User talk:Alexikoua

Hail friend!

Hail Alexikoua!! It seems that we are interested mostly in the same articles! Apparently, we're the only ones editing Zagori-related articles (do you actually come from Zagori?), as well as (Northern) Epirus articles. On this basis of these same interests, we can co-operate in all these articles, and set ambitious goals as writing an article for each Zagori village (something I plan to start working on from November). Regards,Michael X the White (talk) 12:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Εγώ είμαι από τον Ελαφότοπο (Τσερβάρι). Αλλά μένω στις Βρυξέλλες. Δεν έχω και πολλά βιβλία σχετικά με την εποχή εδώ μαζί μου, άλλα θα πάω μια βδομάδα τέλη Οκτωβρίου στα Γιάνενα, όπου έχω αρκετά και θα πάρω ό,τι μπορώ. Γι'αυτό σου είπα ότι σχεδιαζω ν'ασχοληθώ περισσότερο αρχές Νοεμβρίου. Εσύ έχεις πηγές;; Επίσης, θα βάλω τον Άγγελο Κίτσο στους διάσημους Ζαγορίσιους (ήταν πραγματικά σπουδαίος), και πιστεύω ότι πρέπει να φτιάξουμε κι ένα άρθρο γι'αυτόν. (Βλέπε το τελευταίο τεύχος "Το Ζαγόρι μας").--Michael X the White (talk) 11:03, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Pyrrhus

Χαίρε! Ο γνωστός για τις...τακτικές του χρήστης Emperordarius επέστρεψε στο άρθρο για τόν Πύρρο. Δεν μπορώ να αντιστρέφω για πολύ τις ενέργειες του, καθώς σύντομα θα σπάσω τον 3RR. Σε παρακαλώ έλεγξέ το! Τα λέμε,Michael X the White (talk) 21:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi again

Τι γίνεταί; Τι νέα; Σε παρακαλώ ενημέρωσέ με για κάποιο νέο άρθρο σου (για να βοηθήσω οσο μπορώ). Γίνεται να ρίξεις μιά ματιά στο Angelos Kitsos?? Βασίστηκα αποκλειστικά στο "Ζαγόρι μας" τεύχος 363. Επίσης, μπορείς να κοιτάξεις το Talk:Greece σχετικά με ένα γλωσσολογικό χάρτη "μειονοτήτων"; Τα λέμε,Michael X the White (talk) 17:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Great Albania

Nice idea in the talk page of this article. But, I would like to point out that the results of the 2001 census in Greece does not include ethnic or linguistic minorities, as far as Greece does not aknowledge that they exist. The census in Albania of 1989 includes ethnic and lingiustic minorities, and as for it there is no district in Albania that has a non-Albanian majority. There are communes that have such a majority. I have created a map with this communes and you can find it here. But we cannot put out the "?" in Greece, since there is no evidence that there is no minority or majority, or whatever non-Greek population in that areas. Have a nice day.balkanian (talk) 14:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about balkanian?There is no "?" for Greece! There is only the Muslim Greek religious minority that exists in Greece. And as long as that is the official data, there is no other minority.Now you question the Hellenic Republic's official data and put an "?". In exactly the same way can Albanian official data be questioned, especially during the communist regime, especially during the time with the most tension, especially 20 years ago.--Michael X the White (talk) 14:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

We are not talking about immigrants in here. Greece did not ask in 2001 census, as in every census since 1951, what was the ethnicity or the mother tangue of Greek nationals. So, we have no statistical information about the ethnic or lingustic minorities in Greece, because such thing is not allowed by Greek government. On the other hand, even if it is outdated the Albanian census at least clarifies the amount of non-Albanian ethnical, Albanian nationals in the country. Thanks.balkanian (talk) 11:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

That`s exactly what I am saying. Immigrants do not and cannot constitute a minority, they are still Albanian citiziens and even if they become Greek citiziens, they will have to state that they are commited to leave their prior ethnicity claims. The exact questioning of the statistical data in Greece is about Orthodox Cham ALbanians, that may still have albanian ethnic fealings and self-identification. (You can see Cham Albanians for more info, after me and Greek users, reformed it in a NPOV situation. There are references for 40.000 Orthodox Cham Albanians living in Igoumenitsa and Preveza Prefecture). For them there is no ethnic questioning in the Greek censuses, so there is no statistical data from the greek government, to say if they are minority, or majority, and if they feel like Albanians or Greeks. (I want you not to confuse Arvanites and Orthodox Cham ALbanians, who in Greece are known as Arvanites of Epirus, or of Northwest Greece, becouse as for references-Greek Committe of Helsinki- Arvanites of Northwest Grece are part of modern Albanian nation, unlike Arvanites of Morea and Attiki, who are totally assimilated by Greek culture and ethnic self-identification). So, this forces us to put a "?" in Greek prefectures of Northwest, not knowing, if Greek citizens (that are born in Greece and whose parents are born in Greece, etc), of Albanian ethnicity form a minority or a majority in these ares. As of if they exist or not, there are plenty of references that conclude that they exist (see Cham Albanians).
PS:I am User:Arditbido, or balkanian. This is my new usernamebalkan (talk) 13:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I see, Vickers and some other sources say that they are about 40.000. In this case the Preveza and Thesprotia Prefectures number about 105.000 people, residing in it. We do not know if this number (40.000) reside in Thesprotia, or in Preveza, or in both areas. If they reside in one of this 2 prefectures, and not in both, they form a majority in the prefecture they reside. If they are divided in the 2 prefectures they form a minority. Not knowing, this fact, (actually as far as I know, with my OR, they reside mainly in Fanari and sorrounding municipalities, but I have no reliable source to conclude on it), we cannot asume that they are a minority or a majority in one of this tow areas.Balkanian`s word (talk) 11:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree about Castoria, Janina and Florina. We are sure that there is no majority. As for the map, I think that it is POV, becouse it is based only in one research.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

