IP account blocked

Resolved

My IP adress account was blocked recently by User:Brandon. The reason for the block was listed as Opera mini proxy. I was using my Opera mini on my phone when the block took place. What exactly is the meaning of proxy? And is there any possibility that my IP adress account be restored? Miguel AG (talk) 09:43, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Oops! I just found out that it was not my IP Adress that was blocked, it was the browser's server (I think), The blocked IP Adress was way different from mine. Sorry! Miguel AG (talk) 12:37, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

coley mccbe

Coley McCabe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

HI, i am coley mccabe. you have created a page for me (thank you) but there is no photo. may i send you one? Coleymccabe (talk) 13:57, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

If you have an image that you own the copyright to and you are willing to allow anyone to use it you can upload it to the Commons. Then it can be used in the article. GB fan please review my editing 14:04, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be very welcome. Please see WP:IOWN for how to donate copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

You can straight away upload your file onto the Commons under a free license. If you have already uploaded your file onto Commons, place the photo on the page you want it on by typing [[File:File name.extension|size]] on it. Miguel AG (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Problems with the article feedback tool

On the article Remember December, I removed my ratings since I didn't really want to rate a page I personally improved. But then, all the ratings turned to 1 and even if I rate it with 5, the "average" i still 1, and there's only 5 ratings. Prior to removing my ratings, it had around 4. I have removed my ratings on other pages, but this only happened here. Is there a bug or something? Pancake (talk) 16:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. According to this page, you could try posting at mw:Talk:Article feedback (preferred) or at Wikipedia talk:Article Feedback Tool. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I asked at MediaWiki. Pancake (talk) 20:59, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Table messes up all sections below it

In the Ben Gurion International Airport article there is a table in the traffic volume section which floats into the next level 2 section (access). The way the table flows, it totally messes up all the level 2 sections below it? Is there any way to fix this? For example, some way of maybe causing there to be a hard break just before the Access section? Help! Wikiliki (talk) 16:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Fixed - there was an extra "start of table" marker. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks! Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees :) Wikiliki (talk) 19:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE DELETE WIKEPEDIA ARTICLE ON ME

here is the link to the article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Scarface

I would kindly appreciate it, it is defamatory and it is incorrect.

My name is Chris W Knight and I am asking you to please delete this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.102.183.9 (talk) 18:20, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

It is unlikely the article will be deleted as the topic is notable. Which content specifically is incorrect? It appears to be a fairly reasonable synopsis of a book. --Daniel 18:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Please read our policy on biography of living people: if there is material about you in the article which is not referenced to a reliable source, it should be removed. But material which is referenced to a reliable source should not be removed. If it is the consensus among interested editors that the subject is notable, then the article will not be deleted. If there is specific material in the article which you contest, I strongly urge you to post at Talk:Son of Scarface, explaining what you want changed, so that interested editors can discuss it with you. --ColinFine (talk) 20:01, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

We will take your request very seriously, but I am sure you can understand that we do not delete articles simply on the request of an anonymous request. (You may very well be Chris W Knight, and there are ways to for you to verify your identify to Wikipedia, should the need arise, but most of us helping out at the help desk have no way of confirming your identity.) I see that there are some interesting claims in that article. Unfortunately, while sourced, two of the important sources are behind a paywall. Tat is not disallowed, but it does mean I cannot simply look at them to see if some editor added a source but was not careful in wording the text. Is it your contention that the Sun Times articles do not support the text in the article? If so, the next step is to post that at the Talk page, so an investigation can be undertaken.--SPhilbrickT 21:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

The refs and info didn't match up entirely - I've tried to properly source every statement. ^Avic_ennasis @ 04:42, 29 Tamuz 5771 / 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. A reminder to avoid shouting, as you did in the title section header. Thank you. 71.146.19.240 (talk) 06:38, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

