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== [[WP:FEED|Feedback]] needs help ==
== [[WP:FEED|Feedback]] needs help ==


Some of the regulars who help out at [[WP:FEED|Feedback]] either aren't active o aren't as active as they have been (that includes me). My unscientific review of the backlog suggests that over half haven't received any response. Anyone willing to help?--<font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#002868;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#ADD8E6;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 13:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Some of the regulars who help out at [[WP:FEED|Feedback]] either aren't active or aren't as active as they have been (that includes me). My unscientific review of the backlog suggests that over half haven't received any response. Anyone willing to help?--<font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#002868;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#ADD8E6;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</font> 13:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

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    Welcome—ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia! (Am I in the right place?)


    June 24

    Citing the Same Source Multiple Times

    This is rather a technical question. As it can be seen here, reference number 5 & 6 are the same. That's because I didn't know how to use number 5 multiple times in different locations. So, how can I do that?

    Thank you! -- And Rew 03:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once, or alternatively, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (footnotes)#Reference name (naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    My Watchlist And Why Some Of The Bytes Are Bolded

    I know what the +n and -n is, but why is it bolded sometimes?Curb Chain (talk) 04:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe the bite count is bolded when the changed number of bytes is greater than 500. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:22, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Help:Watching pages#How to read a watchlist says: "Each line shows details of each edit: whether minor (m), whether made by a bot (b), the time, a link to the page, a link to the difference ("diff") made by the edit in question, a link to the page history ("hist"), the editor's user name or IP address, the increase (green) or decrease (red) in the number of bytes, e.g. (+76), (-490) or, if over 500, in bold: (+794), (-2,412), and the edit summary." --Teratornis (talk) 05:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikilinking to users and files on the Commons

    How do you wikilink to a specific User or a specific File on the Commons. For example [[User:EXAMPLE|EXAMPLE]] (EXAMPLE) only shoots to a Wikipedia userpage; how would I wikilink instead to that user's Commons userpage?--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    [[Commons:User:Example|Example at Commons]] gives you Example at Commons. See Help:Interwiki linking. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks John.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    List of POV problems?

    Hi -- I'm assuming there's probably a place where all pages tagged with POV problems are listed. I may be able to assist with editing these pages, but I can't find the list. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, --Jp07 (talk) 09:29, 24 June 2011 (UTC).[reply]

    See Category:NPOV disputes. There are many, good luck! — jwillbur 10:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Google searches

    Given the limitations of Wikipedia's search function, I use Google for more complex Wikipedia searches, and have the site specific search saved as:- http://www.google.com/custom?sa=Google+Search&domains=en.wikipedia.org&sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org This now produces the following error message:-

    We're sorry...
    ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries.
    To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
    See Google Help for more information.

    Google Help is, predictably, no help at all. Other Google pages just keep suggesting I use Google Chrome rather than IE as a browser.
    Is there another way to get site specific searches of Wikipedia on IE?
    Arjayay (talk) 09:32, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    A workaround is to include your desired search in the link. As an example, I typed {{google wikipedia|"The quick brown fox"}} into my sandbox, did a preview to see this link and then clicked the link to do the search. Messy, but it gets around Google's unhelpful behaviour. There's more discussion at the Village Pump. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You can also add Wikipedia as a search provider, I think. Unfortunately, I don't have access to IE at the moment, so I can't test it, but see this page.--Kateshortforbob talk 09:41, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks both - for the moment, the following link is working
    http://www.google.com/webhp?domains=en.wikipedia.org&sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org
    Arjayay (talk) 12:32, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Buster Browns

    iam trying to find out the name of a store that was located in asbury park late 60 70on cookman avenue it sold all children clothes and buster brown shoes and stride rite shoes please find out the name for me thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.173.114 (talk) 14:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 15:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Website Inquiry

    I need to know the Author who created the page/listing of a certain page that is unauthorized on your website. Please email me back with your contact information so we can contact the author of this page. My email is <blanked>

    Kind regards,

    John D. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.16.203 (talk) 16:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry, but there is no one author of a page. Wikipedia is a joint effort of several volunteer editors. Furthermore, if an article is properly sourced, there is no need for official authorization. You may want to see this page for more info. TNXMan 16:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see WP:OWN. There is no such thing as "unauthorized". --ColinFine (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sorry, but exactly what page is it? Also, we cannot send anything to your email because providing personal information is against the wikipedia policy. We will respond on your talk page once you provide us with the article title. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks! A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you want to cite the article, you can use the cite this article link in the toolbox on the left side of your screen when you're looking at the article. - 194.60.106.17 (talk) 09:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Image loaded but does not appear

    Resolved

    I have created & saved a new page, a bio called "Fred Chester Bond," on my user page, & it looks okay EXCEPT the image does not appear. The link to the photo works fine when I try it otherwise. Imat6441 (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears that the page Fred_Chester_Bond has successfully been moved into the encyclopedia and the image problems resolved by user: Demiurge1000. CaptRik (talk) 17:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    PDF availibility of an older article version

    I was wondering if there is any way to create a PDF of an older version of an article than the current one? I'd need an original PDF of the "Wikipedia" entry from January 29th 2011, 14:22. Thanks in advance! maja färggren 17:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maja färggren (talkcontribs)

    Sorry, you can't. Island Monkey talk the talk 17:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes you can. Find the version in the page history, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia&oldid=410687146, and click "Download as PDF" under Print/export in the left panel. Note however that if the page makes any transclusions then you will se the current version of the transcluded page. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm. What would be necessary to have Wikipedia transclude the versions of the transcluded pages as of the date of the old version that you are looking at?Naraht (talk) 21:14, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    It worked! Thanks a million!! maja färggren 19:34, 25 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maja färggren (talkcontribs)

    A request from NPS staff.

    I received a request on my discussion page from the Park Interpreter at Oregon Caves National Monument. Obviously, there is some misunderstanding but I don't think the opportunity should be blown off. However, I think this should be handled by someone with a better understanding of the issues than myself and some tact. Anyone who feels qualified can respond on his/hers talk page. –droll [chat] 18:31, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm on it. – ukexpat (talk) 18:41, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    A couple of replies at User talk:Cqcosner. – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. –droll [chat] 19:14, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    where do I go (place or even just a user) to get some help with making a bot to do some data gathering and analysis?

