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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on July 17

Sheffield

... that Sheffield has more trees per person than any other city in Europe?

5x expanded by Jack (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 16

Sandy Ullrich

... that in his only full Major League Baseball season, Sandy Ullrich was the second youngest regular on the Washington Senators roster?

Expanded fivefold by LAAFan (talk). Self nom on 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Forest of Galtres

... that pannage was a valuable right in the former royal Forest of Galtres in North Yorkshire, England?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salmon Creek Arch Dam

... that the Salmon Creek Arch Dam (pictured), located in Juneau, the capital of Alaska in USA was the world's first constant angle arch variable radius dam built in 1914 on the Salmon Creek?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bentworth, Hampshire

... that Bentworth, a village in southern England had its manor used as a 'hiding place' for many English Kings dating from the 10th century to the 16th?

5x expanded by User:Jaguar (talk). Nominated by User:Jaguar (talk) at 20:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The necessary level of expansion began in April. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uguisu no fun

... that geishas would rub nightingale droppings on their faces to help remove their heavy makeup?

Created by LittleT889 (talk). Nominated by LittleT889 (talk) at 20:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant

... that the first chef de cuisine at Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant in New Brunswick, New Jersey was a graduate of the French Culinary Institute?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slow Dance (song)

... that Keri Hilson's 2009 single "Slow Dance" was co-written by American recording artist Justin Timberlake as early as 2006?

5x expanded by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Candyo32 (talk) at 18:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listed buildings in Rivington

... that the Listed buildings in Rivington include a replica of Liverpool Castle and a Pigeon Tower? (pictured)

Created by J3Mrs (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 21:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bernard Anselme

... that in 1985, Member of the Walloon Parliament Bernard Anselme authored a decree establishing the city of Namur as the capital of Wallonia?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cully Cobb

... that the southern agricultural publisher Cully Cobb, as an AAA official in 1933, directed the plowing under of cotton in an effort to boost lagging farm prices?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Griffin article2=Robert Galambos

... that the term "echolocation" was coined in 1944 by Donald Griffin, whose work with Robert Galambos was the first to conclusively demonstrate its existence in bats (pictured) as a tool for navigation?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Savage Mostyn

... that after failing to engage two French warships, Captain Savage Mostyn (pictured) demanded that he be tried by court-martial?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baughurst

... that one suggested toponomy of Baughurst in Hampshire is that the village is named after the "wood of the badgers"?

5x expanded by UkPaolo (talk), Mattgirling (talk). Nominated by Mattgirling (talk) at 15:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kidnap of General Kreipe

... that in 1944 British agents carried out the Kidnap of General Kreipe, on the German occupied island of Crete?

ALT1

... that in 1944 British agents kidnapped a German General, on the German occupied island of Crete?

Self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manufacturing in Hong Kong

... that the manufacturing in Hong Kong started to decline in the 1980s due to industrial relocation?

Created by Kayau (talk). Nominated by Kayau (talk) at 08:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

River Raisin National Battlefield Park

... that, when formally established, the River Raisin National Battlefield Park in Monroe, Michigan will become only the fourth National Battlefield Park in the United States National Park Service?

5x expanded by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 05:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. Bejinhan Talk 11:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... the River Raisin National Battlefield Park will preserve the site of the United States' heaviest defeat in the War of 1812? Le Deluge (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chamaecyparis eureka

... that the extinct Chamaecyparis eureka is the oldest confirmed member of the genus Chamaecyparis?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 04:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. AGF-ing offline reference. Made some minor grammar corrections to hook. BejinhanTalk 11:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1... that the conifer Chamaecyparis eureka is the oldest confirmed member of its genus? Le Deluge (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citadel of Arbil

... that it has been claimed that the Citadel of Arbil (pictured) is the oldest continuously inhabited site in the world?

ALT1:... that it took the Mongols six months to capture the Citadel of Arbil (pictured)?

Created/expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Original hook is very hooky, better than ALT1. Le Deluge (talk) 12:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AGF for first hook; for second hook. No problems with length or date. I also prefer the first one - it's a lot more interesting than the second. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Gosling

... that Mark Gosling served for almost two years as Colonial Secretary of New South Wales, despite having only a primary education?

Created by Bart133 (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. Bejinhan Talk 11:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

500 home run club

... that Gary Sheffield (pictured) is one of ten baseball players to join the 500 home run club since 1999?

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 03:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything here seems ok, 5x expansion, length (311 to 2290 characters), ref ok, Article is sourced for living members appears neutral, Picture as CC, so overall looks good. Any other thoughts out there? Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- should be "ten baseball players" - most en. Wikipedians are in non-baseball countries, so may not know the jargon.Le Deluge (talk) 12:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - agreed Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fixed it. Dincher (talk) 21:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas J. Deverin

... that Thomas J. Deverin proposed a bill requiring New Jersey public schools to begin with a daily period of silent mediation, which both opponents and supporters saw as reintroducing school prayer?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. Bejinhan Talk 11:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hampton Roads Rhinos

... that the proposed NHL expansion team to play in Norfolk, Virginia in the late 1990s was to be called the Hampton Roads Rhinos?

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by Patriarca12 (talk) at 02:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There must be scope for a quirky along the lines of :
ALT ... that in 1997, officials ordered rhinos off the roads of Virginia? Le Deluge (talk) 12:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I donno. Ive posted a few concerns on the talk page of the article. But right now i think it would be best if the article had more diversity in its sourcing (all the sources are from the Virginia Pilot) it seems, it also seems there is not much persistance in coverage from the event (See talk page of the article for a more elaboration). But its only my opinion of the article, others may differ on it. Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 15

Christine McKenna

... that British actress Christine McKenna starred in the 1979 series Flambards but is now a television producer in the United States?

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 15:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jacke Davis

... that retired baseball coach Jacke Davis had five players he coached at Panola College go on to play in Major League Baseball?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saadanius

... that the recently discovered primate species, Saadanius hijazensis, may have been very closely related to the last common ancestor of apes and Old World Monkeys?

Comment: Technically, Kiwipat beat me to the step of creating the article when he created a ~33–word stub. If that merits "author" status, feel free to change that in the nomination. The sizable expansion was my own work, supported by Ucucha who sent me a copy of the journal article. – VisionHolder « talk » 03:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Visionholder (talk). Nominated by Visionholder (talk) at 03:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers

... that Iowa Governor Chet Culver publicly stated that he was "personally disturbed" by a bus advertisement placed by Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers, a local atheist group?

Created by Plumkins (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tonight I'll Be Staying Here with You

... that Bob Dylan wrote "Tonight I'll Be Staying Here with You" in two days at a Ramada Inn in February 1969?

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 02:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Egar

... that Australian Test cricket umpire Colin Egar received death threats after no-balling Ian Meckiff for an illegal bowling action?

5x expanded by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion and date verified. AGF-ing vague offline reference. Bejinhan Talk 10:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huasca de Ocampo

... that Huasca de Ocampo is home to one of three major formations of columnar basalt (pictured)?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Huasca de Ocampo is home to a museum dedicated to goblins?

Date and length verified, offline reference accepted in good faith. Hook #2 looks more unique to me. Bart133 ^{t c @} 14:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SteelPath

... that SteelPath is the first investment firm to offer master limited partnership mutual funds?

Created by Jrod4040 (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 23:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Morris Kessler

... that, although police later found the getaway car used in the murder of Morris Kessler, the crime remained unsolved?

Created by 71.184.49.218 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 23:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. AGF-ing offline reference. Bejinhan Talk 10:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas G. Dunn, Democrats for Nixon

... that Elizabeth, New Jersey Mayor Thomas G. Dunn served as a national co-chair of Democrats for Nixon a group formed by former Governor of Texas John Connally to support Nixon's 1972 re-election bid?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Altyn Tagh fault

~~... that segments of the central section of the Altyn Tagh fault are linked through restraining bends, that form anomalously high areas (example pictured)?~~

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date verified, length verified, hook refs verified.

I have moved the article from Altyn Tagh Fault to Altyn Tagh fault in accord with the policy on capitalization at WP:NAME and in accord with scholarly usage.

This has got to be the most technical hook I have ever seen. Maybe an alternatives can be suggested?μηδείς 03:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

<g> How about :

ALT1 ... that the ~5800 metre high mountains of the Altun Shan (pictured) were formed at a bend in the Altyn Tagh fault?
ALT2 ~~... that the 1,500 km Altyn Tagh fault (pictured) allows Tibet to move against the Eurasian plate?~~Le Deluge (talk) 13:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of technical hooks here, and this is by no means my most technical, however I've tweaked ALT1 and would be happy with that. ALT2 isn't really accurate, original hook and ALT2 struck through. Mikenorton (talk) 19:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ola's Kool Kitchen

... that Ola's Kool Kitchen was conceived by DJ Ola as a reaction against mainstream radio's focus on playlists prescribed by major record labels?

Created by Aspland11 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 21:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Sorrentini

... that actress Jamie Sorrentini was directed by Harold Prince in the U.S. national tour of the musical Parade?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. AGF-ing offline reference. Bejinhan Talk 10:44, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IL Stålkameratene

... that the football club Stålkameratene were expelled from their league in 1997, only to score 153 league goals the next year?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. AGF-ing offline and Norwegian language reference. Bejinhan Talk 10:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Political killings in the Philippines (2001-2010)

... that 1,200 journalists, human rights advocates, and leftist activists have been killed in the Philippines as a result of Gloria Arroyo's (pictured) counter-insurgency program "Oplan Bantay Laya"?

Created by Smile1234smile (talk). Nominated by Smile1234smile (talk) at 21:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kachinus

... that the extinct ant-like stone beetle Kachinus, found in Cretaceous amber, is markedly similar in appearance to the modern genus Paraneseuthia?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 19:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nuuk Airport

... that only Air Greenland and Air Iceland operate at Nuuk Airport (pictured)?

5x expanded by Algkalv (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 19:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready for DYK. Nice work. Dincher (talk) 21:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stu Foord

... Saskatchewan Roughriders running back Stu Foord (pictured) scored a touchdown on his first Canadian Football League rushing attempt?

Comment: I tried to judge the 5x expansion using the character count, which I hope is the correct way.

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref OK. Good to go! Yoninah (talk) 20:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John T. Gregorio, 20th Legislative District (New Jersey)

... that John T. Gregorio resigned from the New Jersey Senate representing the 20th Legislative District after a conspiracy conviction for concealing his ownership of two go go bars operated by his son?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Powers of the President of Singapore

... that 1991 amendments to the Singapore Constitution gave the President (S.R. Nathan pictured) powers to block attempts by the Government to draw upon past reserves it did not accumulate?

... that in 2009 the President of Singapore S.R. Nathan (pictured) exercised his constitutional powers for the first time to approve the use of S$4.9 billion from the nation's past reserves to fund government schemes during the financial downturn?

... that the President of Singapore (S.R. Nathan pictured) is empowered by the Constitution to authorize investigations by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau even if the Prime Minister refuses consent for them?

Created by Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 18:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dromia dormia

... that as well as sponges, crabs of the species Dromia dormia have used hollow wood and the sole of a shoe for camouflage?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dhimitër Anagnosti

... that Albanian movie director and Minister of Culture, Youth and Sports Dhimitër Anagnosti resigned from his minister post in 1994 because then President of Albania, Sali Berisha, had not given his own resignations?

Created by Sulmues (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Kramish

... that though critically injured in a 1944 blast that was "perhaps then the largest release in history of radioactive materials", Arnold Kramish credited his survival to his mother's chicken soup?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, hook ref OK. I changed it to "1944" as in the article and sources, and added a link to chicken soup. Cute hook! Yoninah (talk) 20:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zaleski Mound Group

~~... that a Native American mound is located behind the Methodist church in Zaleski, Ohio?~~

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1

... that three Adena burial mounds (one pictured) are scattered around the village of Zaleski, Ohio?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may need a copyedit. For example, the word 'valuable' sounds like quite a POV, and ~~I also spotted a fragment. Wait a moment, I spotted another one.~~ Hang on, where are they? Aw, maybe I wasn't that sane when I was looking at the article. :) Anyway I still think it would benefit through a minor copyedit. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Valuable" is what the sources say, and anyway only the more valuable archaeological sites qualify for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Places. Please read the bottom of the left column of PDF page 27 (marked as page 21 in the bottom right corner of the page) of this National Park Service document, which I've used for citation #5 in the article. Nyttend (talk) 23:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then one could add, it is valuable according to (insert ref here). Kayau Voting IS evil 23:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone (Olympics song)

... that "Everyone", the official theme song of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics held in Singapore, was sung by five different artistes each representing his or her continent?

Created by KiasuKiasiMan (talk). Nominated by AngChenrui (talk) at 12:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article is not long enough however. I'm in the hope someone would help to expand it to a suitable length, so that it would meet the DYK criterion on article length - I currently don't have the time to do so. If however no one expands the article and this nomination is due, you may alert me at my talk page and I'll see how I can help. Thanks, AngChenrui (talk) 12:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

François Spoerry

... that Alsatian architect François Spoerry was an advocate of vernacular architecture?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. APK whisper in my ear 13:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Think Small

... that the VW Beetle's (pictured) Think Small advertising campaign, considered the best campaign of the 20th century, had the challenge of advertising a vehicle that was designed by the Nazi Party?

Created by Gary King (talk). Nominated by Gary King (talk) at 07:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Bovard

... that Michigan Wolverines center Alan Bovard coached the Michigan Tech football team to its first undefeated season in 1948?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 07:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. APK whisper in my ear 13:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Plumeri

... that Joe Plumeri, the CEO of Willis Group Holdings, owns the New York Yankees’ Double-A affiliate baseball team?

ALT1: ... that Joe Plumeri, CEO of Willis Group Holdings, got his start by interviewing accidentally with what he thought was a law firm, but which was a small brokerage of the future CEO of Citigroup?

Created by Epeefleche. Nominated by --Epeefleche (talk) 07:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baffin Bay, Baffin Bay (Texas)

... ~~that there are two Baffin Bays (one pictured) in the North America with a volume difference of about a million?~~

Comment: See "etymology" in Baffin Bay (Texas). The math is area*average depth: 689000x861/(219x2.3). The hook can be said in a dozens of ways, not sure which one is better.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that 'difference' works here as it doesn't make it clear that it's a ratio, how about

ALT1 ... ~~that although there are two Baffin Bays in North America, one of them (pictured) contains about a million times as much water as the other?~~ Mikenorton (talk) 08:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. "Although" doesn't work in ALT1, IMO, thus ALT1a ... that there are two Baffin Bays in North America, one (pictured) containing about a million times more water than the other? Materialscientist (talk) 09:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansions, dates, lengths and image OK for ALT1a, AGF for foreign language ref. I tweaked the hook again slightly adding 'about a', which I think reads better. Mikenorton (talk) 23:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Struck through past hooks. Materialscientist (talk) 11:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strobilomyces foveatus

Four brownish mushroom laying side to side on the ground, with small dark brown scales on their caps

... that the cap surface of the mushroom Strobilomyces foveatus (pictured) is covered with scales, while the spore surface is covered with spines?