NEW FONT IS NOT GOOD

Hello, It seems that suddenly the default font for articles in Wikipedia has changed from a perfectly readable one, to a bold but very SMALL one. Please be aware that for many readers this is not good, as many of us have trouble reading small fonts. I wish there was a way to change it back to the previous style, which was much more readable. 67.252.20.111 (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Does not seem to be happening to me. Try using a different browser. — Waterfox ^~talk~ 21:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

You may have accidentally changed the font size in your browser settings. For example, in Firefox Ctrl-+ and Ctrl-- change the font size, and Ctrl-zero restores the default. If you post your browser name here, someone will be able to give you specific advice. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:09, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Try changing the font in your browser. I hate the standard wiki font, so small. I use Candara (occasionally Georgia) font size 17 on FIrefox. Much more stylish, try it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. A reminder to avoid shouting, as you did in the title section header. Thank you. 71.146.19.240 (talk) 06:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Candara's nice! Maybe I don't mind sans-serif after all. I'll see what I think in a week. — kwami (talk) 06:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm trying it too :-) Seems good; Candara is The new ariel!  Chzz  ►  22:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

July 31

how can I edit the stacked blue boxes of related articles at the bottom of French Revolution ?

how can I edit the stacked blue boxes of related articles at the bottom of French Revolution ? The purpose is to link an existing article that is relevant to one of the blue box categories. Jrgilb (talk) 00:01, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

You can't. At least, not at that article. It's an inserted template. The template is located at: Template:French Revolution footer. Jarkeld (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Table help

In a table how do I hide text in a specific row? See here. I want to hide/collapse text in the "Notes" section. Thanks. —Mike Allen 04:38, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Something like this? — Bility (talk) 09:08, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks a lot! —Mike Allen 09:12, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, how do I change the header color, so it's not white. —Mike Allen 09:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Like this. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:39, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

That's it. Thanks John. —Mike Allen 22:14, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

part 2 (please read part 1)

What if a user conflicts a bot? A bot and a bot? Also, what is the longest string of edit conflicts? (FYI) I just got conflicted four times by seven objects (as in users and bots) at the Reference Desk. --Since 10.28.2010 04:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit conflicts can occur anytime 2 or more people edit the same page and attempt to save their version of the page. Whether it's a human or a bot is irrelevant, the key thing is that multiple edits are being simultaneously done. On the reference desk were you editing using the Edit button at the top of the page (i.e. had the whole page in edit mode) or where you editing a section by using the Edit link to the right side of a section heading? If you had the entire page open for editing then on popular pages you're highly likely to get edit conflicts, if it was just a section then I think you're just unlucky that time. Did you see the example at the top of WP:Edit Conflict? CaptRik (talk) 09:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

wikioffense

Will you get blocked if you post offensive comments about Wikipedia on your talk page? --Since 10.28.2010 04:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Depends on whether it's offensive to WP (which most people probably won't care about) or more generally offensive. But we issue warnings first, so people know where the lines are. — kwami (talk) 06:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Could you kindly respond to the above section as well? --Since 10.28.2010 07:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the 'what ifs' are asking. I've probably been blocked 7 times in a row in passionate talk-page discussions. I doubt anyone can tell you the record, but that editor is probably bald.

Yes, hitting 'save' and then changing your mind is gonna mess you up. I have only rarely succeeded in doing that, and then only because the server was so backed up that the save probably would have failed anyway. I don't really know, but it seems that the save is transmitted quite quickly, and it is only the response that lags. — kwami (talk) 07:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

One thing that would get you blocked for sure is making a legal threat. Another thing would be persistently making personal attacks or posting personal information about another person. (I can conceive of such things being done in the context of "offensive comments about Wikipedia.") —teb728 t c 10:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I should point out your signature is (again) in violation of guidelines, WP:SIGLINK to be specific. It must contain a link to either your user, talk or contributions page. Яehevkor ✉ 10:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

The user's most recent edit shows the signature has been fixed - but that turned out to be the final edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:46, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear. Not that I'm complaining really. Was getting rather tiresome. It would also appear the above edits were made with 71.146.19.240 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), rather than the account, which may explain the sig issues. Яehevkor ✉ 13:49, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Regatta Day

