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== Removing the POV tag ==
== Removing the POV tag ==
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It is not unexpected to see your removal of the POV tag has created a circus. While I suspect your intents were genuine, I would still like to offer you a friendly reminder on being careful about the actions you take as a mediator on sensitive disputes like SI. After all, you joined the mediation committee (technically) out of a desire for resolving disputes (rather than creating them). --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 03:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:Hello, and welcome back to the discussion, Bob! How was your wikibreak? I have no doubt that your polite and well-intentioned participation will both contribute to and maintain the present high standards of this discourse. Regards, <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 03:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::My best friend Feezo, I am just taking a peek and maybe staying to make a few comments. How are things going as a mediator? Have you mastered your blood pressure? --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 03:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Dear bob, I'm not sure what you're talking about -- can you pleae explain yourself better. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 03:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh, it's just a reference to the good old times we had together in the mediation. Remember when when we were arguing about naming conventions and I said ''oh well'' and you were like ''you can check your sarcasm at the door''. Then I was all ''you almost suffered an aneurysm!''. Those were great and fondly remembered times. :) --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 03:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Haha, well, Magog's taken over this one, so feel free to see him for updates :) <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 03:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Haha, well, Magog's taken over this one, so feel free to see him for updates :) <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 03:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, and I've taken it over with an unholy vengeance. On another note, should I spontaneously disappear (e.g., should I find a full-time job, should I have a conscience attack about too much time on WP, etc.), feel free to take it right back over. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) 03:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, and I've taken it over with an unholy vengeance. On another note, should I spontaneously disappear (e.g., should I find a full-time job, should I have a conscience attack about too much time on WP, etc.), feel free to take it right back over. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) 03:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Hi Magog&mdash;I probably won't be resuming mediation (formal or informal) but you definitely have my support in taking charge of this debate. We certainly need administrators who have the time and inclination to deal with the likes of Tenmei and Lvhis, and, of course, our friend Bob here. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 04:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::::My best friend Feezo, you are again acting carelessly. The descriptor "likes of" can sound relatively inflammatory. While its application on Tenmei, since we all agree that he is the primary source of disruptive behaviour, putting Lvhis alongside with him is rather inappropriate. And of course, since we are good friends, adding me to the list can produce hard feelings. Just a friendly reminder. --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 04:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, I do strongly recommend not to spend too much time in WP. While it may seem 1337 for a person to show off his 50k+ edits in contribution history, there are other things in life that can benefit more from such dedication. If you don't mind me asking, what's your training and what kind of job are you looking for? --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 04:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::::If you're talking to Magog, you should do so on his talk page. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 04:54, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::It is rather cozy here and your invitation for tea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nice_Cup_of_Tea.jpg) is too welcoming to pass up on. So, it appears you are a Perl expert. Are you a professional software developer? --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 05:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::By the way, no matter who you're talking to, you should be a lot more guarded in asking such questions. As you have been determined to have used baiting tactics against other editors in the past, (see your wikiquette alert at [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts/archive99#User:Bobthefish2]]) implying that your fellow editors are "l337" and unemployed is a stupid thing to do. Although you are no doubt doing it for extremely noble, selfless, and pure reasons, it would be poor sport to allow others to misinterpret you so badly. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <font size="-2">[[User_talk:Feezo|(send a signal]] | [[Special:Contributions/Feezo|watch the sky]])</font></span> 05:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::I am sorry Feezo, I do not see the connection. If you are referring to the 50k+ edits, it is simply a reference to the tremendous contributions of a philosophical Japanese editor whom we both know. The questions following the 50k+ edit reference were simply casual responses to what Magog the Ogre said. Since Magog and I never had any disputes, I doubt he'd see anything sinister in what I wrote to him. In the event that you consider it offensive of me asking whether or not you are a professional software developer because you aren't a professional software developer, I sincerely apologize. It was an innocent question even though I knew Perl programming is not a skill that is high in demand within the software industry. Can I have some more tea? --[[User:Bobthefish2|Bobthefish2]] ([[User talk:Bobthefish2|talk]]) 05:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 27 June 2011