    I would like to scan the DYK archives and compile a list of DYK articles, submitters, and hooks. I can specify the info I need and how much, and do some analyis afterward, but would like help from a bot maker to get the scrape done.

    Also, if they have the ability to do some simple checks on users as well (join date, number of edits, admin flag) that would be useful as well. I'm thinking a little bit like the person who did the RFA data compilation. Will read out to him, but not sure if he likes me.

    Any advise on person or "other desk" to go for help?

    TCO (talk) 18:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:BOTREQ maybe? – ukexpat (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    section link

     Done

    I am trying to provide an internal Wikilink to section 3.2 of Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Collaborating_with_Other_Editors/Resolving_Content_Disputes. But when I type [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Collaborating_with_Other_Editors/Resolving_Content_Disputes#Proper Weight and Balance|excess detail]], the link goes to the page, but not the section. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the help. Kilmer-san (talk) 23:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Try using an internal link, this- [[Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Collaborating with Other Editors/Resolving Content Disputes#Proper Weight and Balance|excess detail]], gives this- excess detail. Also, remember to end your nowiki. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Error using the Book Creator

    I've tried putting together a pdf book of articles using the Book Creator and the system returned the following error ...

    Render server error From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    error message
    padding

    An error occured on the render server: RuntimeError: command failed with returncode 9: ['mw-render', '-w', 'rl', '-c', 'cache/c7/c73203cbe4874e74/collection.zip', '-o', 'cache/c7/c73203cbe4874e74/output.rl', '--status', 'qserve://localhost:14311/c73203cbe4874e74:render-rl', '--template-blacklist', 'MediaWiki:PDF Template Blacklist', '--template-exclusion-category', 'Exclude in print', '--print-template-prefix', 'Print', '--print-template-pattern', '$1/Print', '--language', 'en'] Last Output: >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=416404748' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2005 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2005 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:25 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=411992920' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2006 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2006 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:28 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=411992920' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2006 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2006 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:30 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=403132416' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2007 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2007 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:31 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=403132416' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2007 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2007 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:35 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=432023163' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2008 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2008 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:36 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=432023163' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2008 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2008 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:38 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=425344113' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2009 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2009 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:40 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=425344113' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2009 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2009 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:43 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=418366242' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2010 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2010 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:45 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=418366242' 84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2010 (U.S.)84.9090909091% laying out List of number-one albums of 2010 (U.S.)2011-06-24T15:11:47 rlwriter.info >> rendering: u'License' 84.9090909091% laying out License84.9090909091% laying out License84.9090909091% rendering 2011-06-24T15:11:47 rlwriter.info >> start rendering: u'/home/pp/sandbox/cache/c7/c73203cbe4874e74/tmpwlyvqS.rl' 2011-06-24T15:11:49 rlwriter.info >> memory usage after laying out: 1266.2421875 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering 84.9090909091% rendering in function system, file /home/pp/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mwlib-0.12.14-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/nslave.py, line 37

    Is this something I can fix? I can't understand the error. I would really appreciate some assistance please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalsegnomusic (talkcontribs) 23:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not familiar with this application. Can you give me a link to the application? I will look it over and see if I can help. I also don't know what I will need to know, but maybe you could link me to a couple (or all if it is not many) of the articles you wanted to use. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I realized that the pages are included in the urls of your post. Are there any pages that are not included? Maybe they are the problem. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:45, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The function is under "Print/Export" in the left pane and is called "Create a book". I'd appreciate any help Dalsegnomusic (talk) 23:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hmm, I got it to work and I think I have a theory of why it didn't for you. User:Ryan Vesey/Books/List of number one albums here is my page for the book, you can download it if you like. It is not in order, and if you would like a different order or more pages added and you still can't get it to work for yourself contact me again and I will redo it for you. Here is my theory. If you add the 5 articles to the book, you must click "Show book" from a newly refreshed article. I once clicked it from the fourth article I added, and it did not show all 5 of the articles in the book. I assume you clicked show book from the wrong article. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, I will try that. I appreciate your help. Dalsegnomusic (talk) 00:12, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    June 25

    Wikipedia "puzzle ball" ?

    Hi there. Part of your logo consists of a partially assembled "puzzle ball". Do they really exist and if so, how may I obtain one? thank you very much, Dave in California — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.193.74 (talk) 01:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    While the help desk is supposed to be specifically for problems related to Wikipedia, I did find an answer to your question. I did a google shopping search for Jigsaw puzzle balls. Hopefully you find this useful. Ryan Vesey (talk) 02:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are asking specifically about the Wikipedia logo, then some were made in 2007, but I have no idea how you could get hold of one. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    While Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based on helping its fellow users and Wikipedians, this is not the right place to ask that. I believe the correct place is the village pump. This is not a warning for blocking, this is just a reminder to not only you, but all people to find the right source of help the next time around. Also remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks! Sent from a laptop. A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 04:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Guidelines re verifiability of the content of quotations?

    Are there guidelines (either for articles in general or for information about living persons) that address the situation:

    1. It is verifiably true that So-and-so said "Such-and-such".
    2. Such-and-such itself is not verifiably true, or may even be false.

    Or in other words, while the verifiability policy clearly applies to quotations, to what extent does it or other guidelines address the content of quotations? I have had a look around but haven't found anything. Thanks. Nurg (talk) 02:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This one is a puzzler. One thing that I can think of is that something must be verified by a reliable third party source. Assuming that "such-and-such" is false, it would be probable that the source is not reliable. It also seems like WP:FRINGE may apply. Still, be careful that you are maintaining a neutral point of view and are not deciding whether a source is reliable enough on your own. Ryan Vesey (talk) 02:14, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You must be able to verify the first part. The next step is to establish why the fact that So-and-so said "Such-and-such" is genuinely encyclopedic content, especially under the higher standards which apply to biographies of living people. If Jane Scriptgirl blogged that reactionary talk show host Benn Gleck is actually a homosexual communist double agent, that's merely libel and has no place in the article about Benn Gleck, no matter how titillating the tabloids may find it. If Joan Trophywife, the former Mrs. Benn Gleck, made the same accusation in testimony before Congress, that might be notable (if only because such testimony is under oath). We leave the readers to decide for themselves as to the reliability of Joan's testimony and Benn's denials. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks guys. I'm not concerned about the issue of reliability of sources. Here's a made-up scenario. A notable riot occurred and a reliable source quotes Paul Prominent as saying "Colin Controversial incited the riot". There is no doubt that Paul made the statement about Colin. However no reliable source says that Colin actually incited the riot - and he may or may not have done so. If Colin did, no real harm is done by Wikipedia reporting that Paul said what he said. If Colin did not incite the riot (which we are not sure about), it may be considered a slur, no matter that Paul genuinely said it. I thought there might be guidelines about this, because it is easy to use a genuine quotation to slip in statements that would not stand if made outside a quotation. Nurg (talk) 03:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow, your question is difficult. This seems like a talk page discussion that would last for a long time. My personal opinion, and I hope it reflects wikipedia policy, would be to include the information in a way that did not make it appear to be a fact. I.e. "One possible explanation for the riot was offered by Paul Prominent who stated that 'Colin Controversial threw a rock through the window of a police car'" Ryan Vesey (talk) 03:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Ryan. I have refined the wording of my query and asked it at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Guidelines re verifiability of the content of reported statements? Nurg (talk) 06:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Table sorting by surname

