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A fact from Measuring rod appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 April 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a measuring rod is depicted on both the Code of Hammurabi and the Tablet of Shamash (pictured)?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/April.

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Outside of Egypt heading

The heading I put in there is a bit lame I think. I could not come up with a good title for that subsection. I hope one of the other editors has a good idea :-) --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:55, 19 April 2011 (UTC) Just changed it to Other regions. Hope someone can come up with something better. --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Akhenaten image

Akhenaten - or any pharaoh for that matter - is shown with a crook and flail. This had nothing to do with measuring rods or lines. The crook is an adaptation of a (shepard's) staff or walking stick and the flail is related to a fly whisk. See for instance The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt By Toby A. H. Wilkinson pg 30 [1] These symbols have their origins in animal husbandry, not any kind of measurement. --AnnekeBart (talk) 16:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see all these sources showing links between sceptres, rods, hooks and flails and stop deleting things. Also please use eyes to observe no flaily or hooky parts in the image.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 16:43, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phi and golden ratio

This is complete fringe nonsense. The Egyptians measured ratios in terms of Egyptian fractions. Phi is defined as either a root of a mathematical equation or more likely the limit of ratios. The latter clearly does not work in Egyptian mathematics. Egyptian fractions are not unique and do not lend themselves to the development of phi. There is no evidence they knew how to extract (irrational) roots from quadratic equations such as $x^{2}-x-1=0$ .--AnnekeBart (talk) 16:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Christie Kielland's discussion about this before mindlessly deleting again. Also, how you can argue with the pure maths showing the relationship between British and Egyptian rods amazes me when you seem to know something about it. I'm sure Egyptians could put 2 squares together and draw a diagonal, even if that is beyond you.^[6] Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 16:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

^ Chisholm, Hugh, ed (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (Eleventh ed.). Cambridge University Press.
^ Matthew Henry; Thomas Scott (1838). The Comprehensive commentary on the Holy Bible: containing the text according to the authorized version ... Fessenden & Co. pp. 750–. Retrieved 19 April 2011.
^ Geoffrey William Bromiley (July 1985). Theological dictionary of the New Testament. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing. pp. 982–. ISBN 9780802824042. Retrieved 19 April 2011.
^ Rosemary Clark (1 September 2000). The sacred tradition in ancient Egypt: the esoteric wisdom revealed. Llewellyn Worldwide. pp. 81–. ISBN 9781567181296. Retrieved 19 April 2011.
^ Edward Bishop Elliott (1847). Horæ Apocalypticæ: or, A commentary on the Apocalypse, critical and historical : including also an examination of the chief prophecies of Daniel : illustrated by an Apocalyptic chart, and engravings from medals and other extant monuments of antiquity. Seeley, Burnside, and Seeley. pp. 185–. Retrieved 19 April 2011.
^ Else Christie Kielland (1955). Geometry in Egyptian art. A. Tiranti. Retrieved 6 April 2011.

[1] Chisholm, Hugh, ed (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (Eleventh ed.). Cambridge University Press.

[HenryScott1838-2] Matthew Henry; Thomas Scott (1838). The Comprehensive commentary on the Holy Bible: containing the text according to the authorized version ... Fessenden & Co. pp. 750–. Retrieved 19 April 2011.

[Bromiley1985-3] Geoffrey William Bromiley (July 1985). Theological dictionary of the New Testament. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing. pp. 982–. ISBN 9780802824042. Retrieved 19 April 2011.

[Clark2000-4] Rosemary Clark (1 September 2000). The sacred tradition in ancient Egypt: the esoteric wisdom revealed. Llewellyn Worldwide. pp. 81–. ISBN 9781567181296. Retrieved 19 April 2011.

[Elliott1847-5] Edward Bishop Elliott (1847). Horæ Apocalypticæ: or, A commentary on the Apocalypse, critical and historical : including also an examination of the chief prophecies of Daniel : illustrated by an Apocalyptic chart, and engravings from medals and other extant monuments of antiquity. Seeley, Burnside, and Seeley. pp. 185–. Retrieved 19 April 2011.