user

i can not understand why wikipedians proscribed the article eleftherios arelis in 2 days when the law defines in 30 days from the time of appearance they accuse this article as a blatant advertising. but the most of the greek articles are doing the same thing from vasia loi until makis triantafylopoulos and many worst cases than that.the aim of wikipedia is to inform if the user from los angeles is provocative with greek writers who are opponents of his president and his awful foreighn policy it is his right.the specific user accused the article as cv but all the articles of wikipedia are having a cv of the personality can you managed to remain the article as a stub alexikoua; thank you in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.134.64.141 (talk) 07:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

• Dear "user", please do not remove tags that other editors include in the article, without giving a proper explanation for your actions. Your previous contributions looked like you are trying to post your resume in Wikipedia. This is not the proper place to do that. General blog contributions do not constitute adequate ref's. Including webpages as links, with insulting material, is not proper for an article. Wikipedia is not the proper place, if you want to insult anybody. If you want to keep a article for yourself or your friend here, find proof that you or your friend are notable, and include it in the article. The fact that a bad article might survive sometimes, is not a good excuse, to permit other bad articles to be created.

Please read Wikipedia:Your first article, Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Citing sources, and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. (Alexikoua sorry for my intervention but I happened to know some of the contributions of this user). Maniadis (talk) 16:59, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Πίνακες

Sorry, αλλα δεν έχω ιδέα απο πίνακες εδω στην Wikipedia... άλλα αμα ψάξεις θα είναι σχετικά εύκολο να βρεις. Καλός αυτός που έβαλες στο Ζαγόρι. Θα τα διαχωρίσουμε γεωγραφικά (δύσκολο) ή καλύτερα σε δήμους-κοινότητες??--Michael X the White (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

You want Help:Table. Feel free to ask if you have questions about specifics, it's a bit hard to get used to at first. The simplest thing is just to say:

{|class="wikitable"
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!Heading 1
!Heading 2
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|Cell 1A
|Cell 2A
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|Cell 1B
|Cell 2B
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Which gives:

Heading 1	Heading 2
Cell 1A	Cell 2A
Cell 1B	Cell 2B

Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Notable Cham Albanians

Thanks for helping. I brought sources for Hasan Tahsin and Ali Demi. I want to discuss with you the problem of Shpata, Zenebishti and Losha, becouse you removed them to Arvanites article. Actually, these persons are the "fathers" of Arvanites and of Cham Albanians. Do not forget that Orthodox Cham Albanians are called Arvanites of Epirus in Greece (Helsinki monitor and Vickers) and actually in 1400 there was no distincion, because all were called "Arber", "Arberesh" (like arvanites call themselves). So we can use them both in Cham Albanians and Arvanites. Another fact is that some of this tribesmen and despots turned to muslims, and this is the first division of Cham Albanians to Orthodox and Muslim, like Jakup Shpata. What do you think?Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Ζαγόρι

Καλησπέρα! Τι γίνεται? Απ'όσο βλέπω δεν έχουμε κάποιο πρόβλημα αυτή τη στιγμή. Κοίταξα το Template: villages of Zagori την τελευταία εβδομάδα και το συγύρισα λίγο (έτσι ώστε να μην οδηγεί σε disambiguations). Επίσης, έριξα μια ματιά στα "Κάτω Πεδινά" και "Βίτσα" κι αναγκάστηκα να τα κουτσουρέψω αρκέτα. Το Σάββατο θα φύγω (θα πάω στα Γιάννενα και θα γυρίσω την άλλη Παρασκευή (ε δεν πιστεύω να 'χουμε κανα πρόβλημα μέσα σε μιά εβδομάδα). όταν θα επιστρέψω θα έχω και μερικά βιβλία για πηγές. Εσύ έχεις αρκετές για να ξεκινήσουμε τότε να γράφουμε άρθρα για όσα περισσότερα χωριά μπορούμε? Επίσης, έβαλα το Template to WP:Grece στο Angelos Kitsos. Έλεγξε το κι εσύ και κοίταξε εάν συμφωνείς με το assessment. --Michael X the White (talk) 13:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Please answer to my proposal