Comment: Sorry, it's weak, but there's not much to work with.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go: date and hook are fine, while sourcing is dependent on books that appear to be quite reliable. Strongly suggest that this image be the lead. Nyttend (talk) 17:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moon Museum

... that a drawing of a penis by Andy Warhol (pictured) may be on the moon?

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think that hook is a little misleading. The article says "He created a stylized version of his initials which, when viewed at certain angles, can appear as a rocket ship or a penis." Perhaps a more accurate if less sensational hook would be "... that tiny drawings by Andy Warhol (pictured) and five other prominent artists may be on the moon?" - Station1 (talk) 07:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying, but i think the fact it looks like one, and is cited to look like one in many references, is too good to miss... if we switched the word "of" to "resembling" would that be better? something like...

ALT 2 ... that a drawing resembling a penis by Andy Warhol (pictured) may be on the moon?--Found5dollar (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Better, yes. You do have a point. Station1 (talk) 19:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander J. Menza

... that Governor Brendan Byrne recognized Alexander J. Menza for his service in the New Jersey Legislature on the Mental Health Planning Committee, calling him the "voice of the voiceless"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a typo in this nom. Is it supposed to read "for his service" instead of "for he service"? Shearonink (talk) 10:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Typo was corrected. Thanks for catching my error. It can be so hard to find errors when reading something when your brain reads what it thinks should be there, not the words that actually appear. Alansohn (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Murdough

... that while Ryan Murdough sought the Republican nomination for the New Hampshire Senate, he has dismissed the Republican Party itself, claiming that it has "sold white people out"?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 00:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 14

Trogia

... that "little white", a mushroom in the fungal genus Trogia, has been implicated in the deaths of about 400 people in Yunnan, China?

5x expanded by Sasata (talk), Casliber (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 22:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Kaiser (1911)

... that the German battleship SMS Kaiser damaged the British battleship HMS Warspite during the Battle of Jutland in 1916 which forced it to withdraw from the battle?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfield Cobblestone House

... that the Butterfield Cobblestone House (pictured), considered the finest Greek Revival building in Orleans County, New York, is the only cobblestone building in Clarendon?

Comment: Hook sources are on pages 15 and 17 of source document

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 18:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Florence Meyer Blumenthal

... that philanthropist Florence Meyer Blumenthal was known within her family for bringing back prodigious amounts of clothing when she returned from France?

Created by 842U (talk). Nominated by 842U (talk) at 17:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref OK. However, I think it would be more accurate to quote the hook ref directly:

ALT1: ... that philanthropist Florence Meyer Blumenthal was known by her family for having a "perfect figure" and for "bringing home massive amounts of clothing from Paris"? Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like your suggestion. 842U talk) 21:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 good to go! Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tumburu

... that according to Hindu mythology, the "king of songs" Tumburu (pictured) performed severe austerities to get a horse-face?

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 17:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is not real, the hook should reflect that.

Modified. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Velia caprai

... that the water cricket Velia caprai (pictured) can double its speed by spitting on the water?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Waldron

... that Ann Waldron initially wrote childrens books, then turned to biographies of authors from the South and shifted in her 70s to writing a series of murder mystery novels set at Princeton University?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alma class ironclad

... that the Alma-class ironclads were designed by Henri Dupuy de Lôme as a improved version of the French ironclad Belliqueuse suitable for foreign deployments?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 20:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nigel Gibbs

... that in an attempt to "beef him up", Watford manager Graham Taylor placed a then 17-year-old Nigel Gibbs on a steak and Guinness diet?

ALT1:... that former England under-21 international footballer Nigel Gibbs once sang alongside Elton John on a tour to China?

5x expanded by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion confirmed. AGF for offline hook reference. Alt hook verified. decltype (talk) 17:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Da Nang Port

... that despite its lack of dedicated tourism infrastructure, 12 cruise ships docked at Da Nang Port in January and February 2010 alone, carrying 6,477 passengers?

5x expanded by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 18:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amors Baller

... that the Norwegian teen film Amors Baller will include scenes shot at the 2010 Norway Cup, one of the world's largest football tournaments?

Created by Decltype (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lancken-Granitz dolmens

... that some of the Stone Age Lancken-Granitz dolmens (one pictured) were used until the Bronze Age?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 17:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that one of the Stone Age Lancken-Granitz dolmens (entrance pictured) was used as a shelter by the East German army?

Zhang Jihui

... that Chinese MiG pilot Zhang Jihui was credited for shooting down American Sabre ace George Davis on February 10, 1952 until Russian pilot Mikhail A. Averin disputed the claim 40 years later?

Created by Jim101 (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and hook length verified. Off-line reference accepted in good faith. I've also boldly removed the second "MiG" as it seemed superfluous. Intelligentsock 02:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of Gaborone

... that in the History of Gaborone, the city was attacked by South Africa four times, in 1983, 1985, 1986 and 1988, after being accused of harboring African National Congress terrorists?

Created by Ethansmith (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and online hook refs verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. I also removed some of the extra "in"s from the years in the hook. The hook could be shortened some more by leaving out the years completely. —Bruce1ee^talk 15:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf Point

... that Wolf Point, which was part of the original 58-block 1830 plan of Chicago, was the original social center of the city and is now owned by the Kennedy family?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 14:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yuma Project

... that the Colorado River's first dam and reclamation project suffered through major floods in 1912 and 1916 along with an earthquake in 1940?

Created by --NortyNort (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC) Nominated by--NortyNort (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Australian air marshals

... that in the 89-year history of the Royal Australian Air Force only three people have been promoted to air chief marshal, the service's highest active rank?

Created by Abraham, B.S. (talk). Nominated by Abraham, B.S. (talk) at 09:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changed "eighty-nine" to "89" per MOS. Gatoclass (talk) 11:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uchaishravas

... that Uchchaihshravas (pictured) is declared the king of horses in Hindu mythology?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 07:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified by an on-line in-line ref. I have a couple of minor questions. First, what is the reason for the difference in spelling between the article's title (Uchaishravas) and the hook (Uchchaihshravas)? Second, could you add the publication year to ref no. 1 in the article? Nsk92 (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See talk, Requested move request. Publication yr of on-line version added. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. Entry verified. Good to go. Nsk92 (talk) 16:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of Saint Augustine in Tucson

... that the cast stone façade of Tucson, Arizona's Cathedral of Saint Augustine uses indigenous desert plants as a design motif?

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rivadavia class battleship

... that the Rivadavia-class battleships (pictured) were the subject of a grand competition between France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, and the United States?

Comment: Moved to mainspace today. Many variations of hooks can be made on this theme of diplomatic fights—feel free to propose more. Possible images include File:Argentine Rivadavia Class Battleship 1912.jpg (right) or File:Rivadavia Battleship LOC 14781u.jpg.

5x expanded by The ed17 (talk), Dank (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 05:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of U.S. state minerals, rocks, stones and gemstones

... that Gloria J. Romero is leading a campaign in the California Legislature to remove serpentine (pictured) as the official state rock because it is a source of cancer-causing asbestos?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Note: DYKcheck is erroneously reporting insufficient recent expansion, but expansion was from 429 to 2183 characters, which is a little more than 5x. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tranquil Star

... that Tranquil Star was the only mare to win the double of the Yalumba Stakes and the Cox Plate?

Created by Cgoodwin (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook statement uncited in the article. I might also point out that the Yalumba Stakes only appears to be mentioned in the intro, which is rather odd considering that this is supposed to be a unique double. Gatoclass (talk) 12:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to review the article. I hope that I have now clarified the situation with the name changes, which I should have done previously.Cgoodwin (talk) 07:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Waldron

... that reporting by Martin Waldron showing that expenses for construction of the Florida Turnpike quadrupled from original estimates earned the St. Petersburg Times its first Pulitzer Prize?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Hextall

... that Bryan Hextall of the New York Rangers scored the Stanley Cup-winning goal in 1940, their last championship for 54 years?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 03:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Milk chugging

... that six members of the North Carolina General Assembly compete in milk chugging?

created and nominated by - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. I suggest you add a picture to the nomination. The one of the guy chugging away is best. Dincher (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 13

List of hoards in Britain

... that hoards founds in Britain include over 1,200 Roman coin hoards?

Created by BabelStone (talk), Bubba hotep (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hoards twice in one sentence is a bit repetitious. How about "... that there are over 1,200 hoards in Britain from the Roman period?" It's still a bit bland; if something about the motivation for hoards (ie: buried in times of war or unrest) could be added I think the hook could be made more interesting. Nev1 (talk) 23:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Utina

... that the Northern Utina tribe took the forefront in the Timucua Rebellion of 1665, a revolt by several Timucua tribes against the colonial government of Spanish Florida?

Created by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glyn Pardoe

... that at 15 years and 314 days, Glyn Pardoe was the youngest footballer ever to play for Manchester City when he made his debut in 1962?

5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified. I have a question about the hook. Is Pardoe still the youngest ever player to play for Manchester City? Or was he the youngest ever to play for Manchester City up to that point when he started in 1962? I assume it is the latter but would like to make sure. The sentence in the article "Aged 15 years and 314 days, he became Manchester City's youngest ever player". This sounds slightly ambiguous (as to whether he still holds that record). Nsk92 (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the record still stands. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe then the hook and the corresponding sentence in the article need to be tweaked to make that fact clear. Nsk92 (talk) 19:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Historic Chapels Trust

... that the Historic Chapels Trust preserves 18 redundant churches in England?

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Nominated by Courcelles (talk) at 08:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go. Bencherlite ^Talk 13:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merv Harvey, Ray Harvey, Mick Harvey (umpire)

... that Victorian cricketer Merv Harvey captained his brothers Ray and Neil twice in the same match, and another brother Mick also played for the state?

5x expanded by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Merv isn't actually 5X as I forgot to complete the importing a while ago, but it doesn't take up any more space on the main page to bold it. But unbold if not strictly following the rules kills anythign YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fola La Follette

... that actress and women's suffrage activist Fola La Follette (pictured) also picketed with and spoke on behalf of striking garment workers?

Created by AbbyKelleyite (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is ready to use and the image has a free license. She is the woman in the middle if you want to crop down the image. Royalbroil 03:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tryon D. Lewis

... that Tryon D. Lewis of Odessa was elected in 2008 to the Texas House of Representatives as an ally of Speaker Tom Craddick, who was then toppled by intraparty rival Joe Straus?

... that prior to his legislative service, Texas State Rep. Tryon D. Lewis, as a state district judge, argued that nearly all first-time prison inmates have a violent background?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prix Blumenthal

... that the Prix Blumenthal was a grant given from 1919-1954 to painters, sculptors, decorators, engravers, writers, and musicians?

Created by 842U (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Weir

... that Indigenous Australian artist Barbara Weir was kidnapped as a child, and decades later regularly had to prevent her mother from being kidnapped?

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline ref AGF. Hook is quirky but catchy. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pat Osburn

... that Florida State Senator Wilbur H. Boyd was the father-in-law to professional baseball player Pat Osburn?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest using the Milt May brother-in-law instead of the state senator. He was a good player and has an article.--NortyNort (talk) 08:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Georges Phillipe Trousseau

... that patients of French physician Georges Phillipe Trousseau (pictured) included a Hawaiian King, a Scottish author and a saint?

ALT1:=... that patients of French physician Georges Phillipe Trousseau (pictured) included Hawaiian King Lunalilo, Robert Louis Stevenson and Saint Damien?
Comment: if you want "easter eggs" in the hook or not

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 20:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Benefit for Brandon

... that the Benefit for Brandon wrestling event, presented by Johnny Fabulous, featured foreign objects including a dog collar chain, trash cans, bathroom and kitchen furnishings?

Created by 71.184.34.147 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 20:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 3 does cover the hook but Ref 1 is on Wikipedia's blacklist and it is not in proper format. Verified on good faith. Size, creation and hook verified as well. --NortyNort (talk) 09:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I am unmarking this as checked as in my view there are significant sourcing issues here. The relevant sentence in the article for the hook is "The undercard included a wild match between BTW Dog Collar Champion Mr. T.A. and Sweet Scott Ashworth which saw brawling in the bleachers and both men using the dog collar chain, trash cans, bathroom and kitchen furnishings and other foreign objects as weapons." This sentence does not even have an in-line ref, as required by DYK rules. Instead, there are three refs clustered at the end of the entire paragraph. The rule is quite clear: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable". Also, having a black-listed ref for a DYK entry that will go to the main page is a no go, in my opinion. We can and do AGF a source if the source cited is off-line or in a foreign language. But for DYK we don't AGF the absence of a source cited, just on the belief that the information provided is correct. Again, that may be OK for a regular mainspace article but not for something that will be featured at the main page. Nsk92 (talk) 09:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the unreliable source (livejournal) and moved the reference to be immediately after the fact. Chzz ► 14:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the blacklisted ref is ref no. 1 - www.declarationofindependents.net The spam filter blocks it when you try to take it to the standard on-line ref format. Nsk92 (talk) 15:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paule Marrot

... that Parisian artist Paule Marrot landed a job at Renault developing bright colors for the forthcoming Dauphine after writing the company to say the cars of postwar Paris were uniformly somber?

Created by 842U (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The inline citation contains the original source quote translated into English, along with the French.

Length and date ok, ref is online but in French, xlation provided.Jarhed (talk) 21:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berseba

... that the first diamonds in Namibia were found near the village of Berseba in 1898?

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, and hook verified. decltype (talk) 18:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rock-cut tombs in ancient Israel

... that Jesus was buried in one of the rock-cut tombs in ancient Israel (pictured)?

5x expanded by Broad Wall (talk). Self nom 15:09 14 July 2010 (UTC)

- and rose from the dead! Dincher (talk) 22:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allegedly. Ericoides (talk) 11:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This hook needs to be scrutinized. The reference cited is the Bible, which gives a vague description at best. At the very least, the hook should say "... that, according to the gospels,". Ago lib 19:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that according to the Gospel of Mark, Jesus was buried in one of the rock-cut tombs in ancient Israel? Dincher (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Military Road (Arlington, Virginia)

... that Military Road in Arlington County, Virginia, was built by U.S. Army troops in just three days?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 13:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee production in Brazil

... that Brazil has been the world's largest producer of coffee (pictured) for the last 150 years?

5x expanded by Jonkerz (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length ok, date ok, refs are offline.Jarhed (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1049 5th Avenue

... the luxury apartment building 1049 5th Avenue is not actually on Fifth Avenue?

Created by Jarhed (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... the luxury apartments at 1049 5th Avenue were the highest priced residential apartments ever offered for sale in New York City?

