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== [[Saw 3D]] ==

Hey Darkwarrior, did you pass Saw 3D for GAN? [[User:GamerPro64|GamerPro64]] ([[User talk:GamerPro64|talk]]) 00:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
:Look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saw_3D this] and tell me what you see. [[User:GamerPro64|GamerPro64]] ([[User talk:GamerPro64|talk]]) 00:43, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
::The correct answer is that the article is still at GAN. You didn't close the review. [[User:GamerPro64|GamerPro64]] ([[User talk:GamerPro64|talk]]) 00:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
:::You just look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations#Pass this] to show what templates to use and after passing, place it at [[WP:GA]]. [[User:GamerPro64|GamerPro64]] ([[User talk:GamerPro64|talk]]) 01:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I just noticed it passed. I knew it was good article, but I was prepared to fix any problems that it may have had. I had been working on since before ''Saw 3D'' started filming (GroundZero helped). :) About the picture issue you brought up. You think it's really too crowded? :( I don't want to remove the Cary picture.. maybe James and Leigh? —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 03:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
::It's not a major issue, just seemed excessive, but of them all I wouldn't lose Cary, he's probably the most notable franchise character after Jigsaw and Amanda. You could always get rid of the Gina Holden one, place Russell there instead. Even putting (Joyce) there I barely remember who she was but then it was just a bad, unmemorable film. I think its worth of being GA either way, it was just a personal comment so if you think its fine as is, leave it. It doesn't harm your ability to read what is going on in that section.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 12:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

== The table at [[Scream (film series)]] ==

I know what you're trying to do, but it doesn't work. I'm seeing at 80% the same thing that you're seeing at 100%. A gap between the first line and the table. This will happen depending on screen size / resolution because of the infobox on the right. It looks pretty weird when the main table only goes 3/4 of the way across the page though! Try making your browser window smaller to emulate this. The problem (and to be honest, it's not a major one - purely aesthetic) is that if the two tables bump into each other, it puts the main table below the infobox. Maybe there's a way to stop this happening, but I don't know the markup. --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 12:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
::80% of my screen isn't available (small monitor at work you see), so it automatically sends the table below the infobox. I tried to have a look for some markup that will make the table take up all available white space, but haven't found anything yet. --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 12:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Best I could do would be email you a screen dump... --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 13:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
::::Okay - I saw the response sent at the helpdesk, and that seems to solve the problem... --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 15:08, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

== Peer reviews ==

You are very welcome for both reviews. I thought I had responded here to your earlier post - sorry. Yours, [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub><font color="green">&gt;&lt;&gt;</font></sub><small>&deg;</small><sup><small>&deg;</small></sup>]]''' 20:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

== Scream box office ==

Yes, all of them (including ''Scream'') have been adjusted. So, ''Scream'' made 293 million in literal dollars, but when adjusted it is more than that because the value of the dollar increased. As for domestic over global it depends on what you mean. Are you meaning, global franchises (e.g., including films like ''Ju-On''?) or global as in the foreign money that films like ''Scream'', ''Friday the 13th'', etc. brought in? If it is the former, then I wouldn't even know where to begin. The initial source that I used only compared a handful of horror franchises, and they were American franchises. Not to mention the fact that these American franchises are probably more well known around the world than any foreign franchise. You can virtually go anywhere and show them Freddy or Jason and they'd know who they were. If you mean the international grosses for these films, then no there is not enough information. Most of the older franchises don't have a lot of reported foreign box grosses, even though we know they were released internationally. Take ''Friday the 13th'' for example. I cannot find a reliable source for foreign box office for at least half of the films. Now, even if I could I still could not use those figures when comparing franchises in adjusted dollars because I'd probably never be able to find conversions for the foreign dollars in each of the different countries that the film's appear in. That was why I kept the list to comparing other "American" horror franchises to each other because I cannot find any information for non-American films and then it would be next to impossible to try and adjust for inflation with every different type of currency being used for the foreign releases. I mean, Europe uses the Euro now, but 20 year ago they were all using different currency. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 13:01, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

:Someone has converted them to dollars, but what they have not done is inflated the original currency to 2010 rates and then converted them to dollars. For instance, let's say that we had the foreign totals for every film in each franchise. What we do not have are the adjusted rates for each country. If I simply took the converted figure and adjusted that, it would not be accurate because each countries currency does not adjust on the same level and rate. Thus, the U.S. dollar could be worth 5 times as much today as it was in 1980, but the Yen might only be with 3 times as much in the same time period. Thus, I would be inflating a figure greater than it was actually worth. That is why I don't include them in the adjusted rates. Obviously, as you noticed, I cannot compare them each on an unadjusted rate including the foreign figures because we don't have even estimated foreign figures for a lot of the older horror films because we didn't have the internet then and it wasn't as easy to put in one location like Box Office Mojo or something. It's great information, it's just hard to actually compare it when it's not accurate. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 17:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

