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**That is from the German copy of Brod, will ask Gerda.
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*Perhaps state explicitly if Bauer was the inspiration for "The Judgment" and these other stories, acting as a muse or whatnot.
*Perhaps state explicitly if Bauer was the inspiration for "The Judgment" and these other stories, acting as a muse or whatnot.
**That is from the German copy of Brod, will ask Gerda. [[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 00:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
*"was born in 1914 or 1915 and died in Munich just before his seventh birthday in 1921." - By my count, if he turned 7 in 1921 then he was born in 1914.
*"was born in 1914 or 1915 and died in Munich just before his seventh birthday in 1921." - By my count, if he turned 7 in 1921 then he was born in 1914.
*What is an octavo?
*What is an octavo?

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Franz Kafka

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Nominator(s): PumpkinSky (talk · contribs) and Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs)

I am nominating this for featured article because I feel it is finally ready for FAC. It had a GA review by Grapple X and several people active in its PR review, especially Brian Boulton. Also active at PR and post-PR improvement were: Truthkeeper88, Sarastro1, Malleus Fatuorum, and Lou Kash (who speaks Czech). Kafka wrote in German but was from Prague, now in the Czech Republic. This round of improvement began by Gerda and I on Aug 1st as part of this year's CORE contest, in which this article took 2nd place in the CORE competition (see article talk). This is Gerda's first or second FAC nomination, depending on how you count things. We are grateful to these people and several others who helped get this article this far. PumpkinSky talk 22:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image review
  • You shouldn't force image sizes. I, for one, prefer somewhat bigger images, so 150px looks tiny.
    I fixed this ;) default or upright. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Kafka portrait.jpg - What makes this PD in the US?
This is a crop/derivative of another file on Commons. The photo is from Zeno, which to my understanding is a reliable source and they say it is PD/free of claims. I've copied the Zeno notice from the main photo to this crop.PumpkinSky talk 01:03, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Kafka's parents c1913.jpg - Was this published in 1913 or just taken around 1913? If the latter, it may not be PD in the US. Caption should be "Kafka's parents, c. 1913" or "Kafka's parents, c. 1913"
This was deleted for the same reason as the one below.PumpkinSky talk 11:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Kafka c1896.jpg - Where's the indication that this was published before 1923? If it's an anonymous work, PD-70 doesn't apply. You need Template:Anonymous-EU for this, not PD-70.
I have looked into this, and as is often the case with old photographs, it's complicated. Both are in my old copy of The Trial, published in 1968, without a copyright notice. So, according to here [1] they are " In the public domain due to failure to comply with required formalities". But it says under sources that they are "Courtesy of Dr Klaus Wagenbach". Other photographs of Kafka and his family are published in "Kafka: A Very Short Introduction" [2] and the copyright of these other photographs are said to be held by the Archiv Klaus Wagenbach, Berlin. I can't find a lifespan for "Fuchs", who might not have been the actual photographer, but the name of the firm. IMHO, for an FA, I think the status of these two images is currently too vague for inclusion. I suggest we remove them until we are certain.Graham Colm (talk) 08:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with that. We have to sure of the licensing. I see Graham has already deleted them.PumpkinSky talk 11:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Prose comments
  • "characters on a terrifying quest" - Is this a theme or an archetype?
    • more of an archtype. PumpkinSky talk 01:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Right now you have "themes of ... characters on a terrifying quest" in the lede. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • For Kafka, I can see that it's a recurring theme. UTOH, I just typed that without realizing it was a pun. I'm sure Freud would make something of that. I'm open to rewording. PumpkinSky talk 01:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • Perhaps change the opening from "themes like..." to "themes and archetypes like..." — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Amerika or Der Verschollene) - What are these for? Not translations
    • those are the English titles, German name first, English in parens, Amerika has the same name in both languages. The Der Verschollene is an alternate name, but from the lead.PumpkinSky talk 01:07, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • In that case, Amerika is redundant. Der Verschollene should be noted as an alternate title and not a translation like the titles in parenthesis before it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is the information about Grandpa pertinent to this Kafka?
    • I'd think so as he was the "ritual slaughterer", so it ties more into the Jewish heritage of the family.PumpkinSky talk 01:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps use {{lang}} with non-English names? Did one for you.
While the only visible changes to most users is italics, it helps with screen readers, improving accessability, so I will start on this right now. Let me know if I miss somthing.PumpkinSky talk 11:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • composing the annual report on the insurance institute. The reports - Report or reports?
    • One per year, so I'd leave it singular and lower case. PumpkinSky talk 01:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • This is rather unclear as we don't know how long he was at that office. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • We know he started at the Accident Insurance Bureau in 1908, right around Aug 1st. He seems to have worked there til at least the winter of 1913-14, and possibly longer. By 1915-1917 his illness was affecting his life in a big way. I'm having trouble finding a precise end date of that job. I'll ask Gerda about this as she's better at figuring out this sort of thing than I am. PumpkinSky talk 14:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • He certainly did it for more than one year. Perhaps a way to make that clearer? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • According to the Chronology at the end of his diaries, he took sick leave in 1917 but returned in 1920. According to Gray, in "Kafka: A collection of critical essays", between 1920 and 1923 he was frequently on sick leave. These sources give no precise dates, but it is possible he never formally resigned from the Assicurazioni Generali. Graham Colm (talk) 15:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • Such context would be best worked in, so we have a rough idea how his "bread job" went. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • That's definite, way more than a year. Graham and Crisco---this is why it's so hard to pin down the dates in his later years, he was often sick. Thanks for sorting the details Graham, but you're confusing the Acc. Generalli (where he was fro 1906-1908) with the Worker's Acc. Ins. Bureau, where he started in 1908. Perhaps "...composed the annual reports on the insurance institute for the several years he worked there" ... and then "In his later years his illness often prevented him from working". PumpkinSky talk 15:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's it for today. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps state explicitly if Bauer was the inspiration for "The Judgment" and these other stories, acting as a muse or whatnot.
    • That is from the German copy of Brod, will ask Gerda. PumpkinSky talk 00:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was born in 1914 or 1915 and died in Munich just before his seventh birthday in 1921." - By my count, if he turned 7 in 1921 then he was born in 1914.
  • What is an octavo?
  • Then, in July 1923, during a vacation to Graal-Müritz on the Baltic Sea, Kafka met Dora Diamant, a 25-year-old kindergarten teacher from an orthodox Jewish family. - Look at those commas. Perhaps simplify?
  • he enjoyed sharing humor with his friends, but also helped them in difficult situations with good advice. - Kafka enjoyed, or Brod?
  • Although Kafka showed little interest in exercise as a child, he later showed interest in games and physical exercise, - Exercise ... exercise
  • "He was unknown during his own lifetime, but did not consider fame important. However, he became famous soon after his death." - This might be better under "death", methinks.
  • A couple long quotes at the end of the personality section that could be paraphrased.
  • Zionism too, per above.
  • "He was aged 40 years and 11 months." - Erm, is this necessary? We have a similar thing in the infobox.
  • (sector 21, row 14, plot 33) - Rather trivial. Good for the information template on the image page, bad for an article that's meant to be an overview.
  • So far the chronology of his major works seems unclear. Is this a stylistic choice, to separate his personal life and writings?
That's it for today. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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