Resolved

Hello. I noticed that Regatta Day directs to Royal Hobart Regatta. However the term also refers to the Royal St. John's Regatta. I read about disambiguation pages and want to make one, but I can't understand how. 174.88.10.35 (talk) 13:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

If you pick where it says "Redirected from Regatta Day" just under the page title, that will take you to the redirection page, which you can then edit in the usual way. --ColinFine (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. What do I put on it? Is #REDIRECT Royal Hobart Regatta Royal St. John's Regatta ok? Or just take out #REDIRECT and add Royal St. John's Regatta? 174.88.10.35 (talk) 13:50, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

No, you should be aiming to make the Regatta Day page look something like the contents of, say, Black House (disambiguation), with one line of text for each possible meaning and a "disambiguation" notice at the bottom. See MOS:DAB. With only two entries this could be done with hatnotes but I sure others will turn up. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I copied that page and now it is done. 174.88.10.35 (talk) 14:18, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Naming a reference

I needed to add more references to some pages in wikipedia. I am able to add the references but am not able to name them. I mean i can type the link to the page in the references but i want to display the title of the link instead of its address.

For Example

What i am doing now is

===References===
<ref>www.wikipedia.org</ref>
<ref name="samplename">{{cite web|url=http://www.wikipedia.org/ |title=Wikipedia}}</ref>
{{Reflist}}

which will display

1. www.wikipedia.org

the user will be linked to that address upon clicking on it.

But I want to display

1. Wikipedia

which will link to the www.wikipedia.org

Please tell me how can this be accomplished.

Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theperfectpunk (talk • contribs) 13:55, 31 July 2011

I think I know this one. You type one square bracket

then the url

then a space

then the text Wikipedia

then the closing square bracket

so you get Wikipedia

(and use http etc before the www) 174.88.10.35 (talk) 14:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

See more at Help:Link#External links and Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Note that <ref>...</ref> should not be written inside the references section but where the reference is used. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Minor correction to the point of Primehunter - while many of the referencing conventions do not put the ref itself in the ref section, the WP:LDR method (the one I use all the time and think everyone should adopt) does have the references in the reference section.

One other minor note on terminology - the phrase "giving a reference a name" does not mean the word that shows up in the reference, it means something else. In the example I added, the name given to the reference is "samplename" which you can only see in edit mode.--SPhilbrickT 14:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Theperfectpunk. Maybe examples will make this clearer. There's lots of ways to do references, but to answer your original question - you could put e.g.,

Wikipedia has over 3.5 million articles.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page |title=Wikipedia}}</ref>
===References===
{{Reflist}}

See that here.

That's the most common referencing style, and you don't need to use a 'name=' unless you are using the reference several times.

As SPhilbrick said, there is an alternative way to do references, where you list the details at the bottom. In that case, you do need a 'name=' - like this;

Wikipedia has over 3.5 million articles.<ref name=wp/>
===References===
{{Reflist|refs=
<ref name=wp>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page |title=Wikipedia}}</ref>
}}

That will look just the same. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Trouble uploading photo to Commons

When I get to the Commons upload page, after having signed in, it says I am NOT signed in. When I try to sign again, it says that no such user exists, and asks me to create new account. I then tried that, but it says the account already exists. What is the matter?

This is the image I wanted to add to the La Puebla NM page, as I had just been there and taken pictures, my own personal pict:

La Puebla Church, by Ivan Alexander

Please help me upload this image, Thanks, Ivan Alexander

<redact> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humancafe (talk • contribs) 17:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Wikimedia Commons is actually separate from the English Wikipedia and you are not registered there. For an easy way to create accounts in other projects of the Wikimedia Foundation (including Commons) with the same name and password as your main account here, click this link: Special:MergeAccount

More information here: Wikipedia:Unified login -- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:42, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Danni Xtravaganza

I recently submitted a Wikipedia listing for Danni Xtravaganza. I have received a notice that it might be deleted because he is a 'living person'. He is deceased and it says so in my article in the last sentence. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philott (talk • contribs) 18:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Please use a descriptive title in future questions.. I have added one --ColinFine (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the BLP Prod because it clearly states the person is not living. GB fan please review my editing 19:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