    I'm trying to make the table on List of winners of the Mathcounts competition sortable by individual winner surname; it currently sorts by given name. The contents of that column of the table should remain the same, but the order in which the table sorts should be different. I have reviewed Help:Sorting, but have been unable to figure out how to make the appropriate alterations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 03:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't find any options that would allow the table to remain the way it is. I think you could either list the winners with a Last Name, First Name format, or use the separate tables for surname and given name format. What does WP:MOS say about sorting by Last Name, First Name? Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you could do this with the {{sort}} template. For example, if the first name becomes {{sort|Edwards M|Michael Edwards, [[Texas]]}} then it will sort as "Edwards". It does mean duplicating all the names, though, which might make it harder to maintain.
    An alternative would be to move the state name, Texas in this case, to a new column, leaving only the person's first and last names in the "Individual winner" column, and then use the {{sortname}} template to get the names to sort by surname. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the suggestions! The {{sort}} template works great; the benefit of being able to sort by surname outweighs the complication in maintenance. Now on to fix the link rot! Neelix (talk) 14:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    When creating sortable tables, there can be issues with how a column sorts. See Help:Sorting for a complete overview.

    • Columns that mix alpha and numerical data will sort alphabetically— this can be resolved by using {{nts}}.
    • When using general text with and without wikilinks, use {{sort}}.
    • To sort dates, use {{dts}}.
    • For sorting names in the format last, first use {{sortname}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 19:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading an image under Creative Commons non-commercial license

    I want to upload an image from a source that has given permission, but under the Creative Commons non-commercial license terms. That is not one of the choices under the upload page.

    Is it not allowed?

    Thanks, Ellis408 (talk) 04:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you trying to upload on Wikimedia Commons? Only free-use images can be uploaded on Wikimedia Commons. If it is a non-free/fair use image, you must upload on Wikipedia. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    That helps - thanks Ellis408 (talk) 04:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Even on Wikipedia a Creative Commons non-commercial license is not one of the choices on the upload page. Wikipedia does not accept any non-free license. When you upload a non-free file, you select a non-free category rather than a license. And non-free files can be uploaded and used only under the highly restrictive non-free content policy. —teb728 t c 04:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikilinks to disambiguation pages

    I have noticed some inappropriate links to disambiguation pages in place of a specific article. I.e. Clerk of the House links to a disambiguation page but in an article it should usually be more specific and link to a specific house. Is there a way for me to use a bot, or do a search to find Wikilinks that link to disambiguation pages so I can correct them? Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I know that there is a tool you can use, although I'm not quite sure where it is or what it's called. Sumsum2010·T·C 04:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Found it! It's called Dab solver and is located here:http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Dab_solver Sumsum2010·T·C 04:41, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfect, thanks! Ryan Vesey (talk) 19:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Anonymus IP constantly undoing my edits

    User 85.27.35.54 is constantly reverting my edits on article about Gregorij Rožman and he doesn't offer any explanation. Can someone block him? Tadej5553 (talk) 09:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think you should be deleting an established fact like with this edit. So anon appears to be correct in reverting although should have given reasons. Nasnema  Chat  10:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It's a bit more complicated here then it seem at firs sight... During the war in Yugolsavia (1941-1945) there were occupation authorities (first Italians, then Germans) in province of Ljubljana and they were censoring and even heavily modifying every letter, speech, announcement etc. intended for public release. And that pastoral letter counts as one of them. Tamara Griesse Pečar, who has done the most detailed study to date about mid-war activities of Gregorij Rožman, explains and confirms this with many examples (one of them is the his greeting to Grazzioli, which was, as she says, altered by the Italians so much that it wans't recognizable anymore). And this pattern appeared in all the newspapers, radio broadcasts etc.: they were all writing pro-nazi propaganda, and that was in sharp contrast to their beliefs and their pre-war writings. This is why you can't use Rožman's mid-war letters intended for public release for judging his beliefs (anon could use his private letters, but he doesn't ;) ). And this is why IP won't debate. He knows that he is merely repeating the smear campaign and propaganda used by the communist... Tadej5553 (talk) 10:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Just wondering, how do you know why IP won't debate? Have they told you why? Or is it your opinion that is why they won't debate? Same question as far as the IP knows he is merely repeating the smear campaign, how do you know they know this? GB fan (talk) 10:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    It takes two for a debate. Neither of you has touched Talk:Gregorij Rožman. Neither of you has touched the other's user talk page. You're both just edit warring on the article. —teb728 t c 10:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I left WP:3RR warnings on both your talk pages. —teb728 t c 11:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fine, I'll start a debate, no need for the warning BTW... Oh, and for the communist smear camping: I live in Slovenia, i know what it's like. It's pretty much like this articel: they say he held masses for Italians (no explanation why), met with occupation authorities (agani, no explanation), they quote altered version of his letters to authorities and accuse him of beliefs that he never had (like anti-semitism, for example...) Tadej5553 (talk) 11:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Tadej5553, please do not start an edit war. Those are feared by Wikipedians more than other users think they are. I totally understand the situation, however, starting an edit war with the IP address will get you blocked. Just keep your cool with the person, and calmly explain to him/her to stop reverting your edits. If you find there is no possible way to do so, you are always free and invited to take a Wikibreak. Anyway, one of the worst things to do is to start an edit war. It is unconstructive and potentially destructive to Wikipedia and is equivalent to public disturbance or nuisance to fellow Wikipedians. Also, I will give the IP address a warning. Thank you very much for reporting this situation to us. A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Back in Black's cover