== File naming/re-naming ==

The basic thought is for making file names that are as decriptive as possible. But when we look here:[[Wikipedia:File mover]] for reasons to make name changes: [[Wikipedia:File_mover#What_files_should_not_be_renamed.3F| don't rename]], it sounds like they should be left as is because the name problem isn't a big one. You can file a request for the name changes here if you want. [[:Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming]] HTH! [[User:We hope|We hope]] ([[User talk:We hope|talk]]) 21:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
:In this case, I think whatever is on the box has to stay there. The same would be true for adding anything to the image of the box-you wouldn't be able to do that because once either of those things are done, the image you're using stops being an actual copy of the cover and would have an invalid license since that's based on the actual cover.

:Have seen a lot of album and DVD covers wind up being deleted because it turned out that what was supposedly the music cover turned out not to be an actual one. Some fans of various artists and groups have made what's known as "fantasy covers", where the fan re-designs the music cover. Much of this (films, music, games) truly does have more than one legitimate cover created by the company for marketing purposes and if there's an alternate cover that has the wording removed, you certainly would be able to re-upload a new/different version of the file. [[User:We hope|We hope]] ([[User talk:We hope|talk]]) 21:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

== Ghostface Awareness ==

I was wondering why it didn't fit. I mean, he turned right around to face her, appearing to have known where she was. With Gale, we did not see him chase her to that area, but she found he was there searching it already. Also, when she almost walks into view of him, he immediately checks the room she was in. And though he had no reason to believe she was in it, he continues to follow the path she was taking to attempt escape. Then there was the bathroom stall incident, which should speak for itself. There are other occurrences too, such as Ghostface knowing Sidney was about to attract attention to herself despite not being able to see her actions. Then there's his tendency to call people at some pretty pinpoint times, such as Casey right before she was to call the police (after he rang the doorbell), or CiCi when she was standing right in front of the closet he was hiding in (before his physical attack). There were just too many 'coincidences' of it IMO. I don't find being klutzy at times to be that major a detractor. Besides, I only recall him truly falling of his own accord once; the first chase on Sidney in ''Scream 2'' (bumping and falling over the lamp and couch). He's usually only downed by something his target does in self-defense, hardly obvious things. We can't get ''something'' about his awareness in there? [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 18:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::What you're talking about isn't awareness it's omniscience. He "turns" or "looks" when its dramatic for the script, with Gale he was just searching, he doesn't know shes there or he'd have found her, its all just for drama. He was searching Casey's house because he couldn't find her and turned to see her, he wasn't posing waiting for her to look through the window. Basically, he has some abnormal physical attributes but he isn't REALLY super strong or REALLY able to take a bullet but one thing he does not have is the ability to know where people are or that they're about to use the phone any more than you or I know where someone is or that they're about to use the phone because they just called out "I'm about to use the phone". The toilet thing was awkwardly done and silly but it still doesn't mean he can see through walls or sense when someone has their ear pressed against a wall. So no, he doesn't have super awareness, he's just one step ahead of the person he is attacking because he is prepared and they're scared and not thinking straight.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 18:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::::The majority of his 'supernatural abilities' can be written off as only being present for the benefit of the story or for 'dramatic effect'. However, they are also listed. I see only his stealth abilities as being something the character seems to 'truly possesses', though the others are listed too (his 'strength' and 'durability'). I feel something should be said for what I was describing as well, considering there's been plenty of instances of it shown throughout the series, even considering those scenes. For a quick instance, look back at the Casey occurrence; going within the boundaries of the story itself, it seems a bit too coincidental that he just happened to end up at that exact window at that exact time (when she poked out a little too far that time) with his back turned just to turn right on the spot to look her dead in the eye when she stood up. Notice he wasn't searching at that precise moment but just standing there. [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 23:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::The other abilities are used often and with consistency. He is always able to appear and disappear when he needs to, hes always able to overpower people and hes always able to take a vase to the face or beer bottle to the crotch. What you are arguing is that he began searching for Casey in the house, then decided he knew where she was and posed while waiting for her to rise up exactly in front of that window. Plus again theres the incidence that he only came close to Gale because the other doors in the area were locked, as Gale discovered and after going in there he still didn't know where she was. He isn't any more aware than any other character, he just has the advantage of being on the attack rather than the defense, being armed and having some sort of plan in place like walking out of the emergency doors in the cinema as soon as he's done stabbing Maureen. It's not one of his particular abilities, its just dramatic coincidence.