That`s right, because I and Deucalionite have decided to edit in a later time the history section. But, for sure, Cham Albanians did not "born" in 1912. For sure they existed backwards. But, according to Helsinki Monitor Raport, Arvanites of Epirus are part of modern Albanian nation, and commonly (see Vickers) they are called Orthodox Cham Albanians. This means that, even if you add them in Arvanites article, it does not mean that they have no reason to exist in this page. Most of all, according to "History of Albanian People" Albanian Academy of Science.ISBN 9992716231, after the fall of their territory, Shpatas, etc, remained in these territories, so forming the Albanian population of Epirus. This means that they are the anecestors of Arvanites of Epirus (i.e. Orthodox Cham Albanians, see Helsinki raport and Vickers). On the other hand, some of them were converted to Islam, see Jakup Shpata the last despot of Arta, thus being the anescetors of muslim Cham Albanians.Balkanian`s word (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Please...Helsinki is not RS--Michael X the White (talk) 19:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I think that this is the most difficult part of the article, but we have to deal with it. What we today call Cham Albanians, are descendats of "Vagnetian Albanians", as "Shqipetar" are descendats of "Arbers". This is a unique case I think in the history, were certain groups or nations, change their names, as Albanians have done. But, we cannot say that Scanderbeg was not "Shqiptar", only because he did not know his name back than. That is the reason why we left for latter the edition of history section. I propose that we add as Cham Albanians, every Albanian that was from that region (Thesprotia-Vagnetia-Chameria), for the reasons I stated above. What do you propose. We must reach a common standard, in order to edit the history section, and to find the notable "cham" Albanians.Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Gjin Bua Shpata

According to the sources, in this period, Vagnetia region was part of Gjon Zenebishti Principality, after the later deafeted Preljubovic. That`s why they were bordering.Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

nationalistic userbox

I have removed a userbox from your userpage.There is a strong consensus for the removal of the userbox, as seen here. Please be aware, that according to our userpage guideline and civility policy, polemic userpage content which directly attacks others or has the potential to inflame nationalistic disputes is not acceptable. Do feel free to come to the ANI if you have any questions or wish to make a comment, but whatever you do, do not re-add the box back to your userpage. Theresa Knott | token threats 19:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Please answer this question, why don't you also go to all "Macedonians" user pages and take out the same picture with th red background?? It is also againist WP:CIVILITY, I think.-Michael X the White (talk) 20:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Koukouli

Είδα το "Νεόφυτος Δούκας"... Καλό είναι. Θα το εμπλουτίσουμε σιγά σιγά. Είδα ότι έφτιαξες σελίδα "Koukouli Zagoriou".Είναι καλύτερο να βάλεις "Koukouli (Ioannina)". Είναι η πάγια μέθοδος όταν υπάρχουν πολλές τοποθεσίες με το ίδιο όνομα. Μέσα στην εβδομάδα θα ξαναδιαβάσω τα βιβλία που πήρα μαζί μου και θα σε ενημερώσω για όποια καινούρια άρθρα. Τα λέμε!--Michael X the White (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

(Έφτιαξα και το disambiguation για το Κουκούλι)--Michael X the White (talk) 21:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Πέρασα μία σήμερα από όλα τα άρθρα που υπάρχουν μέχρι στιγμής. Έκανα μερικές αλλαγές/ διορθώσεις και προσέθεσα ονομασίες. Απ'ότι βλέπω έχεις τις γεωγραφικές συντεταγμένες των χωριών. Λέω να κάνουμε το εξής: Ξεκίνα όσα περισσότερα άρθρα μπορείς, βάζοντας λίγα απλά πράγματα, τα template, καμιά εικόνα εάν έχεις και τις συντεταγμένες και μετά θα περνάω εγώ να συμπληρώνω όπως σήμερα κι έπειτα θα εμπλουτίζουμε σταδιακά. Επίσης, λέω η κατήγορια "Notable people" να βγει από τα άρθρα των χωριών και να έχουμε μόνο μία στο Zagori. Καλό Σαββατοκύριακο!--Michael X the White (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Check this out...

Κοίτα αυτό... Θέλει ποοοολύ δουλειά! Τι νέα; --Michael X the White (talk) 14:12, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Autonomous Republic of N. Epirus

Thanks for your kind words. Well done yourself in creating the article, on such an interesting and neglected topic. I'll try to do some copyediting and add further info, if I come across it. If we could find a few more citations, we could nominate it for DYK, helping to bring in a wider audience and hopefully more contributors. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 21:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Please consider posting the following soon at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_December_9:

{{subst:DYKsug|article=Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus|hook=... that the '''[[Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus]]''' was a short-lived state, founded in March 1914 by the [[Greeks]] living in southern [[Albania]]?|creator=Alexikoua|image=Stamp Epirus 1914 5l flag.jpg}}

Interesting subject. Regards, Aramgar (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I was happy to see that the article maintains neutral point of view and would be happy to see it as a DYK. Please let me know if I can help. Aramgar (talk) 14:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello again! I think I have some books with more details on the events during 1914, but they're in Athens. When I get back for Christmas, I'll try to look them up. Miller, I am sorry tosay, does not give any info on Korytsa. I'll keep looking though. Best regards, Constantine ✍ 21:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus

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vasil bollano

please contribute in Talk:Vasil BollanoBalkanian`s word (talk) 13:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Will you please discuss the name change?Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Bollano

Please, see once again on Talk:Vasil BollanoBalkanian`s word (talk) 13:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Happy New Year, and Merry Christmas (a bit late:-))Balkanian`s word (talk) 13:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Χαίρε!