    Could you transfer File:BackinBlackSingle.jpg on Commons? It should be in the public domain.--80.183.66.87 (talk) 13:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The file cannot be uploaded to Commons because it is currently used here under a claim of fair use. I don't see how it can be public domain, but you could perhaps ask the experts at Media copyright questions. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the argument would be that it is too simple a design to qualify for copyright protection and that it should be {{PD-text}}. – ukexpat (talk) 12:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Request

    Resolved

    User: Foodie 377 has been doing irrational editing/reverting in Template:Caste Groups of India (Kamma). Even after providing citations that were required, the revert game is going on. I tried to convince the person on talk page but in vain. He was warned and blocked for 24 hours. He is now back to his game. Please block the person indefinitely.Kumarrao (talk) 14:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Please take this to WP:ANI. Dismas|(talk) 14:25, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    This appears to have been resolved on Toddst1's talk page, where you posted this request previously. Tommyjb (talk) 15:51, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    8 resources not enough to save Pete Davis from Deletion?

    I have done everything I can and am starting to feel like someone is messing with me. I have resourced and re-resourced my article and someone keeps coming by (this time after weeks of inactivity) to say that my post on the man I work for, and have been charged with creating, is invalid in some way. I just need to know what EXACTLY I need to do to make [Pete Davis]'s page safe from deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by DustyDionne (talkcontribs)

    Is this the article that you are referring to: Peter Davis (theater historian)? - If not, please include a link to the article that you are talking about. Thanks, Darigan (talk) 15:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    My bad on above comment, it seems that the article Pete Davis has already been deleted. Wikipedians have placed some useful advice on your talk page. I would suggest reading some of the linked information in the top-most post on your talk page, and, if you believe that Pete Davis meets notability guidelines etc., then try creating an article as a userspace draft and request feedback on the draft version.
    Also, given that you have said that the article subject is your boss, you may want to read up on Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Darigan (talk) 15:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for reporting this to us. We will investigate on this situation. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) Thanks! A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 05:03, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Byron White

    Byron White (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    User:MrBudDude (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    I don't know how to fix this. The user effectively renamed the Byron White article to Whizzer White (Whizzer was a nickname). It should be put back the way it was. I assume the redirect has to be deleted (speedy delete?). Not sure.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I have moved it back per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). Moving over redirects with only one line in its history doesn't require deletion of previous pages. See WP:MOR.-- ObsidinSoul 16:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I read the policy, but it's not clear to me what the procedure is for doing it.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fuji Bank old account enquiry

    Dear How can I get my money from Fuji bank kokura kita-kushu-shi, Japan where I last diposited some money when I was working in Kokura in 1994 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.245.39.238 (talk) 17:32, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 doomgaze (talk) 18:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Poorly referenced section of article - what is the correct template

    Resolved
     – Template identified. Darigan (talk) 18:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, in this particular case, I'm looking at West_Ham_United_F.C.#Rivalries, which has some references, but by no means enough references to support all of the assertions made. I am confident that most of the assertions are accurate (to a greater or lesser extent) and as such do not want to delete swathes of the section due to lack of references, but I would like to place a notice saying that the particular section is poorly referenced, and needs more sources - Does anybody know what template I can put at the top of that section? Any help on this issue will add to my repertoire of templates which I can re-use elsewhere when appropriate. Cheers, Darigan (talk) 18:14, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    /edit/ I am aware of the citation needed template for individual assertions, for clarity, my query is about requesting extra references for an entire section rather than an individual assertion. All responses appreciated. Darigan (talk) 18:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this good? {{Refimprove}} - frankie (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Refimprove works but is specific to an entire article. To target just a section there's {{Unreferenced section}} and {{Refimprove section}}. See also Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the feedback Frankie & Fuhghettaboutit - I think in this instance, the advice offered by Fuhghettaboutit about the {{Refimprove section}} was the most suitable - I have applied it to the section of the article that I mentioned. Cheers, Darigan (talk) 18:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia hangs with my Chrome

    When I surf through articles, at one point of time, it loads a page seemingly endless, and the browser doesn't respond anymore. This happens very often, but only with Chrome? Is this a known issue? --Malaikaran (talk) 18:32, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I haven't heard about it. I occasionally use Chrome and have no problems. Try to clear the entire cache in Chrome. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try.--Malaikaran (talk) 18:54, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Note: I'm using Chrome as I type, and am not experiencing the issue you describe. Please let me/us know if clearing your cache solves the problem or not. Cheers, Darigan (talk) 18:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure how well that will do. Usually when it happens with mine, I can't do anything until google chrome offers to kill the pages, or I restart. I hate this, because Chrome is the only web browser I like. Ryan Vesey (talk) 18:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I also experience the same issue with chrome & Wikipedia, it tends to be when I have a largish number of Wikipedia tabs open. Quasihuman | Talk 19:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Then I'm not the only one. I expect, that clearing the cache won't solve the problem. Could someone meanwhile forward the issue to a technician?--Malaikaran (talk) 19:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The worst is when I am in the middle of a long edit. I lose it some of the time, but occasionally if I open up my recent tabs it will still be there with all of the content of my edit. Ryan Vesey (talk) 20:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    This issue happens for me on a semi-regular basis for me as well, in Chrome. It makes it impossible to navigate on any Wikipedia tabs, even after the never-loading tab is shut. However, if I close all of my Wikipedia tabs, any other tabs that I may have open work just fine. Buddy432 (talk) 04:27, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Another issue involving Chrome seems to be the neverending scrollbar. It lets me scroll down to infinity with zero content. This depends on the scrollbar's "mood".--Malaikaran (talk) 19:19, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I thought at one point it may be related to the custom javascript I have attached to my Wikipedia Skin, so I changed my skin to one without any custom javascripts and it still occurs. Bizzare. I am back to using firefox when using wiki. Tiggerjay (talk) 02:49, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    changing username

    I wish to change my username. I am only editing a pre-existing page, not adding new ones.

    How do I go about changing the username of my account?