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I'm going to say fair enough, since I do realize that it is true that the other abilities listed did tend to be showcased more often and bluntly. No matter; I just feel there was enough to show this as well [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 08:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::You can always take it to hte discussion page for the article itself and get others opinions, I don't own the page, but I firmly believe he has no special awareness, just dramatic license while the strength has him taking our two armed cops and lifting bodies straight over his head[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 11:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::When has he ever lifted someone straight over his head before?? I recall him lifting people before, but only to throw them from something (like a balcony), which wouldn't require exception strength. An overhead lift might, but, like I said, I can't recall him ever doing that [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 18:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Didn't he lift CiCi over his head? I thought he lifted her pretty high and in three, he didnt lift anyone (I think) but they specifically went out of their way in editing to have him kick Cotton's ass despite Cotton being pretty buff. I can't recall the entire films off the top of my head, they obviously overpowered Steve despite him being a big, tough football player, overwhelmed Sid and Casey easily even with guys being a bit stronger than girls,, put the knife straight through that wall (though it could be some weak wood), er......overpowered Derek in the house, beat up two cops. I can't remember everything. Remmeber I'm not saying he is super strong, like Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers are super strong, hes just shown, in costume, to be generally be physically more powerful and capable of doing things huge wrestlers normally do while out of costume they get their ass kicked pretty easily.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 18:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::CiCi was not lifted overhead. Merely the same way Tyson was in Scream 3; just enough to get them over the ledge really. He did defeat Cotton, but, he hardly 'kicked his ass'; Cotton was actually on the upper hand when Ghostface merely hit him with the bookshelf to turn the tables. A bookshelf he only moved about a few inches at best, and in a very quick motion (since Cotton was leaning over to retrieve the golf club). No notable 'super' strength there. They may have overpowered Steve, but, as you said, 'they'; it can become much easier to overpower someone if you outnumber them. Overwhelming either Sidney or Casey wouldn't have taken much strength to do, considering they were female (while both killers were male) and Sidney wasn't hardened like she became later in the series. He did put the knife through the stall and later the door to the Frat house. That, indeed, would take some strength to do. Though, it was only in Scream 2 that he tended to display the strength to simply puncture through objects like that; in Scream 1, he stabbed at Sidney when she was backed against a door (like in 2), but, he did not stab through it. In Scream 3, when Christine was trapped in the room with Ghostface trying to get in, he couldn't stab right through the door then either. He had to work the knife in (and that was with the intention to stab through it). Besides, why can we use the bathroom scene to show his strength but not his awareness? I mean, before you said it was silly! Also, we never actually see what happens between Ghostface and Derek. But, from what it seems, he merely sliced him then ran off. Derek may have been overpowering ''him''. As for the cops, he took one out by surprise and the other by outmaneuvering him. He didn't really ''overpower'' either (except for, perhaps, that slamming the second cop into the door repeatedly). The whole point was about Ghostface (the killer in costume); the awareness addition wasn't meant to spread to the people behind the mask, as the page seemed meant for the character of Ghostface itself [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 02:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Sorry for butting in.. but have you ever wore a Ghostface mask? You can't really see clearly. lol —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 03:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

== Scream 4 ==

I see IPs editing Ghostface on the Scream characters article. I'm sure they are adding the killer(s). I have taken it off my watchlist as I will shit if they actually used the edit summary and add the killer. LOL —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 03:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:Shouldn't [[Scream (film series)]] be [[Scream (franchise)]]? Also what was Craven's cameo? I didn't catch it. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 23:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm assuming you're watching this page. I don't think its a franchise because it has no real external elements to it like a video game, books, comics, etc. It has merchandise though so maybe that counts and I think they are releasing/released an IPhone game to tie in with the movie. And Craven's cameo was as customer in the book store when Sid is doing her speech[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Perhaps the soundtracks count as well.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Looking at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_franchise it might actually qualify as a franchise.
:::::Not sure what Wiki Film guidelines are for franchise pages. Oh I didn't really pay attention to the people in the book store. lol —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 00:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::Well it's too late now, just went ahead and changed every link, so get used to it! I didn't either really but it all was going so fast I really was trying to just catch as much as I could. Thats certainly the problem with not being able to rewind. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 00:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I've read that a LOT of cut out of the final product, comparing to what was in the trailers. I hope we get a good Director's Cut or something.. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 01:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Well for a start there was a picture that shows one of the two girls in the opening strung up and blood everywhere so theres at least one gone, plus Culkin talking about Sidney being royalty which I'm guessing they cut because they rolled the dice to decide who would be in the finale and thought it didn't fit anymore. Which reminds me, the pages might be missing the uncut runtime, I think Scream in cinemas is shorter than Scream on DVD. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 01:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I have kept up with a lot of just-released films here and I have never seen such different box office figures thrown around like with Scream 4. Every article and even Box Office Mojo had or have different figures. What the hell? Does anyone really know? —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 23:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
::I guess it depends on their sources, it doesn't help that you've got people genuinely trying to contribute and people just pulling figures out of their asses. I've never followed a film on its launch before so I don't know if its always like this but I imagine its going to be in flux for a while, its why I haven't bothered adding the figures to the franchise page. Have you tried the-numbers.com, its apretty solid source i've been lead to believe.