Tι γίνεται??? Ρίξε λίγο μιά ματιά σε αυτό:[1].--Michael X the White (talk) 13:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Geia

Geia sou A, an kai den mou peftei logos to ti symberilamvaneis sto diko sou User Page, san kapos adexio mou fenetai auto to 'by any means necessary' sto 'This user supports the liberation of the Occupied Northern Cyprus by any means necessary!' Politis (talk) 14:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Do you know any wiki-romanian, to translate that prhase?Balkanian`s word (talk) 11:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Souliotes

Please, I do not care for that. But, since the ethnicity of the Souliotes is not defined by wiki, than we should not add any ethnicity. I could have said that they are Albanians, but I did not, so please do not add Greek Souliotes, since Souliotes article, does not conclude on their ethnicity. See Souliotes. ok?Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I don`t want to enter in such discussions for now, because I want to finish with Cham Albanians page. But, the exact consensus is "Most sources agree that Souli was settled first by Greek and Arvanite settlers who migrated into the mountains from the coastal areas of Thesprotia. Biris places the ultimate origin of these first Souliote settlers further north in Albania, arguing that their folk culture showed traces of Gheg rather than Tosk influence.[2] According to one theory, they were of Greek and Albanian descent,[3] who came to identify politically and ethnically as Greeks.[4] Other authors such as André Gerolymatos subscribe to the argument that the Souliotes were simply "Orthodox Albanians".[5]" i.e.:unclear ethnicity. "Irrespective of where the Souliotes came from, they were considered Greeks by their contemporaries."Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Arvanites of Chameria, or of Epirus? Can we agree on naming them Arvanites of Epirus, because the only Albanians that are Arvanites of Epirus, but not chams, reside in 2 villages in Konitsa. Which, means that the vast majority of Arvanites of Epirus are cham albanians, and only in 2 villages there are lab albanians. On the other hand, Arvanites of Chameria is used by nobody. What do you think?Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

"Just per talk" I agree with you. The problem is that orthodox Cham ALbanians and orthodox Lab Albanians, who lived in Epirus were called Arvanites of Epirus. On the other hand, Orthodox Lab Albanians of the Periphery of Epirus is such a small number (2 villages) that it does not need to incorporate them in the article. We may just say "arvanites of epirus...bla bla bla", exept of two villages in Konitsa, who are arvanites, but are Lab Albanians. On Zervas, etc. we should differ something. Arvanites of Epirus are not the mainstream arvanites (what ethnologue says "arvanitika proper"), they form part of the modern albanian nation. As such, they ofcourse are Cham Albanians (because they speak the cham dialect and have the cham traditions). If some, (Zervas, Grivas) were fully hellenised, it just means that under the name Arvanites of Epirus (i.e. Cham Albanians) are incorporated greko-fil Albanians. (as for example, some members of the Greek minority in Albania, who were fully assimilated. Does this means that Greek minority in Albania does not exist?).Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree, but you did not get my point. In Greece, the term that is used is Arvanites of Epirus and as such, we should use this term. The term Arvanites of Chameria cannot be used, because Albanians do not agree with the term Arvanites, Greeks do not agree with Chameria.

What Euromosaic makes clear is that the Arvanites living in Chameria are Orthodox Cham Albanians. So it is not OR, to say that all Arvanites of Epirus (a term used in Greece), exept 2 villages, are Orthodox Cham Albanians (a term used in Albania). This because, Arvanites of Epirus, means only arvanites living in Epirus.

Arvanites of Epirus are divided in 2 categories, Chams and Labs. We are editing Cham Albanians page, so we will add this info in that page. When, we start editing the Lab Albanians page, than we will add, that Lab Albanians living in 2 villages in the north of Konitsa are also called Arvanites of Epirus. What do you think?Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

On history section, you are right, we should add more info about their rebellion, but Ali should remain, as long, as he ruled the region and the chams. On Arvanites, we have not till now, any single reference, that arvanites of epirus are not Albanians. Even if there are assimilated Albanians, this does not mean that they are not Albanians. I`ll sum up, with what I said before "some members of the Greek minority in Albania, who were fully assimilated. Does this means that Greek minority in Albania does not exist?"Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

If all Albanians in the region have or had been assimilated and self-identify as Greeks, then there is no minority.--Michael X the White (talk) 22:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal

As far as the Cham Issue, of the WWII, and the adjuctant periods (1935-1950) are dobious, and not clear, Greek and Albanian government and authors may contain about this period a certain national POV. Thus, I propose a consnesus on the following issue:

• Albanian and Greek authors, who have written about the period that contains Cham Issue, not to be used as references
• Albanian and Greek authors, to be used as references only if they speak about certain figures collected on written sources that fulfills WP:RS
• Albanian and Greek authors, to be used as references only if they explicitly cite other foreign authors that fulfills WP:RS

I think that this is the only solution in order to mantian the Cham Albanians page and other pages containing the Cham Issue balanced, reliable and NPOV.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

A proposal

Please can you see the proposal I have made in Talk:Chameria page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Discuss, and in the right place

Alexikoua, trying to enlist allies at a wikiproject sympathetic to your POV, like you did here[2], rather than discussing on the relevant talk page, as you should have done here, is not a sign of constructive collaborative spirit. No, you did not explain why the two pages should be separate; in fact, I cannot find a single talk page edit of yours during the last few days addressing the topic. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

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I was deleting the -fact- sign inside the sentences because the paragraph had already citations at its end, the fact sign by the 'reverter' was virtually without any need. I'm reluctant about the real meaning of this. Is it an 'free' encyclopedia or a room of political influences. Can people really be called by their names as per rs? Guess in wiki not.

