User talk:Jasper Deng

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RFA status

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Discussion

Windows Vista

 Done — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 01:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

neutral point of view?

Funny you say that... All I am doing is raising a possibility... I have asked to debate over and over again with these people, because I have clear evidence that proves what I have been editing into the articles and they wont debate me....Being neutral has nothing to do with it... I'm tired of that myth about snake potency being stated as fact and I want to change it as I have evidence that it is a myth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakefan55 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

You are trying to edit in your own point of view into that article. It will have to stay out if you cannot convince our editors of that. Do not edit war, as Materialscientist (an editor with the power to block you if you violate our policies) told you.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

My point of view... lol and whose point of view is in the article.. It s surely no fact that venom toxicity to mice means anything for any other animals... So why is that in the article... That is clearly a point of view aswell as their is no proof that the ld50 means anything for anything but a mouse( and even for mice it has limitations and doesn't mean that much which I will point out if someone would debate me) So why is that in the article when its clearly a point of view aswell.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakefan55 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

It's your point of view. Other editors are not buying it. Please keep civil or you will be blocked from editing. I hope you realize what consensus is. Also, do not reply in new sections.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946

Hello Jasper Deng, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 02:33, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I feel it is not notable.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion is not the right place to go when you feel that an article is not notable. A7 is only for articles that do not make any claims of significance or importance. On the other hand, AfD is good for articles that do not establish notability. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 01:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Let's make one then.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Your concern is noted but I'm a bit confused! Sitush (talk) 11:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Impersonation

Person X can set up a Wikipedia account to impersonate Person Y whether or not Person Y is a celebrity.

The edits made by that account verged on the disingenuous, and so the account got blocked for consistent bad behavior. The subjects edited by that article were licit but relatively unsavory. These, combined with the nature of the userpage, made me suspicious that perhaps someone was attempting to smear a second person by associating the second person's name with inappropriate behavior on Wikipedia.

Some Googling for the name in question revealed that someone has been very determinedly associating that name with.... strongly inappropriate terms, going on to specify the city and state of residence, as well as the place of employment.

I thus concluded that the whole thing was an attempted smear campaign on Person Y, and changed the block log to be accurate. As a corollary, if future employers search for this person's name, they will not find that Person Y was blocked from Wikipedia for misbehavior, but rather that someone else was blocked from Wikipedia for impersonating Person Y.

I have posted these comments on your page rather than mine specifically to decentralize the discussion; I'd prefer to minimize the extent to which Person Y's name is used here. DS (talk) 02:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

The Birthdate that i change is correct, look this website: http://search.people.com/TIISearch/people/search/search.html?search=Mariah+carey&bu=&searchSubmit.x=0&searchSubmit.y=0 Krissakristine (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Jasper. First, thanks for your work at WQA. Everything you've contributed to that page has been nothing but helpful. However, regarding User:Banana Fingers, who you very politely notified: I think they should have received (level three) warnings. They have 2000 edits, and I think they should know better by now. I replaced your warning with a higher one- something that I should have talked to you about first, so I apologize. However, I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from. Finally:

		The Userpage Shield
		For catching some very subtle vandalism at User:Howard the Duck, which Howard himself admittedly wouldn't even have noticed. Awesome job. Swarm X 18:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

(sig for whole message: Swarm ^X 18:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC))

Thanks!Jasper Deng (talk) 18:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to associate myself with this shield. Thank you, Jasper. Alistair Stevenson (talk) 19:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Jasper Deng. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Do you mind if I delete the sock investigation Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mouse from Mars? The explanation is mostly in the email. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Elockid ^(Talk) 01:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Give me a link to the arbitration case.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

It's not an arbitration case (long-term vandal though), but the person who is aware is also a CU. Do you want me to email you the master? Elockid ^(Talk) 01:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay, sent. Elockid ^(Talk) 01:55, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Looks like we're dealing with two types of socks (or a single kind using different edit summaries; that edit summary used by the user you just blocked (who vandalized my talk page) was used many times by other blatantly obvious socks).Jasper Deng (talk) 02:02, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I think it's the second one. Oh yeah almost forgot, if you feel the need, message me if you need your talk page protected. Elockid ^(Talk) 02:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping out. Elockid ^(Talk) 23:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:25, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!