::http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Scream-4 says its on $38 million worldwide, $18 million internationally. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:15, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

:::[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2011/04/22/scream-4-wes-craven-speculates-on-the-franchises-future-and-more-prescott-family-drama/#more-57640 Check this out] How fucked up can someone's life be? lol —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 02:04, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Who? Sidney's? Yeah, she shouldn't have died but she should have been set on the sidelines and a happy life, someone like her should have a huge gun with her at all times. It'd make the movies shorter but how could you ever possibly relax when the people closest to you keep trying to kill you. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 11:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Yes. This part: "There will be some continuation of the drama of Sidney Prescott's family and the ghosts that haunt it". I guess they'll be news if 5 is green light soon. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 22:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::I don't think it will be green lit as fast as the others, its really not doing all that well. I mean its not bombing but Scream 2 made 33 million in its OPENING weekend and this is on like 49 after one week, or two and that's without adjusting for inflation. I honestly expected it to easily become the highest grossing Scream film just based on how much modern movies generally pull in. I can see it coming out of cinemas about week 8 maybe with 100 million but its getting reamed right now. If there is a Scream 5, perhaps this will teach Bob Weinstein to stay mostly out of the way of Craven and Williamson (except if Williamson wanted to kill Sidney, he can stop that happening).[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

==Scream 4: Kirby==
Kirby wasn't shot in the heart, that was Jill. Kirby was stabbed by Charlie twice in the stomach, after she goes to untie him from the chair. She falls to the ground, but is still alive. I put in the "ambiguous" bit because it was left they way to see the audience reactions to the character. [[User:Pic Editor960|Pic Editor960]] ([[User talk:Pic Editor960|talk]]) 01:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
*I'll get a source. [[User:Pic Editor960|Pic Editor960]] ([[User talk:Pic Editor960|talk]]) 01:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:Leaving her for dead is the best way to go IMO. If Kevin wanted us know if she survived or not, he would have. We'll know if a Scream 5 cast is announced, if ever. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 02:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
how alphabetical order really works

==???==
Comment unnecessary. I got ONE entry out of place. I don't know how you meant it but it came off as passive aggressive. It wasn't appreciated.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:As far as I knew, it was something that had been that way forever. Relax. Filling in those edit summary boxes gets tiresome. We're supposed to put comments. [[User:Teethmonkey|Teethmonkey]] ([[User talk:Teethmonkey|talk]]) 11:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, now that you bring it up, I see from your edit history that you should read Wikipedia's guidelines on comments. They want people to explain edits or check the minor edit box. I know I need to explain more often. You need to start explaining much more often. You usually don't. [[User:Teethmonkey|Teethmonkey]] ([[User talk:Teethmonkey|talk]]) 11:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Variety ==

If you have Firefox, you can download Greasemonkey and then the user script "[http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/64410 Variety overlay removal]". —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 21:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
::Chrome is Mozilla based too isn't it? Would it work in there? I've only had to go to Variety twice, that thing is silly, you get to view TWO articles ONLY if you log in. I just went to View Source and got my quote that way but when I archived it I found it it clears that overlay off. Too late but good for source purposes at least[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
:::No Chrome isn't. But they may have Greasemonkey for it though. Another way is to simply delete your cookies and go back to the site. They don't go by IP address, just by cookies. LOL. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 22:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
::::I got it, apparently it has some issues though, won't work on every page, just some. No big deal, thanks for the tip. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 22:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

== Box office summary table ==

Check out [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Box_office_summary_table|this discussion]] that may interest you. For the record, I don't mind the box office summary tables to be included in developed articles. But wanted to get consensus before the articles go through GA. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 00:33, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
::Commented [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 00:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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==WP:FILM April 2011 Newsletter==
The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Outreach/April 2011 Newsletter|April 2011 issue]]''' of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! [[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nehrams2020|contrib]]) 22:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
==Talkback==
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== Re: Favor ==