ALT2:... celebrity radio personality Rush Limbaugh sold his luxury apartment at 1049 5th Avenue on July 8, 2010, for a "bit under" $12.95 million?

- I like the first hook the best. Dincher (talk) 01:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Madison Buffalo Jump State Park

... that the buffalo jump at Madison Buffalo Jump State Park in Montana was used for approximately 2000 years by various Native American tribes?

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So says the National Park Service reference, date, article and hook length ok.Jarhed (talk) 20:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clara Claiborne Park

... that Clara Claiborne Park was credited with writing one of the first books to allay the blame that so-called "refrigerator mothers" were made to feel at having caused their child's autism?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting article by the way.Shearonink (talk) 10:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Thétis

... that on 3 July 1877 the French ironclad Thétis rammed her sister ship Reine Blanche who had to be run ashore to prevent her from sinking?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 20:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length of the article OK, length of the hook OK, hook fact verified. Nsk92 (talk) 11:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hill 303 massacre

... that US Army soldiers march to the top of Hill 303 in Korea every year to place flowers commemorating the victims of the Hill 303 massacre of the Korean War?

Created by User:Ed! (talk). Nominated by User:Ed! (talk) at 20:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it's an excellent article and ready for DYK Dincher (talk) 00:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Thorough article for such a new one. I concur with Dincher's nomination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamcuriousblue (talk • contribs) 03:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably this wants to wait until 17 August, the anniversary - or are you going for FA by then? <g> Le Deluge (talk) 21:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Ramasar

... that Amar Ramasar is one of the few Asian American professional ballet dancers nowadays?

5x expanded by User:Bearian (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified (expanded from a redirect). However, there is an issue with verifying the hook fact. The relevant sentence in the article (In the NYC Ballet section of the article) reads "Ramasar is one of the few Asian American professional ballet dancers nowadays." The sentence has two in-line refs. The second one is to here[1] - a discussion forum, certainly does not pass WP:RS, particularly for a DYK entry to be featured at the main page. The first ref is to an article (actually a collection of quotes from several people) in Dance Magazine[2]. This is fine in terms of WP:RS, but after looking through this reference, I could not find a place there which actually directly supports the hook fact. The closest seems to be a quote from David Hochoy. It reads "When I began studying dance in the 1970s I had never seen any Asian dancers and I didn't know if I would have a future in dance. That began to change when I saw the Ailey company and their Asian dancers. When I joined the Martha Graham Company, Martha had a fascination with Asian people...." The quote does not say anything about the state of affairs nowadays and it does not mention Amar Ramasar at all. Did I miss something and was there another quote in this source that addresses the issue directly on point? Nsk92 (talk) 11:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. I will try to find a better cite. If not, oh well.... Bearian (talk) 17:20, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can also always suggest an alt hook... Nsk92 (talk) 17:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I don't know. I have ideas, but they are all politically incorrect. LOL. Bearian (talk) 20:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about: ALT1: " ... that Amar Ramasar, a principal danseur of the New York City Ballet, took his first dance lessons at the Henry Street Settlement House, to which commuted by subway from his home in the South Bronx to the Lower East Side almost daily?" Bearian (talk) 13:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't checked the refs for this one yet, but ALT1 hook is too long, 236 characters, which is above the 200 character limit. Needs to be shortened. Nsk92 (talk) 14:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper theft

... that the States of Maryland and Colorado have laws specifically prohibiting newspaper theft, including the taking of free newspapers, with the intent of preventing another from reading the newspaper?

Created by Iamcuriousblue (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meets criteria. The kind of esoteric article I like seeing at DYK 92.8.253.159 (talk) 00:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Should have logged in! Francium12 00:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graduate tax

... that four of the five candidates currently running to be leader of the British Labour Party have backed a graduate tax as an alternative to tuition fees?

Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 18:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rather less interesting what the Opposition think now that a graduate tax seems to be government policy, or at least heading that way. On the other hand, is this a bit too politically 'hot'? Le Deluge (talk) 00:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I submitted this before Vince Cable made his announcement. alt: that a tax on University graduates is being considered by the Browne Review as a method of financing higher education in the United Kingdom. As for being politically 'hot' as long as a DYK isn't overtly biased I don't see a problem. Francium12 17:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George W. Webber (minister)

... that U.S. Ambassador to South Vietnam Graham Martin held George W. Webber implicitly responsible for a mortar attack that killed 32 South Vietnamese children?

Created by User:Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pass Francium12 16:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Reine Blanche

... that the French ironclad Reine Blanche bombarded the Tunisian port of Sfax during 5–16 July 1881 as part of the French occupation of Tunisia?

Created by User:Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miniopterus zapfei

~~... that the fossil bat Miniopterus zapfei, the second fossil species of Miniopterus, was named after the discoverer of the first one?~~

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 16:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook verified. AGF for offline hook fact. jonkerz ♠ 11:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found out that the hook is in fact wrong (though the source does support it); another fossil Miniopterus was described in 1987. I'll try to think of an alternative hook, though there aren't many interesting things about this species. Ucucha 08:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Henry

... that Louisiana State Representative Cameron Henry in 2010 failed to gain approval of his proposed legislation to abolish his state's office of lieutenant governor?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Matthew McNaughton

... that civil engineer George Matthew McNaughton was involved with the construction of Silent Valley Reservoir (pictured) in Northern Ireland?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 16:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. jonkerz ♠ 10:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steamtown, USA

... that Steamtown, USA was a steam locomotive museum (pictured) that ran excursions out of North Walpole, New Hampshire and Bellows Falls, Vermont from the 1960s until 1983?

Created by Ishtar456 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 15:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook statement is not cited in the article (see DYK rules). —Bruce1ee^talk 05:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On hold until the article is finished. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook refs verified. Nicely done. —Bruce1ee^talk 05:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

350 West Mart Center

... that 350 West Mart Center was owned by the Kennedy family for over twenty years and sits on land that they owned for over fifty years?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very minor MOSNUM suggestion -- change twenty to 20, and fifty to 50.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trett

... that by the early 19th century, trett, an allowance of 4 pounds per 104 of commodities imported to Great Britain for dust, sand, and other waste, had fallen into disuse?

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 13:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 13:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes, Blackpool

... that the Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes in Blackpool, Lancashire, was built as a thanksgiving for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Lancaster being relatively undamaged in the Second World War?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic Republic of the Congo presidential election, 1970

... that in the 1970 presidential election in DR Congo, Joseph Mobuto received more votes than the number of registered voters?

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very hooky. One question -- are we comfortable that the source for the hook statement is an RS?--Epeefleche (talk) 20:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Electoral Institute for the Sustainability of Democracy in Africa is an NGO which sends observers to African elections, and has field offices in several countries, so I'm fairly sure it's reliable. I suggest reading their About page. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 21:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lula 3D

... that Lula 3D used motion capture to create its "Bouncin' Boobs Technology"?

5x expanded by Nomader (talk). Nominated by Nomader (talk) at 08:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion and hook verified. Smartse (talk) 21:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1... that critics found Lula 3D's "Bouncin' Boobs Technology" unrealistic? (I'd love to say they found it "disappointing", but that's maybe a bit OR-ish?) Le Deluge (talk) 08:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental damage of art

... that in 2000, porters at Sotheby's auction accidentally destroyed a box with a painting worth about $157,000 inside?

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 04:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, it sucks to be that porter, "they threw it into a giant crushing machine", haha. Date, length and hook verified. One question though, should not the pound valuation at £100,000 be used instead of the dollar value, since the DKY hook is more British than US? jonkerz ♠ 21:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1... that in 2000, porters at Sotheby's auction accidentally destroyed a box with a painting worth about £100,000 inside?
Thanks. Dollars are better understood around the world, this is not just UK/US difference. Materialscientist (talk) 22:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hans-Joachim Bohlmann

... that Hans-Joachim Bohlmann vandalized more than 50 artworks worth more than 130 million euro?

Comment:

ALT1 ... that Hans-Joachim Bohlmann had vandalized more than 50 artworks worth more than 130 million euro, including Dürer's Paumgartner Altar (fragment pictured)?
ALT2 ... that Hans-Joachim Bohlmann had vandalized more than 50 artworks worth more than 130 million euro, including Dürer's Lamentation for Christ (pictured)?
Double nomination with vandalism of art (below) might not be an optimal solution because of the images. Created by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor point -- would delete "had" in all the above hooks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The only reason to add it was to separate two bolded items. Materialscientist (talk) 22:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. I defer to your good sense.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism of art

... that the most popular tools of art vandals include acid and knife (result pictured)?

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm being stupid or pernickety, but I can't see anywhere in the article where it says that acid and knifes are the most popular tools. I can see that they are maybe the most common, but I think we need a source to say that they are the most popular. Maybe we could take a different approach instead:

ALT1 ... that The Little Mermaid has been repeatedly targeted by art vandals? Smartse (talk) 21:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see what I can do about the reference. For now, I would oppose ALT1, because its fact is well known and is hard to support with a picture, and suggest

ALT2... that a number of famous paintings were cut with a knife during a public exhibition (result pictured)?

Flashblood

... that the newly spreading practice in East Africa of flashblood, injecting oneself with blood of another heroin user to get high, has been called "the most effective way of infecting yourself with HIV"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. Hook needs inline citation. APK whisper in my ear 05:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake has been corrected; a reference for the hook has been added. Alansohn (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. APK whisper in my ear 16:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hope Park

... that George Washington's step-granddaughter Elizabeth Parke Custis married Thomas Law in 1796 at Hope Park plantation in Fairfax County, Virginia?

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: For the sections regarding Hope Park Mill, I borrowed and incorporated text from Hope Park Mill's National Register of Historic Places (NRHP) nomination form.[3] NRHP forms are public domain material, therefore, un-paraphrased text should be treated like text from the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition. --Caponer (talk) 03:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned here, most NRHP forms are prepared by private citizens and therefore, most are not considered public domain. The Hope Park Mill form was prepared by "Elizabeth S. David, Historic Preservation Planner" from the "Fairfax County Office of Comprehensive Planning", so she is not a federal employee. APK whisper in my ear 05:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The NRHP nomination form is a Federal document and record, and there are no copyrights listed on the form. Also, I would like to note that Wikipedia's guidance on NRHP forms usage has no internal citations. Such text would not be accepted in a Wikipedia article, so it probably shouldn't be used as guidance until it meets Wikipedia's own sourcing standards. In the meantime, I've removed the non-paraphrased text in question from the article. The proposed DYK fact did not contain information from the NRHP nomination form. --Caponer (talk) 11:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The form is a federal document, but a federal employee did not write it. See here. APK whisper in my ear 14:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the form were a public domain document, anything you copied from it wouldn't count toward the DYK total, because the 1,500 characters must be your own words. Nyttend (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please rest assured that the non-paraphrased text in question was superfluous and in a section that has since been taken out. The prose of the article that I wrote stands on its own and far exceeds the 1,500 character minimum. The non-paraphrased (but inline cited) text shouldn't have been included in the first place, so I apologize for my misstep. The tribe has spoken and I stand corrected. --Caponer (talk) 23:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Communist Party (Burma)

... that in 1946 the Red Flag Communist Party (flag pictured) initiated a guerrilla insurgency against British rule in Burma?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. APK whisper in my ear 05:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 12

Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani

... that Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani is on death row in Iran for the crime of adultery, and was originally to be executed by stoning?

Created by Patrickneil (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DirectHit

... that DirectHit is the only pharmacodiagnostic test currently available to determine possible treatment outcomes of anticancer chemotherapy drugs for breast cancer recommended for the treatment of breast cancer by the National Comprehensive Cancer Network?

Epxnaded 5x by Wilsonwheatly (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 03:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs to be wikified first, possibly also copyedited for readers with a non-medical background. Hook has no inline citation. Hook too long (255 chars, max 200). The neutrality tag should also go before the article is DYK-ready. Expansion began on July 12, will move the entry there. --Pgallert (talk) 10:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, credit should be given to User:Wilsonwheatly who expanded it 5x, not to Macrakis who created it in 2007.

Ok will do. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1

... that DirectHit is the only accurate pharmacodiagnostic test to determine possible treatment outcomes of anticancer chemotherapy drugs for breast cancer recommended for the treatment of breast cancer by the National Comprehensive Cancer Network?

Operation Truong Cong Dinh

... that Operation Truong Cong Dinh took place in the same vicinity where its namesake conducted riverine guerrilla attacks a century earlier?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Prek Klok I, Battle of Prek Klok II

... that during the Battles of Prek Klok I and II during the Vietnam War, the Viet Cong lost ten times as many dead in total?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:

ALT1 ... that during the Vietnam War Battles of Prek Klok I and II, ten times more Viet Cong were killed as compared to the American forces? Shearonink (talk) 04:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Lam Son II

... that Operation Lam Son II during the Vietnam War was an attempt to combine security sweeps with winning hearts and minds by organizing village fairs?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hudson Utility Coupe

... that the Hudson Utility Coupe could be used "either as a car or a truck" because of the sliding-steel box in its trunk that converted the stylish coupe into a workhorse pickup?

Created by Matengl1101 (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 00:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:

ALT1 ... that the Hudson Utility Coupe could be used "either as a car or a truck"? Shearonink (talk) 13:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. AGF-ing offline reference. Recommend ALT1 hook. Bejinhan Talk 13:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Puracé National Natural Park, Salamanca Island Road Park, Farallones de Cali National Natural Park, Los Nevados National Natural Park, Las Hermosas National Natural Park, Tamá National Natural Park, Rosario and San Bernardo Corals National Natural Park, Munchique National Natural Park

... that there are more than 50 protected natural areas in Colombia, including: Cali, "El mono Hernández", Estoraques (pictured), Hermosas, McBean, Munchique, Nevados, Puracé, Rosario y San Bernardo, Salamanca, Santa Marta, Tamá and Tuparro?

Comment: Ten new and three expanded x 5 (Santa Marta, Nevados and Munchique).

Created/expanded by Jonkerz (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crime and Punishment (play)

... that Crime and Punishment is a stage adaptation of Fyodor Dostoevsky′s classic novel, performed by just three actors, with each playing multiple roles?

Created by Missivonne (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 20:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date (a few hours more than 5 days, if that matters?), length and hook verified. I italicized the second occurrence of Crime and Punishment in the hook per WP:ITALICS, I hope creator/nom don't mind. jonkerz ♠ 00:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hid the redundant second one, piping it to "novel". MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was made live at 19:26, 12 July 2010, and I submitted the DYK at 20:30, 14 July 2010.

I'm happy with the alteration to the tag to pipe the book name. Chzz ► 17:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ruby Brooks

... that Ruby Brooks recorded "Tell Me Pretty Maiden" for Zonophone Records in 1902?