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This picture is most likely non-free; at least you have provided no evidence it's under a free license. If we have some non-trivial encyclopedic coverage of that organisation, you could perhaps re-upload the image here on en-wiki and declare it a fair-use logo, but the copy on commons is most likely going to be deleted. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

hi do you have any sources about the higher estimate of north epirotes i remember 100000 being an underestimation 85.74.212.234 (talk) 21:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources

Here are some Books/Sources that can help you in your articles about Epirus: The sorrows of Epirus (1918) Author: Puaux, René, 1878-1937 London, Hurst & Blackett ltd.
Albania's captives By Pyrrhus J. Ruches 1965
The Greeks of Northern Epirus and Greek-Albanian Relations: Vol. I, 1897-1918-vol. II, 1919-1921 By Basil Kondis, Alexander S. Onassis Public Benefit Foundation Published by Hestia, 1995
Badlands, borderlands: a history of Northern Epirus By Tom Winnifrith, 2002
Human Rights in Post-communist Albania: Human Rights in Post-Communist Albania‎ - Page 105 by Fred Abrahams, Human Rights Watch/Helsinki (Organization : U.S.), Human Rights Watch (Organization) - 1996
By the way I'm not the one from above.85.74.214.210 (talk) 23:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Winnifrith is good in research. I seek a full copy of Ruche's, it has many descriptions and unique details about the region and history.Alexikoua (talk) 23:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

northner epirus

yes it was my foult, in the first time. seeing the report of Albania in the commision, it speaks only about dropull, not pogon.Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:03, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look at this [3] it seems that this article really bugs Balkanian's word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadbuttrue92 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually I named them Greeks in Albania [4], not Greek minority in Albania. So there should have been a misconception between us. Ok, then I am going to rename it as per our consensus.Balkanian`s word (talk) 18:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Shall you discuss?

Shall you discuss or just revert? References are clear and I`m not affraid of them.Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

OK

Glad you find it useful. I wonder what happened to their descendants?Politis (talk) 19:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

There are a number of Panepirotic Unions (America, Australia) that might write something in their sites, but so far I searched I havent found yet numbers.Alexikoua (talk) 19:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Great work:-)Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

are you going to include a history section...? i removed the ancient that i added because im not sure if its relevant and its a common point of dispute in the balkans but what didnt you like about the medieval ;-)85.74.193.249 (talk) 21:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I will create history sections inside specific fields of cultural development (education for example, from medieval to modern times, or literature). About wars and stuff and political events of the past the history section will remain in Northern Epirus, which is the political-geographical term as established from early 20th century. This article I believe should be focused in society and culture, apart from the basic definitions of minority, related social groups and their distibution.Alexikoua (talk) 22:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Opinion

Can I have your opinion on Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#UNPO_on_numbers about the reliablity of UNPO?Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

greek minority

Den akousa tin gnomi sou gia to mperdema sto Greeks in Albania. Nomizo, oti ine fanerotato oti i pyges aytes milane gia olokliriri tin mionotita, kai oxi mono gia tin mionotita stin Alvania. Telos panton. Ta leme.Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

for sure 400 is too much. The Epirote league includes in it all orthodoxs of Albania, including Albanians, Vlachs, etc. But I was speaking about the ones in Albania today, who for sure counter less then 100,000.Balkanian`s word (talk) 22:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Cham Albanians

Hi, I too think that it should be on hold. Can you make an assestment of the page. Which are the things that should be expanded, or reworded and discuss them? Its nice to see that you have started a finding the greek names of villages in Southern Albania, but be careful to have references on them. See you, Balkanian`s word (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

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Cham Albanians

What was that? Weren`t they hellenized more than a century ago? You know I can bring a bunch of sources for that. Is it a WP:POINT or what? Sorry Alexikoua, but I always thought you were not as nationalist as Athenean is.Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes but the prhase you removed was "more then a century ago", so it had not a "time factor". The problem is that a wiki page is not for people who know the history, but for every reader. And a reader that has no idea of who Souliotes were, needs a minor summary of that process.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Diavase ligo ayto kai des poses fores einai i leksi Alvanoi. Kapia pragmata einai istorika gegonota, oxi, "according to Albanian historians".Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I reworded your edit. Is it ok?Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

No it should have been pp. (total number of pages). For the Albanian language it is explained throughout the books that Albanian-language schools did not exist, but it is better explained in page 212. Cheers, Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Inline "The Ottoman government did its best to prevent the schools from using the Albanian language...Before 1908 any private correspondence in Albanian as well as the possesion of books compiled in this language were considered ilegal" Of course an Albanian -language school, sneeds Albanian-language books.Balkanian`s word (talk) 17:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Northern Epirus

Your last edit seems to POV-ish to me. Of course we know that Greeks were not 10 percent of the population and of course they were not 40 percent of the prisoners. The problem is that your citation actually cites Nicholas Gage, who cannot be a Reliable Source. I think you have to rewritte it. Cheers, Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I have not read Ruche on that place. What does he say?Balkanian`s word (talk) 13:47, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Agree

I agree, actually at that time was proposed a Albano-Greek federation. I have some cool primary sources that you may like to check: [5] [6] [7] [8]. Have a nice day, Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Albanian Diaspora

Here is the corrected version of the map: File:AlbaniansOutsideAlbania.png. Thanks! Scooter20 (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Did recieve my mail? I am sure if it's working. --Factuarius (talk) 19:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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Autonomous Epirus

