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I'm still working on that article. I made some rephrasing and a major blockquote addition that I think eliminate any need for your dubious tag (which I've removed). Let me know if you see anything else. <font face="Old English Text MT">[[User:LadyofShalott|<font color="#ee3399">Lady</font>]]<font color="#0095c6">of</font>[[User_Talk:LadyofShalott|<font color="#442288">Shalott</font>]]</font> 22:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm still working on that article. I made some rephrasing and a major blockquote addition that I think eliminate any need for your dubious tag (which I've removed). Let me know if you see anything else. <font face="Old English Text MT">[[User:LadyofShalott|<font color="#ee3399">Lady</font>]]<font color="#0095c6">of</font>[[User_Talk:LadyofShalott|<font color="#442288">Shalott</font>]]</font> 22:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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Goya vey! Masterpieces of Wikipedia

Francisco Goya's art works as commentary on "The Encyclopedia Anybody Can Edit": (On loan from user:Noroton)

No problem

Like I said, I'm starting to get pretty good at the category thing, seems like it's starting to be my niche. ;) Still not as good as some of my fellow categorizers, but I'm working on it. So, you're welcome! :)

I can make no sense of "trubmle chair". Is this a typo? If so, what's it really supposed to say? If not, what on earth is a trubmle chair? LadyofShalott 01:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't play the Jumble (game)? It may be named for Francis Trumble of Philadelphia who was a windsor chair and cabinetmaker. Good catch. Thanks for calling it to my attention. What are those artist's book called again? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok thanks - I actually thought of "trumble", but didn't find it in the dictionary either. As for your question, Artist's book is actually the term. LadyofShalott 02:17, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I find that concept interesting. Custom types are supposed to be in now. Several art shows included work with fonts as graphics, and there was a nice book on an artist's work using various lettering styles at the Paul Smith (fashion designer) store up the road. Anyway... :) Oh and I was just reading that cursive is dying out. And there's a dispute over whether schools should teach the simplified Chinese characters (developed from what were once pictographs) introduced by the communists to promote literacy in mainland China or the traditional form advocated by some Taiwanese and old school CA residents. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:28, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Traditional characters are used in Taiwan and Hong Kong. Simplified characters are used in China and Singapore. Japanese kanji are not quite the same as either, though they do have some simplifications incorporated. Bongomatic 04:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting stuff. Will there be (is there already?) a written language gap then between those areas and the mainland? I know there is already a bit of a language gap between the Cantonese speaking areas and the Mandarin areas. Interesting stuff. India has a lot of language issues also. The states in the south seemed to prefer using English as a national language rather than Hindi, which they saw as a language of cultural imperialism from the North (where Delhi the political capital is located). Fun stuff. Perhaps Esperanto will make a comeback? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't see this before. Belgium is a similar case. If you travel in northern Belgium (and you don't speak Dutch/Flemish), don't bother to try out your French. It's the language of southern Belgium and it's seen as "imperialistic" in the north. English is seen as neutral, and goes down much better. Andrew Dalby 12:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(OR alert) The gap is narrowing, not widening. Even in Hong Kong Mandarin is becoming widespread; in southern China proper it's been universally spoken for decades. The character difference doesn't pose an insurmountable barrier—the pictographs are similar and the differences are somewhat predictable. Chinatowns all over the world have traditionally been Cantonese-speaking, but even there the influx of Mainlanders is making noticeable changes in the prevalence of Mandarin. Don't know much about Indian languages except that "Urdu" is fun to say and write. Bongomatic 17:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what timing. Bongomatic 13:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the timing is uncanny. Something is reported in the LA Times and several days later the New York tabloids pick it up. :) Thanks for the link. Coincidentally I've also working on the Andrew Dalby article and his writings on language extinction. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A friend of yours

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The 2 BC Ms. Senior America?