Created by Settlet (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is too short and has no inline citations. See DYK rules. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added inline citations, and made a small addition that puts the article at just over 1500 characters. Many thanks for the help!Settlet (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much better, thanks! Length, date and hook ref verified. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Feather Men

... that in his book The Feather Men, Sir Ranulph Fiennes claimed to have survived a series of assassinations of SAS officers by a hit squad known as "The Clinic"?

Created by Canley (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date length and hook verified. jonkerz ♠ 22:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Award for Best Bluegrass Album

... that in 2010, comedian Steve Martin won the Grammy Award for Best Bluegrass Album for his 2009 album, The Crow: New Songs for the 5-String Banjo?

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 18:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm missing something, ref 18 only shows that the album was nominated, not that it won. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure the best way to present the citations. Currently, each line in the table has a citation for the nominations, and all the winners are cited to the official Grammy website, which is listed under "References" as "General". Can you suggest another way to format the citations? cmadler (talk) 12:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to use the Grammy website, there are many other sites that list Grammy winners, for example Artistdirect lists the 52nd Grammy winners here. I'd suggest putting this ref, or something similar, in the table alongside the existing nominations ref. You should be able to find winner refs for each of the previous years. —Bruce1ee^talk 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the problem with that is that it will add 22 references to the article, which collectively supply no value. I guess I'll go through and add a citation to the Grammy website on each line of the table; at least that way it's only 22 citations to a single reference. cmadler (talk) 15:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. cmadler (talk) 15:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I am reading this after "undoing" the edit recently made by Cmadler. And while I think Cmadler has good intentions, and I appreciate his/her willingness to improve the list, I think the General reference should be enough to verify the DYK hook nominated above. Surely one can go to the Grammy link provided and see that Martin did in fact win the award, as illustrated by the list. While the list is still a work in progress, I hope to find the remaining references needed to complete the table soon so that I can nominate the list for FL status. Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I'd like to say that that would be ok, it doesn't conform to the DYK rules which states that "The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation". I think what Cmadler did here was fine, but failing that another possibility would be to include the hook statement in the body of the article where it can be cited. —Bruce1ee^talk 07:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sefer ha-Temunah

... that using concepts described in Sefer ha-Temunah (pictured) the 13th century Kabbalist Isaac ben Samuel calculated the age of the Universe, a number relatively close to the one estimated by NASA?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very hooky.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:46, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting hook, but at the moment too long: 210 characters, which is above the 200 character limit. Needs to be shortened. Nsk92 (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done--Mbz1 (talk) 19:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks, the length of the hook is OK now. However, I have a question about the hook fact. Is it clear that it was Isaac ben Samuel, rather than other cabbalists, who made the actual age of the universe calculation? If yes, where precisely in the article does it say that? From what I see in the article's text, ben Samuel suggested that one divine year is 365,250 human years. But did he actually multiply that by 42,200 to get the 15 billion year result? Nsk92 (talk) 19:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The required text with the references is added to the article.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. One of the refs used to support the hook fact is ref item 6, (Isibiel Myrna Cohen). I am not clear on what exactly this item is (I mean, what kind of a publication/website/etc this ref is hosted at) and if it passes WP:V/WP:RS. Could you clarify this point? And maybe add some publication data to the ref? Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 20:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added publisher and added two more RS. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but could you please comment here on what exactly is "Yasha Net Library"? I still don't understand it. Nsk92 (talk) 03:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(intended)Yasha Net Library home page, but even if it is not RS in your opinion (ant it is), I added two more sources (one of which is book) to the two that already were there. How many more sources would you like me to add to the hook, if I may ask? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And now I added yet another book source page 9--Mbz1 (talk) 04:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And now I added one more (the 6th! one).--Mbz1 (talk) 04:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was not asking for extra sources (there are enough already), I just wanted an explanation, in your own words, of what kind of a website Yasha Net Library is: who maintains it, what gets posted there and by whom, etc. I did look at their home page, of course, but still could not understand what sort of website this is (I mean: is it maintained by some organization? By an individual enthusiast? By some publication? etc) I am marking this entry as verified. However, please add some publication details to the refs in the article where these details are still missing (there are still a few of those). By the way, it looks like some other editor(s) substantially contributed to the article, apart from the two editors listed in the nom. e.g. Brewcrewer. Should the DYK credits perhaps reflect this? Nsk92 (talk) 05:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well here are differences of what the user Brewcrewer has done. Please do tell me, if you believe the user should be added to the nomination, and I will. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see your point. Before I was just looking at the page history and saw a fairly significant number of edits by Brewcrewer. I did not try to create a diff. However, having seen the diff, I agree that the credits should remain as nominated. Nsk92 (talk) 06:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shia Islam in Netherlands

... that a majority of Shiites residing in the Netherlands are Twelver adherents?

ALT1:... that the earliest settlements of Shiites in the Netherlands dates back to the 1960s?

Created by Humaliwalay (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 14:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1's hook verified. NYC43 (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Madden

... that Scottish actor Richard Madden began his career in 1999 at age 11 when he was cast in both the film Complicity and the BBC television series Barmy Aunt Boomerang?

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Yes... its currently at AFD, but I exect a quick "keep" since it went through a 74x expansion during its improvement from a six-word, unsourced stub, to what it is now.Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AFD withdrawn. Article ready for DYK evaluation. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 16:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like it.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Montcalm

... that the French ironclad Montcalm captured the Prussian barque Union in 1870 during the Franco-Prussian War?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 02:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Warship captures sailing ship" is not exactly a rivetting piece of info. I think a better hook could be found, for example, that as a central battery ironclad she was an improvement on her predecessor. Gatoclass (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or alternatively (if you want to stick with the essence of the original hook):

ALT1: - that the only action seen by the French ironclad Montcalm during the Franco-Prussian War was the capture of a German barque? Gatoclass (talk) 15:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cunningham Drug (U.S.)

... that the U.S. Justice Department tried to cite the merger of Detroit-based chains Cunningham Drug and Kinsel Drug as a violation of the Clayton Antitrust Act?

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 01:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. Hook ref accepted in good faith due to pay wall. APK whisper in my ear 05:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funspot Family Fun Center

... that the American Classic Arcade Museum (pictured) located at Funspot has been called "the Louvre of the '8-bit' world."?

5x expanded by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified. Good to go. Nsk92 (talk) 16:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1949 Khait earthquake

... that the largest landslide triggered by the 1949 Khait earthquake, the Yasman valley flowslide, had a volume of 245 Mm³ and killed about 4,000 people?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. APK whisper in my ear 06:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Jeanne d'Arc

... that the French ironclad Jeanne d'Arc (model pictured) was part of a squadron of French ships that attempted to blockade Prussian ports in the Baltic Sea in 1870 during the Franco-Prussian War?

Expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified, image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 15:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Monarch (1747)

... that Admiral Sir John Byng was executed by firing squad (pictured) on the quarterdeck of HMS Monarch?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Interesting hook IMO. The image tags look complicated, and I'm not sure whether the image will be allowable on the main page. Gatoclass (talk) 15:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Herschel Telescope

... that at first light in 1987, the William Herschel Telescope (pictured) was the third largest single optical telescope in the world, and is still the second largest in Europe?

Comment: The bit about Europe could be removed if the blurb is too long

5x expanded by Modest Genius (talk). Nominated by Modest Genius (talk) at 19:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone's struggling to find verification, the relevant articles are available on http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/wht_info/whtarticles.html (I've now added the relevant URLs to the references). Modest Genius ^talk 13:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Atalante

... that after the French ironclad Atalante was condemned in Saigon in 1887, she fell into such a state of disrepair that "she foundered one night and gradually sank into the mud"?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 19:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 15:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook includes a number of easy-to-address grammatical errors that bear correction before the hook is displayed on the main page. Would suggest that "at Saigon" be changed to "in Saigon", that "that she" be changed to "she", and that the word "so" be deleted.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need anyone's permission to fix grammatical issues here. Gatoclass (talk) 01:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I've made some alterations myself. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just so I understand, when I have such thoughts do you think it best to: a) made the suggestions (I thought that the most civil approach); b) suggest an ALT; or c) change the hook itself (with a note, presumably)? I had thought that if I went with c, that would be a bit heavy-handed if the nom were to disagree with the edit.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it's only a grammatical error, by all means fix it yourself. I fix grammatical errors all the time. If you make a more substantial change, yes I think it's courteous to at least leave a note. I can't really tell you when it's more appropriate to suggest an alt rather than make a change to an existing hook, that's a matter of judgement, but if in doubt I would say suggest an alt. Gatoclass (talk) 11:25, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Norah Neilson Gray

... ~~that one of the Glasgow Girls on show this month is Norah Neilson Gray (pictured)?~~

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've verified this but I think the hook is a little misleading given that it's the artist's work on display rather than the artist herself. Also, I'm not sure why you haven't used the image, it's a very nice painting. Gatoclass (talk) 15:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your perusal. I'm happy to make a change Gatoclass (or have one made for me). I think "Picasso is on show this month" would be OK.... Anyway! how about the longer hook below (I will add the image in case its useful).

... ~~that Norah Neilson Gray (pictured), one of the artists known as the Glasgow Girls, has work on show this month?~~

How about ...

ALT2: - ~~that an exhibition of works by Norah Neilson Gray (self-portrait pictured), one of the Glasgow Girls, is on display this month?~~ Gatoclass (talk) 16:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: - that an exhibition of the work of the Glasgow Girls including Norah Neilson Gray (self-portrait pictured) is on display this month?

The exhibition is of the Glasgow Girls not of Gray per se. Victuallers (talk) 18:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 looks good, let's go with that one. This is a possible lead candidate due to the very nice image. Gatoclass (talk) 06:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that would be good - I chose her because she is unusual in having an article on wikipedias in other languages but not (until now) in English Victuallers (talk) 10:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miniopterus brachytragos, Miniopterus aelleni, Miniopterus manavi, Miniopterus griveaudi, and Miniopterus mahafaliensis

... that Miniopterus brachytragos is one of five species recently believed to encompass the bat species Miniopterus manavi?

Created by Ucucha (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 18:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the nomination. I also recently made the article on Miniopterus aelleni and am preparing articles on the other pieces of M. manavi, so this can be a double to quintuple hook. I was thinking of a hook like:

... that recent molecular and morphological research has led to the identification of five species within the Malagasy bat species Miniopterus manavi—M. aelleni, M. brachytragos, M. griveaudi, M. mahafaliensis, and M. manavi itself?

Three of the articles have yet to be written; I'm hoping to do that today or tomorrow. Ucucha 18:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the article Miniopterus griveaudi, but it still needs a lot more expansion. Also, Miniopterus manavi, which is at Manavi Long-fingered Bat, needs to be expanded five-fold or more, if it is going to be one of the hooked articles. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 19:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry; I know that needs to be done (as I indicated in my previous post), and will do it. Ucucha 19:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okey-doke! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warning, It's Dirty

... that "Warning, It's Dirty" is the highest-rated episode of Two and a Half Men since the episode "David Copperfield Slipped Me a Roofie"?

Created by Therealdavo2 (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 18:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All the urls are bare.--Pink Bull 00:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bare urls fixed. Length, date and hook length also verified. But I wonder about "highest-rated episode", isn't that a little bit dubious? jonkerz ♠ 22:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that with 16.33 million American viewers, "Warning, It's Dirty" is the highest-rated episode of Two and a half Men since "David Copperfield Slipped Me a Roofie", which had 16.52 million viewers?

Better? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lactarius rufulus

About a dozen brownish-red mushrooms growing in leaf litter, some have been pulled out to show the gills on the underside of the cap.

... that the rufous candy cap mushroom (pictured) has been used by San Francisco Bay Area chefs in various desserts?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go as usual. Smartse (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rose Van Thyn

... that Rose Van Thyn, a survivor of Auschwitz and Ravensbrueck, became a leading figure in Holocaust education in her adopted city of Shreveport, Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready Dincher (talk) 00:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James Pym

... that Private James Pym won the Medal of Honor for, under heavy fire, carrying water to wounded soldiers during the Battle of Little Bighorn?

Created by 72.74.223.117 (talk). Nominated by Gosox5555 (talk) at 16:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1... that Private James Pym won the Medal of Honor for carrying water to wounded soldiers while under heavy fire during the Battle of Little Bighorn? (changed wording) --Pink Bull 01:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 is ready to go. NYC43 (talk) 20:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lactarius affinis, Lactarius alnicola, Lactarius argillaceifolius, Lactarius aspideoides, Lactarius deceptivus, Lactarius fallax, Lactarius fumosus, Lactarius pubescens, Lactarius repraesentaneus, Lactarius subflammeus, Lactarius torminosus

Collection of orange milk caps on forest floor covered in pine needles

... that "milkcaps" can be orange (pictured), bright yellow, golden, woolly, downy, northern, sticky, smoky, velvety, deceptive, or vulgar?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is marvelous! Date, length checks out for all. Note to administrator: The nominator deserves a 5x expansion credit for Lactarius torminosus; all the rest are creation credits. Good to go! Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

mBio

... that mBio is the newest journal published by the American Society for Microbiology?

Created by Robbya12 (talk). Self nom at 15:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't see this entry as suitable for DYK. Almost everything in the article (including the hook fact) that is related to the journal itself is sourced to Asm.org (the website of the American Society for Microbiology), i.e. to non-independent sources in relation to the journal. This applies to ref itsems 1-3, 9, 11, 12, 15-18. Also, ref no. 4[4] is a re-post to a general access website, by a registered user on that site, of an interview taken from asm.org. So not an independent source either. All other refs cited in the article do not mention the journal but are cited for other reasons (e.g. as general sources on open access policies by government funding agencies). I don't think this is an acceptable situation for an article to be featured at the main page. I am an academic myself and I have a soft spot for articles for academic journals. In fact, I have long argued that the situation with the way academic journals are covered by sources is a good illustration why WP:N is not sufficient and why specialized notability guidelines are necessary. Still, Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals) was rejected as a proposed guideline, and given that, I think we have to go by WP:N, at least for various main page featured entries. I am certainly not advocating deletion of this article, but I do not believe it is appropriate for DYK, at least not in the present form of the article. Nsk92 (talk) 17:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would welcome additional input from other DYK reviewers. Nsk92 (talk) 17:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Corman

... that Randy Corman said juvenile car thieves "should not look at incarceration like summer camp", after an incident where a juvenile sought arrest hoping to be incarcerated together with his friends?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geyuan Temple

... that Geyuan Temple's Wenshu Hall is the earliest extant wooden building dating from 966 CE during China's Liao Dynasty?

Created by Zeus1234 (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cave of the Negroes incident

... that a cave in Okinawa is called the Cave of the Negroes because three US Marines were killed by villagers and their bodies dumped in the cave?