Hello Alexi! I went over the article and made various copyedits, while also marking two places where there were some minor problems, IMO. I cannot of course review the article for GA as an involved party, but perhaps a bit more should be added as to how the Albanians view the Autonomous Republic. Otherwise well done! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 04:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Painaia

Yes, it is Biris. I think it can stay in the lead, cause it is not the same as Plaka, where the name has Arvanitic origin. Painaia has not arvanitic origin, so it should stay in the lead.Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I have a lot of sources about Cham settlements, but a comprehensive one you can find it here.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Koundouriotis

The source provided is absolutely reliable. I would appreciate it a lot if you did not initiate an edit war. Hydra was an Albanian settlement, and the inhabitants were ethnic Albanians, who later formed greek national consciousness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarandioti (talk • contribs) 11:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Arvanite, Albanian and Shqiptar are different things. 212.150.123.81 (talk) 17:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Paramithia

Unless you have references for those uneferenced sections do not add them again. When you get the references then do as you please. Until then no more adds--Sarandioti (talk) 11:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Margariti

Sarandioti is doing it again in Maragriti, claiming that his Albanian source is actually in English. This is getting ridiculous. Your help would be greatly appreciated. --Athenean (talk) 18:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I do not know if there are English-language books, but I do not see any problem with Albanian-language books. They were signatories of the Albanian Declaration of Independence, thus they are notable. By the way, can you help me, with the diffs on Margariti, Paramythia, Igoumenitsa and Parga, cause there is a user who refuts to discuss the changes he makes, based on ELME, a kind of magazine, for sure not RS. Thanks,Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Despotate of Epirus

I don't know, I was just pointing out that that book does say there were Albanians there. The pro- and anti-Albanian dispute on Wikipedia is tiresome and I don't really care either way. Adam Bishop (talk) 15:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure lots of books mention the Albanians in that period. Of course there are no Albanian documents that old; that doesn't mean they weren't speaking the language, but obviously there is no proof that they were speaking it then either. I think the evidence suggests that they were considered entirely different from the Greeks and other ethnic groups, which implies that they also had a different language, but I don't know if there is any real proof of that. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Despotate of Arta

Hi, I saw the source you gave, but it did not say about the Greek official language. About the legacy it is ok. Can you find me the part when it speaks about the language? Thanks, Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Firstly the book states that they adopted the Byzantine structure of government, not the religion. It speaks about the courts. Bua, et al, as the majority of Albanians were Orthodox since the great schism, they did not became Orthodox when they went in Epirus. Thirdly, the liturgic language of the church, does not imply Greek official language in the state authorities, it implies Greek language in the church. So, I do not get it.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Aleksi, I agree with your point, the problem is that the source does not say that Greeks formed a considerable amount in despotate`s administration. On the Orthodox issue, Albanians were always under the control of the Partriarchate, from the great schism until 1923, it is not something new, that happened in this region.Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I would have no problem if you would give me a source that they were partly Greek, or bilingual. But I cannot assume it. Until them I am removing it from the page. Ok?Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thats what I am talking about "we do not know them". We know that Bua was Albanian, and thats why only Albanian should be. If we have any source that except Albanians there were Greeks too, we may add it.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

3RE Report

I am going to report you for breaking the 3RE rule. I told you to stop but you did not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarandioti (talk • contribs) 20:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Too bad it was you, the one that have been blocked...Alexikoua (talk) 13:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Not for that issue. I made a mistake the following day, so Ι paid for it. It was a sincere mistake. Αεί κράτιστον εστί τα αληθή λέγειν εν παντί καιρώ. I couldn't act differently. --Sarandioti (talk) 16:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Saranda

Hi Aleksi, I do not see any Saranda mentioned in WInnfrith book. What was it about?Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, sorry but even on that book, I see nothing about "one of the first towns that joined the provisional Government of Northern Epirus as a reaction against annexation to Albania". The book states "in the hands of the insurgents", so it is quite a occupation, rather than "joining". Saranda had not at that time Greek population, but Orthodox Albanian and Muslim Roma population (and it was a village indeed). So, does this book states something more specific? By the way, on Koundouriotis, there are about 6 sources that indicate him as Greek-Albanian or vice versa (see on User talk:Athenean, where i brought them). It seems that at that time Arvanites were not neutralized on the Greek population, and retained an Albanian-Greek identity, so the lead should be as per sources. Cheers,Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thats what I say it seems to be a kind of occupation, not "joining".Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Ελεύθερον αδύνατον είναι τόν πάθεσι δουλεύοντα καί υπό παθών κρατούμενον. Nationalism is a bad thing, please realize that. --Sarandioti (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Stratarches

This is some coincidence! I was just about going to ask you on the Στρατάρχης article. I am active in the Greek wiki, but only rarely. As for the discussion you pointed to, I fully agree with you on the issue. Traditional names exist for a reason, conveying a part of the subject's history with them. AFAIK, this is the rule in all WPs, regardless of language. That's why you will find "Solun" in the Slavic-language wikis, etc. Political correctness should not override common usage (and sense). On the article, is there any source that Grivas was actually conferred the title? I had never before heard of that... I'll add it to the Stratarches article. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 14:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration case

