Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User names

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NickPenguin

NickPenguin (talk · contribs)

may be for "The penguins of Madagascar" at Nick. ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 12:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If a name needs an explanation to make people see how it might be a violation, it usually isn't a problem. (Exceptions exist for names that might be insulting in foreign languages, but this is English.) Allow. Soap 12:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious allow. –xenotalk 12:37, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Autobot

Hi everyone. I operate a bot account at User:RichardcavellBot. The bot framework is open sourced and now has contributions from other people. Accordingly, I'm hoping to rename the bot framework as something that doesn't include my own name. There is no Wikipedia bot called 'Autobot', and I'd like to use this name for my bot framework. It is a reference to the TV series Transformers, and might be trademarked for all I know. I notice that at least one person with the username 'Autobot 09' was blocked for a username violation. Please note that I will only ever run the bot under the account RichardcavellBot, and others can register their own bot accounts to run the framework from. I'd like to register the name Autobot, redirect User:Autobot to User:RichardcavellBot for now, and rename my SourceForge page 'Autobot'. - Richard Cavell (talk) 01:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend posting this on WP:CHU as it would save a step and might be watched by more people. Autobot 09 was probably blocked for being a human, rather than for a promotional username. Soap 12:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

USEPA Office of Pesticide Programs

USEPA Office of Pesticide Programs (talk · contribs)

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Office of Pesticide Programs (OPP) is considering editing Wikipedia content related to pesticide chemicals, U.S. pesticide law and regulations, and other pesticide-related issues. But it appears Wikipedia's user name guidelines generally prohibit monikers that reflect organizations. OPP feels that an exception should be made in its case.
Edits made under the proposed user name "USEPA Office of Pesticide Programs" will have prior approval from the Office Director. Content in the edits will have been vetted by Agency subject matter experts to ensure accuracy. Also, pesticides are sometimes contentious and staff occasionally move on, so it seems most appropriate for individual communication staff to use an account set up for the Office rather than create individual accounts using their real names.
Are there any objections to the user name "USEPA Office of Pesticide Programs"? Regards 161.80.10.21 (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • To clarify one point: if an individual staff member was to create an account, they need not use their real names. They may use a pseudonym. In fact, we generally caution against the use of real names (see WP:REALNAME) . –xenotalk 21:39, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. Perhaps I should have added that we're balancing Wikipedia's guidelines with an Agency public communication policy requiring us to make explicit the fact that it's EPA talking in Web 2.0 scenarios. Whether individual staff members create unique pseudonyms or OPP is allowed to create its own account for their use, explicit Agency affiliation is required on our end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.80.10.21 (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there and welcome! First, thanks for your interest in Wikipedia. I'd love to see if we can get you guys connected with someone from the Foundation and/or experienced Wikipedia volunteers to be a point of contact for you and as a resource for advice with the community, especially as pesticide issues are, as you've noted, sometimes contentious. Do any other editors have thoughts on who would be good to talk to about this? It seems like your team is making an extra-careful effort to understand the Wikipedia community and our policies, which I certainly appreciate.
As for the username issue, I'm not speaking from any position of authority here, but my guess is going to be that there will be objection to editing under this username. Certainly, I understand your position, and I do support the aim of making the agency's identity explicit in its communications, but the prohibition against organizational usernames isn't just about the name, it's intended to prevent the sharing of accounts, which is prohibited by longstanding policy. There is an expectation here that one user account represents one individual human being; editors cannot maintain multiple identities for themselves (sockpuppetry) nor can multiple people share a single identity. This policy seeks to prevent the complexities that otherwise occur; it's difficult to impossible to participate in a discussion about an article with an account that represents an organization or department because you have no idea whether the person you are talking to now is the same person you were talking to earlier. Ultimately, one account=one person is a fairly fundamental community expectation here, and I suspect an exception would be pretty contentious.
The alternative I would suggest would be for each staff member involved to create an account of the form "USEPA XX" where XX are the user's initials. Less confusing to other editors here would be something like "USEPA John," (easier to distinguish different names) or you could do something more pseudonymous like "USEPA Glyphosate Guy" or "USEPA NakedMoleRat." Virtually anything would be alright that doesn't imply that multiple people are sharing an account. You could then add text to each account's user page to explain that the account's owner is a representative of the EPA Office of Pesticide Programs and provide any further information you wish. That way, any interested person clicking on the username to find out more would be able to see an explicit disclosure of the user's agency affiliation that expands on the USEPA tag in the username. You could also use that space to clarify that staffers are editing as individuals and that they are not directly speaking on behalf of the US Government. Conflict of interest disclosures on user pages like this are a standard convention on Wikipedia as described in WP:COI. For example, see User:Mark at Alcoa, which came up here last month. If an individual staff member moves on, they can simply leave a note to that effect on their user page and/or stop using the account.
I hope this helps. Feel free to let me know (you can leave a note on my user talk page) if there's anything I can help you with and I'll do my best to either help or point you to someone better suited for the task. Zachlipton (talk) 09:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I object to the usage of a group user name. If we were to allow you, then we would be creating a precedent that would go against current policy. Unless our username policy is changed by taking Wikipedia community consensus, simply getting consensus on this specific forum to allow your name would be considered wrong, without basis, and will be overruled quite easily. Kindly consider some of the alternatives that the editor Zachplipton has given above. Sincerely. Wifione ....... Leave a message 16:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally, I don't mind the organisational-account too much in this case , but I think others in the community would - understandably - object to a shared account. I think the other common concerns about an organisational username (IE. spamming) can be set aside for now. Zachlipton had some really good suggestions on usernames for "individual" accounts which are still clearly tied to the organisation. bobrayner (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    As an aside, it can be difficult for newcomers to get a grip on some of wikipedia's many norms & policies (which are there for good reasons; they're not rules for the sake of rules). Others in the community would like to help well-intentioned newcomers, but if several different people shared one account it's very difficult to provide that help. In the unlikely event that somebody at the OPP went beyond the realms of "I'm not sure how to update X" and started making disruptive edits, then it can be difficult for the community to stop the disruption without also causing problems for other people at OPP.
    I'm quite keen to help organisations and officials engage with wikipedia; an expert contributor is worth a dozen passers-by. If you need a hand with anything, feel free to use my talkpage; or there are lots of different places to get help, in particular the helpdesk. bobrayner (talk) 16:12, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I apologize for the delay in responding. Thanks to all of you for the input. I understand the concerns about a shared account. At Zachlipton's suggestion, I read through the issues related to User:Mark at Alcoa. I see that other users are still objecting to the "at Alcoa" part of the user name in spite of an Admin review and decision. In any event, I will run this past my management and see if they want to dive in. Thanks all. 161.80.10.21 (talk) 21:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • No worries about the delay, and I still think it would be great for everyone to have your experts contributing. I hope that can still be possible. If you'd like, it might be helpful to your team to talk to someone from the Foundation or a volunteer who is specifically involved with working as a liaison to institutions interested in contributing to Wikipedia. We've done this formally with the British Museum (Wikipedia:GLAM/BM) and are now working with several cultural institutions. It would seem that working with the EPA to improve articles in these areas would be a natural extension of that effort. If you are interested in talking with this team, just let me know and I'll see who would be the best person for you to talk to. Let me know if there's anything else I can help answer too. Cheers, Zachlipton (talk) 23:18, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Justice and Arbitration