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the article's content raises some red flags. Are the article's sources mainstream?--brew crewer (yada, yada) 19:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TIME magazine, New York Times about as main stream as you can get. Dower's book, Embracing Defeat, was described by The New York Times as "magisterial and beautifully written"[2], the book won the 2000 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction,[3] the 1999 National Book Award,[4] the 2000 Bancroft Prize,[5] the Mark Lynton History Prize and the 1999 Los Angeles Times Book Prize.-- Esemono (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The online NYT article verifies the hook, and also gives the identity of the marines. Wouldn't the hook make more sense if it said "... because three African-American US Marines were killed ..." decltype (talk) 21:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a hook, it's supposed to be vague and make people click the link to find out more information. If we gave away all the info in the hook it wouldn't be called a hook. -- Esemono (talk) 00:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Longworth Roman Catholic Chapel

... that between the Reformation, when it became redundant, and the mid-19th century, when it was restored, Longworth Chapel in Herefordshire was used for cider making?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Anglo

...in 1942 only two men returned from Operation Anglo, the raid on the island of Rhodes by the Special Boat Section?

. x 5 expansion and self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:56, 12 July 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Henry Ciccarone

... that after Henry Ciccarone called his 1979 squad "the greatest Johns Hopkins lacrosse team ever", Sports Illustrated wrote, "It might be easier to name the most beautiful Miss America"?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 09:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook fact verified. Nice hook! Yoninah (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Garrett Rivas

... that Garrett Rivas is the all-time leading scorer in Michigan Wolverines football history?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 06:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Google Personalized Search

... that Google Personalized Search, a feature of Google Search, returns search results based on previous search queries made by the same person, and which results they clicked on?

Created by Gary King (talk). Nominated by Gary King (talk) at 06:07, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inderjit Singh (politician)

... that Inderjit Singh, member of the Parliament of Singapore, started six businesses?

Created by Pectore (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. jonkerz ♠ 11:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dusky Robin

... that the Dusky Robin was known as "Stump Robin" by early settlers in Tasmania due to its penchant for perching on fenceposts and stumps?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 05:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and size of expansion verified, as well as the hook ref. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oak Circle Historic District

... that the Oak Circle Historic District was the first historic district to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places in Wilmette, Illinois?

Created by TheCatalyst31 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline ref AGF. Fixed link in hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William R. Callahan

... that though dismissed as a priest by the Jesuits for supporting the ordination of women, William R. Callahan insisted he was just "following the example of Jesus, who was never willing to shut up"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date of the article verified, hook length verified. I have a little bit of an issue with the hook fact. The source[5] makes it clear that he was expelled from the Jesuit order but in fact remained a priest (i.e. was not defrocked). The current wording of the hook, "dismissed as a priest by the Jesuits" could be read to mean that Jesuits de-frocked him. I suggest a more careful wording, e.g. "though expelled from the Jesuit order for supporting ..." Nsk92 (talk) 13:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about

ALT1: ... that although he was expelled by the Jesuit order for supporting the ordination of women, William R. Callahan insisted he was just "following the example of Jesus, who was never willing to shut up"?

per suggestion, Alansohn (talk) 15:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. ALT1 hook verified, everything else is in order. Nsk92 (talk) 15:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maurice Cook

... that Fulham player Maurice Cook scored the first ever goal in the Football League Cup?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that association footballer Maurice Cook scored the first ever goal in the Football League Cup, for Fulham Football Club? WFC (talk) 03:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I prefer the snappier first one. Maybe trim the lead picture? Thanks Victuallers (talk) 08:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'll do that today~~ Done. Now that I think of it though, could this possibly be held for 9 August? That's when the first game of the 2010–11 Football League Cup kicks off. WFC (talk) 03:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Indy Japan 300

... that 2007 Indy Japan 300, an IndyCar Series motor race held on April 21, 2007, was uniquely held at Twin Ring Motegi, a non-American location?

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 02:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that the 2007 Indy Japan 300 IndyCar Series motor race was the lone event in the 2007 season to take place in a non-American location? Giants2008 (talk) at 02:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT2:... that the 2007 Indy Japan 300 IndyCar Series motor race was the only event in the 2007 season held outside the United States? Le Deluge (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Armide

... that the French ironclad Armide served as the flagship of the French Levant Squadron in 1874–75?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 02:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 11

Interurban Press

... that Interurban Press, a publisher of books about streetcars and railways from 1943 to 1993, originated as a mimeographed newsletter sent to American railfans in military service during World War II?

Created by SJ Morg (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length of the article OK, length of the hook at 199 characters is OK. I have a question about the hook fact. Is it possible to put an in-line ref on the first sentence in the article? That sentence could be used to support the first part of the hook ("that Interurban Press was a publisher of books about streetcars and railways from 1943 to 1993"). Otherwise I am having a little trouble verifying the first part of the hook, since the relevant data is located in several different places in the article. Nsk92 (talk) 17:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that the first non-electric railway book published by Interurban Press was Seattle Trolley Coaches, in 1971?

ALT2 ... that Interurban Press, a small publisher of books about streetcars, publishes at least six books per year, eight to ten "in a good year"?

Jim Adams (lacrosse)

... that Army lacrosse coach Jim Adams fielded 33 different players against Duke in 1958, to prevent running up the score, but his team still won 21–2?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 06:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Mill and Depot Building, Hawthorne Woolen Mill

... that no train ever stopped at the depot built for the Hawthorne Mill (pictured) in Greenwich, Connecticut, because the planned rail line was never built?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 18:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari

... that "Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari" was the first release by the Japanese J-pop music group Supercell to feature a human singer?

Created by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Babe Siebert

... that Hockey Hall of Famer Babe Siebert drowned in Lake Huron before he could take up a new role as coach of the Montreal Canadiens in 1939?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 03:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't ask me why, but DYKcheck doesn't seem to be reading this article right. It was at 1001 characters when I started, and over 5400 now. Reso lute 03:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook and sources check out. 5x expansion has been verified. It was great to read the original 1939 Montreal Gazette article online. Alansohn (talk) 03:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. I wish more papers were archived in that way. A diamond mine for pre-internet biographies! Reso lute 03:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Justin McIsaac

... that professional wrestler Justin McIsaac lost his official retirement match following the birth of his first child?

Created by 72.74.196.58 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 22:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Alma

... that French ironclad Alma blockaded the Prussian corvettes Hertha and Medusa in the Japanese port of Yokohama during the Franco-Prussian War of 1870–71?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any plans to create articles for the two redlinks?--Pink Bull 01:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does not matter: per rule C1, no redlinks are allowed in the hook. Nsk92 (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stord Sunnhordland FK

... that after soccer club Stord Sunnhordland FK was discontinued, the chairman of the owners called it "a club without soul"?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James Cant Ranch Historic District

... that the National Park Service purchased the historic James Cant Ranch (pictured) in 1975 and uses the ranch complex as a cultural museum within the John Day Fossil Beds National Monument

Comment: Hook source is on p. 51 of Cant Ranch culture resource report published by the National Park Service

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 21:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Codex Boreelianus

... that only a few manuscripts have fallen into such unworthy hands as Codex Boreelianus (pictured)?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wormrot

... that Wormrot, a Singaporean grindcore band, was formed right after its founding members have completed their mandatory two years of National Service?

Created by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that Earache got Wormrot in January 2010?
ALT2:... that Earache got Wormrot after an illegal act?
Unfortunately ALT2 is on the limits of verifiability (label owner's blog mentions Mediafire but not explicitly that it was an illegal download) but it would be nice if you can get a WP:RS for it. Le Deluge (talk) 22:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to add the word Abuse in the ALT2?--Canniba loki 23:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT3:... that illegal Abuse led Earache to get Wormrot?
- ALT4:... that Wormrot promoted Abuse among Europeans? Le Deluge (talk) 04:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added a source so we can use the ALT2.--Canniba loki 19:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Obrera

... that there is a monument in Colonia Obrera, Mexico City to the seamstresses who died here during the 1985 Mexico City earthquake?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have a (relatively minor) issue with verifying the hook fact. The sentence in the article referring to the hook fact is this one: "All that is left to remind of the factory is a small empty lot with a bronze statue of a woman sewing to commemorate the event." The sentence does not have a footnote. The immediately preceding sentence and the immediately following sentence each have footnotes to sources in Spanish. Which one of them mentions the statue? I assume it is likely ref item 4, correct? Could you add a footnoted ref to the statue sentence? Or maybe just move up the footnote from the immediately following sentence. Nsk92 (talk) 06:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, its #4. I doubled the citation.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. Everything is verified. Nsk92 (talk) 06:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Burma Trade Union Congress

... that the All Burma Trade Union Congress was banned in the wake of the March 1948 crack-down on the Communist Party of Burma?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Looks all ready to go.Pectore^talk 05:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

G-AEUH

... that Captain Aub Koch of G-AEUH, a Qantas airliner shot down by Japanese fighter planes in 1942, also survived being shot down in 1943?

Created by Grant65 (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

International Federation of Trade Unions

... that in spite of hesitations due to the growing influence of Nazism in Germany, the International Federation of Trade Unions moved its headquarters to Berlin in 1931?

5x expanded by Soman (talk), Rjensen (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 18:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kirby Company

... that door-to-door salesmen sold two $1,500 Kirby vacuum cleaners to a woman with Alzheimers living in a mobile home?

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 18:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Not created within 5 days or expanded 5 fold recently.~~ CTJF83 chat 18:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I count: 8498 / 1690 = 5.02840237. Savidan 01:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is fine from a 5x standpoint. I hate to nitpick, but the hook implies that the woman had Alzheimer's when she was cajoled into buying two of the vacuum cleaners, while the statement in the article is that "a deceased woman living alone in a mobile home on $1000/month in Social Security payments and suffering from Alzheimers was discovered to own two Kirby vacuum cleaners", which means she could, hypothetically, have purchased them while she still was competent or could have acquired them as gifts. There is plenty of hook-worthy material to be mined in this article, and I hate to be so particular, but the source for the hook (and most of the article) from The Wall Street Journal is unavailable online and I can't verify that the wording of the original hook is accurate. Alansohn (talk) 03:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to be a pain, but on July 4, my count was 4,964 characters. CTJF83 chat 04:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This was the version of the article when I started working on it. It would be particularly perverse if an article could be eliminated from DYK consideration simply because it once contained a high volume of unsourced garbage. As for the Alzheimers woman, the WSJ article is unequivocal that she had Alzheimers when she purchased the vacuums (which was not long before her death), and in a not very tongue in cheek way, implies that she simply forgot about the first purchase when she bought the second one. I am open to any other hooks. I am happy to send the WSJ article to anyone who emails me using the "email this user" feature for verification. Savidan 14:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being a pain. :) CTJF83 chat 15:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit of a tricky one as the article was shortened by Dmries just before Savidan started expanding it. Assuming no overt collaboration between the two, I think we can AGF that it's mere coincidence that this occurred and therefore calculate the count from Dmries' last edit.

The article is quite negative about the company but seems to be reasonably well sourced. I'd be inclined to promote, anyone else have an opinion? Gatoclass (talk) 12:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alanngorsuaq

... that Alanngorsuaq, a mountain in Greenland, has reservoirs providing 882,000 m³ of water?

Created by Algkalv (talk). Nominated by Minimac (talk) at 18:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fort Defiance State Park

... that Fort Defiance in Iowa was built to protect a gristmill and sawmill during the Dakota War of 1862?

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook verified. jonkerz ♠ 00:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Main

... that Hugh Main, an Australian politician, was a member of the Progressive Party's rural "True Blues" faction that evolved into the Country Party?

Created by Rebecca (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 17:00, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Krauss-Maffei Transurban

... that Krauss-Maffei's Transurban automated guideway transit system used a maglev for suspension, linear electric motor for propulsion, and allowed the cars to be connected together automatically into longer trains?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baynard's Castle

... that Baynard's Castle was a Norman castle in central London?

ALT1:... that two British monarchs took the crown at Baynard's Castle, a medieval palace in central London?
ALT2:... that fragments of Baynard's Castle, a Norman castle and medieval palace in London, survived until the 19th century?

5x expanded by Le Deluge (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bibi-Heybat Mosque

... that the Bibi-Heybat Mosque (pictured) is known as the Mosque of Fatima in Alexandre Dumas' The World book?

Created/expanded by --NovaSkola 13:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC). Nominated by --NovaSkola 13:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I suggest another fact:

... that the historical Bibi-Heybat Mosque near Baku, Azerbaijan, (pictured), destroyed in 1936 as result of the Soviet anti-religious campaign, was rebuilt in 1994 at the same location after the country gained independence? Grandmaster 19:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

President’s Management Council

... that although originally proposed by President Bill Clinton, the President’s Management Council has existed in various forms since the Reagan administration?

Created by Ripper777 (talk), SPat (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How then "originally"?--Wetman (talk) 14:22, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the hook contradicts itself. Also, it might be a good idea to add 'U.S.' ahead of President Bill Clinton. --Soman (talk) 19:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that although established by U.S. President Bill Clinton, the President’s Management Council has existed in various forms since the Reagan administration? SPat ^talk 23:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 is still self-contradictory. "Formally established" might work, assuming that's an accurate reflection of the sources. Gatoclass (talk) 13:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Smolensky Cemetery

... that Smolensky Cemetery in St. Petersburg contained the graves of mathematician Leonhard Euler and Ukraine's national poet Taras Shevchenko?

Created by Ghirlandajo (talk). Nominated by Ghirlandajo (talk) at 11:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline refs AGF. A question about the hook: The cemetery used to contain Taras Shevchenko but still does contain Leonhard Euler. Perhaps you could list 2 people who were reinterred somewhere else, or 2 people who are still interred there? Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, both Shevchenko and Euler were reburied, so I think the hook is Ok. --Ghirla^-трёп- 21:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, hook is good to go! Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C. J. Stevens

... that Maine author C. J. Stevens amazed many of his readers by revealing that gold nuggets can be found by panning certain rivers?

5x expanded by--Epeefleche (talk) 10:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that the United States Library of Congress contains a special collection of the works of Maine author C. J. Stevens?
Delinked title. Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a great expansion, but only 2x. Before you started it was 1437 characters; today the article (excluding lists and infobox) stands at 2856 characters. Yoninah (talk) 10:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that it now meets the 5x expansion requirement. Let me know if you disagree. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does, and admirably so. Good to go! (I leave it to the administrator to choose the original hook or ALT1 — both are good.) Yoninah (talk) 20:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prefer original hook.--brew crewer (yada, yada) 19:46, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sarama

... that Sarama, the bitch of the gods, is described in Hindu mythology to snatch human foetuses from the womb?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 10:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that Sarama is a bitch who snatches human foetuses from the womb?

* ALT3:... that Sarama is a bitch - in Hindu mythology - who snatches human foetuses from the womb?

