Talk:Psychometry (paranormal)

"purported"

Perfectblue, you may want to read weasel words. Purported isn't one. That said, your latest edit is fine, my only objection is presenting this as if it were fact. --Minderbinder 14:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't take this personally, but your edits sometime make it sound

1. As if the accuracy of the terminology is in doubt, when it is the nature of what is being described (is it a UFO or is it a weather balloon) that is in doubt
2. As if it is the existence of an experiment is in doubt, when it is the accuracy and conclusions that should be questioned.

I think that it's best if we just use "said" etc, it's nice and neutral.

perfectblue 14:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's hilarious

When a page's "trivia" section is bigger than the entire rest of the page. 69.230.182.38 (talk) 06:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Equally hilarious is the assertion that "As of 2009 the phrase 'token-object reading' has superseded the term "psychometry" so as to avoid potential confusion with the branch of psychology called 'psychometrics'." That sounds like an assertion of psychologists to me. If so, the term is not a primarily psychological term; the term is metaphysical. Common use is usually given primary weight in wikipedia as should be the case for this article. - Steve3849 09:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Move page

My suggestion is based both on common usage and actual spelling (psychometry vs psychometerics). A google search turns up far more pages about "psychometry" than "token object reading". Furthermore, most of the "token" related links also mention "psychometry", whereas the links regarding "psychometry" rarely mention "token object reading". Additionally, only very few sites of the google search for "psychometry" turn up "psychometrics". My suggestions are to either move this article to Psychometry (paranormal), or better to simply let what is now an unnecessary disambiguous page become the rightful article: Psychometry. Rephrased, what do you think of moving this article to Psychomtery? - Steve3849 09:27, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I did go back through the history of Psychometry and found the original edit made in 2006 that regards the 'superseding of the term token object reading' as currently stated in the lede which was placed by a user who is now blocked. However, the edit was referenced to parapsych.org which is a glossary that does indeed state under the term "psychometry" that "owing to the confusion with a psychological term, 'psychometry' has in recent years been superseded by 'token-object reading.'” Yet, what is telling is that the same glossary does NOT have an entry as of today for "token-object reading". There may be chance one may appear soon if they care at all as I recently emailed them about their peculiar oversight. I still think this article should be moved. - Steve3849 11:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Looking at the mainspace links to the pschometry page, they all appear to relate to this topic. The only exception I noticed is the List of academic disciplines. That should surely link to psychometrics, since, even if researchers are interested in "token-object reading", they don't practice it as a discipline. The OED does list 'psychometrics' as a second meaning of 'psychometry', but that just needs a hatnote. 'Token-object' is a collocation I cannot find in the OED. William Avery (talk) 11:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Please note Psychometry is currently a disambiguation page, since there are several things that "psychometry" could refer to, and none has been shown to be the primary topic. If you wish to move the page to psychometry, you need to show this is the primary topic for the term. I note that there were 8143 hits on Psychometry (currently the disambiguation page) in December 2009 [1] and only 3414 on Token-object_reading [2], which is not the start of a strong case. If it is not determined to be primary topic, the page may be moved to a name with a parenthetical disambiguator instead. I hesitate to suggest a suitable one but psychometry (paranormal) may fit? Searching for All pages with titles containing paranormal shows it is a common paranthetical disambiguator and it seems a reasonably neutral term to me. --MegaSloth (talk) 11:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It is possible the disambiguation page was receiving hits mostly for the primary topic (paranormal) and the excess portion found the brief description there satisfactory. - Steve3849 12:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Its been brought to my attention that what I am proposing is actually a multiple move, not a merge; please see the next section. - Steve3849 12:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

Psychometry → Psychometry (disambiguation) — Common usage. - Steve3849 12:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

• Token-object reading → Psychometry

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Token-object reading which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 12:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)