I added you as an invovled party in arbitration case about the edit-dispute regions --Sarandioti (talk) 12:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Arvanitika

It is not an Albanian-Greek case, Aleksi. Arvanitika is written in both Latin (Albanian variant) and Greek (Arvanitic, old Albanian variant) alphabet. There is a dispute as to which of these two alphabets should be used. See Arvanitika, and GHM report. I am re-adding them, as the second variant in Arvanitika.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Aleksi, I told you to see the sources that are in Arvanitika`s article, not the article itself. You knwo, it is wiki, lol. Read GHM and the other sources. We are not talking about Standard Albanian, which is just a dialect of Albanian language, we speak about the Albanian alphabet, and it seems to be used alongside the Arvanitic alphabet. So, it is not about the "use of english", is about two variants of the arvanitic names.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Dont base on wikipedia articles, it is Gerou:1994, e.g. which states about Albanian alphabet. We are not talking about Albanian language in here, because Arvanitika isAlbanian language; we are talking about the alphabet used; Greek-based Alphabet, or Latin-based Alphabet.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry, I was not clear: I am saying exactly the same as you. The "Albanian equivalent" is not "Albanian equivalent", but another way to writte it in Arvanitika. It is like Serbo-Croatian language, which is written in both Cyrillic and Latin alphabets. The same here, as per sources, Arvanitika is written in both Greek and Latin alphabets, it has nothing to do with the ALbanian language, it is just the Albanian variant of the Latin alphabet. Do you get my point?Balkanian`s word (talk) 18:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I mean that it is exactely the same as Albanian alphabet, but is one of the two alphabets used for Arvanitika, the other alphabet, which we call Arvanitic Alphabet, was one of the alphabets used for Albanian, until 1908. It is not so clear as we wish it would be.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We are not talking about orthography, we are talking about alphabets. Both ALbanian and Arvanitika have the same orthography (are both written in sound-based letters). GHM, Gerou, et al, state that the alphabet used for Arvanitika, is both Latin (Albanian variant of course, where would they find ë, ç, etc) and Greek (Arvanitika, old Albanian variant actually, Kristoforidhi`s alphabet). It has nothing to do with orthography.Balkanian`s word (talk) 09:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Siege of Berat

Yes, there should be one. However, since of the three the 1455 one is by far the best-known (I don't think there's much info on the 1281 one with the Sicilians, and the clashes in 1914 don't exactly qualify as a "siege" or compare in scale to 1455), perhaps it would be better to create a Siege of Berat (disambiguation), instead of converting Siege of Berat into a dab page. Constantine ✍ 16:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Saranda

Hello Alexicoua. Take a look in in Igoumenitsa's talk nobody answering anymore there. Give me advice on what to do. Is it OK to go to editing? --Factuarius (talk) 23:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

With regards to the recent edit war with I Pakapshem, I would like to remind you that you may be blocked if you violate 3RR or continue edit warring in the future. Best, Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL, sorry.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have not seen your question. Vurgu is a field that overlies on both Saranda and Delvina district, bordered with Chameria in the south (north to Konispol), Saranda to the west, Greece to the east and Delvina to the north, but does not include none of the towns, neither the seacoast.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Dardani

Ok, I now send you this personal message: I do not understand why you reverting Dardani article without any explanation. I would kindly ask you to use Talk:Dardani page and to explain what problems you have with that map that you removing. Also, see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardani#History the map that you posting instead other map is already posted in the image gallery in this history section and it is ridiculous to post same map into same article twice. 212.69.7.235 (talk) 09:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration request declined

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Spata

Cherkezi is online just search with Spata. He says that the clan of Shpata, after left Epirus and Akarnania, spread to Morea and Attica. In Attica they created a town, called Ghin Bua Shpata, which later on, was called just Shpata.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Albania

Their expulsion was not as a result of "Greek justice" but as a result of EDES. The Greek justice accused them after the war was over. EDES accused them, while they were expelling them. Nevertheless, I am rewritting it, per Cham Albanians lead.Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I just rewrote it with the consensus NPOV lead of Cham Albanians. Should, I add that more than 2 thousands were killed or died while being expelled without trail? It is just the NPOV consensus lead of Chams article.Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

On expulsion:it is not about rs or npov. It is just their statement on blockquote in a collapsible table. If there is another thing like that from competent Greek organization, than lets put it. Whats the problem with that?Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Aleksi, it is a blockquote text in a collapsible table in a section called Cham`s reaction. Chams reaction is this one, whats the idea of npov and rs, when we speak about chams reaction?Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

It is not a POV statement, it is Chams reaction. Whats the sense of POV when we are speaking about a reaction? It is a point of view (reaction). There cannot be a neutral point of view reaction...Balkanian`s word (talk) 17:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Blocked for edit-warring in Souliotes

You are blocked for edit-warring in the aforementioned article. I block you, because I regard what happened in the article yesterday as totally unacceptable: almost 20 reverts in a row from both sides within 20 hours, during which, when one user reverted for the third time (including you), he was succeeded by another one. Your rights to question my action are presented below. You were already once blocked for editwarring (violation of the 3RR), so this time the block is 48 hours. Regards.--Yannismarou (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I admit that the block was 100% reasonable, considering 'hot' activity in that article. However, I feel that this kind of action by my side: [[9]] (3 times) was more a kind of compromise than a 'aggressive' move (I've moved part of the lead to a new separate section below, without deleting content in the article). In case the request is accepted, I'll limit my contributions in 'Souliot' related articles in discussion pages only.