I looked at the article and think the structure looks much better. Thanks, By the way, Halloween used to be a FA, but is not featured now. [[The Bride of Frankenstein]] is a FA. Sorry for the mixup, [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub><font color="green">&gt;&lt;&gt;</font></sub><small>&deg;</small><sup><small>&deg;</small></sup>]]''' 23:22, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

== Protection ==

I've started a discussion about protecting articles for new film releases [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Semi_protection_for_new_releases|here]]. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 01:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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== Ghostface (Scream) edits ==

Greetings! I see you've reverted a number of edits at [[Ghostface (Scream)]]. If I'm reading the situation right, you're treating the removal of text that Sidney survives as vandalism. I don't see this as clear-cut vandalism; I'd recommend explaining why the information should stay, at least in an edit summary and possibly on the talk page. I've advised the IP editor that he's in danger of violating [[WP:3RR|3RR]] and should discuss his desired change at the talk page. You should probably switch to the talk page as well—since this isn't clear-cut vandalism, your reverts also put you in jeopardy of violating 3RR. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 19:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

:(In response to your comment at my talk page:) Thanks for the heads-up about what's going on with the article. I've run into similar situations with other articles, so I do just rollback the new variants on the same old unsourced information. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 01:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

==Great catch==
I can't believe I left "unnamed device" in Wikilink brackets. How embarrassing! Thanks for catching it right away ... and as long as I'm here, may I just say what terrific, surgically careful edits you made to [[Thor (film)]]. A pleasure to see. With regards, --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 21:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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== Scream ==

Unstable refers to drastic changes to the page. There have not been drastic changes, just lots of small ones. That's going to happen regardless, even during the GAC process if some of the issues are not corrected. Ignoring stylistic changes, there is still a lot of issue with the prose. Plus, there isn't a rush on the GAC process. If the only issue with the page is "unstable" then that's easily arguable. Trust me, if a reviewer says they won't pass it because of that then I'll be right beside you fighting that rediculous conclusion since there are not major changes happening to the article. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 20:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

:They should be collapsable because it's the same principal behind restricting image sizes. We have to take into consideration people that read Wiki and are not registers users (so they get the default size) and people with low resolution screens. If I restrict an image size (which I don't believe is done on the article anyway) or leave a long list uncollapsed then someone with a low resolution screen setting will be forced with an extremely large image that can either take up the whole screen or push text out of place. It may look fine on your screen, but different resolutions bring different results. With regard to the image, that's a policy issue and no GA, FA, or any article should be include album covers unless there is critical commentary on that album cover. This isn't the same as if the album had its own page and it's used in identifying the subject of the article. Here, it's part of the film page and not only is it the same image as the poster, but there is no commentary on the album cover image itself that would require illustration for a reader to help understand what is being described. That isn't a stylistic change, that's a policy and any article I come across I typically remove it on site because it's a policy violation.

:As for the critical reception change, having a box that identifies Rotten Tomatoes or MetaCritic only is placing [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]] on their analysis of the critical reception. It doesn't matter if they are the only ones or one of a 1000 different aggregate sites, we should not place such value on a single entity's analysis. We already lead most reception sections with their data anyway. It's not like with box office data where you are reporting objective facts. This is a subjective analysis. When you start pushing those things in the forefront of a reader you start approaching violations of NPOV because it seems like the article is pushing a particular opinion. I don't mean to be a stickler about these things, I'm just trying to help you create the best article possible. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 21:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
::I had also removed the soundtrack poster from [[Scream 4]] as it is the same image as the poster. I always remove soundtrack images from the soundtrack infobox, and have gotten in some arguments ([[Saw 3D]]). One, there is not enough of 'critical commentary' in a soundtrack section of an article. Two, if it's just the same image as the poster in smaller size, why add it? If the soundtrack has its own article, then maybe the image would work there. Most editors don't follow the imaging rules, so it is hard to tell what is right or wrong without verifying it for yourself... and that can be a chore. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 21:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:::But most Soundtrack albums are not the same as the poster. They might share similar imagery but they are different. I mean in most Soundtrack/Album articles, there rarely is commentary on the image, there is no commentary ever on film posters. Seems arbitrary to give a pass on one image but not another when that image would be fine were I to break it off into a separate article. Especially in films where they have multiple posters and so just because the one selected for the article shares similarities to the album cover, it immediately disqualifies it. Scream 4;s first poster for instance was the "4" one, it's ugly, it's bad, I would never want it used in the Scream 4 article on a purely aesthetic level, but if it was used, then the album art would immediately become acceptable. Same can be said for all the ''Scream'' films and most other films.
:::Though honestly, if this is the guideline, there is a tonne of GA that need reassessing. Though admittedly, it seems every film that was made into a GA was last reviewed in 2008. Pretty much every random GA film article I looked at was assessed three years ago. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 21:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