Glad to know what may happen to articles. I am new so I am learning the basics to it. So will there be any way to make it less of a "product" page so it can be submitted? Thanks! --Gavin Stubbs (talk) 00:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Pumi

Hey, I saw your edit at Pumi (dog) and wanted to comment, since I don't think that the edit in question warranted rollback -- it didn't seem like vandalism at all to me. In fact, a quick check online is showing me that Pumik are apparently "quite" easy to train, even if this person didn't cite their source: [1] — anndelion (talk) 00:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I usually consider unsourced dramatic edits to be vandalism, as it is very common for this kind of refactoring to occur.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

That's true, but in this case it wasn't vandalism, so I thought I'd let you know. Dog breed traits can be muddy in some cases, especially when the breed is rare. — anndelion (talk) 01:48, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: SDK carbine

Hello Jasper Deng. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of SDK carbine, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article contains sufficient context to identify the subject. Let me know if you have any questions. Feezo (Talk) 01:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Barack Obama

The user whom you accused of racism on the Barack Obama conspiracy theories article has began throwing a fit over being accused of racism, and although I personally suspect racism is a motive for many of those spreading falsehoods against Mr. Obama, unless I'm missing something, I didn't find anything explicitly racist in his edits. In the future, might it be best to try to word warnings as neutrally as possible? The warning against putting unsourced controversial information would have been enough. Kansan (talk) 16:58, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The edits in question[2] can reasonably be construed as racist in nature. Whatever may or may not be in the editor's heart, the content they added to the article is misinformed, racially insensitive, and possibly offensive at the very least, and their subsequent behavior seams to bear this out. I agree that it's best not to escalate things because raising the heat just inflames tension and lowers the chance of an errant editor's ever becoming productive, but I'm not sure what difference it would make in this case. - 17:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

That seemed to me like a fairly uninformed attempt to describe liberation theology as preached by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. However, based on this user's edits as a whole, I do tend to agree that it's unlikely that much difference would be made in this particular case.

In any case, I am not an admin, and this user clearly violated BLP on that article.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Google (3rd nomination)

I believe you wanted {{humorous}}. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 03:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Definitely.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

DailyEditor

Jasper, last week you chimed in over at WP:WQA between myself and DailyEditor as he was flailing personal attacks at me and vice versa. Just thought you'd be curious to know that DE messaged me saying their account was hacked by a "teen Roman whack-job" who did all the personal attacks and is now apologizing for any trouble it might have caused. Note DE decided to play around with my name for some reason as well (not sure what that's about). Anyway I'm not really buying it, but whatever. DE seems have gotten into a tussle with another user, Xeworlebi over edits made to White Collar and claimed their account was hacked there as well. I'm not sure what is going on but it may bear investigating. Cyberia23 (talk) 03:59, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't believe him/her either.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:03, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Me neither. If you go to White Collar Nielsen Rating on Xeworlebi you can see the badgering that DE started there. Looks to me like they're getting scared of being blocked so now they're lying to make themselves look better. It seems very underhanded. Cyberia23 (talk) 04:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Jasper, is there any way, "for the record," that DE's claims of their account use by an unauthorized user be added to our cases over on WP:WQA? Both cases have already been archived, so I'm not sure if they can be further edited. Incivility on our parts aside, if DE is telling the truth, and we find out later that I was dealing with someone other than him, then I think it should be noted in there somewhere. As you stated to DE on Xeworlebi's talk page, he was responsible for the security of his account, and if it were not for their negligence, none of this would have happened in the first place. Cyberia23 (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think WQA is appropriate.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

SPS

Instead of citing WP:SPS, look down one paragraph, to he relevant policy for the Carlos Slim issues, WP:SELFPUB. Please also be careful not to bite the newcomers. Courcelles 05:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I was about to cite WP:BLP but forgot to do so.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Which article was that on?