[Kielland1955-6] Else Christie Kielland (1955). Geometry in Egyptian art. A. Tiranti. Retrieved 6 April 2011.

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 ==Akhenaten image==
 Akhenaten - or any pharaoh for that matter - is shown with a crook and flail. This had nothing to do with measuring rods or lines. The crook is an adaptation of a (shepard's) staff or walking stick and the flail is related to a fly whisk. See for instance The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt By Toby A. H. Wilkinson pg 30 [http://books.google.com/books?id=Tnxf6ItROOUC&lpg=PA30&dq=crook%20and%20flail%20wilkinson&pg=PA30#v=onepage&q&f=false] These symbols have their origins in animal husbandry, not any kind of measurement. --[[User:AnnekeBart|AnnekeBart]] ([[User talk:AnnekeBart|talk]]) 16:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
+:Please see all these sources showing links between sceptres, rods, hooks and flails and stop deleting things. Also please use eyes to observe no flaily or hooky parts in the image.<ref>Chisholm, Hugh, ed (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (Eleventh ed.). Cambridge University Press.</ref><ref name="HenryScott1838">{{cite book|author1=Matthew Henry|author2=Thomas Scott|title=The Comprehensive commentary on the Holy Bible: containing the text according to the authorized version ...|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=0oRVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PT750|accessdate=19 April 2011|year=1838|publisher=Fessenden & Co.|pages=750–}}</ref><ref name="Bromiley1985">{{cite book|author=Geoffrey William Bromiley|title=Theological dictionary of the New Testament|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=ltZBUW_F9ogC&pg=PA982|accessdate=19 April 2011|date=July 1985|publisher=Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing|isbn=9780802824042|pages=982–}}</ref><ref name="Clark2000">{{cite book|author=Rosemary Clark|title=The sacred tradition in ancient Egypt: the esoteric wisdom revealed|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=7Ba3LbMHJqAC&pg=PA81|accessdate=19 April 2011|date=1 September 2000|publisher=Llewellyn Worldwide|isbn=9781567181296|pages=81–}}</ref><ref name="Elliott1847">{{cite book|author=Edward Bishop Elliott|title=Horæ Apocalypticæ: or, A commentary on the Apocalypse, critical and historical : including also an examination of the chief prophecies of Daniel : illustrated by an Apocalyptic chart, and engravings from medals and other extant monuments of antiquity|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=n1wGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA185|accessdate=19 April 2011|year=1847|publisher=Seeley, Burnside, and Seeley|pages=185–}}</ref> '''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml; font-family: Verdana;">[[User:Paul Bedson|<span style="color:Indigo">Paul Bedson</span>]] ❉[[User talk:Paul Bedson|<span style="color:FireBrick">talk</span>]]❉</span>''' 16:43, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 == Phi and golden ratio ==
 This is complete fringe nonsense. The Egyptians measured ratios in terms of Egyptian fractions. Phi is defined as either a root of a mathematical equation or more likely the limit of ratios. The latter clearly does not work in Egyptian mathematics. Egyptian fractions are not unique and do not lend themselves to the development of phi. There is no evidence they knew how to extract (irrational) roots from quadratic equations such as <math> x^2-x-1=0 </math>.--[[User:AnnekeBart|AnnekeBart]] ([[User talk:AnnekeBart|talk]]) 16:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
+:Please read Christie Kielland's discussion about this before mindlessly deleting again. Also, how you can argue with the pure maths showing the relationship between British and Egyptian rods amazes me when you seem to know something about it. I'm sure Egyptians could put 2 squares together and draw a diagonal, even if that is beyond you.<ref name="Kielland1955">{{cite book|author=Else Christie Kielland|title=Geometry in Egyptian art|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=-7WfAAAAMAAJ|accessdate=6 April 2011|year=1955|publisher=A. Tiranti}}</ref> '''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml; font-family: Verdana;">[[User:Paul Bedson|<span style="color:Indigo">Paul Bedson</span>]] ❉[[User talk:Paul Bedson|<span style="color:FireBrick">talk</span>]]❉</span>''' 16:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)