Talk:BSD Daemon

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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Uusijani (talk | contribs) at 15:35, 7 October 2012 (→‎"Official" renditions, trademarked?: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This page mentions copyright of "Beastie," "Chuck," or whatever his name is, but fails to address exactly what is copyrighted (which I assume is the graphic image originally drawn by McKusick). If we're talking about a picture, whether or not you refer to him by a name, or the right name, has nothing to do with this, and the very statement that "the copyright of the BSD Daemon is held by.." is meaningless. Suggest a better explanation or removing this information entirely. 69.207.142.7 (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought his name was Speedy. --Jack (Cuervo) 04:08, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I asked M. K. McKusick, the copyright holder on the image, for his explicit permission to use the current image in this WP article (and the article on the Jargon wiki), which he gave, under the following conditions (verbatim from his response):

I prefer that the BSD Daemon be used in the context of BSD software.
So, provided that you let folks know that fact, I am happy to have you
use the BSD Daemon as you propose above. To the extent possible, I
would like my copyright information to be made available (for example
if you send it off to someone else). I enclose my general usage rules
below. And, thanks for asking.

(Under this was the text from http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html.)

I'll let someone else figure out if there's still a need for the {{fairuse}} tag, or {{PermissionAndFairUse}}, or what. --Jack (Cuervo) 08:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • I've changed the image's template from fairuse to PermissionAndFairUse. --Jack (Cuervo) 13:05, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Jargon wiki seems to have relocated. Edited my earlier comment. --Johnny (Cuervo) 21:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

More than this, I've much grown and cited the article. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

There was a statuette available at one point... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.11 (talk) 00:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Official" renditions, trademarked?

The article's Copyright section currently says "copyright of the official BSD daemon images is held by Marshall Kirk McKusick" (emphasis mine). According to freebsd.org however, use of "the likeliness of the BSD Daemons for profitable gain requires the consent of Brian Tao [...] and Marshall Kirk McKusick" (emphasis mine). Does anyone know if the daemon is also trademarked? Would that make the ASCII art rendition further down in the article also non-free? And if not, would that in turn mean File:Bsd_daemon.jpg (currently accompanying the article) is replaceable by, for example, Poul-Henning Kamp's rendition, which is Beerware? -Uusijani (talk) 15:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]