Talk:Family tree of the Greek gods

Heracles

Heracles should be there and he should be added immediately along with Alexiares and Anicetus and Alcmene .

Pontus

Pontus is the child of Gaea and Aether, not just Gaea. He and Gaea then had quite a few children. I'm going to try and add the children of Typhon and Echidna myself, but Pontus' line is to confusing for me.

One of those children is the sea god Thaumas [1], himself the father of the goddess Iris [2]. Alzrius (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC).

Afrodite

I remember that I have read that Afrodite was from foam surreunded Uranos' cutoff genital in the ocean. Sollution?Hannu 07:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

image maps

We need a facility for making image maps... Martin 17:46 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

This will be ugly complicated no matter how we display it. And look at the amount of incest. Rmhermen 13:51, Nov 23, 2003 (UTC)

book

There is a book dedicated to this topic (about two years ago). Sorry, I cannot remember its title. -- Toytoy 03:34, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

Eris

Where is Eris? --Anaraug 05:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Eris is now listed under Nyx's children. Tuxedohamm 00:53, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

She should be Zeus and Hera's kids. - Random dude —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.131.66 (talk) 02:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

great job

I am just a ramdom reader of the Wikipedia. In my opinion, you guys really have done a great job but this family tree is quite difficult to read. A family tree is useful for beginners to understand the complicated relationships between all gods. However this one is quite confusing that all the lines are in the same colours. Maybe a graphic version will be better. Anyway, very well done. - PBN

Another tree

There is a family tree @ http://ludios.org/science/greekgods/image and since every god you click on leads to wikipedia, I don't see why someone can't just see if that can be put here instead because i cant understand this one at all.

• All of the original content on that site is copyrighted by the author. --Phoenix Hacker 21:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• I might GFDL-license my Greek Gods tree at http://ludios.org/science/greekgods/image when the english Wikipedia supports image maps. Ivan 00:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

joke

I looked at the family tree and.. micheal jackson aint no greek god. Very funny.. 0.0;

Electryon

electryon was the son of Perseus and Andromeda(daughter of Cassiopeia), oh and another thing Zeus and Heres are meant to be sisters on that list so then why did they get married. Charles O —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christhapy (talk • contribs) 19:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

LMFAO -Smoke Weed

Changes needed

I do not know enough about Greek mythology but, although the current tree is impressive, it's just not readable. I'm not sure if the current tree should simply be replaced, or if it should be left intact with a better one linked to (the mentioned http://ludios.org/science/greekgods/image is impressive).

Also, what might be best is having a less extended one on the Wikipedia page (With an obvious mention that it's simplified), and links to complete trees. Because a text only tree is very hard to understand, and make it complete (and complex), not fitting the window and it's just too confusing to use. So maybe a simplified one on Wikipedia, and a link to the more complete one found at Ludios.org.

For now I will simply place a link to the one at Ludios.org. I can't find a less extended tree because I lack the knowledge to verify it, I wouldn't be comfortable replacing the current tree and so. Hopefully someone qualified will clean this page. --A Sunshade Lust 21:25, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

If anyone do changes on this page, he could be interested in this czech version: cs:Soubor:Genealogie řeckých bohů.png - available source is SVG and it is derived from this page. It is not that genealogical like that version at ludios, but it could by modified. But I think that Greak gods relations are so hypothetical, that instead of using genealogy, it is more lucid to use some map. Genealogy and relations is changing from author to author and I think version on this page is Hesiodos version (but I em not sure). --Adam 62.177.70.211 22:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I find it interesting that Tyche, Rhodos, Peitho, Eunomia, and Hermaphroditus are kids of Apollo and Hermes... two male gods. While they were quite close (with Hermes being Apollo's "most beloved", according to Homer), I doubt they had children. These should be linked under Hermes and Aphrodite. 24.3.194.152 06:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

It's fixed now. —W. Flake (talk) 19:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Make the family tree clearer

It's quite obvious that this family tree is difficult to understand. The page needs great change and improvement. I suggest that we can follow the one here. It is much readable and links can be added to the names. I think that we should base on that format and make a similar one here.

{{familytree}}

I will be working to change this page to use the familytree template. This change is being made boldly and with the note on Category:Articles with ASCII art taken into account. Comments welcome here or on my talk page. Thanks! - Corbin ^{Be excellent} 21:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I can only wish you good luck. Back when I first wrote {{familytree}} I considered doing it myself but found the task too daunting. I'm glad someone has risen up to the challenge. I hope it'll turn out well, and I'll be glad to assist in any technical matters regarding the template. (One thing to keep in mind is the current 99-column limit for them template: I think this page will be pushing it. If necessary, it can be increased, though.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Current status can be found at User:CorbinSimpson/Workspace. It's tough work, but somebody's got to do it! - Corbin ^{Be excellent} 20:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Good luck! That looks like hard work! I just came here to suggest that change... — Reinyday, 21:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Before starting you might want to save yourself some work by taking a look at the Chinese wiki here which already uses the familytree template. --Ruhan 02:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I put up my version of the {{familytree}} based chart. Please note, the data was taken from the page now listed as a reference. Because of this, data was lost in the migration. If you want me to try and reconstruct the original table, let me know, but this version will at the very least fill the gap. —W. Flake ( talk | contribs ) 06:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

SVG format?