ALT2:... that Sarama is a bitch who performs abortions?
Keep it snappy, the less information you give the more likely people are to be intrigued and click through to the article. OK, ALT2 is perhaps a step too far, but it would certainly get attention! Le Deluge (talk) 14:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT1, accurate, yet snappy. I found nothing that explicitly uses the word abortion. With abortion, I fear the sin of WP:OR may be committed. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 15:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I like the facts here but I think the word "bitch" should be replaced by "pregnant dog" to avoid the misconception that this nomination was an act of vandalsim. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 20:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But "bitch" is a gazillion times more hooky than "pregnant dog". It's a victory for the vandals if they force us to stop using ordinary English words. Le Deluge (talk) 04:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bitch does not mean pregnant dog. The primary meaning of bitch is female dog, which is accurate, encyclopaedic and used in scholarly literature, as well as will attract eyeballs (the DYK hits), may be vandals too. The references in Sarama use the word bitch. Dog-Books like The Book of the Bitch: A Complete Guide to Understanding and Caring for Bitches use the word "bitch" for female dogs. Also, Wikipedia is not censored. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Social graph

... that the largest social graph, which represents the relationships between online users, is owned by Facebook, the world's largest social networking service?

Created by Gary King (talk). Nominated by Gary King (talk) at 07:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook source verified. Good to go! Yoninah (talk) 21:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Deburau

... that the nineteenth-century mime Charles Deburau, son of the illustrious Jean Gaspard (the "Baptiste" of the film Children of Paradise), played before adoring audiences in the French provinces—but found little success in Paris?

Created by Beebuk (talk). Nominated by Beebuk (talk) at 06:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Howard (lacrosse)

... that John Howard explained his failed attempt at establishing a new sport at DePauw University by saying, "Either I'm a lousy teacher or kids in Indiana just didn't like lacrosse"?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 06:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 15:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suite, Op. 14 (Bartók)

... that Bartók's Suite, Op. 14 originally featured five movements, but Bartók discarded the second movement before publication?

Created by La Pianista (talk). Nominated by La Pianista (talk) at 06:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AGF verified. Tweaked hook to avoid repetition. Gatoclass (talk) 15:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laurel Run Dam

... that the Laurel Run Dam, an earthen embankment dam that failed during the 1977 Johnstown flood, caused a total of US$5.3 million in damages?

Created by NortyNort (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 04:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready --Dincher (talk) 00:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that the Laurel Run Dam, an earthen embankment dam that failed during the 1977 Johnstown flood, killed 40 people in downstream Tanneryville? —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 04:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 2: ... that the Laurel Run Dam, which failed during the 1977 Johnstown flood, released over 100 million gallons of water into downstream Tanneryville during the night, killing 40? --NortyNort (talk) 06:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Takayutpi

... that Takayutpi, who reigned from 1526 to 1539, was the last sovereign king of Hanthawaddy Pegu?

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 04:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 10

Oil shale in Belarus

... that Belarus contains large, but undeveloped reserves of oil shale?

Created by Óðinn (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ceratobasidium

... that species in the fungal genus Ceratobasidium cause economically important plant diseases such as sharp eyespot of cereals and black rot of coffee?

Created by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 17:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline ref AGF. However, I don't understand whether "sharp eyespot" and "black rot" are generic terms or proper nouns. In the article, they are capitalized; here, they are lowercase. Yoninah (talk) 15:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Furious (47)

... that the British aircraft carrier HMS Furious left her berth next to the battleship Royal Oak in Scapa Flow the day before Royal Oak was sunk by the German submarine U-47?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Van Goethem

... that countertenor Patrick Van Goethem has taken part in the project Dieterich Buxtehude – Opera Omnia to record the complete works of Dieterich Buxtehude?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is under 1500 characters. Yoninah (talk) 15:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Better now? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oksana Grigorieva

... that prior to releasing her first EP, a song by singer-songwriter Oksana Grigorieva was featured on the Josh Groban album Awake?

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requiem (Reger)

... that the Requiem of Max Reger is a musical setting not of the Latin Requiem, but of a poem Requiem written by the dramatist Friedrich Hebbel?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Hook ref AGF. Good to go! Yoninah (talk) 19:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A picture of the autograph was added by Michael Bednarek.

Shrewsbury Hoard

... that the Shrewsbury Hoard (pictured) was the first item found by an amateur metal detectorist, and contained around 10,000 bronze Roman coins?

Created by BabelStone (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 20:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length of the article verified. However, I have a bit of an issue with the hook text. The way the hook reads now, it could be interpreted to mean that this was the first treasure ever to be found by any amateur metal detectorist. The article really says, of course, that it was the first item that this particular amateur metal detectorist, Nick Davies. The hook needs to be clarified to avoid possible confusion. One possibility is to simply drop "the first item" from the hook (and maybe add a year). Nsk92 (talk) 05:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, see what you mean, I'd like to keep "the first item" in though as that seems to be the interesting part to me. How about adding the name instead? Smartse (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that the first find by the amateur metal detectorist, Nick Davies, was the Shrewsbury Hoard (pictured) which contained around 10,000 bronze Roman coins? Smartse (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. ALT1 verified. Nsk92 (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co.

... that in NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., the U.S. Supreme Court recognized the right to boycott peacefully?

Created by Cdogsimmons (talk). Nominated by Cdogsimmons (talk) at 21:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline ref AGF. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles-Amable Lenoir

... that Charles-Amable Lenoir won the Prix de Rome twice and was awarded the Légion d'honneur?

Created by VernoWhitney (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that Charles-Amable Lenoir received a bronze medal at the 1900 World's Fair for a painting of his wife (pictured)?

Date, length, ALT1 hook fact verified. I prefer ALT1 because it's "hookier" and goes with the picture of the painting. Yoninah (talk) 15:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chet D. Traylor

... that Chet D. Traylor, a former Louisiana Supreme Court justice, has entered the 2010 Republican primary to challenge U.S. Senator David Vitter?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that in his early years, former Louisiana Supreme Court associate justice Chet D. Traylor was a military, state police, and state governmental investigator?

ALT2:... that in 2000 Louisiana Supreme Court Associate Justice Chet D. Traylor wrote the legal opinion upholding his state's anti-sodomy law?

Chinese immigration to Mexico

... that from the 1880s to the early 1930s there was a significant Chinese immigrant population in Mexico?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready Dincher (talk) 00:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Street of the Prophets

. . . that Theodor Herzl's historic 1898 meeting with German emperor Wilhelm II took place in an empty lot on Jerusalem's Street of the Prophets?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 23:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length of the article OK, length of the hook OK. As I understand it, the sentence in the article supporting the hook fact is this one: "During Wilhelm's visit to Jerusalem, he and his entourage were quartered in a tent camp on the then-empty lot." This sentence does not have a footnoted ref. Could you add one, please? Nsk92 (talk) 21:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I put the ref one sentence before. Unfortunately, that ref quotes the wrong year (1882, which is impossible because Herzl's first visit to Palestine was in 1898), so I added another ref which gives the correct date. Yoninah (talk) 21:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but now we do have a problem. The source used to support the hook fact (about the meeting in the partking lot) cites a different date from the one mentioned in the hook. Even if the source is incorrect, and there is another one which give the right date, I am not comfortable with this situation, for an entry that will go to the main page. I think that either a different source needs to be used as a citation for the parking lot bit, or one needs a different hook, supported by references that don't contradict one another. Nsk92 (talk) 22:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One possible way to deal with this issue is to drop the mention of the year from the hook. This would somewhat depreciate the hook but would avoid the conflicting references problem. Nsk92 (talk) 05:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I spend so much time researching (and touring) this street, and I picked such a flimsy hook fact. I rewrote the section about the empty lot to reflect each source. Soon I hope to visit the Herzl Museum in Mamilla to see if I can find yet another source. In the meantime, I'd like to propose this simple and verified-by-all alt hook:

ALT1: ... that Jerusalem's Street of the Prophets was originally called "Street of the Hospitals" and "Street of the Consuls"? Yoninah (talk) 08:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. ALT1 verified. Nsk92 (talk) 09:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French ironclad Belliqueuse

... that the French ironclad Belliqueuse was the first French ironclad to sail around the world in 1866–69?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that a comma be inserted after "world". Without the comma, the meaning of the hook changes. Rather dramatically.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested alt:

ALT1: - that in 1869, Belliqueuse became the first French ironclad to complete an around-the-world voyage? Gatoclass (talk) 16:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having taken a closer look at this, the text in the article is a bit ambiguous, as it states that the ship was the first "to do so" without clearly specifying what the "so" was. I suggest it be altered to "complete such a circumnavigation" for clarity. Gatoclass (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

H. N. Goshal

... that Burmese communist leader H. N. Goshal was executed in an inner-party purge in 1967, after having been denounced as "Burma's Liu Shaoqi"?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Al Heagy

... that Al Heagy, National Lacrosse Hall of Fame inductee and Maryland head coach, also served as a university professor and the mayor of University Park, Maryland during his coaching tenure?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 22:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph C. Burger

... that the Ribbon Creek incident at U.S. Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island resulted in the relief "without prejudice" of Major General Joseph C. Burger?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 22:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvia Salvesen

... that Sylvia Salvesen testified at the Hamburg Ravensbrück Trials in 1946?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook AGF. However, the hook doesn't tell us who the subject is. What do you think about this:

ALT1: ... that Sylvia Salvesen, a member of Oslo's high society, testified in 1946 about her experiences as a prisoner at the Ravensbrück concentration camp? Yoninah (talk) 21:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing and improving the hook. I agree that your suggestion (ALT1) is better, with link to the Ravensbrück article, in addition to the trials article. Oceanh (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 good to go! Yoninah (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add her birthdate from Norsk Fangeleksikon? Geschichte (talk) 10:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Hay (ice hockey)

... that Hockey Hall of Fame forward George Hay scored the first goal in the history of the Chicago Blackhawks in 1926?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 21:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date OK. Offline ref AGF. Good to go! Yoninah (talk) 10:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice Ride Minnesota

... that Minneapolis' bicycle sharing system Nice Ride Minnesota served over 10,000 trips in its first month?

Created by MakeBelieveMonster (talk). Nominated by MakeBelieveMonster (talk) at 18:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. (Not usual to credit Flickr photos on article - click through will reveal credit) Victuallers (talk) 08:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Umberslade Baptist Church

... that the redundant Umberslade Baptist Church (pictured) near Hockley Heath, Solihull, West Midlands is the sole survivor among grand chapels associated with the rise of Birmingham Nonconformity?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Basically everything looks good: date and length of the article verified, length of the hook OK. I have one minor quip. The sentence in the article, supporting the hook fact (2nd sentence in the "Present day" section) does not have an in-line ref. There is an in-line ref in the subsequent sentence, and that ref does support the hook. However, for the sake of DYK protocol, and because the sentence supporting the hook is actually a quote, I think it needs an in-line ref at the end of the sentence (to ref no. 2). Could you add one please? Nsk92 (talk) 18:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. Entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 18:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ithonidae

... that along with Polystoechotidae, Ithonidae (fossil pictured) are regarded as the most primitive living members of Neuroptera?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 17:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Way too much Latin. The word "Lacewing" should get a mention somewhere. And probably best to drop Polystoechotidae and reword with "among the most primitive"? Le Deluge (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that along with the giant lacewings, members of the family Ithonidae (fossil pictured) regarded as the most primitive living Neuroptera?
I included the "common" name for Polystoechotidae and reworded, I did not sub lacewing in for Neuroptera as the order contains several families that are not known as lacewings, for example antlions.--Kev min § 07:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, if it's the most primitive out of (lacewings + antlions) then it's also the most primitive out of (lacewings) alone. At least Neuroptera is a vaguely familiar word to biologists if not the general public (who probably only have a dim idea of what lacewings are, let alone the Latin name), so I'm not completely against it. However I would use the common name of Ithonidae, that is allowed for species articles. Honestly, every Latin word you use will cut your readership in half, this is a general audience you're trying to interest. Thus :
ALT2... that along with the giant lacewings, the moth lacewing family (fossil pictured) are regarded as the most primitive living Neuroptera?
ALT3... that moth lacewings (fossil pictured) are regarded as among the most primitive living Neuroptera?

Treaties of Cölln and Mewe

... that by the Treaties of Cölln and Mewe, the Teutonic Order first pawned, then sold, Neumark to Brandenburg to pay its mercenaries?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 17:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Hook refs AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R. V. Truitt

... that R. V. Truitt was a World War I fighter pilot, studied Chesapeake Bay oysters for 30 years, married a governor's daughter, and was inducted into the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 16:40, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:Maybe choose two things? IMO Its a lot to check and I suggest you leave something for the article to reveal? Victuallers (talk) 08:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the only thing interesting about the hook (and I admit it isn't very, unfortunately), is that they are several accomplishments in completely unrelated fields. This reference (current reference #1) sources three of the four: WWI pursuit (fighter) pilot, governor's daughter, and Lacrosse Hall of Fame, while this one (current reference #5) sources the "three decades" researching oysters. Certainly not married to the above hook, though, and would listen to any more interesting alternatives. Strikehold (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scott C. Despres

... that, in 2010, American professional wrestler Scott C. Despres twice defeated Antonio Thomas in the space of a month?

Comment: Hook fact is right at the bottom- the last paragraph of Scott C. Despres#Recent years (2009–present) just to save you from reading all the way through! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by 72.74.211.93 (talk). Nominated by HJ Mitchell (talk) at 15:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Adoration of the Shepherds (Mantegna)

... that it has been suggested that the shepherds in Mantegna's The Adoration of the Shepherds (pictured) are facing Joseph rather than Jesus?

Created by Attilios (talk). Nominated by StAnselm (talk) at 08:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook, online reference and creation verified. --NortyNort (talk) 13:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hudson County Community College

... that Anthony Amoroso, winner on Iron Chef America and Executive Chef at SeaBlue at The Borgata, received his culinary education at a community college?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portion of article was plagiarized and character count was around 600, now ~3400. Also, I am not sure if this is a good hook, as it makes it sound as though it is odd for someone to be successful out of a community college, when this can be quite the contrary from what I've seen, I just can't think of anything better at this point. Any suggestions or alternatives are highly welcomed :) - Theornamentalist (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No comment on the article, but that problem with the hook could be solved by just saying "received his culinary education at Hudson County Community College". Melchoir (talk) 07:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Anthony Amoroso, winner on Iron Chef America and Executive Chef at SeaBlue at The Borgata, received his culinary education at Hudson County Community College? - Theornamentalist (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that the Mouth that Roared was vice-president of Hudson County Community College?
ALT3 ... that before the Mouth that Roared was mayor of Jersey City, he was vice-president of Hudson County Community College?
ALT4 ... that Hudson County Community College housed the winner of Iron Chef America and the Mouth that Roared? - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J. Woodland Hastings

... that "Woody" Hastings (pictured) was one of the founders of circadian biology (circadian rhythms)?

Created by Photeros (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 07:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 9

Miroslav Tichý

... that Miroslav Tichý is a photographer who took thousands of surreptitious pictures of women in his hometown of Kyjov in the Czech Republic, using homemade cameras constructed of cardboard tubes, tin cans and other at-hand materials?