== Just in case.. ==
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::OMG, proper cheeky. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

== Wikipedia:Peer review/Scream (film)/archive1 ==

Sorry that I said [[Halloween (1978 film)]] was a FA in [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Scream (film)/archive1]] - it used to be one and I just recalled that it had been on the Main page. I also just saw the comment as the bot closed the PR a shirt time ago. [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub><font color="green">&gt;&lt;&gt;</font></sub><small>&deg;</small><sup><small>&deg;</small></sup>]]''' 12:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
:I double check all the PRs closed by the bot and saw your comment at the bottom - missed that I had already replied. Oh well ;-) [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub><font color="green">&gt;&lt;&gt;</font></sub><small>&deg;</small><sup><small>&deg;</small></sup>]]''' 12:48, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
== [[WP:NFCC|Non-free]] files in your user space ==
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== Hangover II ==

You put a load of details about the most minor and least notable member of the cast in the cast list. And you messed up the refs. Have some perspective. You really think Mason Lee is more important than everyone else in the film? Create an article for him if you want to write about him, don't shoehorn it into a cast list . [[User:Barsoomian|Barsoomian]] ([[User talk:Barsoomian|talk]]) 11:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, you didn't mess up my ref; though no idea why the name matters to you. But you did screw up this one: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hangover:_Part_II&direction=next&oldid=430237923] Not nice to leave broken code for others to puzzle over. The simplest fix would have been to delete it, but I fixed it for you. [[User:Barsoomian|Barsoomian]] ([[User talk:Barsoomian|talk]]) 06:41, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for not being condescending when coming to an editor's talk page to discuss their edits. What do you mean "it's not nice" to leave broken code on the page, you think he did it on purpose? If you looked at the ref, it was just missing a '''|''' after cite web, not that puzzling. Nevertheless, thanks for fixing it, you should get a [[WP:Barnstar|barnstar]]. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 07:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:: I'm sure Darkwarriorblake can handle a conversation with me without your kibbitzing. And thanks for demonstrating how to make a condescending remark; I see you are much better at it. Are you stalking me now for disagreeing with you elsewhere? [[User:Barsoomian|Barsoomian]] ([[User talk:Barsoomian|talk]]) 02:27, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Blake's page has been on my watchlist long before you came into the picture. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 02:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Nevertheless, this is nothing to do with you unless you're trying to settle a score. [[User:Barsoomian|Barsoomian]] ([[User talk:Barsoomian|talk]]) 06:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

::The name wasn't an issue, just don't like all-caps, it just looks like you're shouting. Also if I'd known the reference was broken I'd have fixed it, I didn't know but thank you for fixing it.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 13:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
::: I use CAPS for ref names exactly because it help them to stand out in the code, it doesn't affect how the actual page displays. So when I couldn't see that I (incorrectly) assumed it had been reverted/deleted. Otherwise the actual broken ref was apparent in the red text that appeared in the references section at the bottom of the page. It's always worth checking the final page to see if it all works. I couldn't make the URL you originally used work but I found a direct link to what I assume was the target page. [[User:Barsoomian|Barsoomian]] ([[User talk:Barsoomian|talk]]) 02:27, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

===Tattoo lawsuit===
I'll be happy to discuss the particulars of the wording of that last sentence if you like.--[[User:TriiipleThreat|TriiipleThreat]] ([[User talk:TriiipleThreat|talk]]) 17:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

:No problem, I thought the same thing at first.--[[User:TriiipleThreat|TriiipleThreat]] ([[User talk:TriiipleThreat|talk]]) 18:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

== infobox discussion ==

I moved your comments and my responses. Strictly speaking, that's a no-no, but I thought it might be more clear this way. If you disagree, I apologize for getting it wrong. Maybe you could make your point again with a new post that's more specific. Or, if you're just trying to get Gothicfilm's attention, send him a message. Thanks for your thoughts. --[[User:Ring Cinema|Ring Cinema]] ([[User talk:Ring Cinema|talk]]) 15:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Piranha 3D: The Sequel ==
Putting our differences aside, i'd like to ask you for assistance in the development of the ''[[Piranha 3D: The Sequel]]'' page i just recently created. Let me know. ''[[User: Rusted AutoParts|<font face="Rockwell" size="3" style="color:#000000;color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></font>]]'' ([[User talk:Rusted AutoParts|talk]]) 10:27 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Hello ==