Re: Senkaku Islands

I put the tag back because it's been a few days since you said the closure of mediation is pending; feel free to remove it when the mediation case closes. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 02:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Senkaku Islands/Code#Update

It might be a little too late for my input here, so I'm wondering if I should take the time to answer your questions. Thanks. – AJLtalk 07:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't expect to have any further involvement with the case, although you're welcome to send in your answers if you wish. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 08:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, would you rather I send them to the Committee? – AJLtalk 08:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, you could do that—I came up with the questions on my own, but as the committee as a whole is currently deciding what to do, any perspective provided by participants should be welcome. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 12:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 4 July 2011


ind_knight 16 july 20011

hi freezo

The semi-protection on the article (Digvijay_Singh_(politician)) is not justifiable because lot of contradictory information on large number of web references is available related to this article.1 where person himself states that that he was better hindu means he has converted now which contradicts the present content in the article. but semi-protection has been applied this on unrefined article and friezing to that stage where it seems that it will be not good for wikipedia to be source of nuetral information. kindly remove it grant permission to edit the page.

--Ind knight (talk) 06:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can contact the admin who protected the article at User talk:RegentsPark. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 06:16, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In your opinion would this page meet Wikipedia guidelines? I don't want to sound advertisE or SpammE

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Akiban (Ah-kee-buhn) Technologies was founded in 2009 with the mission of delivering a database solution to allow high performance and scalability. The product, which is not yet in the market, allows companies to maintain existing relational databases, but restructures the storage of the data for scale. The company touts this approach as breaking “through the SQL scalability barrier”. The initial unreleased product appears to support MySQL, and we infer plans to support other relational databases in the future.[1] Akiban has a MIT cadre of DBMS developers like Jack Orenstein, who was an Object Design founder, Ori Herrnstadt from the Israeli Defense Forces, Mike McMahon who was a founder of Oberon and Blue Agarve Software and Peter Beaman who used to work for Intersystems.[2] Akiban Server

Operational databases with normalized schemas suffer from performance and scalability problems as schemas become complex. Scalability is the ability of a system, network, or process, to handle growing amounts of work in a graceful manner or its ability to be enlarged to accommodate that growth.[3] These problems are not inherent in the amount of data however, but rather in the SQL joins required to construct objects from that data. Typical workarounds for these challenges include de-normalization, materialized views, and alternative database solutions. Rather than compromising the integrity and benefits of a relational model through denormalization, the database technology will make SQL run better. References

^ Luca, Andrei. "Akiban « High Tech in the Hub." High Tech in the Hub. 25 Sept. 2010. Web. 05 July 2011. <http://www.hightechinthehub.com/tag/akiban/>. ^ "Akiban | DBMS 2 : Database Management System Services." DBMS 2 : Database Management and Analytic Technologies in a Changing World. Monash Research, 19 Apr. 2011. Web. 05 July 2011. <http://www.dbms2.com/category/products-and-vendors/akiban/>. ^ André B. Bondi, 'Characteristics of scalability and their impact on performance', Proceedings of the 2nd international workshop on Software and performance, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, 2000, ISBN 1-58113-195-X, pages 195 - 203 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NO.Denormalization (talk • contribs) 19:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This editor is a self-declared sockpuppet of AkibanTech and has been indefinitely blocked. -- Atama頭 18:46, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 11 July 2011

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File mover

Hi, There is more discussion in here, and also in the main page. Regards, In fact ( contact ) 12:15, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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SI Mediation