International Organization membership template

Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |}

Further examples

Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |} Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |} Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |} Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |} Template:Membership/Sub/Head Template:Membership/Democratic Republic of the Congo Template:Membership/France Template:Membership/Turkey |}

|}

I am trying to create templates that will automatically return international organization membership of each country. I need help in creating templates for each country. The information that needs to be gathered are the membership(s) of each country to each international organization (EU, NATO, UN, etc) and the date of membership. The template for this task is demonstrated above. I am looking for people willing to help with the task of creating such templates for other countries. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 18:10, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you will have better luck in finding helpers in this matter at a related Wikiproject. I would suggest starting at WikiProject International relations. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 20:22, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I already did, not a lot of activity there. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 20:23, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

The most immediate problem is that there are a lot of countries, each of which is a member of several international organisations, and there are also a lot of different international organisations. The organisations of which each country is a member also change every once in a while. To create templates for all of them manually will require a lot of work and a lot of maintenance=a lot of willing volunteers, which you might not be able to call up. Is there a script that exists or could be written to simplify the process? Intelligentsium 00:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

And you're missing a lot of supranational organizations in S. and C. America, Oceania, and Asia. Some of the larger ones are outline here Template:Regional organizations.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh I am fully aware. I just want to create the templates for the listed organizations and expand them later on... If someone were to expand them beforehand I would not object :). I am overwhelmed with the task already. :( These templates need to be created once, there wont be much need for maintenance since these international organizations are quite stable. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

There is one possibility, but this is not sortable: create a (I can do this) template which have the parameters, but as I said: this would not be sortable, neither your "proposal" would be sortable... mabdul 00:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I do want to keep it sort-able. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 08:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Where to ask copyright question about image uploads

A professor who is about to retire wants to donate his slide collection. I suggested digitizing the pictures and uploading them to Wikimedia Commons. A section of the slides are historical images of Mexican periodicals, so I wanted to check if there would be copyright problems for those images. Some of these are rare or uncommon images with historical value, so I want to find them a home somewhere.

I know there are some people on Wikipedia who are quite knowledgeable about copyright and wanted to ask them. Cloveapple (talk) 21:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be awesome really. The noticeboard for asking questions about this kind of stuff is here I think: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Mexican copyright law can be downloaded here. It's in Spanish though, which I can't really understand that well. I think Mexico's public domain laws requires author lifetime + 100 years, AFAIK. And:

""Copyright shall not apply to shields, flags or emblems of any country, state, municipality or political division; or names, acronyms, symbols or emblems of international governmental organisations, or any other organization officially recognized. The legislative, regulatory, administrative or judicial, as well as their official translation."

See Commons:Template:PD-Mexico and Commons:Template:PD-MX-exempt-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:42, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. That was very helpful. It looks like not all the pictures can go to Wikimedia, though a good number can. Cloveapple (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

August 1

List of past titles?

For any given article, is there an simple way to see all of the past versions of its title and when they were changed? RandomCritic (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Title changes (more correctly termed "page moves") are logged automatically. To visit a list of logs for a given page, click the "view logs for this page" link at the top of the article's revision history page. There you can filter the results to only show page move logs. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 01:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) similar to the above answer

Yes; on an article page, first go to the "History" - if you are using the default skin, that's at the top-right, "View history", next to the search box.

Then click on the small link View logs for this page - which is near the top, just under "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".

That will show all logged actions for the page; if there are too many other actions, you can use the drop-down to just show "Move" entries.

You can also go directly to Special:Logs, and put the page name in there.

For example - for the article Kate Middleton, you'd get this.  Chzz  ►  01:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Where do I submit a request for an article?

I seem to be going in a circle trying to find the correct link to take me to area where I can submit a request for an article. I can find submitted requests, pending requests, etc., but not a link to a form to submit a request.

Thanks! 69.205.199.92 (talk) 02:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

If you can write a draft, with some appropriate references, the easiest way is to use WP:WIZARD and, at the end, choose to "Submit for review".