Your warning here, what article did it relate to? The last entry into this user's contribution log is from mid-March. Risker (talk) 01:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

See WP:AN/EW.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

You're kidding me. Reverts over two months don't really count, especially when NOBODY has explained to this editor what the problems are with his edits. Perhaps you should go and do that, as it is more likely to have a positive outcome than leaving a templated message that didn't even identify the problem. Risker (talk) 02:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Well didn't know it was stale. Thought it would've been archived.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Non-admin actions at WP:AN3

Hello Jasper. While all editors are welcome to add their own comments on 3RR cases, please do not use the {{AN3}} template or try to close cases. For example you did this here. 'Warned' has a technical meaning; it is a kind of an admin action which is just short of a block. Since the case was stale, this is not an appropriate result. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:41, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I did not try to close the case.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:43, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

An admin reading a case who sees that anyone has used the {{AN3}} template will assume that an admin has already given their opinion, and no further review is needed. EdJohnston (talk) 03:31, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Didn't know. Thanks.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

My RFA

That's correct, I'm having a little trouble with the formatting. The last tinme I submitted an RFA was a long time ago. Wikipedian2 (talk) 04:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Courtesy notification

Hello Jasper Deng, I'm just letting you know that I just declined your speedy nomination of User:Crlsmrgf, because it appears to be a good-faith editing test: Esta es una prueba para ver como funciona Wikipedia a la hora de editar una página means "this is a test, to see how Wikipedia works when (I try to) edit a page". Cheers. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't understand spanish though. Isn't it that no pages should be in something other than English here?Jasper Deng (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, technically, yes. As a matter of courtesy towards fellow editors, people should try to only write in English. In this case, however, I believe that an exception could be made, as the user was trying to learn Wiki markup on his page, so as not to mess up, when editing an actual article and was using Spanish because it would make it a little easier for him (I'd wager he expected nobody would be paying attention to his page)... Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 20:25, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely, an exception. WP:DONTBITE.

Please, Jasper Deng - be very lenient regarding user pages - and other userspace areas - especially for new users. Instead of slapping a big "THIS WILL BE DELETED" template, try talking to the user - ask 'em if you can help. Make 'em welcome. Discuss your concerns.

A page in foreign isn't a real concern - unless it is something nasty - and Google Translate will give enough to not worry, usually.

I appreciate your vigilance, but... in return, please recognize the necessity to be super-friendly with new users. See User:Ironholds/n.

Sorry...I hope this isn't seen as complaining...it's not. Just advice.  Chzz  ►  20:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Using Rollback on Roshanamila's edits

If you are here about why I reverted many of this user's edits, see User talk:Ohnoitsjamie#Roshonamila.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The user has been blocked.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

1RR

Hi. Thanks for your message. I'm involved because I accused TheCuriousGnome of canvassing (see the editor's talk page as well as the template's talk page). Thanks, — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate you removing the comments from the "Baby got Back" SPA. I've been dealing with vandalism/OR/etc. on this article for awhile, and there comes a time when it's not worth arguing about it anymore. There was a sudden surge of meatpuppetry there today leading to me semi-protecting it, probably orchestrated from a forum. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 02:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Restoring tags

I have reverted the blanking of User:RMHED. This editor left Wikipedia some time ago under unhappy circumstances, and has not engaged in any problematic activity for some time. Experience has taught that when this occurs, blanking the tags on userpages is often helpful in eliminating a possible continued source of grievance by the departed user against the site. In the absence of continuing problems, forcing such tags to remain indefinitely may often be perceived by the former user as an act of harassment or provocation, even though I am sure you had no such intent. Therefore, I ask that you leave this page in its current blanked state. Thank you, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:28, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

By way of update, I've now seen the thread above this one, and taken a look at the offsite thread that you cited there. I still think it makes much more sense to leave RMHED's userpage alone, but I do now understand what led you to think of restoring the tags there. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:31, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Chess notation

Many of my books use descriptive so that's why used it in editng the article. I don't think writing decripotive move is vandalism at all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.152.93 (talk) 05:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

It is Wikipedia's convention to use algebraic notation, and that's the way you should write chess articles here, period.Jasper Deng (talk) 15:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

checkmate?

Were you talking about this position?

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8									8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.152.93 (talk • contribs)

Yes, it is checkmate.Jasper Deng (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I would be surprised if there is any series of legal chess moves that would lead to the above position. Two kings are en prise at the same time. EdJohnston (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Promote to queen?