friend of yours?--kelapstick (talk) 22:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear to me how that is notable beyond possibly warranting a mention in the Ms. Senior America pageant article, but perhaps Sarah Palin has led you to conclude that beauty pageants have great importance? Oprah's friend Gayle, however, is very notable. They drove cross country togetehr! Are you ready for my report on Butte, America? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hahahaahahahahahaha you got overruled by Risker. Tough break kid. :) You could try taking it to Arbcom... :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)You don't think that is enough for passing WP:BIO as winning a notable award, pshaw. Apparently someone else doesn't either as they have reverted it back to a redirect. Apparently a Newsday.com blog isn't enough to establish notability for the masses. Too bad. What about your report, I hear that we can't be friends any more. --kelapstick (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're the best!--kelapstick (talk) 23:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see my dedication in the first edit on that? Should we take Risker to ANI for edit warring? :) Can't Oprah's fans spell? Jeesh! :)

<outdent>So Butte, America was good. But too many MTV era cuts in the great file footage which was the best part. And they didn't explain when the shots were taken or give much explanation or context on the footage used which was too bad. The lady of the mountain(?) Our Lady of the Rockies thing is pretty cool. And it was interesting how after they tunneled under the town a bunch they then dug up the town piece by piece with strip mining. Reminded me a bit of the Giving Tree which is getting bad press as a bad children's book from the P.C. crowd. I also thought the threading through history with economic and union upheavels and its final closing was pretty interesting. Seem like we're returning to the 1970s... only SUVs instead of those hulking cars and China instead of Japan. Anyway, it was pretty cool. I think you'd enjoy it. Some fun file footage and the pacing was pretty quick and the writing and storyline entertaining and not too academic for peons like me with short attention spans. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The shoutout was awesome, I think we can let the edit war slide for now. --kelapstick (talk) 23:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What shootout? I thought the use of dynamite to blow-up rival unions was an exciting tactic. I also liked the ethnic history (mostly Irish, then some Eastern Europeans) which reminded me of One Man's West by David Lavender about mining in the Telluride area (if I remember right). ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you found the dynamite union link interesting, you should watch Giant Mine (film), there is a book too, Dying for Gold I think. I know a few guys that worked there. It's funny how 3 & 4 in List of the tallest statues in the United States are statues of miners. And 2 is looking over a mining camp.--kelapstick (talk) 23:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Which reminds me, I have to get to work on King Miner, in Thompson, Manitoba.--kelapstick (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take a look. Isn't it strange that there aren't more Gail Kings? There is an E. Gail King doctor who is somewhat notable. I thought the corporate history and Anaconda's investment in CHile and then the nationalization with Allende, and then his assasination (with our support?) and then Isabel Allende (which wasn't mentioned in the movie) is interesting too. Brazil is rocking with resource extraction and a big oil find. I noticed Grundle 2600 was trying to add note that despite a certain leader's promises to restrict off-shore drilling that we then gave 2 billion in loan gurantees to do it elsewhere. And Cali and LA's history of oil production past and present is interesting too. The idea that sustainability and responsibility is maintained when these resources are sourced elsewhere is a lot of bullocks as far as I'm concerned. But maybe it's good to save our stuff for later? Who knows. I'm going to wait for a car that runs on jute. Not biofuels mind you, straight jute. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When they clean the water can they reclaim the heavy metals for commercial use? It seems like that wouldn't be that hard to do and on a large scale would be useful. No? Is it not in large enough quantities in the water? I guess not. A lot of settling ponds out there, but strip mining seems more damaging though safer for workers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Kelapstick, nine deaths in an explosion might seem like a lot in Canada, but just the first in Butte took more than a hundred as I recall. It's time to scale up! Why weren't you working on the Ironworld Interpretive Center, now known as Minnesota Discovery Center (it seems Iron is out in this era]]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well it is all about percentages of the total population, when 9 people die in Canada it is the equivalent of 90 in the US.--kelapstick (talk) 15:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but a Canadian's value is only 2/3 that of an American, although recently the values have become more equivalent. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Arupa Patangiya Kalita requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Drdisque (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lives!--kelapstick (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about the new non-fiction aspect of it. Quite intriguing n'est pas?--kelapstick (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have compiled over one hundred sources from Google news and books. I have not gone through all of them, so I doubt they will all be helpful, but I'll see what I can do about saving the article. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 23:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was quite surprised that there was no sources that included Stephen Harper in a human suit. Perhaps he is more like a Robot.--kelapstick (talk) 23:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The most sources I am finding involve mythology and early Christian gnosticism, which I think will give the article more legitimacy. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I had one from The Forward that had reference to Abraham being met by three angels in human disguise, but I couldn't make morale of the lesson, which I felt would be important. I think it has to do with hospitality. --kelapstick (talk) 23:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just started, but I have what it will become at User:Scapler/Human disguise. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 23:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me Scaps. You're going to do a merge or you're trying to rewrite the whole article? Your Fox bit reminded me of an article I was reading about Raccoons posing as humans. :) Isn't that type of thing (animals disguising themselves as humans) quite a common thing in children's literature? Also, I was surprised that there wasn't more discussion of the trope's (if that's the right word) use in cartoons. Don't they unzip human costumes? And I was also frustrated that there weren't better sources on biblical figures appearing in human disguise. Anyway, I don't think there's any question that it's a notable subject. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I will merge. Right now, I just want to work with new material, then I will add in the article bits where appropriate. Just make the job easier for me :). Cheers! Scapler (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that my incorporation of Buffy the Vampire Slayer makes the article totally awesome.--kelapstick (talk) 22:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That should change a lot of minds at the AfD. ;) Can you work in something that relates to the Simpsons and South Park? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
God I hope so. Did you take a look at that source, it is increasable, a book devoted to the moral message of the TV show! I should probably post its link somewhere, it could be helpful to WikiProject Buffy.--kelapstick (talk) 22:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ribs