I don't think we've collaborated before, but I wanted to say hello. Always a pleasure to see an editor newly working with film articles! As you've probably noticed, the WikiProject Film community is pretty active. If you have any questions about such articles, feel free to drop me a line. Keep up the good work! [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 15:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&diff=prev&oldid=431381369 FYI]. I'd move it if I was an admin, but I'm not, so... :) If it's the template in the article that's bothering you, we can remove it now. The discussion got the attention it needed. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 20:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

::It can't be moved; I've tried. I think it has to do with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hangover_Part_II&action=history The Hangover Part II] being edited after a move takes place. It prevents the move from being undone. An admin has to delete that page to be able to move the colon version to the non-colon version. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 20:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, your tone was fine. It just helps to have a one-on-one discussion going to see if something can't be worked out, then other editors can join in with feedback. The tone thing was more for Rusty than you, but sometimes we have to remember how to word complaints. After all, the dispute isn't with a vandal, but a fellow editor. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 14:21, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

:Try not to let Ring Cinema get under your skin. You're not the first. While I recommended trying to work issues out one-on-one, you should at some point agree to disagree and fetch additional feedback to determine a wider consensus. Otherwise, the discussion can go for a long, long time. (See [[Talk:Titanic (1997 film)]], for example.) [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 16:54, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

::I can totally relate. I have to try to remember not to invest so much energy in these kinds of discussions. When I'm thinking, "No, it's clearly supposed to be this way," the other party is thinking the exact same thing. At the end of the day, we have to remember that it's just a website and that it's not the end of the world when there are too many or too few names listed in some film article. Personally, I like working on articles about upcoming films because they do not attract that much attention. I wrote [[Life of Pi (film)]] yesterday, for example. Another one is [[47 Ronin (film)]], which has a relatively short page history so far. Recently released films (and related counterparts, like the ''Hangover'' films) will attract not just readers but editors who have divergent viewpoints. As for plot summaries, honestly, don't worry about them unless you're trying for Good Article or Featured Article status on a film article with less attention. The summaries will never stop changing. They'll get bloated and be trimmed cyclically, since there are just too many ways to describe the plot and because it is the easiest thing for a passerby editor to do. It's more work to do the research and find good secondary sources and contribute content that would normally not be seen. That's the payoff for me, anyway, especially with upcoming films—I like digging into the development history and sharing information that's not necessarily covered in a newspaper article about a just-released film. Anyway, take the occasional break when you can and take a page off your watchlist if it's too stressful. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 17:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

:::The [[WP:NFF|notability guidelines for future films]] says to create a stand-alone article only if filming is verified to have begun. Before the start of filming, anything can happen, such as a writers' strike or the loss of a director. With the start of filming, it is a kind of investment of resources, and it's much less likely for something to happen to the film at that point. If you want to work on the article, you could start a user sub-page: [[User:Darkwarriorblake/Burt Wonderstone]]. If the project finally takes off and filming begins, you can move it to the mainspace. If you Google '''site:variety.com "burt wonderstone"''', you can find some sources. Sometimes a planned film may be based on source material, and you could create a "Film adaptation" section there. For example, I wrote [[Shantaram (film)]], which never took off, but at least its development history is shared with readers. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 17:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== Yay! Mail ==

{{YGM}}''<font face="times new roman">[[User:MauchoEagle|<span style="background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">maucho</span>]][[User talk:MauchoEagle|<span style="background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">eagle</span>]]</font>'' <sub><font color="blue">([[Special:Contributions/MauchoEagle|c]])</font></sub> 23:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
::I've replied, thanks Maucho. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 20:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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== Twinkle ==

{{tb|Wikipedia:Help_desk|Twinkle_no_longer_working}} <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 01:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

:{{xt|I didn't want to have to go through the trouble of signing up to github}} - yep, same here; I just mentioned it there for completeness. I had a different problem with the new version, and I put it on [[WT:TW]]. I've also poked the main author, [[User_talk:AzaToth#TW_CSD_log]].

:I think, really, we'll have to bear with things a bit. In general though - when it works - the new version is a big improvement. E.g. see [[Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences]].

