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Non notable hotel. The Bosphorus, Riyadh, Boston and Jackson Hole hotels in this group have already been deleted. A few hotels in the chain are notable in their own right and I have not included these. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC) [reply]

~~I am also nominating the following related pages because they also are completely non-notable Jezhotwells (talk) 22:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC):~~ [reply]

Withdraw: OK, I accept that my opinion on this nomination is not shared by others, so I withdraw this nomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes the notability guidelines. Here is an article from Atlanta Business Chronicle, which covers this hotel holding a drive to fund cancer research. Furthermore, The Four Seasons Hotel Atlanta is one of only two hotels in Georgia that have earned five star ratings from Mobil. Also, this hotel has received some coverage in The New York Times. Cunard (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to speedy keep all without prejudice to a renomination with all the articles getting their own AfD debates. As I demonstrated above with Four Seasons Hotel Atlanta, it is notable. This is likely the case with most of the articles included in this bundled-up AfD.
I placed my above "keep" before Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) decided to mass nominate all these hotels. Cunard (talk) 23:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Yes it takes a little time to add all of the details. I look forward to editors providing proof of notability beyond Pr fluff of the type cited by Cunard which is actually about another hotel chain. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - note that the Four Seasons Hotel Miami is the tallest building in the state of Florida, so it is definitely notable. These buildings should be nominated individually, as clearly some meet notability guidelines. Cheers, Rai•me 23:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, the building may be notable on heightist grounds, but the hotel is not. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence of the article is "The Four Seasons Hotel Miami, also known as the Four Seasons Tower, is a skyscraper in Miami, Florida." The article is clearly more about the skyscraper, and as the tallest building in Florida and the 51st tallest building in the US the structure is certainly notable. I don't know about the notability of all of these hotels, but the fact that this tower was lumped in as "completely non-notable" makes me think that individual AfDs would be better. -- Rai•me 23:52, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep at least the one I am familiar with, the Four Seasons Resort Hualalai has a notable ancient settlement site with petroglyphs that have been studied, and they have worked hard to preserve it and provide public access. Also perhaps because they have a private airline, the Kona Shuttle for their guests and the neighboring Hotel. Maybe perhaps remove the advertising speak and rename the article to be about the ancient site named Kaʻupulehu, with one paragraph on the Hotel. I have been meaning to do this, but do not have the time this week.

Keep Not only is this the tallest building in the state of Florida, but it is often the site Miami socialite activity and its existence is evidence of the gentrification of the area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.112.148 (talk) 22:38, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The two in Chicago are the only five-star hotels in the Midwest.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all if there are any non-notable ones, nominate them separately--even for a chain as well-known as this, some of the locations might not be notable. .But the combined nomination here was poorly chosen--for example, among the ones on the list was the NYC one--which is apparently the flagship of the chain. DGG ( talk ) 06:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I concur with DGG. You have not demonstrated that all of the articles you have nominated are non-notable. Individual deletion discussions for those that you can show are would be more advisable. +Hexagon1 12:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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-Non notable hotel. The Bosphorus, Riyadh, Boston and Jackson Hole hotels in this group have already been deleted. A few hotels in the chain are notable in their own right and I have not included these. [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 22:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
+<s>Non notable hotel. The Bosphorus, Riyadh, Boston and Jackson Hole hotels in this group have already been deleted. A few hotels in the chain are notable in their own right and I have not included these. [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 22:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 I am also nominating the following related pages because they also are completely non-notable [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 22:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC):
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+*'''Withdraw''': OK, I accept that my opinion on this nomination is not shared by others, so I withdraw this nomination. [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 18:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' Passes the [[WP:N|notability guidelines]]. [http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2001/09/17/newscolumn4.html Here] is an article from ''[[Atlanta Business Chronicle]]'', which covers this hotel holding a drive to fund cancer research. Furthermore, The Four Seasons Hotel Atlanta is [http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2005/10/10/story1.html?t=printable one of only two hotels in Georgia ]that have earned five star ratings from [[Mobil#Mobil Travel Guide|Mobil]]. Also, this hotel has received [http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/09/travel/what-s-doing-in-atlanta.html?pagewanted=2 some coverage] in ''[[The New York Times]]''. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 22:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 :*Changed to '''speedy keep all''' without prejudice to a renomination with all the articles getting their own AfD debates. As I demonstrated above with Four Seasons Hotel Atlanta, it is notable. This is likely the case with most of the articles included in this bundled-up AfD.<p>I placed my above "keep" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Four_Seasons_Hotel_Atlanta&oldid=309329762 before] {{user|Jezhotwells}} decided to mass nominate all these hotels. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 23:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)