Justice and Arbitration (talk · contribs)

Misleading username because it can be read to imply a position of authority in the WP:Arbitration process. See discussion at User talk:Justice and Arbitration#February 2011.  Sandstein  19:09, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The user should necessarily change his/her name. Quite misleading, especially to editors who're not in the know of the user ids. Wifione ....... Leave a message 16:41, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allow. Not at all misleading. I did a double take when I saw this in CAT:UAA and another when I saw the template had been left by an experienced editor. Arbitration a form of alternative dispute resolution (ADR), is a legal technique for the resolution of disputes outside the courts, where the parties to a dispute refer it to one or more persons (the "arbitrators", "arbiters" or "arbitral tribunal"), by whose decision (the "award") they agree to be bound. It's astronomically unlikely that any particular use of the term has anything do with the Arbitration Committee on a single website. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allow: There is a difference between "Justice and Arbitration" and something more clearly in violation such as "WikiArbitration" or "WikipediaArb." Most casual users of Wikipedia probably haven't even heard about the Arbitration Committee to begin with, while experienced editors should be able to tell that this username is not the same as ArbCom. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 05:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allow, per Sgt. R.K. Blue. I think there's not much potential for misleading people. If subsequent edits appeared to deliberately mislead people that would be another matter. bobrayner (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allow - user appears to be interested in contributing in good faith and I can't see any indication that he intends to deliberately mislead anyone. If that happens, we can take care of it, but this really seems like a non-issue to me. Zachlipton (talk) 23:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allow this editor has been making good faith edits since 2009. --Guerillero | My Talk 06:39, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]