If you just want to put in a request for anyone to write an article, it's Wikipedia:Requested articles...but, it has an enormous backlog. So it's better to have a go yourself. See also WP:FIRST.  Chzz  ►  02:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Can someone help me create an article?

There was a real person called Dlasta that Xena:_Warrior_Princess character Velasca was based on. I have a source about the person right here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/ama/ama07.htm Can someone help me make an article on Dlasta please? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

See the section immediately above: If you cannot create an article yourself, the place to request an article is Wikipedia:Requested articles. —teb728 t c 03:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Also see WP:RS to determine whether the source you linked to is reliable, and WP:BIO to determine whether Dlasta meets the notability requirements for people. You might find it easier to leave a comment on Talk:Velasca where you might find other editors interested in writing about Dlasta. --Teratornis (talk) 03:56, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

If memory serves, Neptune was asked not to create any new articles since they create a poorly written stub and then come here asking for people to clean it up. At least two editors have attempted to take Neptune under their wing. IMO, Neptune needs to deal with those two editors since they seem to be willing to take on the task of helping Neptune. Dismas|^(talk) 04:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Dismas is right - Neptune is under a restriction to create articles only in her sandbox so that they could be checked. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Table help

Hi, does anyone know how I create a table with rounded borders? Thanks, Magister Scienta^talk (1 August 2011)

It's non-standard, won't work in all browsers, and can cause unexpected results. It certainly shouldn't be attempted on articles.

One way to achieve it is, using a "border radius" style; This page explains it a little. An example;

{| style="border:1px; background:#bbbbbb; -moz-border-radius: 2em; padding: 2em"
|-  
|This might have rounded corners. It depends on your browser.
|}

This might have rounded corners. It depends on your browser.

There is also a template, {{Round corners}} - see that page for an example.  Chzz  ►  04:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

FYI using Google Chrome v12.0.742.122 the rectangle above does not have rounded corners. CaptRik (talk) 11:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks everybody, all your assistance is really appreciated, Magister Scienta^talk (1 August 2011)

That should work in Chrome 4.0 and above. What about the example at {{Border-radius}}? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I am running Google Chrome v12.0.742.122 also and the example above has square borders but {{Border-radius}} is rounded. In Firefox 6 both have rounded borders. GB fan please review my editing 13:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Agree with GB fan, {{Border-radius}} is rounded for me. CaptRik (talk) 14:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

X

I am pissed. I wanted to just say, somewhere, how much I like WIKIDAMNPEDIA. I feel it is the only true source of information, however nieve and manipulatable that may seem. I now despise the internet with its constant wastes of time when I, a vulnerable single mother, though uniquely bright, am searching for L I T E R A L L Y vital information.

I listen to BBC/NPR daily. I also have friends who are off the grid. Which is better? I am in a flux. Help would be good. But making easier access for user compliments, let alone comments would be a good start.

Thanks for wasting my time tonight, and thank you even more for you original, brilliant and dangerous idea. It has to work. I will do whatever it takes to support it. by the way, i plan to graduate with a ba in psych in may 2012, just in case you have any openings for a weird, overlooked, think tank, multi-tasker type.

ADIOS AMIGOS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.169.164 (talk) 04:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Could this be User:Since 10.28.2010? He recently lost talk page access and this seems to be of a similar writing style. Ryan Vesey Review me! 05:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Mum's the word. (Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.) --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 08:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Forced addition of dot in middle initial?

Resolved

I am looking at the template Template:LDS70pres and I am running into a problem with Mr. Goaslind. Even though the entry in the table has [[Jack H Goaslind|Goaslind]], when I mouse over it or click on it, it goes to the page for Jack H. Goaslind (note with period), which then redirects to Jack H Goaslind. This means that when the template is displayed on that page, it still contains a link. I'd like to make it not redirect, so that the entry in the template correctly is shown in black on that page. Any ideas on why the initial link is to the one with the period?Naraht (talk) 05:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Works for me - ie, on Jack H Goaslind, if I look at the "Presidents of the Seventy..." navbox, the word "Goaslind" is in black.