Created by CliffC (talk). Nominated by CliffC (talk) at 22:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Olympic medalists in volleyball

... that the United States men's volleyball team won the gold medal at the 1984 Olympics, after not competing at the three previous Games?

5x expanded by Courcelles (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NB: They didn't qualify for 1972 or 1976, and the U.S. boycotted the 1980 Games. Courcelles (talk) 23:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne (criminal psychopath)

... that American murderer and sex offender Wayne is the only criminal with psychopathy to appear publicly on national television to discuss his background and crimes?

Created by LunaChangue (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 18:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is cited by sources 2 and 3. Im not sure about source number two as it is not from a site directly related to the interview. Source 3 is a link to another Wikipedia page. Thelmadatter (talk) 20:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Shepherd (artist)

... that George Shepherd painted a watercolour of Aldermaston (pictured) in 1819?

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Nominated by Senra (talk) at 10:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment See also my apology to the original author Mattgirling (talk · contribs) --Senra (talk) 14:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook should appear in the prose of the article and should be followed by an inline citation. I suggest either adding this sentence into the article or choosing another hook. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 14:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hook sentence added --Senra (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 that George Shepherd was one of the founding members of what is now the Royal Institute of Painters in Water Colours?

I've tweaked ALT1. Offline ref accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 14:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Four Price

... that the Amarillo attorney and Republican politician nicknamed Four Price is the fourth generation in his family to bear the name Walter Thomas Price?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing citations. Please put into sections and maybe a lead....Thelmadatter (talk) 01:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections madeBilly Hathorn (talk) 01:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much better but can you get a non-first party source for the hook? No reason for the guy to lie about his name on his webpage but personal web pages arent considered reliable in general.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

, article deleted. --Soman (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remy Hamilton

... that Remy Hamilton established the current Big Ten Conference single-season record for successful field goals at 25 during the 1994 NCAA Division I-A football season?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt hook, pending referencing)... that Remy Hamilton the following records: single-season field goals in the Big Ten Conference, career points in the Arena Football League (AFL), single-season kick scoring in the AFL?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified (actually, it's a 12x expansion!). Date OK. However, I can't find the hook fact in the ref. You say it's on p. 40 — can you link directly to that page? Yoninah (talk) 19:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is here. I think I am going to have to go back and relink about 25 pages.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Loyalty

… that, although many others had written about it, until the work of Josiah Royce philosophers had by and large not addressed the idea of loyalty?
Me again. NuclearWarfare suggested that I type the "l" word one more time. How do you feel about a DYK from an article that Jimbo nominated for deletion? Uncle G (talk) 06:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New ALT for better flow:

ALT1: ... that, although many others had written about it, it was not until the work of the philosopher Josiah Royce that the idea of loyalty was addressed at large? --NortyNort (talk) 13:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not quite correct, though. First: "at large" is not the same as "by and large". And second: It was addressed before Royce, just not by philosophers. Rephrasing's not a problem; but changing the sense to something that isn't what the article actually says, is. Uncle G (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conference of Youth and Students of Southeast Asia Fighting for Freedom and Independence

... that it has often been claimed that the 1948 Southeast Asian Youth Conference, held in Calcutta, marked the starting point for various armed communist insurgencies in different Asian countries?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the year for better flow but the DYK hook is stronger than that in the article. The article uses "It has often been claimed that..." and the hook here used a firm "marked". Very interesting article on a very interesting and often overlooked topic.--NortyNort (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. However, I don't understand the question. "It has often been claimed that..." also appears in the hook here. --Soman (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanford Biggers

... that Sanford Biggers is an artist that has been presented internationally at Tate Modern in London, Prospect 1 in New Orleans and the Whitney Biennial, the Kitchen and Performa 07 (curated by Roselee Goldberg) in New York?

Created by Bon1vers (talk). Nominated by Gosox5555 (talk) at 23:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to modify hook, it seems a bit awkward. ^~Gosox⁽⁵⁵⁾₍₅₅₎ 23:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References are bare URLs (see rule D3). Normally, if there were just a few, I would fix them myself, but there are 25 of them. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:38, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot about that rule, and I don't have time this week to fix it up. I withdraw the nom, I suppose, unless someone else wants to fix it. ^~Gosox⁽⁵⁵⁾₍₅₅₎ 00:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went to the page to begin fixing the refs, and I was surprised to see that they were already taken care of. A gold star goes to Materialscientist

for cleaning them up. The length and date are also fine, but the hook, at 222 characters, is too long. I've suggested a possible alt below. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the work of American artist Sanford Biggers has been characterized by meditation and improvisation?

Quantum rotor model

... that the quantum rotor model can be used to describe superconducting Josephson junction arrays?

Created by SPat (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A few issues here. The prose section is barely over the 1500 character minimum limit. Needs to be expanded a bit, IMO. The sentence in the article supporting the hook fact currently lacks an in-line ref. I also think the current proposed hook is too technical for the general audience (and I say this even though I myself am a professional mathematician). Most people will have had no idea what superconducting Josephson junction arrays are, so they won't really know what to think upon seeing this hook. I think that a hook whose meaning is more accessible to the general audience is needed here. Nsk92 (talk) 06:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not just the hook, the article itself is too technical for the main page. Materialscientist (talk) 06:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, after looking at the article again, I tend to agree. I think the entry should probably be declined on those grounds. Nsk92 (talk) 07:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Let me get this straight: just because the article is quite technical, it is being kept from the main page? I agree that most readers do not know about spin models and other ideas dealing with quantum systems, but isn't that the point of a DYK? To increase knowledge? I mean most people don't know "... that Jeffrey A. Warsh proposed banning the use of photo radar systems, calling them an 'assault on the system of American jurisprudence' that would replace 'the tradition that we are innocent until proven guilty'" (above) either. I believe that simply because of this article's technicality and distance from the reader that it should be added. Perhaps we might educate a few in the process? --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is so technical that most readers (and this includes even the specialists), will not understand anything in it, even if they do read it. Nsk92 (talk) 03:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
@Dudemanfellabra: please do try educating, not few, the more the better. It is not that difficult, you just got to explain things, which is what good science reviews do. Materialscientist (talk) 04:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just remembered that I myself got a DYK for a rather technical article, Dehn function, back in November 2008. A different user (not myself) nominated that one, and at the time I was not particularly familiar with DYK rules. Still, I feel somewhat hypocritical here, so I'll abstain from further discussion of this entry and let more experienced DYK reviewers sort out what to do here. Nsk92 (talk) 09:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late response, I have limited internet access this week. I agree that the article is quite technical, but I think it can be rewritten to emphasize some key understandable parts. Also we have a precedent of accepting technical articles (bumblebee models was on DYK a few weeks ago). If it can help, an alternative:

ALT1: ... that although elementary quantum rotors do not exist in nature, they can be used to model low energy states in systems of close coupled electrons? SPat ^talk 04:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With all my sympathy, I should say that "some other article passed and thus mine should" is not a valid argument. I remain against featuring this article. Materialscientist (talk) 09:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not taking a position on this, but we have promoted a lot of highly technical articles before, for example those submitted by SpinningSpark on electronic devices. Gatoclass (talk) 12:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know and don't have a hard stand here, but we've got to start improving. Overly technical articles are not viewed and thus are taking place in the DYK slots from others. Spark's articles were on average more layman friendly (and some topics like electronics/astronomy are more widely understood than quantum mechanics). Materialscientist (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid Spark's articles were just as incomprehensible to me as this one :) I really don't mind either way, I just think it's important we have a consistent approach. Gatoclass (talk) 06:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pierino Gelmini

... that Italy's Pierino Gelmini remained a respected member of the Roman Catholic priesthood despite his four years in prison in the 1970s?

Created by Zloyvolsheb (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...but last month he indicted for sexual abuse. I suggest tying in his 1970s imprisonment with the 2010 indictment in order to show how he was still respected in that gap. Suggested ALT below, I also added a Wikilink.--NortyNort (talk) 12:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that between the Italian priest Pierino Gelmini's imprisonment in the 1970s and indictment in 2010, he remained a respected member of the Roman Catholic priesthood?

Stephen A. Mikulak

... that in the wake of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Stephen A. Mikulak proposed a bill signed into law that would impose the death penalty for terrorists who kill anyone in New Jersey?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length of the article verified, length of the hook OK, hook fact verified. Basically looks fine, although I must admit that I am struggling a bit with the grammar in "a bill signed into law that would impose ..." Is there perhaps a slightly smoother way to say this? Perhaps a native English speaker (which I am not) could see if some minor copyediting of the hook is appropriate at the promotion stage. Nsk92 (talk) 20:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess the more exact way would be to say that he proposed a bill that passed both houses of the New Jersey Legislature and was signed into law by the Governor of New Jersey. I just don't know how to fit that under the 200-character limit. The wording I used indicates that he was the sponsor of the legislation and that his proposal became the law of the land in the Garden State. I would appreciate any alternate wording for the hook. Alansohn (talk) 22:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I was rather thinking of a really minor tweak, e.g. something like "a bill, later signed into law, that would impose ..." (although this would make the hook 202 characters, so something else would have to be trimmed then) or maybe "a bill, later signed into law, to impose ..." Nsk92 (talk) 04:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- "sponsored" is the usual term, rather than "proposed". Members of U.S. legistatures sponsor bills. So if you want to improve this, find out the name of the Act that the bill became, and say that Mikulak "sponsored the XYZ Act that imposed". (Note "imposed", not "would impose". It did, after all, impose the penalty.) Uncle G (talk) 07:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Why not just "sponsored a bill that imposed the death penalty for...."? We're meant to be giving people a taste of the article, not tripping over the details.Le Deluge (talk) 15:21, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert S. Lancaster

... that Robert S. Lancaster created the website Stop Sylvia Browne.com because he "found her work with missing children to be incredibly offensive"?

Created by Krelnik (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 19:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT hook: ... that in July, 2009, Robert S. Lancaster received the first annual Citizen Skeptic Award from the James Randi Educational Foundation for his work as a skeptic?
- It should be noted that Lancaster's website has moved, and I would prefer to provide more context with respect to the original hook. How about ALT2: ... that Robert S. Lancaster created the website StopSylvia.com because he found Sylvia Browne's claims of psychic knowledge about missing children to be "incredibly offensive"? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 20:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Leaning

... that footballer Andy Leaning was named man of the match following York City's 3–1 extra time defeat at Liverpool in the FA Cup fifth round in 1986, with his performance being described as "heroic"?

Created by Mattythewhite (talk). Self nom at 18:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

214 character hook. Little Mountain 5 20:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened. Now 197 characters. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

KANUKOKA

... that KANUKOKA is an association of the municipalities of Greenland?

Created by Algkalv (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is too short for the moment. Without translational phrases (like Kalaallisut: Kalaallit Nunaanni Kommunit Kattuffiannit, Danish: De Grønlandske Kommuners Landsforening), which IMO do not count towards the prose, I am getting something like 1409 symbols for the prose length. I should also say that the proposed hook is not what I would call interesting. Could you propose something a little more exciting as a hook? Nsk92 (talk) 09:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what do you find interesting. Nintendo, Pythagoras's theorem. Fun.. ? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 09:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I mean something with a little more information than just the sterile and bland definition, something that at least slightly piques the readers' interest and makes them actually want to look up the article corresponding to this entry. Nsk92 (talk) 09:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- In any event, the article length issue needs to be fixed first, in order for the entry to be DYK eligible. Nsk92 (talk) 10:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the hook could be something about municipal amalgamations—like the fact that there were 18 municipalities in 1972 and only 4 today (those are some big honkin' municipalities). It should be fairly simple to integrate facts from Administrative divisions of Greenland into this article and mention them in the hook. For instance, you could do something like this: --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 16:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1: ... that KANUKOKA is an association that facilitates cooperation between the four municipalities of Greenland—including the largest and the second largest municipalities in the world by area?

I like ALT1 hook - certainly qualifies as "interesting" in my book -:) I also see that the article has been expanded in the meantime and is now over 2000 characters of prose, so length of the article is OK. However, I did not see anything in the current text of the article about two largest in the world municipalities. That information would have to be added, with a ref, for ALT1 hook to be approved. Nsk92 (talk) 16:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be incorrect. KANUKOKA doesn't regroup the municipalities, it's (still independent, but only for so long) coordinating organ. They had little say in the municipal reform, and as the refs in the article suggest, the carpet is being swept from under their feet, with the municipalities trying to actually get rid of it as a useless bureaucracy ;) Just thought I would clarify... — Algkalv (talk) 22:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since Algkalv created this article, I'd certainly go by his opinion regarding regroup - the wording would have to be changed. There is also a sourcing problem. A sentence supporting the hook has been added to the article. The bit regarding Sermersooq being 2nd largest municipality in the world is supplied with in-line ref no. 7[6]. I looked through this ref and I don't see anything there about the area of Sermersooq. Nsk92 (talk) 10:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added source from sermersooq.gl. I don't know where the discrepancy comes from, so I'll follow their website. Anyway, size or any detail related to municipalities themselves is a bit off-topic for KANUKOKA as such... — Algkalv (talk) 12:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked ALT1 hook to use the language from the article. And yeah, the area of the municipalities may not be strictly relevant to the organization, but as a "useless bureaucracy" i doubt that there are very many interesting, relevant details about it anyway ;) Anyway, if there are any better, more relevant points we can sure do an ALT2, but ALT1 is what i could come up with off the top of my head. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 13:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I wrote that article to fill a glaring gap in the coverage of Greenland. And... I fully agree that the topic is dry as dust, apart from the funky acronym ;) — Algkalv (talk) 13:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

lol. no worries, it's a good effort. I've worked for organizations like these, so I know how boring they can be ;) --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 13:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, ALT1 (slightly modified as above) is verified. Nsk92 (talk) 15:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should probably be "... that the KANUKOKA association..." or just "... that KANUKOKA...". IMO "... that KANUKOKA association..." just sounds wrong, besides which, the article uses just "KANUKOKA" as a name and the hook as is makes it sound like "KANUKOKA association" is the organization's name. If your intent is to point out that KANUKOKA is an association for clarity, then how about "... that KANUKOKA is an association that facilitates..." --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 15:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Adjusted to .. that KANUKOKA is an association that facilitates..." Nsk92 (talk) 15:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! GJ. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 15:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nils Rosén von Rosenstein

... that Swedish physician Nils Rosén von Rosenstein was professor of botanica at the Uppsala University before he switched with Carl Linnaeus, who taught anatomy and pathology at the same university?

ALT1:... that Swedish physician Nils Rosén von Rosenstein is considered to be the founder of modern pediatrics with his 1764 book The diseases of children, and their remedies?

