Talk:Korean cuisine
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Instant Noodles
Wow, it's changed a lot since a handful of us started this article. I was going through and noticed that the adoption of instant noodles was placed within the Japanese occupation. The occupation ended in 1945, but instant noodles weren't marketed until 1958. Zenpickle (talk) 13:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
| “ | Western food began emerging into the Korean diet, such as white bread and commercially produced staples such as instant noodles began to appear as well. The Japanese colonial period ended after the defeat of Japan during World War II | ” |
- The information was inserted by Tanner-Christopher[1] based on an academic book authored by Pettid. I think the author refers to ready-made noodles like somen. But instant noodle only confines instant ramen/ramyeon, I will remove the "instant noodle".--Caspian blue 15:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- The Instant noodles article has a reference [2] showing the Republic of Korea as the sixth largest consumer of instant noodles. Perhaps this does belong in the article? jmcw (talk) 12:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
| “ | The marshmallow-filled chocolate snack is not only a favorite of children, but also of the country’s military, as they are supplied with the snack after their first week of basic training, which adds to its symbolic image and campaign of “jeong” (compassion, love for another). | ” |
New Link?
What follows is a link to a video concerning South Korean street food and deserts. Would it be possible to add this to the page? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IunpUV14xLk Blongbotham (talk) 23:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)blongbotham, Korean International School, Journalism
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Read it, then fix it. Why is this crap semi-protected? That's two blatant errors and I'm only skimming!
Those in the lower economic levels were likely to only enjoy a single bowl of white rice each year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobsjd (talk • contribs) 23:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- May I suggest that you read up on WP:Civil before making any more comments, the way you phrased the comment is inappropriate. The article is protected due to several edit wars over the past few years. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 03:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Racist article....
Like the angry editor above, why is this article protected? You don't own this article, neither from the content is it worth protecting. It seems there is too much of a need for stereotypical racism to placed into articles about non-white people on this American enclycopedia. In the case of this article, I am referring to the need to mention dog meat!!
Dog meat??? WTF? Is this article about the historical dietary habits of the Korean people or the modern population of South Korea? Now I cannot speak for the North, but the likely dishes being discussed here are not for common consumption on the streets of Pyongyang. So I presume the images used have all been taken in the South. Therefore to include dog meat is just pandering to the racist preconceptions of non-domiciles. I have lived in Korea for many years (my wife is Korean) and I have never, ever, seen anyone eat dog, refer to dog meat or want to eat dog meat. In fact, once when we were deciding what we should all eat in Seoul, I made (what I thought was) a joke that we should go and get gaegogi. In one instance I deeply offended my wife and all her Korean friends/colleagues.
As the article on dog meat states, "Selling dog meat has been illegal in South Korea since 1984". So the picture on this page, if it is actually real is endorsing an illegal act. Wikipedia would be therefore doing a disservice if it didn't show more illegal acts then? How about a murder, or open drug use? Furthermore, the Koreans-eating-dog-meat belief came back to the USA and Europe with the thousands of white troops that served in Korean War and were horrified when they saw starving Koreans eating whatever was available, such as dog. (The South Korean Military Museum shows starving kids going through a GI rubbish dump, and eating out of spent K-ration cans)
As this article includes dog meat, which is apparently required part of modern Korean cuisine, I also checked the Chinese Cuisine page. Guess what? No mention to eating dog meat there. Yet the Chinese remain the largest consumers of "man's best friend" in the world. See Dog_meat#China_Mainland. It is quite clear that including dog meat in such a prominent place in this article is pandering to a racist out-dated view held by non Koreans!
I also looked at the Japanese cuisine page. Shock horror! No mention that the Japanese have a penchant for consuming "Free Willy". Why is this? Every year their boats leave Nihon for their annual hunt to kill a few hundred whales. It's a key part of their culture but it's missing from the article on Japanese cuisine. Ironic, as eating whale in Japan is legal!! Whereas eating dog in the Republic of Korea is not! Hmmm, final check South African cuisine. Wow not a single mention of bush meat which is often openly sold in markets. This makes the inclusion of dog meat in this article as particularly distorted and racist.
Thought experiment: if this article is going to contain dog meat, as if it's normal food for an average Korean. Then maybe other articles should include historical, outdated facts that are given undue links to the present. For instance Germany should always be linked to the Nazis. As there are still neo nazis in the country, by association Germany is a nation with right wing extremists. Or why not reference the fact that as the Mafia originated in Italy, and there are still Mafia there, Italians have links with organised crime.
The same therefore goes for the assumption that dog meat is still "normal" and on the menu in Seoul or Pusan! And the average Korean will happily tuck into a plate of Fido! The fact that the article states dog meat is still popular "with a segment of the population" has absolutely no meaning. As I note above, seven decades ago Germany was full of Nazis, as a "segment of the population" still like Hitler does that mean is should be given its own section. (I would like to see how long that assumption would be allowed to stay!) Same goes for the Greeks, ancient Athenians slept with boys, assuming a "segment of the population" are still pedophiles in modern Greece, does that necessitate the link that it's still normally practised in the Aegean states.
In that manner, the inclusion of dog meat on this page fails under WP:UNDUE and is a gross misrepresentation's of the reality and a distorted view of the country.
It is no doubt also a testimony to why this page is blocked and the edit wars. This stinks of WP:OWN and is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.23.89 (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)