Feezo, will you be providing any sort of closing statement--a summary, an indication of what the committee was discussing, a recommendation as to whether you (individually or collectively) believe further DR (i.e., arbitration) should be requested, etc.? Both of the closes indicate that we should check the talk page for more info, but there isn't any there, at least not that I'm seeing. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AGK has indicated on the case talk page that he will post a full statement once consensus is reached. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 01:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm not looking at the right place, the only recent message from AGK is this one from 16 July, which says that the committee has finished discussion, and you (Feezo) would be taking action; it doesn't say anything about the committee or AGK making a comment. The 24 June comment says that, but I assumed that was superseded by the 16 July statement. I can ask AGK on xyr talk if you like. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked him on the list if he plans on making a statement. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 07:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Feezo. Would you mind removing the dispute tag from the SI page? You added it at the end of May "as part of formal mediation". Now that the mediation is over, I would appreciate it if you could take it off. Cheers, John Smith's (talk) 07:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message; I've taken care of it. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 07:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Feezo, the dispute has not been solved although the mediation is over, and the current title has failed to be proved a NPOV one during mediation. I have not seen more conclusion as well as justifications except the closure itself for this mediation. Some confusions, sorry. --Lvhis (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your concern. The Senkaku Islands case is now closed. As I am no longer your mediator, I have no special authority over the article in question. Please follow the standard procedure for controversial changes. Thanks. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 02:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 July 2011

Senkaku Islands dispute protection

I've taken quite a bit of liberty in unprotecting this page, and actually returning it to its predispute version. At first, this may look like an administrator pushing his will on an article, but I assure you it's nothing of the sort. I have been watching this dispute for too long and I'm trying to keep things sane. I'm posting here because technically I probably shouldn't have undone your protection without your permission. Please read my post on the talk page however which explains all of my actions. If you still have an issue, feel free to resopnd and I will happily work it out to return it to whatever state you'd set up. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thanks for the message—I don't have an issue with your taking on this challenge, and even unprotecting the page (although you should probably address the parallel dispute at Senkaku Islands). Protecting the dispute page was meant as a gentle reminder that edit warring is Not Allowed—and that administrators are standing by if the situation escalates. I agree it does "look" bad to WP:PREFER a particular version, which was why I froze the page in exactly the state I found it. I'm not sure it's wise to get dragged into whether or not the article "should" be tagged. It's an internal filing issue that should never have been allowed to become an object of this much contention (per Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles).
However, it's clear that the situation is not going to go away, and if you're willing to take this to Arbcom, I think it would be better to do quickly, rather than letting the situation continue to simmer. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 02:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add my few cents here. Regarding Senkaku Islands, ArbCom might not be able to do much (since they don't ever take content disputes, which I personally feel ArbCom may classify this under). As there hasn't been disruptive editing due to the full-protection status, there may be nothing actionable (except at me for restoring the tag). As for Senkaku Islands dispute, I can't say much without looking at detailed history. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 02:39, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've been dealing with the later article for months, although the dispute has gone on for years. IMHO there has definitely been some disruptive editing, including individuals willing to edit war, WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT, and most deliciously a healthy case of WP:MPOV. Just to clarify, I'm not pushing whether or not there should be an NPOV-title tag or not; I was just returning the article to its most recent state.
As for ArbCom, wasn't their initial job to take on content disputes? Seriously, what the heck? Too bad they just had their elections; had I known this, I would have gone on a campaign to get a new batch of Arbs in that would be willing to take on the matters which they should be taking on. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They normally don't have remedies that direct which way they want the content to go. For disputes, they act on whether people have violated AGF, been editing disruptively, and what not. So they will rule on the actions of people that have been violating en-wp rules, but I'm uncertain as to whether they will actually say "which article name should be used". Basically, if both sides are agreeing to disagree on certain subjects, without violating rules, ArbCom normally will not take the case and prefer to defer to the community for input. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 19:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the POV tag

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Haha, well, Magog's taken over this one, so feel free to see him for updates :) Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 03:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and I've taken it over with an unholy vengeance. On another note, should I spontaneously disappear (e.g., should I find a full-time job, should I have a conscience attack about too much time on WP, etc.), feel free to take it right back over. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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