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8									8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

White could of promoted to a knight to fork, would black be able to checkmate white here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.152.93 (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

No, White probably wins after 1.f8=N+ as he will be a knight up.Jasper Deng (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Page protection

I've protected this talk page. It would be advisable to set-up a subpage just for IPs to be able to communicate with you, as there may be some legitimate IP edits. GedUK  19:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: removing comments

Hey Jasper, I am sorry. I saw they had been warned multiple times, I read that link, and interpreted that they should not be able to do that with their warnings and all. Sorry. I'll leave talk pages alone if they get blanked... Dont totally understand that. Are my article reverts and anti-vandalism there going well? Thanks VoteDemOut! (talk) 17:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

sandbox

nope totally cool. how did you do that anyway? VoteDemOut! (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

See WP:USERSPACE.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

RHM22's RfA

Hi there. Fixed the question for you, the template is "Rfa-question" but you had "RfA-question" with a capital A, which is why it was giving you trouble. Incidentally, I didn't mean to cut in front of you with my own question; for some reason I didn't get an edit conflict when I added "my" question 4. The software can be quite quirky, it seems. 28bytes (talk) 18:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Skype

Hi there. Don't forget to turn off the Skype toolbar when editing, or else this could happen. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 00:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Ctrl+F did not find that.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:06, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Some more information about the issue can be found here. 28bytes (talk) 00:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Torqued...

I'm pretty sure it's not a real word when used that way, but it basically means a user has a grudge against you. They seem to have gone out of their way to mimic your editing patterns and comments to implicate you as a sockmaster. Out of curiosity, did you ever have past experiences with any of the blocked users? Swarm ^X 21:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hm, according to Wikt:torqued off it is indeed slang (a synonym of "pissed off"). Strange. I've never heard it used before. Swarm ^X 21:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Have had no past experiences with this user, but harassment on my talk page has greatly increased after my incident with Lar - see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Wawawaer.Jasper Deng (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

"torqued off"

It's slang. It means to be angry or upset with someone. It doesn't seem to be clear where it comes from..—Kww(talk) 21:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

A few notes

Hi, just wanted to let you know that your user talk page is no longer semi-protected. Also, any spammers on your talk page should be listed at WP:AIV (not the general noticeboard) after sufficient warnings are given. Finally, I'd advise you to use a bit more caution in !voting on RfAs. Vague statements like "you don't edit talk pages enough" (BCD's RfA) should be avoided or further explained. I think you should also be less harsh and avoid simply saying, "Where's your understanding of WP:BLP[?]" without indicating what you are referencing. RfA is tough and extremely stressful, so need to make it more so than necessary. Thanks. Guoguo12--Talk--  02:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

BCD's RfA

Re "Shows a problem with handling edit conflicts"—I've never been able to figure out how to get comments around edit conflicts, so out of curiosity, do you know how best to handle them? Usually, I have to reload the whole page, but it's frustrating on long pages like ANI, and then the sections disappear due to archiving, etc.—you get the point. So, any tips? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hard to explain. Copy your own comments, and insert them in the appropriate places relative to the comment of the person you've had an edit conflict with. Indent properly. Your own comment is in the diff provided.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank You so much

I didn't even notice someone blanked one of my user boxes. Thanks for fixing that:)--Nyswimmer (talk) 03:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I patrol recent changes and new users and happened to catch it.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Don't worry about the above notice, just me being stupid and asking you a question I can find out myself. CJ ^{Drop me a line! • Contribs} 13:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Not vandalism

There was no vandalism by this user. Not everyone is trying to sabotage Wikipedia, and "The Fuck Off And Dies" is, in fact, an actual project. — anndelion ❋ 19:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

You can't believe everything you read on Facebook. In other words it isn't a reliable source, and that was what triggered the rollbacks.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

That was a perfectly legitimate false positive report. Do not roll them back, especially if he provides a source (however weak). Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

It sounded like a bad faith edit too, given the vulgar language, which is almost always a red flag.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I understand you made a mistake. However, when people report false positives, please do not remove them except if the report happens to be solely something along the lines of "You are all gay faggots!!!" (i.e. pure vandalism). Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The removal occured as a result of previous removals, like those by you, but the line has to be drawn.Jasper Deng (talk) 20:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The point is that you should slow down a bit and search before deciding an edit is vandalism -- it only takes a moment. For some people, it's a huge turnoff to get "warned" erroneously. — anndelion ❋ 20:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

OK then.Jasper Deng (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

CSD declined

Hi Jasper Deng. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for User:Datmax/Child Abuse Victims' Rights Act, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, under criterion it is propoganda and in no way belongs here because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Concern: Not a valid CSD, please take to MfD. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal is called

Hello, Jasper Deng.

