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    Unique CU and Rename request

    A user with 5000 edits says he forgot his pwd, created a new account and wants the old account renamed to the new account. There are prior ANI and AE threads on this. I asked CU User:Brandon to chime in the thread, which is here: User_talk:John_Vandenberg#Moving. I've never seen CU used to prove two accounts are the same to do a rename so I'm seeking other input.RlevseTalk 22:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I know that when sysadmins take over accounts with forgotten passwords, more proof is needed then just the IP matching. Prodego talk 22:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm ready to provide any extra info if needed. NIGHTBOLT t 22:27, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you have email enabled for the old account? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks like no, that option does not work. NIGHTBOLT t 06:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you still have access to ru:User:Brandmeister? Prodego talk 22:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, as well as in other wikis. I use different passwords. NIGHTBOLT t 06:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    For what it is worth, I would call the accounts  Confirmed for socking purposes. Brandon (talk) 23:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    An edit from ru:User:Brandmeister would be good enough for me, and you can probably get the en user back by confirming with the ru account. Prodego talk 06:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I have made some recent edits there, such as this one. NIGHTBOLT t 09:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I got half way through this and thought of something else that you don't normally see a problem with on a rename--the password moves with the renamed account. So if we rename Brandmeister to Nightbolt (or anything else for that matter), you won't know the password to it since you don't currently know the password to it. Sorry I didn't think of this before but it's not normally something we need to worry about. Ideas anyone? Also, the account is SUL'd so the pwd on ru wiki should be the same as on en wiki so I don't understand why the pwd works on ru wiki and not on en wiki. I genuinely don't understand.RlevseTalk 11:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I've heard that the developers have reset passwords in last-resort type of situations, though they don't like to do it often because I imagine there are many more people who forget their passwords than there are people who need them enough to go through every step to recover them. Soap 13:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No, Rlevse, the password on ruwiki is different. Actually Help:Logging_in#What_if_I_forget_the_password.3F suggests moving and says "this will officially link your old and new identities". Is there some authorization log, which traces every log-in to check for possible hack attack on Brandmeister account? NIGHTBOLT t 17:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
     Done OK, but if it you're stuck with the old pwd, there's nothing the crats can do to help.RlevseTalk 23:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    So I must recall the old pwd to enter as Nightbolt? I can't login now as Nightbolt with associated pwd, pwd e-mailing does not work. 213.154.0.76 (talk) 14:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you have email set? Because I don't see an 'E-mail this user' when visiting User:Nightbolt. Have you tried the merge en:User:Nightbolt by using the "manage your global account" from another wiki with SUL? –xenotalk 14:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I receive "the account "Nightbolt" could not be automatically confirmed as belonging to you on the following sites (en.wikipedia.org); most likely they have a different password from your primary account" when merging on Meta. Does it mean that my Nightbolt account assumed Brandmeister's password? 213.154.0.76 (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No the "old Nightbolt" account's pwd should have moved to the "renamed Nightbolt" account and the old "Brandmeister" acct pwd, the one you forgot, should now be the "new Nightbolt" acct's pwd. This is what I told you before would happen. RlevseTalk 15:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Moondyne sysop flag request

    Resolved

    I resigned my sysop status whilst in good standing in January 2009, to have break and refocus RL priorities. I've since eased my way back in and respectfully request its reinstatement. Although I don't see myself heavily involved in admin activities initially, I have several article and history merges I'd like to oversee. –Moondyne 06:13, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    For what it's worth, I know of no reason this request should not be granted. Newyorkbrad (talk) 10:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not familiar with this user so I checked Special:UserRights, and found there is no record of having been an admin on en wiki. Why is that? Have you changed names or something? RlevseTalk 11:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Moondyne apparently had his/her rights removed here per own request. --RegentsPark (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Is the fact that they've deleted pages and blocked themselves before enough evidence? T. Canens (talk) 14:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I've heard of admins blocking themselves once, but three times? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It happens :( Rights were initially assigned here. Account was subsequently moved. –Moondyne 15:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I did some digging (I'm not a 'crat, just a curious editor) and found the granting of the admin bit and the RfA. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:14, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I do think Moondyne has to remove the userbox on his userpage before getting his rights back. :) Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you mind if I link your RFA (or the redirect-to-your-RFA) when granting the right to alleviate further potential confusion? –xenotalk 15:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:Requests for adminship/Moondyne already redirects to the old one. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    In the userrights log, I mean. –xenotalk 15:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I've outed myself, so go ahead. :( –Moondyne 15:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I know you removed it, but yes, I found it before you linked it here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
     Done You're all set [1]. –xenotalk 15:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. –Moondyne 15:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating SUL reserved accounts while IP is blocked

    I responded to a request today on the unblock mailing list from a user with a SUL account on several language WPs, and wants to create the same one here. The problem is that they are using an IP that is part of an anon-only, account-creation-blocked range (hence the email to unblock-en-l). Assuming they meet our usual requirements, I'd go ahead and create the account for them as usual, but I can't because the username is reserved for the SUL system. I was wondering if you knew what is the best way of dealing with this?

    My suggestion was to create an account with a different username, and then request it be re-named to the SUL name - is that ok? I don't think there is much of a problem with people claiming they have accounts on other SUL wikis when they don't, but if they do I guess it could be a problem as you can't verify they own the already merged part of the SUL account can you? Peter 20:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

    Yes, that seems sensible. We can then handle the request the usual way - by asking the user to post a diff of a confirmation edit made while logged in on the home wiki of the SUL. But just double check that the username hasn't been used already for significant edits on en:, before asking them to jump through the hoops. Apologies if my answer isn't totally comprehensible - it's late here, and this Cockney is cream-crackered. --Dweller (talk) 22:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    what you can do is unblock the individual ip for a short time which will enable him to SUL into en.wp. βcommand 22:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]