Has anyone considered converting this into SVG format? ASCII art is SO Web 1.0.

Why?

Why is Perseus in there? hes a hero not a God or a Goddess....and he comes from nowhere hes just hanging there on the top left. METALFREAK04 19:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Perseus, Alexander, Patrocalus and a few of the other heroes became Gods upon their deaths —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rikudemyx (talk • contribs) 06:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Other Mythologies?

This is a great tree, it was vary helpful in many respects (and wasn't too hard to decipher) but I was wondering if there was a project/campaign to do the same for other mythologies. Hindu and Egyptian mythology don't have one last i checked. Just another guy trying to be a Chemical Engineer, Nanobiotechnologist, and Mathematician (talk) 16:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Greek Myths

i read in a book called 'the Greek myths: 1' by Robert Graves that Aphrodite was born when Cronus went against his father Uranus and cut off his genitals and threw them in the sea, then Aphrodite rose from the foam. the book also mentions that others think that she she was born from Zeus and Dione. it says that in the Pelasgian creation myth that the goddess Eurynome rose naked from chaos and she created the snake Ophion who together made and egg that when hatched everything that existed fell out, Eurynome made the 7 planetary powers and for each set a titan, one male one female;Theia, Hyperion for the sun:phoebe,atlas for the moon:Dione and curis for mars:metis and coeus for mercury: themis and eurymedon for Jupiter:tethys and oceanus for Venus: rhea and ronus for Saturn. thats how they came to be. it is also believed that Zeus entwined with his mother rhea. the Greek mythes are very old and so may have different versions, or be told slightly differently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.149.150 (talk) 14:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Greek Myths

i read in a book called 'the Greek myths: 1' by Robert Graves that Aphrodite was born when Cronus went against his father Uranus and cut off his genitals and threw them in the sea, then Aphrodite rose from the foam. the book also mentions that others think that she she was born from Zeus and Dione. it says that in the Pelasgian creation myth that the goddess Eurynome rose naked from chaos and she created the snake Ophion who together made and egg that when hatched everything that existed fell out, Eurynome made the 7 planetary powers and for each set a titan, one male one female;Theia, Hyperion for the sun:phoebe,atlas for the moon:Dione and curis for mars:metis and coeus for mercury: themis and eurymedon for Jupiter:tethys and oceanus for Venus: rhea and ronus for Saturn. thats how they came to be. it is also believed that Zeus entwined with his mother rhea. the Greek mythes are very old and so may have different versions, or be told slightly differently, this is what confuses me. but it would be very hard to preserve a story from so long ago without a few or more parts of it changing. this is why i find history very interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.149.150 (talk) 14:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Kronos/Cronus

Cronus is spelt Kronos. Kronos is greek, people only say 'Cronus' becuase of the American Version of the book 'Nyad' by that dude. yeah. get it right. METALFREAK04 (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Clean up

Cleaned up the tree. Everything that was included at http://ludios.org/greekgods/ is included, as well as quite a few extra figures I thought should be included, and managed to squeeze in. --Yenemus (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Lock this article

I'm sure a few people have noticed that some moron has deleted everything off this page and replaced it with some dumb comment saying "ha ha, i'm mr. wilson." and more following. Someone please restore the content and try and lock this article for now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.85.82 (talk) 02:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the vandalism has been going on for quite a while. You might be right. --Koveras ^☭ 07:14, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

How to interpret this tree

This is a very interesting tree wit ha lot of useful information. It would help if there was a key describing the use of color, bold text, etc. For example, what is the significance of the "green" gods in the middle of the page? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I did actually create a legend for it when I made the tree, but someone removed it without explanation. I re-added it, but I can't be sure how long it will stay. :( --83.226.64.212 (talk) 18:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Uranos

Shouldn't he be in the family tree —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zordon123456789mlw7 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Uranos was the father of the Titans,Andrew. And the Titan,Cronus, was father of the six original greek gods.--69.113.146.244 (talk) 22:09, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Atlas' brother

According to the wikipedia article on Atlas, he has a brother. Should this appear in the diagram? 220.244.143.54 (talk) 13:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Alternate origins

Hephestos and Athena need notes stating that there are alternative origins for them, just like for Aphrodite and Eros. Hephestos is sometimes (often in fact) listed as being parthenogenically created by Hera and Athena's mother is often given as Metis.

Also, shouldn't PJ not be the god of mountains? And I think Metis is missing from the list of Titans. And shouldn't there be a link or something stating that Hades and Persephone are married... and what about Chiron, centaur son of Kronos? And the monstrous children of Echidna & Typhon or Echidna & Heracles? 72.185.169.135 (talk) 11:49, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Chaos

Chaos, or the Void, was NOT the one from whom all else sprang. Hesiod's Theogony tells us: "Verily at the first Khaos came to be, but next wide-bosomed Gaia (Earth), the ever-sure foundations of all the deathless ones who hold the peaks of snowy Olympus ... From Khaos came forth Erebos and black Nyx (Night)." - Hesiod, Theogony 116 Chaos.

