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:::actually, not as a horrible shock, but as a useful opportunity to reflect on the state of the wiki and my role in it. I will consider this for a few more days to avoid rashness, but I am thinking of having myself de-adminned, as the flak I am getting just for being an admin stands in no proportion to the usefulness of the occasional page-move or vandal-slapping. I will also consider moving on to being more active on sister projects such as wiktionary and de-wiki instead of giving more of my time to difficult areas on en-wiki. This "God of Israel" thing is really an excellent test case, as it shows the capability of the admin community to deal with clashes of educated editors with the absolutely clueless editing out of pure ideology or religious sentiment. [[WP:Experts are scum]] has always been a problem here, but it is up to the admins to tip the balance in favour of those with a clue. If the admin community cannot perform this, these religious topics will turn out as useless trash. |
:::actually, not as a horrible shock, but as a useful opportunity to reflect on the state of the wiki and my role in it. I will consider this for a few more days to avoid rashness, but I am thinking of having myself de-adminned, as the flak I am getting just for being an admin stands in no proportion to the usefulness of the occasional page-move or vandal-slapping. I will also consider moving on to being more active on sister projects such as wiktionary and de-wiki instead of giving more of my time to difficult areas on en-wiki. This "God of Israel" thing is really an excellent test case, as it shows the capability of the admin community to deal with clashes of educated editors with the absolutely clueless editing out of pure ideology or religious sentiment. [[WP:Experts are scum]] has always been a problem here, but it is up to the admins to tip the balance in favour of those with a clue. If the admin community cannot perform this, these religious topics will turn out as useless trash. |
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:::This does not mean I simply class anyone who disagrees with me as an uneducated hack. I am perfectly able to distinguish informed disagreement from simple failure to grasp the issue. I have frequently accused Deacon of Pndapetzim of bias, yet I would never group him with the likes of Jheald, as he is clearly willing and able to read and discuss encyclopedic references. But the reality we are facing is that the religion topics are swarming with uneducated hacks. Not just the religionists, also the teenage atheists, both equally ideological and clueless. I used to be willing to spend time directing such deadlocks towards an encyclopedic outcome, and I have years of experience of how to do this, but right now I am seriously considering why I should think this is worth my time. --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 12:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
:::This does not mean I simply class anyone who disagrees with me as an uneducated hack. I am perfectly able to distinguish informed disagreement from simple failure to grasp the issue. I have frequently accused Deacon of Pndapetzim of bias, yet I would never group him with the likes of Jheald, as he is clearly willing and able to read and discuss encyclopedic references. But the reality we are facing is that the religion topics are swarming with uneducated hacks. Not just the religionists, also the teenage atheists, both equally ideological and clueless. I used to be willing to spend time directing such deadlocks towards an encyclopedic outcome, and I have years of experience of how to do this, but right now I am seriously considering why I should think this is worth my time. --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 12:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
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There is a user currently rearranging ANI posts who seems desperately to be blocked. could you look at my block proposal please? [[User:Someone65|Someone65]] ([[User talk:Someone65|talk]]) 13:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
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 | Dbachmann is taking a long wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia some time later. |
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- I imagine this block probably came as a bit of a horrible shock. I've unblocked both of you, per my comments at AN/I. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- actually, not as a horrible shock, but as a useful opportunity to reflect on the state of the wiki and my role in it. I will consider this for a few more days to avoid rashness, but I am thinking of having myself de-adminned, as the flak I am getting just for being an admin stands in no proportion to the usefulness of the occasional page-move or vandal-slapping. I will also consider moving on to being more active on sister projects such as wiktionary and de-wiki instead of giving more of my time to difficult areas on en-wiki. This "God of Israel" thing is really an excellent test case, as it shows the capability of the admin community to deal with clashes of educated editors with the absolutely clueless editing out of pure ideology or religious sentiment. WP:Experts are scum has always been a problem here, but it is up to the admins to tip the balance in favour of those with a clue. If the admin community cannot perform this, these religious topics will turn out as useless trash.
- This does not mean I simply class anyone who disagrees with me as an uneducated hack. I am perfectly able to distinguish informed disagreement from simple failure to grasp the issue. I have frequently accused Deacon of Pndapetzim of bias, yet I would never group him with the likes of Jheald, as he is clearly willing and able to read and discuss encyclopedic references. But the reality we are facing is that the religion topics are swarming with uneducated hacks. Not just the religionists, also the teenage atheists, both equally ideological and clueless. I used to be willing to spend time directing such deadlocks towards an encyclopedic outcome, and I have years of experience of how to do this, but right now I am seriously considering why I should think this is worth my time. --dab (𒁳) 12:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I imagine this block probably came as a bit of a horrible shock. I've unblocked both of you, per my comments at AN/I. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
User in need of block
There is a user currently rearranging ANI posts who seems desperately to be blocked. could you look at my block proposal please? Someone65 (talk) 13:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)