It's probably a cache issue; the redirect - on the template - was fixed with this edit at 08:29, 29 April 2011. It's hard to spot, but in that edit "[[Jack H. Goaslind]]" is changed to "[[Jack H Goaslind]]". That happened after the page was renamed [3] 10:58, 28 April 2011.

I guess you're seeing an outdated version of the page, from some cache somewhere along the interweb pipes. Please purge both pages, by going to;

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:LDS70pres?action=purge

and

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_H_Goaslind?action=purge

If that doesn't fix it, try clearing your browser cache. And, finally, it's always worth trying a reboot.

If it still fails...can you check if it's the same if you are logged out, not logged in? Please let us know.  Chzz  ►  05:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Goaslind appeared on the page twice and the period remained in one of the links. I assume that when you clicked on the link you chose the one with the period but when you viewed the source information you saw the one without the period. I removed the period and the duplicate Goaslind and it works now. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, well spotted, I missed that! Thanks!  Chzz  ►  06:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!!!Naraht (talk) 11:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

What do you do when someone joins Wikipedia to edit to promote his own agenda?

New user User:Ebenezercore has just added his own name to Kinetic Sculpture Race even though he is notable for nothing other than what his father did. From personal experience with this individual, I know that there is little understanding of the concept of fair and unbiased reporting. This person has caused so many lawsuits and problems that even the local papers have begun to take note [4]. What do we do when someone joins only to self-aggrandize and probably to rewrite pages to suit himself? Is there a watch program for this? Please help. Ellin Beltz (talk) 10:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I've undone the edit - because the person named is not a public figure, and because it was unreferenced. And I have cautioned the user about our conflict of interest policy [5].

If you have further concerns, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  11:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Need to edit a page, but option is no longer available.

I would like to add/amend some content on the article about "Mehdi Hasan". However, there is no longer an edit option available on that page.

What can I do to edit the page?? Thanks

2yyiam (talk) 11:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

The page has been protected from editing by new users, due to repeated violations of our biography policies.

You can, however, put an edit request on the discussion page - go to Talk:Mehdi Hasan, create a "New section", put in a heading, and put {{editsemiprotected}} - just like that - followed by your request. (You'll see a previous request that you made in May 2010 on that page).

After you've made a few more edits, you'll be autoconfirmed, and able to edit it directly.  Chzz  ►  11:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Searching for Improper Latin replacements for Greek Letters.

I'm looking to make sure that all Greek-Letter Organizations (Fraternities and Sororities) have their names properly done in all Greek Letters. What I often see is (for example) instead of the proper ΛΧΑ, articles would have ΛXA. The first example is three greek letters (Lambda Chi Alpha), the second has a Lambda followed by a Latin Alphabet X and A. What I would like to have is the ability to search for any instance of a letter in the Greek Alphabet (Capital, no accents) directly preceding or following a letter in the Latin Alphabet (Capital, no accents) Does anyone have any ideas?Naraht (talk) 13:21, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

http://toolserver.org/~jarry/grep/?lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&ns=0 can search page names. I tried (Α|Β|Γ|Δ|Ε|Ζ|Η|Θ|Ι|Κ|Λ|Μ|Ν|Ξ|Ο|Π|Ρ|Σ|Τ|Υ|Φ|Χ|Ψ|Ω)(A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M|N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z) and (A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M|N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z)(Α|Β|Γ|Δ|Ε|Ζ|Η|Θ|Ι|Κ|Λ|Μ|Ν|Ξ|Ο|Π|Ρ|Σ|Τ|Υ|Φ|Χ|Ψ|Ω). Most results were redirects even though "Include redirects" was not checked. The only non-redirects I didn't already know to be valid were KhLΘG, WΔZ, Concerto for Piano and Concerto in G♯ΔA♭, Egaleo ΒC, ΔF508, ΦPHI Hi-Fi Innovation, but they may also be valid. I don't know a way to make the search for article content. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) Slightly laborious but there's only 46 possible combinations (we do not need to search for chi followed by the Latin X) so ΑX ΒX ΓX ΔX ΕX ΖX ΗX ΘX ΙX ΚX ΛX ΜX ΝX ΞX ΟX ΠX ΡX ΣX ΤX ΥX ΦX ΨX ΩX XΑ XΒ XΓ XΔ XΕ XΖ XΗ XΘ XΙ XΚ XΛ XΜ XΝ XΞ XΟ XΠ XΡ XΣ XΤ XΥ XΦ XΨ XΩ.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:49, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