    Edit 21:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RachelPaine (talkcontribs)

    It isn't usual to bother when you have less than a 100 edits or so. With only six, it would be easier to simply abandon this account and create a new one.--SPhilbrickT 21:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello. Please see Wikipedia:Username policy#Changing your username. Tommyjb (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Toggling images

    I'm attempting to toggle an image through various states using buttons on the side? Is there any way to do this?

    For example: Lv1 Lv2 Lv3 Lv4 I want one image to show at first (Lv1), and then when I click the button for Lv2, it overlays over Lv1 (Hide Lv1, show Lv2), and etc for each button, hiding the others, showing itself. Pyrofyr (talk) 21:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not clear as to what you're referring to. Are you looking for this within a Wikipedia article, or website design in general? Thanks Tiggerjay (talk) 02:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Within a wikipedia article 99.120.19.221 (talk) 02:55, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't recall seeing an effect like that in a Wikipedia article, but there is a small chance I may have seen something like that and forgotten about it. What article do you have in mind, and what are the images you want to display? Another option is to animate an image in Wikipedia so it scrolls automatically through a series of separate images. See Commons:Category:Animations. Also note that you apparently tried to display a stack of text like this:
    Lv1
    Lv2
    Lv3
    Lv4
    
    but your attempt did not work because you did not use one of the formatting methods in Help:Wiki markup#Limiting formatting/escaping wiki markup, or a table. You can also make fancy button-like things with the {{Key press}} template:
    Lv1
    Lv2
    Lv3
    Lv4
    
    but clicking them does not do anything. Doing that would be harder. Finally, note that the Wikipedia:Manual of Style kind of throws a wet blanket on our flights of page design fancy, at least when we edit articles. Most of the crazy design examples are in user pages. See Wikipedia:User page design center. --Teratornis (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Scroll gallery}} does not work at the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    June 26

    Original Wikipedia

    What happened to the original articles that were in existence before November 29, 2001? I was talking with some Wikipedians today at the NYC Wiknic about the old days, and I realized I couldn't remember my first contributions. I couldn't even say whether Wikipedia was online before the 9/11 incident.

    Is there an Original Wikipedia somewhere, and is there a way to look at old contribs? --Uncle Ed (talk) 04:21, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    There is no way of having an "Original Wikipedia" because it is impossible to decide what "original" is. It could technically be the first version of every new article. It is possible to look at old versions of a page by pressing the view history button next to the edit tab. Here is a link to the first valid New York City page. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    In addition, here is a link to your very first edit ever. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey, Ed. Do you mean the late 2000 Nupedia archives when the site was in its uber stages? Calmer Waters 04:43, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I'm referring to a dim memory of the changeover from the original Wikipedia software to a "new database schema" with the prospect that the edit history of some articles would be lost after the changeover. I'm getting old, so I wonder if I remember this right. --Uncle Ed (talk) 04:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Found this [1] :) Not pre-November 2001, but pretty close. How that for a flashback? Calmer Waters 05:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    THANKS! And I found my first edit (I knew it wasn't to Creationism).

    • I like the motto, "Be in charge and be humble." It reminds me of the Unification Thought ideal of leadership: love your partner, care for your partner, wield authority. The trick is to be sure that the authority one wield's is actually for the benefit of one's partner. It's so easy to fool (a) oneself, (b) one's partner, or (c) onlookers by falsely claiming that one governs for the sake of the governed.
    • Perhaps if all are equally powerful, false leaders (i.e., dictators) won't be tolerated. This would be a Good Thing.

    Sigh, I forgot the "be humble" part, but I'm on the comeback trail now, boys and girls! --Uncle Ed (talk) 05:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Lol. Check out this one from July 2001 [2]. Only 7,000 articles and that weird banner at the top. Calmer Waters 05:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You probably already know about the History of Wikipedia article. If not, then maybe the article or its talk page could provide something useful. --Teratornis (talk) 05:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    History of Wikipedia#Hardware and software mentions the various database rewrites. The MediaWiki software that runs Wikipedia now is not as old as Wikipedia itself, so things could have gotten lost in the early database migrations. --Teratornis (talk) 05:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with new Performing arts of Goa navbox

    I tried to create a new navbox Template:Performing_arts_of_Goa, but it isn'e working. Please can someone correct the problem and tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks The Discoverer (talk) 05:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay.. I fixed it.. stupid square bracket mistake in wikilinks The Discoverer (talk) 05:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Watchlist security flaw?

    If one IP address makes two or more edits to the same article over a short time, then my watchlist shows only the last of these edits, and the "diff" link also shows only the last edit. Thus a vandal or otherwise malicious user could potentially "cover up" their "bad" edits by immediately adding a separate "good" edit to the same article (for example correcting punctuation), and people with that article on their watchlist will see only the "good" edit. They will of course see the "bad" edit(s) as well if they also check the article's history, but how many people check history if they think the watchlist has told them everything? Silas S. Brown (talk) 08:50, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, I see your point, but checking the diff also shows the userid/IP of the previous editor as well, so when you check the diff you can see that (in your example) the same IP address would have also made a previous edit. Personally speaking, under such circumstances (which can happen with registered users as well as IP addresses) I always check history, wp:agf notwithstanding. a_man_alone (talk) 08:58, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You can go into your preferences --> watchlist --> advanced options and enable Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent. This will show all edits made to a watched page regardless of the period of time between edits or whether they were made consecutively by one user. Calmer Waters 09:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Alternatively, you could enable something like popups. Hover over the 'hist' link in your watchlist and you can see if there are other edits (whether by IP or registered editor) since the last 'good' version. Astronaut (talk) 11:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. The preference works great. I hope more people are aware of this. Silas S. Brown (talk) 17:01, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    My P.hd reserch about donagracia mendes

    Hello! I alredy published my P.hd reserch about donagracia mendes- nassi in Bar-Illan university Israel! Please help me to let readers to know about that fact of information!