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't "teached" be replaced with "taught"?--Pink Bull 15:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, corrected above (damn those exceptions ;-) ) Fram (talk) 06:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A few issues I see immediately: Does Blunt actually claim that Rosén was born on the island of Gotland, as the current article text says and the referencing seem to imply? And what is the point of saying that he "studied in Sweden", when he was Swedish to begin with? And does Blunt really claim that Rosén studied in Harderwijk in 1727, again implied by the text and following reference? (BTW, I started a short stub on his son Nils von Rosenstein just to get the name right, will expand eventually.) --Hegvald (talk) 09:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll go and have a look, I have tried to follow the references but I may have misinterpreted them (e.g. on his studies they were quite hard to follow, he has been everywhere and with everyone but exactly when and where isn't always so clear). I have tried in my two DYK hooks to stay with the more clearly sourced and described elements, and to avoid the more ambiguous ones (did Linnaeus really try to run him through with his sword? Some sources say so, but a firm conclusion is hard to find). Fram (talk) 06:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my mistake, I mixed Gotland with Götaland apparently, since I can't find the source again which made that error for me. I also removed the "in Sweden", which wasn't incorect but absolutely not needed either. Finally, I clarified that he studied abroad between 1727 and 1731, with his stay in Harderwijk in 1730. I hope the article is a bit clearer now, if there are more things unclear (or more poor English), please let me know or feel free to correct it. Fram (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My (implied) objections have been met. You might consider looking at Swedish sources if you intend to do any further work on the subject. According to Svenskt biografiskt lexikon, he was probably born in Blidsberg parish (with a note that no book of birth records is extant for the parish and period) in Älvsborg County (Västra Götaland County is an anachronism, as it was established only in 1998). As for Harderwijk, it doesn't appear to have been a place where foreign students studied, only one where they went to defend dissertations already written somewhere else. Linnaeus did the same thing and neither of them seems to have spent more than a week there. Wikipedia actually has an article on the now long-defunct University of Harderwijk. --Hegvald (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I don't speak any Swedish, that's why I stayed with English language sources. It is indeed quite possible that he only defended his work at Harderwijk and didn't really study there at all, but I was only able to verify that he was there in late 1730 and perhaps early 1731, so I tried to keep the text non-committal about this. Any improvements you or anyone else can make are obviously always welcome. Fram (talk) 13:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SS Invicta (1939)

... that the Landing Ship, Infantry HMS Invicta took part in Operation Jubilee and Operation Overlord?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 12:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that the passenger ferry SS Invicta was considered to be a Class 99 locomotive by British Rail?

I'd really prefer this to be the used hook, but it is currently unreferenced (conflict between what is common knowledge and having the source to hand to verify it, assistance in supplying ref requested at WT:UKRail). Mjroots (talk) 12:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We can't use an uncited hook. Are you asking to have this one held over to give you a chance to find a reference? Gatoclass (talk) 15:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying that if we can get a cite for ALT 1, then use that instead of the other hook. If we can't get a cite, then go with what we can verify. Mjroots (talk) 17:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, well let us know when you have found a cite, or given up looking, and someone will verify this. Gatoclass (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can we go with the original hook please? Mjroots (talk) 18:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prayopavesa

... that Hinduism allows voluntary death for a person who has no desire or ambition left and no responsibilities remaining in life; by fasting to death known as Prayopavesa?

5x expanded by Arjun024 (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article, there are other conditions as well, such as announcing it publicly and planning it in advance. Perhaps the part of the hook that says "who has no desire or ambition left and no responsibilities remaining in life" should be replaced with "under certain conditions"?--Pink Bull 15:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is too short with 999 characters of prose (bulleted lists don't count). Please expand to at least 1,500. Thanks, Little Mountain 5 20:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

oops i guess i was vague! Another editor has de-bulleted stuff. Have a look at it now. Sorry, i haven't got the time to expand it now. Thanks for considering. Have a look at the ALT below. If it ain't convincing, considering the nom being dropped. Arjun^codename024 11:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that Hinduism allows voluntary death for a person who has no desire or ambition left and no responsibilities remaining in life by fasting to death, and the privilege to end the life of those affected by terminal disease or great disability; known as Prayopavesa? Arjun^codename024 11:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I got interested in the topic, and I expanded the article after reading some external sources. It's well beyond 1500 characters now. Thanks AngChenrui (talk) 12:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 8

Fowler's match

... that the 1910 Eton v Harrow cricket match is known as Fowler's match due to the outstanding all round performance by Robert Fowler, the captain of Eton College?

Created by Testing times (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Written for the centenary of this match on 8 and 9 July. I'm not sure if the expansion of Robert Fowler (cricketer) would also qualify for a double header. -- Testing times (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Fowler does not qualify as a 5x expansion, since it was expanded only 2x. As for Fowler's match, date, length and hook ref are OK. The hook is good, but what do you think about making it better:

ALT1: ... that The Spectator says the 1910 Eton v Harrow cricket match — known as Fowler's match for the stellar performance of Eton captain Robert Fowler — "might be the greatest cricket match of all time"?

ALT2: ... that the 1910 Eton v Harrow cricket match — known as Fowler's match for the all-round performance of Eton captain Robert Fowler — has been called "what might be the greatest cricket match of all time"? Yoninah (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 is getting there - I'd be tempted to drop the reason why it's called Fowler's match, let people go to the article to find that out. Actually, how about :

ALT3... that Fowler's match in 1910 "might be the greatest cricket match of all time"? Le Deluge (talk) 09:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4... that Fowler's match, between schoolboys in 1910, "might be the greatest cricket match of all time"? Le Deluge (talk) 09:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5 ... that the 1910 cricket match between Eton College and Harrow School "might be the greatest cricket match of all time"? AngChenrui (talk) 12:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Britons will know that Eton v Harrow is "special" in all sorts of ways, so the hook is hookier if you don't mention them by name. Conversely, the idea that some random schoolboys produced the greatest match ever does make it hookier, so (my!) ALT4 is my favourite so far. Le Deluge (talk) 13:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a non-Briton, I prefer AngChenrui's ALT5. Yoninah (talk) 14:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1992 Michigan Wolverines football team

... that the 1992 Michigan Wolverines football team won the fifth consecutive Big Ten Conference championship for Michigan Wolverines football?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

4th Proposal Another merger, this time for the years 1991, 1992 and 2003. Hook is below:

... the Michigan Wolverines football team's Big Ten Conference involvement includes five consecutive championships (till 1992), a game attendance record in 2003 and notably, 17 player awards in 1991? AngChenrui (talk) 10:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Those subjects are way too different and don't really go together. They also eliminate some of the best individual hooks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1991 Michigan Wolverines football team

... that the 1991 Michigan Wolverines football team was led by Heisman Trophy-winner Desmond Howard, Butkus Award-winner Erick Anderson and national passing efficiency statistical champion Elvis Grbac?

~~5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)~~ [reply]

4th Proposal See here. AngChenrui (talk) 10:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2003 Michigan Wolverines football team

~~... that the 2003 Michigan Wolverines football team hosted the Michigan – Ohio State football rivalry, which set the Big Ten Conference single-game attendance record?~~

~~5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)~~ [reply]

4th Proposal See here. AngChenrui (talk) 10:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1999 Michigan Wolverines football team

~~... that the 1999 Michigan Wolverines football team featured Tom Brady?~~
~~5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:51, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~(ALT1):... that the 1999 Michigan Wolverines football team featured 2007 NFL MVP and Athlete of the Year Tom Brady? AngChenrui (talk) 11:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]~~

(ALT2):... that the 1999 Michigan Wolverines football team, featuring 2007 NFL MVP and Athlete of the Year Tom Brady, holds the all-time NCAA single-season attendance record.?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3rd Proposal See here. AngChenrui (talk) 10:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1993 Michigan Wolverines football team

~~... that the 1993 Michigan Wolverines football team featured the Big Ten Conference leading defense and the conference scoring champion, Tyrone Wheatley?~~

~~5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)~~ [reply]

3rd Proposal See here. AngChenrui (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Michigan Wolverines football team

~~... that the 2004 Michigan Wolverines football team featured both the Big Ten Conference rushing champion, Mike Hart and receiving champion, Braylon Edwards?~~

~~5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:19, 11 July 2010 (UTC)~~ [reply]

3rd Proposal See here. AngChenrui (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2002 Michigan Wolverines football team

... that the 2002 Michigan Wolverines football team featured John Navarre who broke almost all of the school's passing records set by Jim Harbaugh, Elvis Grbac and Tom Brady?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3rd Proposal, a merger once again. Merging hooks for the years 1993, 1999, 2002 and 2004. The proposed hook is shown below:

... the Michigan Wolverines football team's stars include scoring champion Tyrone Wheatley (1993), NFL MVP Tom Brady (1999 team), record-holder John Navarre (2002) and rushing champion Mike Hart (2004)? AngChenrui (talk) 10:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I understand the goal of merging these hooks, this is a very artificial combination. That is, this takes 4 different facts from 4 different articles and tries to put them together. In addition, this combination loses too much context ("scoring champion Tyrone Wheatley"? "record-holder John Navarre"? "rushing champion Mike Hart"?) and adding adequate explanation back in would make this quad hook too long. cmadler (talk) 00:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point. I've come up with an alternate hook that I believe flows better, here it goes:

... the Michigan Wolverines football team's many high-achievers include Tyrone Wheatley in 1993, Mike Hart in 2004, records-holder John Navarre of 2002 and eventual NFL MVP Tom Brady of the 1999 team? AngChenrui (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Better, but "records-holder" is too vague, besides which he is no longer a record-holder; Chad Henne surpassed most or all of Navarre's records in 2007. cmadler (talk) 11:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, let's use records breaker instead. "..., records breaker John Navarre ..." Agree? AngChenrui (talk) 11:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this merger is so good. 1999 ALT2 would probably generate a lot of clickthroughs. This is mashing together unrelated teams.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I get your point on the 1999 one. But as for the 1993 and 2004 (and prob 2002) teams, do you agree that merging the hooks would have a greater net impact? We can keep 1999 as a separate nomination. Shall we also get more opinions? I feel that consecutively publishing hooks of such similarity might have a jading effect on viewers. AngChenrui (talk) 13:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can tolerate the rest being grouped together, but 1999 should be separate.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William E. Ward House

... that Ward's Castle (pictured) on the state line between Rye Brook, New York, and Greenwich, Connecticut, is believed to be the first reinforced concrete building in the United States?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't locate the hook in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look now. Daniel Case (talk) 22:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better now, but unfortunately my version of Java has started generating signature errors, so until I sort that out, maybe someone else could verify this one. Gatoclass (talk) 14:06, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified hook [7][8]. - Station1 (talk) 03:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Query whether the hook might be stronger if it were revised to reflect ... believed by whom?--Epeefleche (talk) 05:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We can't add every possible detail to a hook. Readers can find out the details by reading the article. Gatoclass (talk) 15:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not "every possible detail". It is a main basic element of the hook. Wikipedia abhors sentences that are deficient in this regard. That is why we have a specific template ^{[by whom?]} to flag phrases such as this one that are flawed in this manner.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK hooks are not governed by the same rules that apply to article content. A hook is merely a teaser to get someone interested enough to click on the article. If we were going to apply content rules to DYK hooks, we would have to start adding citations directly to hooks, which would hardly be appropriate. Gatoclass (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that some rules would make no sense -- such as citations. Many other rules, however, do make sense. And we apply them all the time on this page. This is one that IMHO makes sense. And I see it has come up on this page again in another context at this time as well.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The prime directive of a hook is that it be hooky - that is, it is short and eye-catching and so motivates people to click on the link to read more. The more info you add to a hook, the less hooky it becomes. As long as the question "by whom?" is answered in the article itself, there is no breach of policy. Think of a hook as a headline in a newspaper article - you don't expect to get every detail in the headline, it's just there to draw your attention to a particular story. Gatoclass (talk) 11:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hooks are not meant to be articles they are headlines or ... hooks? - they do not require referencing etc etc. IMHO ...let reviewers review, don't review reviewers Victuallers (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How would you apply your view to the use of "X was the most famous Z"? Which is a current issue, on this page, in another string. (As to the point about the prime purpose being to be "hooky", that of course is balanced by other purposes of wp, such as verifiability, blp, etc ... it is not where we conclude our analysis, but it is an important factor that is balanced against others).--Epeefleche (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Based on this source, "believed to be" can be eliminated from the hook, making the issue moot, at least in this case. Station1 (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have incorporated this into the intro. Can we call this resolved? Daniel Case (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ROH The Big Bang!

... that a professional wrestler broke his leg at Ring of Honor's pay-per-view, The Big Bang!, but was still able to win his match?

ALT1:... that professional wrestler Christopher Daniels returned to Ring of Honor for the first time in nearly three years at The Big Bang! to challenge Davey Richards?
ALT2:... that the Internet-only pay-per-view The Big Bang! was Ring of Honor's debut show in Charlotte, North Carolina?

5x expanded by NiciVampireHeart (talk). Self nom at 05:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3... that a man broke his leg during The Big Bang!?
ALT4... that internet users could pay to watch The Big Bang!? Le Deluge (talk) 08:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly recommend that you move the nomination to the April Fool's Main Page DYK nominations page. If phrased correctly, it would be guffaw-y to all viewers. The link to the April Fool's Main Page DYK nominations page is here. What do you think? AngChenrui (talk) 08:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If you like - I'm not quite happy with ALT4 as to include the exclamation mark you really need the article title at the end of the sentence, and the grammar gets a bit convoluted. I'd regard it as a "reserve" 1 April article just because the subject is a bit lightweight, but if people want to it, that's fine by me.Le Deluge (talk) 09:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did you write ALT4? If you didn't, someone must have suggested it and linked it to you. Might want to correct that. AngChenrui (talk) 09:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity - I wrote ALT3 and ALT4. But given the time constraint, I wanted to get a pointer to the direction the hook could take, even if I'm not clever enough to work out wording that I'm completely happy with yet. And given my involvement, I don't think I should decide about 1 April. But if it gets moved there and then we find we have a surplus and it gets moved back, that's fine by me. Le Deluge (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As for whether this should be moved to the April Fool's DYKs, I think I shall leave it to the next reviewer(s) of the nomination to decide. AngChenrui (talk) 09:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sherman White (basketball)

~~... that Sherman White was banned from ever playing in the NBA due to his involvement in a point shaving scandal in college?~~

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- nice article. It's ready. Dincher (talk) 00:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above hook was removed from Queue 2 due to negative BLP concerns, and it was restored here in case a more acceptable alternate hook may be substituted. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

18 July, seventh Sunday after Trinity

Ärgre dich, o Seele, nicht, BWV 186

... that Bach composed in Leipzig his cantata Ärgre dich, o Seele, nicht, BWV 186 for the seventh Sunday after Trinity expanding his cantata written in Weimar for Advent?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

— Rlevse • Talk • 14:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

25 July, eighth Sunday after Trinity

Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136

... that Bach may have reused earlier music for his cantata Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136 for the eighth Sunday after Trinity of 1723?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]