First, thanks for your recent assistance and your dedicated care for mannerism. I appreciate it. (You still have room for improvements... but I too.)

Second, I have called Mediation Cabal. Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2011-04-16/Internet Explorer 10. Nothing obliges you to participate if you don't wish; but I had to notify you.

Thanks.

I've completed my observations, you can see them here: Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2011-04-16/Internet Explorer 10. —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 12:46pm • 02:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

North High School

im sorry i dont know wikipedia talk. could i get that last one in laymans terms please174.126.191.197 (talk) 04:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Simply put, we don't take any jokes in our articles. Information about living people must be sourced reliably and all information must be in general.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:42, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me if i'm wrong, but that entire article is a joke174.126.191.197 (talk) 04:45, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Check again. I removed the jokes.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

not that article, this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editcountitis and you also removed a lot of true information, and missed some jokes. id love to continue this conversation but it will have to wait until another day174.126.191.197 (talk) 04:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The message was not in reply to that.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

all im saying is that's a joke article that should be obliged to abide by the same rules as all others174.126.191.197 (talk) 19:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Please indent. We have humorous pages like that; however, they do not exist in the article namespace. The project namespace has exemptions.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

well can i make a humorous page for my school in that case?174.126.191.197 (talk) 03:08, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

No.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:37, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

why not174.126.191.197 (talk) 21:29, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

We cannot accept information that is not verifiable.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

It's best to be careful of language like this. We as Wikipedia volunteer editors are not qualified to judge whether anything is defamatory or not. Verifiability (which you correctly mention) and the WP:BLP policy are much better starting points. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:24, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Refactored. I do not know of a policy specifically prohibiting jokes, but, it's a TW warning option, and I agree it's not allowed.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: April 2011

Hi Jasper. Thanks for replying to the issue that I posted. I think you misread part of my post. I (we) haven't contributed anything to the Wikipedia articles I'm inquiring about. The same goes for the links to our articles -- I (we) haven't added links on Wikipedia to our site -- they were all given by hundreds of different Wikipedia editors over the years. So, there is no conflict of interest at play on our end. What I'm asking about is a Wikipedia editor's systematic removal of the links on Wikipedia to our site. More detail on that in my post though. Thanks for any help you can give.Vrsti (talk) 04:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Accounts cannot represent a group-they can only represent individuals. It doesn't matter if you've edited or not. You still have a conflict of interest regardless of whether you've edited or not. Asking about the removal of your site's links constitutes a conflict of interest, for instance. In addition, the articles are not yours - they are the community's, and it will have to go the way the community likes it, not the way you like it.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again Jasper. I replied to you here too. I understand and respect your rules on conflicts of interest. Since you're a disinterested party, can you check out what this editor is doing to see if it's appropriate editing behavior?Vrsti (talk) 05:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

See WP:EL - likely, the links did not go according to that.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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A tip

Hi Jasper. I see you keep deleting Eagles' messages to you. You're perfectly within your rights to do that, per WP:BLANKING, but I recommend that you don't. Eagles is genuinely trying to help you better understand WP policy (he's correct about the COI issue), and it's best to have a conversation on a talk page (that's what they're there for) than through edit summaries, even if you don't like what you're hearing. 28bytes (talk) 02:33, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I acknowledge them by deleting the comments.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:43, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

ANI notice

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A word of encouragement

Hey Jasper, since I've been commenting on that ANI thread, I thought I would take a time out to let you know that I really do think you're a good Wikipedia editor and I'm not trying to frustrate you or get you in trouble; I'm just trying to help smooth things out. Keep up your good work on Wikipedia - we need good editors. Kansan (talk) 15:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I like you and 28bytes' help.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit more cluefully

Jasper, get off Malleus' talk page, get off of WT:RFA, read my summary of your ANI thread, and take it to heart. When a lot of people think you're causing problems, and there is a very long current ANI thread about it, that is a really poor time to intentionally stir up trouble. If you do so again, I'll undo my closing of the ANI thread, and propose there that you be blocked; don't assume that proposal wouldn't find traction. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I will get off those talk pages regarding this issue. I hereby agree to mentorship given these events.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)