That only searches full words and not parts of words. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Give me a few hours, and I'll use the Database scanner on my other computer. Disclaimer: my downloaded database is from early July, so some of the results will be wrong. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

(e/c)

To be more specific, I would need anything with a Greek Letter before or after a Latin letter that would be used by a lazy editor. So, for example, I don't need GΧ (G Chi) since G wouldn't be used that way. So the grouping for the Latin letters would be ABEHIKMNOPTXYZ and thus the "grep" would be [ABEHIKMNOPTXYZ][ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΙΚΛΜΝΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩ] and the two flipped. (I have seen something like a KΚΨ (first is a K, second is a Kappa - ugly), so doing "X Chi" would be useful.) I'm also ignoring F/Ϝ(digamma). I need parts of words since there are only a few cases where the latin letter and greek letter together would be the entire fraternity/sorority name (AΦ and ΔΥ are the only ones that spring to mind)

The typical situation is where University of Northern Wyoming lists their fraternities in the Student Activities with the greek letters after the spelled out letters so lines like *[[Alpha Phi Omega]] (AΦΩ) and the letter just after the left parentheses is an A where it should be an Alpha. Because of this, I expect multiple occurences on most pages where this occurs. Thank You!Naraht (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Assuming you use Windows, the Greek characters can be typed by using alt codes alt+224 all the way to alt+235, as far as I know. For instance, you can type Σ by using &Sigma with a semicolon at the end, which produces Σ. Similarly, you can type a delta by using &Delta with a semicolon at the end, which produces Δ, so it should be the same for all the other letters. --Σ ^talk_contribs 00:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Value of card

i was wondering if you guys could help me ive got a 2010 presspass fourwide jeff gordan memorbilia card numbered 4 of 10 can you please tell me the value of this card please......thanks jamie h — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.141.192.43 (talk) 16:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Anxious to help?

Those of you anxious to help editors, but are frustrated because Chzz seems to get to them first :) might check out Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 August 1. I've responded to almost half, but could use some help.--SPhilbrickT 16:11, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

User name

The user name is on the top of my article and doesn't make sense there. I can't fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Girlfromnarnia (talk • contribs) 19:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

You tried to create an article, but you wrote it on your userpage, which is supposed to tell us about you! I've moved it to User:Girlfromnarnia/Eliza Harris; but that draft wouldn't last long in its present form, since it provides no evidence that this person is notable enough to have an article about her in an encyclopedia (see WP:ACTOR for our standards). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I think Orange Mike intended to refer you to WP:NACTOR for our notability standards. Beside that, your draft provides no citations to reliable sources to verify the facts asserted. —teb728 t c 20:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

help

I recently asked question about how to put a reference and I wanted to know about this in detail but unfortunately there were no answer given, however I would like to know what's wrong with the references those I published in the article of Syed Zakir Hussain Shah and is there any other problem please how I can solve that because This a famous who I put article about therefore I don't want this to be out of Wikipedia.

Thank You I hope you will understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.24.201 (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners. Briefly, rather than list the sources at the end of the article, you need to cite them in the body of the text. This is particularly important in the case of biographies of living people where potentially controversial material not supported by reliable sources will be removed. In fact Syed Zakir Hussain Shah should probably be reduced to a stub until it is properly sourced. – ukexpat (talk) 20:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

...which User:Orangemike has now done. – ukexpat (talk) 01:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I experiment in my sandbox

I created the article called Dlasta in my sandbox: User:Neptunekh2/Dlasta. Could someone tell me what think of my article and if it should be on wikipedia? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 21:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Commented on your talkpage. I don't think this person passes our notability test - the only reference to her is in passing in Rothery's book. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Worse yet, it is copied almost verbatim from http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/ama/ama07.htm. The slight changes do not remove the fact that it is a copyright violation. —teb728 t c 02:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations Wikipedia User..