Decline reason:

As you said the block is reasonable - In the future, please try to work with other editors and use discussion to resolve your differences instead of edit warring. Shell ^babelfish 21:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Apollonia picture

Apollonia was a colony established with the help of Illyrians 2) Many of the greek minority are either hellenised albanians or vlachs, so only a small minority of them are actually related to ancient greeks. I would suggest you use a different picture. --Sarandioti (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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Chams

I have responded you on Talk:Cham Albanians, please take part.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Ma pes mou oti einai ellinas o Ruches, eipa kai ego toso anti-alvanismos sta grapta tou. lol.Balkanian`s word (talk) 18:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Vasika einai ellinas, alla to eipa giati den to katalavena giati itan toso antialvanos, oxi os argument; ean itan argument tha ton ixa apoteliosi tora lol. Kai oti den vasizete se Alvanika sources einai fanero, kai to oti vasizete mono se primary ellinika einai fanerotato (according to the Byshop of Paramythia, a poor man, bla bla bla).Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I would have "apoteliosi" him in the sense that I would have totally removed him. But, that subsection is not about our consensus (no Greek, no Albanian author), so I will try to find other sources about it.Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Map

Hi Alexi, excellent work on the map! A couple of suggestions to improve it (if you feel like it).

• The spacing on some city names (e.g. Onchesmos, Kourestos, etc...) is uneven and makes them hard to read.
• You might want to use a different color for cities that are settlements of the indigenous Chaonians and Dassaretae (e.g. Himara), and different colors for colonies (Epidamnos, Apollonia).
• You might also consider using a larger font and marker for the larger and more important settlements, like Apollonia and Epidamnus, to differentiate them from the smaller ones.

Just some friendly suggestions. Keep up the good work. --Athenean (talk) 05:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, take a look please[10].

Botsaris

Souliotes were an ethnic ALbanian community which became integrated to the Greek nation. Markos Botsaris lived at a time that Souliotes may have not been integrated into the Greek nation, per Talk:Souliotes.Balkanian`s word (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I am certain that the IP is User:Deucalionite, I am reporting him now.Balkanian`s word (talk) 09:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not reverting it, but if you do not add any comment on the talk page; argument I mean; I will. Balkanian`s word (talk) 09:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Hoxha

I see. I did not doubt that such evidence existed, it is after all stated that he had "previous convictions", what I am more interested in is whether these activities were indeed brigandage or "resistance" activities presented as such. Could you point me to some sources (preferably online)? Cheers, Constantine ✍ 22:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Botsaris

Aleksi, there was no edit war in that page; so please stop refering to it as such. It was me reverting a sockpuppet, thus not an edit war. The page, should be in its prior status (prior IP invasion I mean). You know that I am willing to discuss about it; I put my thoughts in the talk page; but please I get my point that that page is about Botsaris not about Souliotes in general; as I have stated, and the reasoning is put on "Sources" section of the talk page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Chams

Can you discuss in the talk page before making changes to the article? Aigest (talk) 07:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I saw your proposal, but I think that chams talk page is more appropriate place for it. Other editors who have contributed greatly to this article (eg like BW) might have their opinion. You guys have agreed before on this topic so I don't see it difficult to agree again. Aigest (talk) 09:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

See chams talk page and tell me what you think of my prop? Aigest (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Chams

Don't revert Aigest. I am reporting him to AN3. THis is getting ridiculous. --Athenean (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Albanian exodus

I have removed your speedy deletion tag from Albanian exodus. Please note that the reason you gave is not one of the criteria for speedy deletion. If you still wish to nominate the article for deletion, you can do so at AfD. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Chams

I am back, you have my response on the talk page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, you have my answer.Balkanian`s word (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanas Ziko

I have mostly Albanian communist texts in Albanian official history. Seems that none has written enough on the topic, but I consider them trusted (at least no POV here) apart the numbers in the battles which should be confirmed by other authors or Italian or German reports. Aigest (talk) 12:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I have created the page here Thanas Ziko battalion More material will be added according to Albanian history books since I have not found other material other than that of Albanian books. Interestingly there is an Albanian documentary for the Partisan XIX Shock Brigade [11] (Thanas Ziko became part of it later in summer 1944) but I couldn't find it in net. Could you please edit the Greek pronunciation (I am not capable of:) or other categories like Greeks resistance or regulate relevant links to Greek History etc? Thanks Aigest (talk) 13:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Pyrrhus the Greek?

I believe that there should be a discussion about this undisputed ethnicity of Pyrrhus. If we look at what Plutarch had to say about it, Pyrrhus was an Epirotian, and there is no real fact that Epritores were greeks. They were Epirotes. The fut notes in the mentioned text were of Greek scientist or were totally in contradiction with what the Wikipedia text says about it MadAlbanian (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Alexis the Epirotian (that's for sure)

For your participation to the Epirus related articles some (very) old guys hereby awarding you a fustanela and a membership to the replacement company of the 1/38 Evzone Regiment. Congratulations. --MadFactuarius (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Blocked

For your edit warring across multiple articles in last few hours, I have blocked you for 72 hours. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 00:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Notice of possible ARBMAC sanctions

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 00:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)