Look at Best in the West Nugget Rib Cook-off, now I am going to have to make a 5000 charachter article to make this ready for DYK....Argh. --kelapstick (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too slow kid. That's a VERY important event though, so I know you can come up with 10 or 15,000 characters at least. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well I would have worked harder on it, but I was saving it for the bacon challenge...--kelapstick (talk) 22:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Leave it be and hope it gets speedy deleted? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a reliable source [1]? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely.--kelapstick (talk) 23:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a notice to all who participated in the recent AfD of Human suit, here, that resulted in a consensus for delete. This article has been recreated as "Human disguise", and has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human disguise. Thank you. Verbal chat 21:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Resilient Barnstar

The Resilient Barnstar
I am proud to award you this barnstar for your continued excellent work improving Human disguise. Such efforts greatly inprove the project. Good job! Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MQS. Just trying to improve the encyclopedia! All the help is great. We'll see how it all works out. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new stub

Lots of work still to do, but look at First Baptist Church (Montgomery, Alabama). Enlarge the photo, and see the little cutie on the steps. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I pictured you as being taller. ;) I'm going to live a little off-line for a bit, but I'll take a look at the article soon. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Halloween!

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Photograph of my Halloween-themed Hush Puppies plush basset hounds in my bedroom.

As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 23:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Jack E. Anderson

Just a quick note to inform you that I found your article Jack E. Anderson very interesting and nominated it for inclusion in the Did you know portion of the main page. I also went ahead and added a couple of cats for it. I can also help with extending the bare URLs in the reference section out if you would like. If you have any questions feel to ask me. again nice work :) Calmer Waters 08:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yes, it's an interesting subject. The sourcing isn't fantastic... gulp... but I did the best I could. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, ChildofMidnight. You have new messages at Calmer Waters's talk page.
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Glorified rice photo -so near yet so far

Just shoot me now - [2] ;-) Geoff Say something! 10:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like that photo. Very mysterious. The actual stuff doesn't seem nearly as glamorous. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New disambig page