If we aim to be professional, let's stop propagating this misunderstanding. Chaos was just one of the Primordial deities, and it never had anything to do with Gaia or her children (interestingly enough, no child of Gaia ever married a child of Chaos). The two are separate. I can't edit the tree, but I hope somebody will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.143.189.120 (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Morpheus

shouldnt morpheus be added, he is a son of hypno and god of dreams —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mace98 (talk • contribs) 02:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Roman Way

Khaos The Void

Tartarus The Abyss

Terra the Earth

Eros Desire

Erebose Darkness

Night the Night

Moros Doom

Oneiroi Dreams

Nemesis Vengance

Momus Blame

Philotes Affection

Geras Aging

Thypoeus the storms

Uranus the Sky

Ourea the Mountains

Sea the Sea

Aethra Heaven

Day The Day

Thanatos Death

Hypnos Sleep

Discordia Strife

Apate Deceit

Oizys Distress

Moirae & Ceres

Furies

Gigantes

Meliae

Venus

Hecatonchires

Titans

Cyclopes

Echnida

Other Titan

Other Titan

Other Titan

Other Titan

Other Titan

Other Titan

Saturn

Ops

Other Titan

Lethe

Other Titan

Milo

Oceanids

Clymene

Helios

Eos

Asteria

Ceres

Vesta

Juno

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Prometheus

Epimetheus

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Inakkus

Melia

Heliades

Semele

Latona

Pluto

Neptune

Jupiter

Muses

Atlas

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Io

Pleione

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Apollo

Diana

Proserpina

Minerva

Juventas

Vulcan

Mars

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Hyades

Hesperides

Pleiades

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Epaphus

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Eris

Lithya

Dione

Merope

May

Alcmene

Semele

Mercury

Venus

Hercules

Bacchus

Faunus

Tyche

Rhode

Peitho

Eunomia

Hermaphroditus

Cupid

Concordia

Deimos

Anesta

Himeros

Phobos

Disney Characters are not Greek gods

Hello, I just joined ten minutes ago because I saw someone tampered with the article in question. Replacing some of the Greek gods with Disney characters such as Mickey in the place of Zeus and Donald Duck in place of Aphrodite. I did what I could to return the family tree to its original state, but I'm not very experienced with any of this. If anyone else would care to look at this and make sure everything is okay, it would be much appreciated. - Nixaeùs (April 13, 2010)

Hi. Yes, the article has been repeatedly vandalized for as long as I can remember. We have some very persistent trolls here... As for returning it to the original state, it's actually pretty easy: you just go to history tab (on top of the article), select the current version and the last good version of the article, click "Compare", then "Undo", then "Save". The wiki engine will do the rest for you. Thanks for keeping an eye out, looking forward to working with you. :) --Koveras ^☭ 08:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

error I think

The tree shows that Hermes and Dryope produced Pan. I'm pretty sure that was Hermes and Maia, who is nearby on the tree. I don't know how to edit this thing, could somebody change it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.241.60 (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The Pan (god) article notes the conflicting origin myths but is does mention Dryope as possible mother, while not mentioning Maia at all. --Koveras ^☭ 18:25, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Latinate spellings

Is this article called "Family tree of the Greek gods" or "Family tree of the Greco-Roman gods"? ::) What does commonplace status of Romanized names have to do with Greek gods per se? --Koveras ^☭ 18:53, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

The latinate spellings of the Greek gods are the most common spellings of their names in English. For example the most common spelling in English of the the Titan is Cronus not Kronos. Paul August ☎ 21:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with that, but in my opinion, the spellings closer to the original Greek pronunciation are more appropriate in this particular article. --Koveras ^☭ 07:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

The way the names are pronounced in Greek is irrelevant. We should use whatever the standard English spelling is — the same spelling we use for the main article (e.g Cronus) and elsewhere in the encyclopedia. We should strive for consistency. Using multiple spellings simply confuses things. Paul August ☎ 14:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well, if you say so... I didn't really care for this article, anyway. :D --Koveras ^☭ 20:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.28.111.101, 7 June 2010

Two sections were merged for ease of discussion. I notice that you have Persephone's name in bold. However, she is not one of the Twelve Olympians, so I feel that this should be unbolded.

Unless, of course, you are doing it for important gods, regardless of rank, but if that's the case, then you should bold Hades and Hestia too. 75.28.111.101 (talk) 23:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

The Twelve Olympians page notes that Persephone, Hades and Hestia are all sometimes included among the twelve, though none are always included (like Zeus, for instance). Since the definition of who the Twelve comprises is fluid, I think using that as a benchmark is not useful. The decision, then, becomes what the editors of this page think are the "important" gods. My opinion is that all three should be bolded, as they are all clearly in the most-important tier. ÷seresin 02:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)