:I know that's not much comfort if it isn't working for you, but, there's always 'teething troubles', I guess. Cheers! <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 01:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::I can't see the preferences, says I dont have Twinkle installed. I'm curious if Chrome has updated itself (it seems to do this a lot and break stuff) and that is why it isn't working. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 01:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Mmm, I'm really not sure; I'd suggest just keeping an eye on [[WT:TW]], and maybe trying tomorrow, or something. A bit of an inconvenience, but still. I don't know the technical ins-and-outs of Twinkle, but I do know a lot of people are having troubles - so it's likely to be fixed in the near future. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 02:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::::It's back on today, dunno what the issue was but thanks for the help :) [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 13:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

==WP:FILM May 2011 Newsletter==
The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Outreach/May 2011 Newsletter|May 2011 issue]]''' of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! [[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nehrams2020|contrib]]) 01:42, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

==Excessive detail==
If you think i add excessive amounts of detail, you should see the ''[[Field of Dreams]]'' plot! ''[[User: Rusted AutoParts|<font face="Rockwell" size="3" style="color:#000000;color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></font>]]'' ([[User talk:Rusted AutoParts|talk]]) 13:07 8 June 2011 (UTC)

==Article better==
;Your Questions? Your Answers? Your Talk?
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_On_Stranger_Tides&action=history] [[Special:Contributions/62.200.73.57|62.200.73.57]] ([[User talk:62.200.73.57|talk]]) 09:23, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

==Scream Mystery==
Hello! Although it is a "who is the killer" type film, many horror films have an unknown figure killing. Feel free to include it, but I'm not so comfortable categorizing a "mystery" film that isn't identifiable with the genre. I mean, when people discuss "scream" they don't say "great mystery film!" they'd say "great horror film!" or maybe horror comedy or something. It's up to you though. Get back to me. :) [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 23:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

== Editing Eddie Brock ==

I'm currently re-writing the fiction character history section to more accurately and chronologically describe important events in the subjects character development. Please allow me some time to do self edits, if there's anything you want or need me to change please talk about it before undoing my work. Thank you, Jesse[[Special:Contributions/76.110.22.186|76.110.22.186]] ([[User talk:76.110.22.186|talk]]) 21:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

If the titles cannot be changed then the content has to be re-written to more accurately reflect the title. So either that or new sections should be added.[[Special:Contributions/76.110.22.186|76.110.22.186]] ([[User talk:76.110.22.186|talk]]) 21:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with the titles. Publication history talks about the creation of the character and his publication history. Fictional character biography talks about his actions in the comics. There are guidelines for these here Wikipedia:Manual of Style (comics) Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man as an example of a good way to do a comic article. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, The title of "fictional character biography" has no clarification or distinct to only published material and therefore may very well include any fiction from video game or movie universe as well; therefore a more accurate title is needed such as Published Character history" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.110.22.186|76.110.22.186]] ([[User talk:76.110.22.186|talk]]) 22:09, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

You have completely missed the point of what I just said. You clearly did not understand my previous statement. I was trying to tell you that the title of the article does not clarify or distinguish only published material. The word "Comic" does not appear in the title, therefore the word fiction could apply to video game or movie. Thats why the title at least needs to say "Comic" but i digress, it useless and pointless to have a plot summary for a copyrighted character, because such a brief plot summary itself fails to explain character motivation. Instead of this section, it should just be a chronological list of Eddie's stories such as ASM # 300, 315-17 etc.. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.110.22.186|76.110.22.186]] ([[User talk:76.110.22.186|talk]]) 23:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Green Lantern==
And I do respect your 2 cents, having seen that you're a very good and careful editor. Based on my opinion of your judgment, if you want to reinsert, I'll grudgingly go along &mdash; though it feels to me like [[WP:NOR|original-research analysis]] to compare it the other movies, whereas simply giving the numbers seems more like just concrete facts. I'm also not sure what the factual value of such comparisons are in an encyclopedia, as opposed to in the trade press where they presumably may help executives make decisions. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:39, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

:What the [[Green Lantern (film)]] box-office section said was:
{{bquote|...earning $3.4 million in 1,180 midnight runs, on par with 20th Century Fox's X-Men: First Class, and slightly better than the $3.3 million grossed by Paramount Studios and Marvel Studios' Thor.[74] The film went on to gross $21.6 million on Friday, but fell 22% on Saturday for a weekend total of $52.7 million debut, earning it the No. 1 spot. It ultimately opened behind Thor ($65 million) and X-Men First Class ($55.1 million).[75]}}

:So, yes, this version compares it to two other superhero movies, but my feeling is, unless you're a film-industry professional, so what? And if superhero-movie comparisons are important, why not include other recent superhero movies from the past few months or within the last year, say, when ticket-price inflation isn't a factor? Or why not compare Green Lantern to Super 8 or other recent science-fiction films? Or why not compare it to other recent big studio films, like The Hangover Part II? Before adding comparisons, I wonder if we could start a discussion on the Green Lantern page about this, since comparisons seems arbitrary, as opposed to just giving the plain numbers, as WikiProject Films does for virtually all other movies. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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