I see that you recently moved Jack Anderson to Jack Anderson (columnist) so that a disambiguation page could be moved to the previous title. I hope you have reviewed Wikipedia:Disambiguation, and particularly the section "Links to disambiguated topics" -- as it states there, "A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links. Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name." As it stands now, there are nearly 100 other Wikipedia articles containing links to [[Jack Anderson]] that incorrectly point to a disambiguation page. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the disambiguation is not reverted, I am counting on user:Drmies to do the required clean up. Thank you for notifying me so I can make sure to follow through in giving him a helpful reminder. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Child

OfMidnight. I see you hang out on Jimbo's talkpage some. Hope he enjoys that book (what was its title again?), if he reads it. Happy Samhain.↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 17:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Halloweenie! The book I was asking about is Andrew Dalby's (user:Andrew Dalby) The World and Wikipedia. Here's the author's webpage with some juicy excerpts. Apparently I'm mentioned in one flattering bit, so I can only assume the book is most excellent! And searching for the link just now I noticed user:David Shankbone's latest blog post [3] is a review of the book (which I haven't read yet). If I can get mentioned in a few more sources maybe I too can get an article??? One can dream anyway... "ChildofMidnight is a writer, photographer, artist, economist, historian, gastronome and philosopher. He is an outspoken defender of free speech and an opponent of censorship and bias. He has been noted for his strong criticisms of Alabama's lack of passing offense and the Yankees' use of steroids, bad umpires, and a bloated payroll, but likes Reggie Jackson and Ricky Henderson. One of the most loved and cherished Wikipedians, his opinions and article contributions are treasured by all... ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're famous! ( -- and the "trenches-style" gridiron action of the Crimson Tide is all his fault).↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 18:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You all best remove that vandalism, you hear? Drmies (talk) 04:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's not vandalism ('tho this might be?):

The biography not only humanizes Coach Bryant by talking in detail regarding some of his vices, it also perhaps adds to his legend by discussing how he was able to get the most out of his players and help them as people.   ¶   The book includes several humorous anecdotes, including when he secretly went for a Hollywood screen test while the Alabama team for which he was an assistant coach was playing in the Rose Bowl in the 1930s. Numerous Alabama people saw him and chided him about it.   ¶   He also went with some sports writers on a tour of his former hometown in Arkansas one time, and one writer looked at the humble setting and asked him if he was born in a log cabin. His tongue-in-cheek reply was that Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin, but that he was born in a manger.--- (Review of The Last Coach: A Life of Paul “Bear” Bryant by Allen Barra in) THE CHATENOOGAN

    "Extra credit" (link)

↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 15:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Greyhound Bus Station (Montgomery, Alabama)

Updated DYK query On November 2, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Greyhound Bus Station (Montgomery, Alabama), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

SoWhy 01:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi from Russian Bear