    Thanks Dr. Tzvi Schaick tiberias, Israel [email redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.80.86 (talk) 10:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is not the place to publicise your PhD research, nor is Wikipedia the place to host your original research, so we cannot "let readers to know about that fact of information" (sic). However, you should probably tell your supervisors at the university that you have published. That said, I think some websites could benefit from your expertise in the subject. This includes Wikipedia's Gracia Mendes Nasi article, if you can supply references that meet our requirements for reliable sources and no original research (ie. rather than referencing your own paper, use the original sources). Astronaut (talk) 11:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Undo page move

    Signalling (telecommunications) was recently moved to Signaling_(telecommunications) by User:Johnuniq. This page move had previously been suggested on the talk page and I opposed per WP:ENGVAR. The actual move was performed without any discussion. How should I undo the move? Thanks! GyroMagician (talk) 12:06, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The page was originally at the single el spelling and was at that spelling for about four years until first moved on January 21, 2006 to the double el, here so the ENGVAR issue is not clear. You can make a formal request for a community discussion of a move by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves (which is always better than getting into a move war).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:21, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)The article started off in 2002 as Signaling (telecommunication) (one l). Then 4 years later in 2006 it was moved to Signalling (telecommunication) (2 lls) with an edit summary of "more neutral title; signalling is an acceptable spelling in both BrE and AmE." It then sat at that name for 4 years when it was moved back to the 1 l version to make the name consistent with the spelling in the article. Then it sat that way until yesterday when it was moved to 2 lls again with an edit summary of "over redirect: Total spelling check (cluster 3). Please look into double redirects. ~~~~" Today User:Johnuniq moved it back to the spelling that it has had most of the time it has been an article since 2002. So per WP:ENGVAR it should be at the name that the first major editor used. I think having it at the name with 1 l for the first 4 years qualifies as that being the name it should stay at. GB fan (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks both for clarifying. I must admit I hadn't looked back that far into the history - turns out it is...complicated. The issue came to my attention at the beginning of this year, and I hoped at least for a discussion before a move. I won't get into an edit war, and while I could go through the formal RfC, life's too short, I (and everyone else) could spend the time more productively. GyroMagician (talk) 23:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for tool to fill out citation templates

    In order to avoid having to manually fill out citation templates completely by hand, I've been using a tool at diberri.dyndns.org for the past year or two. Unfortunately, the web server appears to be down.[3] It was down the last time I tried using it (a couple weeks ago) so it might be gone permenently. Although it was far from perfect, it would attempt to extract information from a URL and attempt to auto-fill the citation for me. Can anyone recommend another tool for me to use? I am aware of http://toolserver.org/~magnus/makeref.php but this one doesn't seem too try to auto-fill in any of the fields other than access date. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Does this do what you want? TNXMan 15:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    No, unfortunately not. I just ran it against the article I'm working on and it didn't really do much.[4] I'm looking for a tool where I can give it a URL and it can create a citation template filling in as many fields (title, publisher, access date, etc.) as possible. For example, something like this. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    For google books you can use just the url with this tool. Not sure about others but check out Wikipedia:Citation tools.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The Departed 2006 film

    The Departed (2006 film)I didn't understand some of the incidents in The Departed Film, so can someone please answer my Questions about The Departed Film?

    1. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, Costello sent his henchmen to the same building.

    2. When Costello sent his henchmen to the same building, did Costello tell his henchmen to kill Queenan?

    3. When Costello sent his henchmen to the same building, did Costello tell his henchmen to kill the Undercover Cop?

    4. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, was Sullivan hoping for Queenan to get killed?

    5. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, was Sullivan hoping for the Undercover Cop to get killed?

    6. When Sullivan killed Costello, did Sullivan decide to be a Good Cop? (76.195.163.217 (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

    Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    As I have told many other people on Wikipedia today, this is definitely not the place to ask such questions. You must search them yourself or, better yet, watch the movie in its entirety to answer your questions. As this may seem as absolutely no help to you, as said above by Fuhghettaboutit/ForgetAboutIt, you may want to try the Humanites desk, or maybe the village pump, or even better, Yahoo! Answers, where this discussion can be off of Wikipedia, because such questions clog the help desks for other Wikipedian users. Please do not take this as an insult, or be discouraged to come back to Wikipedia. Virtually everyone who owns or is in possession of a computer, laptop, or other electronic item that has access to internet (except vandals and those banned from Wikipedia) are free to research, edit, and share Wikipedia among other fellow Wikipedian users, administrators, and bureaucrats. And if you decide to come back, you can create an account, which conceals your IP address, all edits go under your contributions, invitations to Wikievents and Wiknics, and more benefits, etc. Thank you for being part of the Wikipedia community and participating in a help desk discussion. Again, you are free to come back at any time, or better yet, create an account. Thanks again, sorry for any typos! A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 05:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about toolserver.org's webchecklinks

    I ran toolserver.org's webchecklinks against September 11 attacks and it found several URLs that are now dead links.[5] For some of them, it says that "WebCite archive avalible". Does anyone know what "WebCite archive avalible" means? Where can I find this archive? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Sure, it's http://webcitation.org/ In the article look in the references for "Archived from the original on..." (probably easiest to just use ctrl+f and search for "archive") and that will be a link to the WebCite archive.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The dead links I'm looking for don't have "Archived from the original on...". See [this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks#cite_note-11]. References 12-15 are cites to reports issued by the National Transportation Safety Board which apparently are no longer available on their web site. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately, when you paste the urls (I checked 12 & 13) into WebCite's search it says that it was never archived. So I'm not sure what's going on. It may be that the webchecklinks is wrong. Knowing what queries it makes to determine its positive result for archiving would help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    :I've found alternative links. 12 is here ... I see you've already found alternate links.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Case Sensitive search on Wikipedia?

    I'm working to make sure that mentions of fraternities and sororites fulfill WP:NCCORP by deleting the use of INC and incorporated from the mention in other articles. I'm also running into a lot of situations where MOS:CAPS applies because the word fraternity or sorority is capitalized after the name of the fraternity or sorority. I'd like to also look for those separately. Is there any way that I can look for capitalized instances of Fraternity on Wikipedia or "Alpha Phi Omega Fraternity" without "Alpha Phi Omega fraternity"?Naraht (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think this is possible with the MediaWiki software. However, although Google searches are also case insensitive, there is apparently a tool to take Google results and filter it for case (which I've never used). See here. So if this filter works, you can then restrict the results to Wikipedia using a limiter like site:en.wikipedia.org--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, I figured out how to use it. This search appears to provide exactly what you're after. Give it some time as it is much slower than Google itself. Also, it appears that it will only provide the results in snippets of the first forty-nine Google hits it checks, i.e., it filters the first 49 results, gives you an output which may be just a few hits, and then you have to hit "next" to have it filter the next 49 Google hits.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Orphan status

