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==References==
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I've added some references to this page, and WinterStar & Starwood as well. I don't think anyone will consider them contentious. I've just discovered Google Book Search - boy, will that make things easier for a lot of editors![[User:Rosencomet|Rosencomet]] 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I've added some references to this page, and WinterStar & Starwood as well. I don't think anyone will consider them contentious. I've just discovered Google Book Search - boy, will that make things easier for a lot of editors![[User:Rosencomet|Rosencomet]] 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

==Do Not Merge with Starwood Festival & WinterStar Symposium==

* '''Do Not Merge''' It is not common Wikipedia practice to merge festivals together or merge them with the organizations that run them unless the organization does nothing but run that event. [[Pagan Spirit Gathering]] is not merged with [[Circle Sanctuary]], [[Cannabis Cup]] is not merged with [[High Times]], and [[Mythic Journeys]] is not merged with [[Mythic Imagination Institute]]. Here are examples of festivals of all sorts from the page for that category that are not so merged. (There are more: I got tired of listing them after reaching the "f"s and just added a few random ones.) If you sample others, discounting those that are not events (festivals like "Beltane") and those run by a city or other government, you'll see my point. The Starwood Festival and the WinterStar Symposium are two distinct events run by an organization that also maintains two facilities in the Cleveland area and produces tapes, CDs, DVDs, and other events, offers local classes, and has other functions. Each has demonstrated it's notability to merit an article, and new rules or policies should not be created just for them. I think this is just another attempt by the same few people who keep trying any possible way to reduce these articles.

*[[Africa Day]] - [[Organisation of African Unity]]
*[[Artimation]] - [[Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago]]
*[[Beltane Fire Festival]] - [[Beltane Fire Society]]
*[[Cannabis Cup]] - [[High Times]]
*[[Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival]] (IAF) - [[EMAP plc]]
*[[Cardiff Design Festival]] - [[University of Wales Institute, Cardiff]]
*[[Carpe Diem]] - [[Indian Institute of Management Calcutta]]
*[[Dark City]] - [[Edinburgh University Students' Association]]
*[[Day on the Green]] - [[Bill Graham Presents]]
*[[Delphic Games]] - [[International Delphic Council]]
*[[Edgefest]] - [[CFNY-FM]]
*[[FM4 Frequency Festival]] - [[FM4]]
*[[Festival da Canção]] - [[RTP]]
*The [[Machynlleth Festival]] - [[The Tabernacle]]
*[[Mythic Journeys]] - [[Mythic Imagination Institute]]
*[[Newbury Comedy Festival]] - [[Vodafone]]
*[[1987 IUSY Festival]] - [[International Union of Socialist Youth]]
*[[Pagan Spirit Gathering]] - [[Circle Sanctuary]]
*[[Sun Fun Festival]] - [[Hawaiian Tropic]]
*[[Terrastock]] - [[Ptolemaic Terrascope]]
*[[X-Day]] - [[Church of the SubGenius]]
[[User:Rosencomet|Rosencomet]] 23:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:10, 23 February 2007

Wikipedian A subject of this article, Association for Consciousness Exploration, has edited Wikipedia as User:Rosencomet.

Merge

  • Duplicates. --evrik 16:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As executive director of ACE, I agree. Rosencomet 23:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is "a group of about thirty friends"

From Krassner's article:*Krassner, Paul (2005). Life Among the Neopagans in The Nation, August 24, 2005 (web only).

The annual Starwood Festivals have been presented by the Cleveland-based Association for Consciousness Exploration, a group of about thirty friends . . .

That's peculiar as a subject for an encyclopedia article. ABSmyth 22:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC) This user was found to be a sock of Mattisse[reply]

Regardless of Paul Krassner's characterization, ACE is a Limited Liability Corporation, and an organization that has been in existence for over 20 years, providing major events to several communities. The fact that it was founded and is run by people who are friends is not an issue (not even if they're from Cleveland...)Rosencomet 19:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trimmed

I've majorly trimmed the article, making it read more like an enyclopedia article and not so much like a sympathetic or promotional piece. I've also removed a lot of puff about the events, events which have their own articles. --kingboyk 12:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your basic intent here. Hopefully, Rosencomet will discuss here before reverting again. -999 (Talk) 13:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will, indeed. I think I will have to revisit this article to add in certain information that show what fields of interest and what communities is involved with, and perhaps other data that gives a better picture or the organization. But I shall not merely revert it, and I think your basic intent is valid, as 999 has said. This is one of my earlier efforts, and it does not sound as encyclopedic as my later efforts. I'm learning.Rosencomet 16:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. We strive to take a neutral tone; we neither love our subjects nor loathe them. Also, the festivals have their own articles so we can mention them here but provide the detail in their articles. That's what the wikilinks are for :) Hope that helps! --kingboyk 19:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article has 4 Rosencomet links in it - isn't that a bit much?

Does it really need 4 Rosencomet links, all going to www.rosencomet.com? Two go to the same page: www.rosencomet.com/about. Isn't that against the rules? Timmy12 21:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no rule prohibiting complete citation. Ekajati (yakity-yak) 22:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mattisse has requested assistance. She has mentioned this article in her request. I am starting to look into the issue. Any information people could give me would be very welcome. Cheers. SilkTork 20:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WCLL and Jeff Rosenbaum

ACE Director Jeff Rosenbaum hosted several shows on low-power television station WCLL-CA in Columbus, Ohio when it was owned by Owens Broadcasting. Does anyone have any more information on this? -- SwissCelt 11:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. I don't know what Jeff Rosenbaum that was, if indeed there was one, but it's not the same guy. This one was once a guest on a Columbus show (Jeff & Christie Live - WCLL Channel 19 Columbus, OH Cable TV Show), with another ACE director Joseph Rothenberg, but that's it. Rosencomet 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

I've added some references to this page, and WinterStar & Starwood as well. I don't think anyone will consider them contentious. I've just discovered Google Book Search - boy, will that make things easier for a lot of editors!Rosencomet 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Merge with Starwood Festival & WinterStar Symposium

  • Do Not Merge It is not common Wikipedia practice to merge festivals together or merge them with the organizations that run them unless the organization does nothing but run that event. Pagan Spirit Gathering is not merged with Circle Sanctuary, Cannabis Cup is not merged with High Times, and Mythic Journeys is not merged with Mythic Imagination Institute. Here are examples of festivals of all sorts from the page for that category that are not so merged. (There are more: I got tired of listing them after reaching the "f"s and just added a few random ones.) If you sample others, discounting those that are not events (festivals like "Beltane") and those run by a city or other government, you'll see my point. The Starwood Festival and the WinterStar Symposium are two distinct events run by an organization that also maintains two facilities in the Cleveland area and produces tapes, CDs, DVDs, and other events, offers local classes, and has other functions. Each has demonstrated it's notability to merit an article, and new rules or policies should not be created just for them. I think this is just another attempt by the same few people who keep trying any possible way to reduce these articles.

Rosencomet 23:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]