  • Hi! Trans country is a country divided geogrphically between Europe and Asia, I think. It is the case of Russian Federation ))) Middle East still remains on the Aeroflot route list and never has been merged into Asia ))) To poke a bear - fancy allusion, thanx ))) --Dimitree 14:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitree (talkcontribs)
  • As far as I see, some of English-speaking Wiki audience really dislikes Russians and Russia. Here is a very significative example [4]. Even do not know why because we are all the same - people of the Earth. The rest are politics and their games. It is silly to hate people because of some objective differences between you and them. The history repeats... So, Child of Midnight, what sould I do? --Dimitree 12:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitree (talkcontribs)
It might have something to do with the nuclear missiles y'all tried to put in Cuba, the Iron Curtain, and the gulags for political dissidents. That kind of thing was looked down upon here until quite recently. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's not involve politics, please! US and EU made many other things violating international laws: invasions in Panama, Grenada, Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Serbia and Kosovo (!!!), Taiwan, Cuba and so on. I'm just trying to be objective. Nothing more. But here, in Wiki, it is so politicised (? - how to say correctly?). My question is: how the information from your page, ChildofMidnight, supposed to be private, is getting public? Thanx! --Dimitree 18:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitree (talkcontribs)
You forgot to mention the Philippines, Hawaii, Mexico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands (and more recently the moon). But of course all of our battles are wars of liberation my dearest Dimitree. ;) We're constantly liberating places, we can hardly help ourselves! Let freedom reign (or is it rein?). Politicized is correct. We Americaners prefer Zs over Ss wherever possible. It's an expression of our independence over the British colonialist imperialist oppressors. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I thought you just told me that the Middle East was still a destination for Aeroflot. But now I see that it has been usurped into "Southwest Asia". What can I tell you? It's the Brits at work again. They are constantly putting Us where they don't belong and generally mucking about with tea and crumpets. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • And so on... I'd like to know how it is possible that this [[5]], privately written to you only, got a public access? May I suppose you are friends with Jasepl or even the same person? Anyway, it is not polite, at least, to share things written friendly to you. Thanx!--Dimitree 20:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitree (talkcontribs) [reply]
  • I'm talking about this, posted by User:Jasepl. May be, in my 30, I do not understand what is polite and what is not?...
As for English-speaking editors biased against Russian-speaking editors: so what can I=we do? We are aliens here, in English Wiki. We can just follow the rules established here and try to defend ourselves when we are attacked. No help from no one. Even Admins are subjective. The example was the article Aeroflot — Russian Airlines destinations nominated for deletion but saved because "no consensus was found". As you perfectly know. Nothing else to add...
As for Americans/British. I'm really sorry for their=your vision of the world: no democracy, no dictatorship - every nation merits the authority it has. But we are - people of the Earth - we are all the same: white, black, yellow or red. Different are politicians - white, black, yellow or red. They play their games, frequently abusing and denying our interests. But in my opinion, we have to be much more kind and tolerant towards each other. We must no use our nationalities/countries for provocations (as it has been done here)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitree (talkcontribs) 21:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguating

You would have to find a bot. :) I'm sure there's one out there that would do it. Here are some of the bots. Has to be a full list somewhere. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 01:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'd think I'd know some bots but I tend to do everything manually. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 06:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 30 Rock

Hey there. As you know, the lead "serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article", per Wikipedia:Lead section. Therefore, the majority of what I removed is actually in the article already. In terms of what I removed, there was: the executive producers (they're already in the infobox, and I doubt the average reader even cares), the excess amount of info on the seasons (which I trimmed down to what is really needed), some awards (since they're already in the awards section and don't have to be repeated), and a little info on ratings (which I believe were false anyway). So basically, there was no new information that I removed, just some info that was repeated and not needed. Hope that helps, Corn.u.co.piaDisc.us.sion 04:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notable?