    Can an editor please review and remove the tags to "CSPWC's Royal Collection Project"? There are three articles that link back to this page: 1) The Arts and Letters Club 2) Canadian Society of Painters in Water Colour 3) Royal Librarian. Help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Artisforme (talk) 17:51, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    not really much, he? on the other hand: focussing on other probelms the articles as. mabdul 17:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    eggplants

    Can you safely freeze an eggolant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.248.34.45 (talk) 18:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 18:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    June 27

    Getting new unreviewed articles reviewed

    My first new article, Isaac Wunder order, was put up in mainspace in 17 June. This being my first, I don't know how long it normally takes for a new article to get the eye of a reviewer who can remove the {{Userspace draft}} template, presuming the article is OK. I put a request for feedback. I know it can take a while, but I'm not sure how long such a while should be before I ask again, or if there are other steps I should take. Rhsimard (talk) 00:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    My usual advice is to be patient, there is quite a backlog of new articles for review. – ukexpat (talk) 13:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I just took a quick look at it and made a few minor changes. The list of "See also" links should probably also be pruned to remove links that already appear in the text of the article. It is not clear to me how the external link is relevant. – ukexpat (talk) 13:20, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Sucrose and Diabetes

    I have had Diabetes for many years. I have been using Glyburide l.5mg tab. A fewmonths ago my sugar count began to rise. My doctor changed my Glyburide to 2.5 in early May. Since then my sugar counts has risen on most days to 160 or higher. I also take other prescriptions such as simvitation Lisinpurinal Allopurinal and als Tums.When I checked the Tums for ingredients it had sugar2g. It also had sucrose but did not list it's dosage.I take 2 Tums each morning. Could my taking Tums everyday cause my sugar count to rise. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.174.91.203 (talk) 01:33, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    New Page Deletion - But Information Correct!

    I am not 100% sure why I have received an automated e - mail (RE: Wikipedia page User talk:Whitbycolin has been changed by SunCreator). I have created a page with information about Mary K Roberts, a survivor of the Titanic and also the SS Rohilla. The information is truthful as I have family descendants of Mrs. Roberts who gratefully supplied me with the information.

    I am clearly new to editing documents in a great form and admit that the help pages do not often help. I would like to add a reference link to my Rohilla website but am lost as to how best to do this. Not to be outdone I do hope to learn how best to work within the guidlines.

    Regards

    Colin Brittain


    Dear Whitbycolin,

    The Wikipedia page "User talk:Whitbycolin" has been changed on 24 June 2011 by SunCreator, with the edit summary: Notification: proposed deletion of Mary K. Roberts. (TW)

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Whitbycolin&diff=0&oldid=406534316 for all changes since your last visit. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whitbycolin for the current revision.

    To contact the editor, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SunCreator

    Note that additional changes to the page "User talk:Whitbycolin" will not result in any further notifications, until you have logged in and visited the page.

                Your friendly Wikipedia notification system
    

    -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitbycolin (talkcontribs) 01:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    One of the big issues is that the page is completely unsourced. Remember, wikipedia is based on verifiability, not truth. Add references to the article, then you should be able to remove the PROD tag as it is no longer completely valid. The editor who tagged it also mentioned some notability questions. I do think that the notability issue is controversial enough that it should be addressed at WP:AFD, not as a PROD. For now, your biggest thing to worry about is adding references. Ryan Vesey (talk) 01:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Problems with two links posted on the net by hackers using wikipedia to install spyware and viruses

    Over the last 2 weeks I clicked on two links I thought were directing me to Wikipedia, instead they destroyed 2 of my laptops. I hope there is something you can do about it to block them. Here they are. Thanks in advance for looking into it. AAC.


    List of cities in Malaysia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Kuala Lumpur is by far the largest city as well as the largest metropolitan area in Malaysia. Other major cities with a population of more than 500,000 include Ipoh ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_MalaysiaList of cities and towns in Malaysia by population - Wikipedia ...

    The following is a list of urban areas in Malaysia by population. Only the fifty ... "Malaysia: largest cities and towns and statistics of their population". World Gazetteer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_and_towns_in_Malaysia_by_population — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.191.85 (talk) 01:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    There's nothing wrong with either of those links. Most likely there's some other software on your computers that has redirected you to sites unaffiliated with Wikipedia. You could try checking out Malware or ask for help at the Computing reference desk. Remember to give them plenty of detail. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    On linking to those emails?

    What is our stance on linking to those recently Leaked Emails? Obviously not for any article but in project talks spaces? The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 02:02, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Your question is vague. Various emails leak all the time. Which ones do you refer to, and what projects do you have in mind? If something is not suitable as a reliable source for Wikipedia, how does linking to it from a talk page advance the encyclopedia project? Everything we do here must somehow contribute to building the encyclopedia, even if only indirectly. Also check the Wikipedia:Spam blacklist to see if you are able to link to them - links to some sites are forbidden on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 05:27, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Interwiki Watchlist

    I primarily edit wikipedia; however, I have made a few contributions to other areas in the Wikimedia project. Is it possible to add my talk page on those projects and other pages I am interested in to my watchlist? Ryan Vesey (talk) 02:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Sure, just redirect the page to wikipedia:User talk:Ryan Vesey or en:User talk:Ryan Vesey as a soft redirect. Not sure if possible to do a hard redirect. Any one else aware of a way? Kindly Calmer Waters 03:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I searched and found the page Wikipedia:Integrated, interwiki, global watchlists. I know nothing about this; maybe the page or its talk page will give you something useful. --Teratornis (talk) 05:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Within that link there was another link to a script which allowed me to import my other watchlists, thank you. Ryan Vesey (talk) 08:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Username

    Signature button in edit toolbar

    How do I add username after comment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xzuiko (talkcontribs) 04:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Add this after comments: --~~~~ GroovySandwich 04:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Generally you sign posts on talk pages using ~~~~, as described at Wikipedia:Signatures. That produces your signature and a timestamp. If, for some reason, you want to omit the time stamp, you can sign using ~~~. Remember to only sign in talk pages, not articles. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thankyou :) Xzuiko (talk) 04:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You can also click the signature button in the edit toolbar. See image to the right. Also see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. --Teratornis (talk) 05:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Romagnola