You are the winner for August 1st.

I received this and a choice of either $1000 gift certificate to Best Buy, $1000 towards and Ipad & something else. I chose the Best Buy gift certificate. Filled out a questionaire (no personal info was requested). But it it got stuck when I gave a phone number requested. (Cell Phone). Not sure if this is a legitimate prize. Please advise. I received this while searching on my BlackBerry. Thank you,

Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.248.1.220 (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Dude, you got Spam --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

This usually happens with squatted domains - i.e., you'll get a similar "survey" to win an Ipad if you go to http://wikiepdia.org instead of the correct address, http://wikipedia.org. ^Avic_ennasis @ 22:23, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Another possibility is that your BlackBerry got infected by malware which directs searches to a bogus site. In any case, the message you saw was not from Wikipedia and we cannot help, other than I strongly suggest that you give no additional info and most definitely no money or card or account number to whoever is running this scam. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:44, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Move multiple pages

Is there an efficient way to move an entire set of archive pages? Specifically I need to move all the Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archiveN pages to Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance/alertsN, (where N is an integer). Gerardw (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

If you move the top page, all the supages will follow automagically, I believe. Alternatively, if all the pages need moved, I can do it pretty quickly. :-) ^Avic_ennasis @ 22:25, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Some did but most of the archives didn't. If you have a way to do them in a batch I'd appreciate it. Gerardw (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done all but one page, which will be moved once an admin handles this request. :-) Let me know if you need anything else. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:18, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done--SPhilbrickT 00:00, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Gerardw (talk) 01:19, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I added dalasta in List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore#Historical_Czech_Lands

Can someone tell me what they think since I added dalasta in List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore#Historical_Czech_Lands? I did it because User_talk:Elen_of_the_Roads said I should. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure she didn't tell you to copy and paste copyrighted text though did she? I have reverted your edit on that basis. You may and should use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Note also that just changing the sentence superficially is not sufficient to avoid copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Finally, if that text was not copied and pasted but your own, the main comment I would have made for improvement was that it was not cited to a reliable source that verified the information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:12, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Spam protection filter

Hi i keep running into the Spam protection filter, i know how it works, but i'm not adding blacklisted links or titles. I get this even when the links are internal, if i hit back and publish again it works. I am an admin on the terraria wiki and this is conflicting with my ability to quickly edit pages. Is there some reason this is happening? And how do i fix it? Daking123 (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Can you give us an example of an edit? ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:20, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you referring to edits at Wikipedia or at http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Terraria_Wiki? This is a help desk for Wikipedia. Terraria Wiki may have other settings but it's possible somebody can help anyway if you quote the message you get. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Help Link

I need help creating a link. I thought there was a template/magic word that created if I clicked it would link me to my page, and if you clicked it it would link you to yours. Is that possible? Majestic Pyre^{My Speech Bubble} 23:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Special:Mypage. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2

my hp printer

my hp printer was not compatible with mozilla firefox I constiatly had to uninstall and then reinstall the printer program so i went back to explorer i dont like explorer what should i do I have windows vista and my printer is hp all-in-one C7280 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.181.228 (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 PrimeHunter (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Does the site "Dear God please help me" on freewebs contain some kind of virus?

as above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.38.224.172 (talk) 02:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Please note that you are in the Help Desk of the English Wikipedia, where we answer questions about editing Wikipedia. We are not affiliated with the website you mentioned. But you can try asking in the Computing section of the Reference Desk.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I started a new article on Dlasta

I started a new temporary article on Dlata: User_talk:Neptunekh2/Dlasta/Temp. I didn't copyright this time and the article is stub. Could someone expand please? Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)