Is this guy, Jake Warga, notable? I don't see it, but I know you've got a special love for journalists. Drmies (talk) 05:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. It appears to me that he's not just a talking head reading a teleprompter, but that he's doing original reporting from the field. I don't know if that has anything to do with Wikipedia's standards, but I would say that the nature of his work and having it carried by major media makes him notable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you write a proposal to codify notability for journalists? Honestly, I don't know if we have one--but I think not, considering that you and I have been in various discussions (with others) about how journalists might establish notability. BTW, did you hear the bit on Prairie Home Companion last week about chocolate and bacon cake? Drmies (talk) 06:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, but I have an out of focus picture of a maple bacon bundt cake I took a while back. I steer clear of policy pages. I'm in enough trouble trying to stop our feistier content contributors from getting blocked indefinitely by our tripped out teenage admins. Speaking of which, you've been a little testy of late. Why so partisan on the whole epic issue? I've noticed the "experts" always get worked up over their turf. I guess it has to do with ego. We're not that far evolved from the apes after all. Do they do pissing contests? I thought they were more about beating their chests. Was there some genetic interference from dogs? Thankfully I am a very very humble individual who is always happy to defer to those with greater expertise than I have on any particular issue. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Tripped out teenage admins": I'm sensing some ageism here ;). Cheers! Scapler (talk) 06:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget gender bias, bigotry, xenophobia (particularly against Dutch academics), elitism, fundamentalism, and a disdain for gingers. Think of me as Wikipedia's Cartman. ;) I would have said pre-teen, but I didn't want to get a civility warning from GeorgeWilliamHerbert. (Hey Doc, trying to remember the term "ginger" I came across Redheadday. Cool. Now if we can just combine it with La Tomatina). ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Pissing contest, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pissing contest. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.  Sandstein  09:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So little respect for my important work here. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to add a see also, but I see that there is not yet an article on farting contests. Would you say that subject is more or less notable? Perhaps there is a need for a broader article on feats of strength as contests of adolescent male hazing? ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Was this where you heard the reference about a skunk?--kelapstick (talk) 17:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I saw it referred to in some academic (or so it seemed) disputes. It seems to be a colloquialism and folk wisdom. I suppose the implication is that the skunk is a much better sprayer (so to speak), or at least that a pissing contest with one would be a highly undesirable battle that would leave the skunk's rival with quite a stench. I suppose it can be used to insult one's opponent as well? Like don't get into the mud with pigs? I find it an interesting topic actually. Perhaps I've come onto a new passion (inbetween bites anyway). ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also this is an interesting dictionary definition.--kelapstick (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's a good one. I think I actually have it open in one of my other windows. So much to add. It will be at FA in no time. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly not reliable as is, but this indicates the origin (and maybe how to find it) as MF stated at the AfD. --kelapstick (talk) 18:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Jeesh Kelapstick, that's a long enough wall of text to work through. You couldn't have let me know it was at the bottom? ;) Of course I got sidetracked trying to decipher what the heck the "fig for a chink" thing is all about. Are you trying to get me in even more trouble? With friends like these who needs... an enema? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually very interesting because it suggests the skunk bit was involved with the first usage, correct? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is what CTRL+F is for, I believe that the skunk bit was the first.....It is a fascinating topic, almost as much as my Franco-Nevada project.--kelapstick (talk) 18:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely! And when it comes to Canadian royalty owners one wonders just how much the Prince of New Foundland and the Duke of Ontario are actually worth in today's market. We Yanks can hardly conceive, let alone fathom, such monarchical practices as trading in titled personages. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I try to avoid hitting control-anything lest my computer set off some sort of thermonuclear explosion. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:25, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An aside en Francais

Qui pisse contre le vent se rince les dents.

Concours de pisse et même concours pissant semblent aussi exister.

N'est pas? I don't speak Frenchy. Are either of these any good? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where are they from, the first is a figure of speech, something about, he who pees into the wind, uses it to wash themself. The second is explaining that examples of the competition exist.--kelapstick (talk) 19:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah that makes sense. They were part of a web discussion on how to translate it's best not to get into a pissing contest with a skunk into French. At least I think that's what the discussion was about. I closed the window now, but the page came up on a google search. I was hoping there was a quiant French rhyme that said the same thing (or similar). Merci beaucoup (I had to look up the spelling...). ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The first actually has to do with teeth. Which is odd, Qui pisse contre = Who pisses (I assume) against....le vent =the wind se rince les dents=washes their teeth? I don't really understand French phrases...It could literally mean, if you pee into the wind you will brush your teeth with it.--kelapstick (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
C'est fantastique! Yes, they have great phrases and a delightful way with words.

Pissing contest photos

There are some great photos: outside the Franz Kafka museum in Prague (Czech Republic) [6] (and in winter [7]), [8] and something to do with the World Cup organizing committee's battle with the media in South Africa (as best I can make out) [9]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC) K-Stick, this [10] was one of the places I saw the skunk bit used early on so I thought it might have some specific relevance to a particular dispute, but I guess it doesn't. Here's the Fench-English forum discussion where it's discussed (if you're interested) [11]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you could find the book in hard copy, that would probably be enough to push it over the edge, it looks like that section might be actually about the phrase, but the next page is removed. Are you not putting the dictionary definition in, it addresses the subject in detail, although it is "Urban Dictionary", it's a book and not user-generated.--kelapstick (talk) 21:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Or maybe it's just about the discussion...--kelapstick (talk) 21:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's clearly notable regardless. I have no idea what the fuss is about. I considered adding this "modern fable" to the discussion [12], but it seems kind of lame and nonsensical. I just found a quote where Lyndon Johnson supposedly says something along the lines of: it's best not to get into a pissing contest with a polecat. Now I have to go see what a polecat is and why I'm being dragged to ANI by an abusive admin. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pissing contest continued