    Hello My Name is Mary Flanigan. I am Secretary/Treasurer to the Romagnola & RomAngus Cattle Association. I did not find the breed Romagnola on your list of beef cattle. The Romagnola is probably the oldest beef cattle in the world. Can you please add to your list. Also need to ad RomAngus Cattle. They are a breed of Angus and Romagnola. Been around for the past 15 years. See our webb site at www.romagnola.org and email me at (Redacted) Thank you Mary Flanigan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.221.114.91 (talk) 04:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I've removed your email address: it's not a good idea to post your email address online, as it may be harvested by spambots. We only reply on this page, anyway.
    Romagnola is already listed in List of cattle breeds, both under the Used for multiple purposes and the Used for beef sections. Under which section should RomAngus be listed?
    Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I see you were most likely referring to the section Beef cattle breeds in the article on Beef cattle. I've added Romagnola per your request. I think RomAngus needs its own article before it is added to Beef cattle breeds. You could list it at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 05:25, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    estate of george harrison (ex beatle)

    A few fays ago I put a question about how to contact the estate of GH and want a reply from someone please. I want to publish a song about him and it includes a quote from one of his songs. Please advise who administers his estate so I may ask them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.136.173 (talk) 04:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Teratornis (talk) 05:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    PLease reply to xxxx re any infor re this question (se e above) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.136.173 (talk) 05:00, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    See the reply to your question at WP:RDE#estate of george harrison. —teb728 t c 05:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    User talk creation

    I just posted a PROD message to an editor's talk page. It was the first edit and therefore created the page. Everything with that went fine but I was surprised to see that a welcome message was appended to my PROD. Does this happen every time a user talk page is created with something other than a welcome message? I've created many user talk pages and this is the first time I've seen this. Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 05:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • Not every time, as it's happened often automatically to me as well. SwisterTwister talk 05:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Twinkle's documentation states, "Twinkle does not give the creator a welcome message, even if their talk page does not exist." I guess it wouldn't say that unless there is some other automated prod notification system that does do so. A bit rough, really, since you've implicitly agreed to respond to any questions the user asks you at your talk page. Maybe just use Twinkle if you don't want this to happen again? Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 05:33, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The template you used adds a welcome message to blank pages unless "nowelcome=yes" is set. See {{proposed deletion notify#New users}} for more info. Tommyjb (talk) 05:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Ref 28 has something wrong with it. Kittybrewster 06:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed, what was wrong is that the "cite news" was repeated twice. SwisterTwister talk 06:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Userspace page in Google search

    I have recently moved a page into the mainspace after working on it in my userspace. The new page shows up nicely in a google search but so does my original userspace page. Is it possible to stop the userspace page showing up? If so could you advise me how please? Also, the subject of the article (a person) has a relatively common name and is listed in the 'other people' section in wikipedia when I search for him. I think he should be listed in the 'music' section of people with the same name and would like to know how I can make that change please? Thanks.--Maggiemorgan1969 (talk) 11:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I have changed the redirect at User:Maggiemorgan1969/David King to a move message. You can request deletion of the page with {{db-u1}} if you want. In either case it will soon disappear from Google search results when they update their index. If you don't want a userspace page to be indexed by search engines even when it has real content then place {{NOINDEX}} on it. David King is a manually edited page. You can click the "Edit" tab and edit it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    embedding a file in an article

    Hello. I'm currently experimenting with the possibility of providing enhanced locational information for readers interested in contemporary naval vessel home port deployments. I've asked in the naval section of the military history wikiproject but seemingly this technical issue is not in their ken. Basically, I'd like to know if it's possible to use the embedded file option in the edit browser bar, or otherwise by some (hopefully user friendly technical means), to 'embed' or otherwise link to a '.kml' (keyhole satellite metadata file) usable in Google Earth to store a list of GE global place-marks related to the vessels being discussed in the article, which might typically be about a class of vessels rather than just a single vessel.

    I appreciate it's possible to use the co-ordinates framework protocol code to make a single place-mark link to the 'Geo Hack' page which then has a further link to GEarth in its links-to table . However, that link I've found is subject to some serious failings (a) if you use the 'open' link some species of a 'preferential' software 'glich' takes over, which instead of taking you to the co-ordinates you've been given, goes instead to the location of the nearest 'existing' Google Maps place mark, which is typically miles away, even though you've just opened GEarth instead, but which in GMaps would then ask you 'did you mean this place instead ?' And (b) if instead you select the 'with meta data' option, a host of embedded additional materials (not however including the view date timeline preference and altitude of viewpoint data which the editor would like the reader to appreciate). Accordingly, it seems to me that the only user friendly option would be to allow the reader to download a keyhole metadata file (from within the article) created bespoke by the editor with just the information on it relevant to the vessels and places dealt with in the article.

    I can't believe but that this kind of issue of the practical linking of wikipedia article information, which has an especial relevance to a physical place or places location(s) on Earth, to an ability to visualise those locations in Google Earth (or possibly some other equally well used application - is there one?)hasn't arisen in many many guises before. I'm hoping therefore that you have a worked out solution ? I promise that I've look for it for hours in editing guideline materials and elsewhere, without success. sorry for rambling. thank you.

    --John Eight Thirty-two (talk) 12:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The editors with the technical ability to respond tend to hang out at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). It sounds intriguing, I hope you will ask the question there.--SPhilbrickT 13:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Sometimes won't form a new line

    Sometimes when editing text, and I start a new line, it doesn't work. Wikipedia does not do the line break, the text is run on into the previous paragraph. My workaround has always been to add an additional blank line. Any guess as to what is going on / what I am doing wrong? Thanks. North8000 (talk) 12:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Your workaround is correct; see Help:Wiki markup#Line breaks. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Linking Spanish and English versions of Wikipedia pages

    Hi there, I am a Spanish and English speaker, and I recently created a Wikipedia Page in Spanish. How do I link it to the English version as well? When I am on the Spanish version, "Other Languages: English", pops up on the left hand tool bar, but when I am on the English version, "Other Languages" (which should now say 'Spanish'), does not come up.

    Does anyone know how to update this? Thanks in advance! http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mautner_Project — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrw22 (talkcontribs) 13:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Feedback needs help

    Some of the regulars who help out at Feedback either aren't active or aren't as active as they have been (that includes me). My unscientific review of the backlog suggests that over half haven't received any response. Anyone willing to help?--SPhilbrickT 13:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]