K-Stick, would you be able to work in this definition I found at the online urban dictionary: "When one enters a public restroom to find all the urinals are being occupied "What's going on in here? Is this some sort of pissing contest?"

Also: When two or more males gather around a toilet and urinate, "sword fighting" with their piss stream. The winner is declared when he is the last one pissing. (use in a sentence) I challenge you to a pissing contest! ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly notable examples, I will see what I can do.--kelapstick (talk) 23:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

I have replied on my talk page. See also Talk:Pissing contest. Biscuittin (talk) 00:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Franco

Appreciate the effort, but I do have expansion do do in the current, like listing the current assets, that shows they are into more than gold royalties, haven't had a chance to dig out a non-primary source. Although their website lists all of them. --kelapstick (talk) 19:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, they only had royalty assets, they had not actual mines (as they had sold the only one they owned outright prior to the take over).--kelapstick (talk) 19:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm very interested in pushing my version and exercising ownership over the article you've been working on. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
apparently someone thought your assessment of my contributions to the square milk jug were over stated.--kelapstick (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reported

I have reported your harassment at WP:ANI. – On a different matter, as I saw you asked about those oversighted edits: it was nothing to do with you; just a very obnoxious banned user who's been after me for a while and who routinely posts tedious "outing" attempts about me on the talk pages of every user he thinks I'm in conflict with. Fut.Perf. 21:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear about the outing attempts. I saw just now that Jehochman closed the AE thread (in what seems to me to be a very dubious manner that disregarded the good faith comments made in the discussion so far as I can tell, and about which I've requested an explanation from him). Hopefully that ends any need to continue the dispute between us (unless you can find a new venue to try and attack me so you can get the embers going again?). It's very unfortunate that Jarucek is stuck with a month-long-block because you and a couple of your admin friends have chosen to play I-didn't-hear-that and can't bear to correct your mistakes despite all those giving you feedback that your actions are punitive and disruptive to collegial encyclopedia building. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One of your favourite admins—and mine too of course—has reopened it. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I actually think GeorgeWilliamHerbert means well. It's just that his warnings tend to be highly uncivil and unhelpful. I have no idea why he doesn't consider a more collegial and collaborative approach. Once editors are given tools to block, many of them seem to assume that bullying, intimidation, and force are the only means at their disposable in resolving conflicts. Of course those approaches only add to the incivility, disruption, and tension that undermines our collaborative encyclopedia building efforts. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Civility warning ??

You posted a "Civility warning" at my Talk page. No diff(s), no link(s), not even a name of the matter(s) or person(s). I'm not even sure we've had a discussion. Did you posted on the wrong Talk page by mistake? --Philcha (talk) 08:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magnum Crimen

I've provided reliable information about the Vatican ban of this book. You might find it appropriate to fix the existing article text. See my 'More information about the Vatican ban' note on the end of the article talk page.--166.32.193.81 (talk) 15:14, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Collaborate?

Hey CoM, given that you're the patron saint of lost causes, would you like to collaborate on M. S. Subbulakshmi? This isn't a lost cause in terms of notability (your area of expertise) but rather a lost cause in terms of biographical material available to get the article to GA status, an obstacle I hope to conquer. I could therefore use some help in source mining for such material. Let me know. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 19:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working on that article. I made some rephrasing and a major blockquote addition that I think eliminate any need for your dubious tag (which I've removed). Let me know if you see anything else. LadyofShalott 22:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ha

Ha ha ha ha ha! Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]