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Google description of Wikipedia

Hi, where is it possible to change the description of Wikipedia (Main Page in Slovene) offered by Google in the first line under the link? --Eleassar ^{my talk} 15:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

It's chosen by Google and depends on the circumstances. Sometimes they copy it from the Open Directory Project. Which search do you make and what does the resulting description say for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Using the search term "wikipedia" in the main Google query box returns http://www.wikipedia.org/ as the top hit, described as "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceyockey (talk • contribs) 02:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

The source of http://www.wikipedia.org/ says <meta name="description" content="Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." />. http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stran (Main Page in Slovene) has no such tag. Editors cannot set the meta description tag of Wikipedia pages. mw:Extension:ExplicitDescription is not installed. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:35, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Searching for "wikipedia" gives me the link to Slovene Wikipedia as the first choice and describes it as "Wikipedia® is a trademark of the non-profit organization Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Privacy Policy..." Instead, I think it should be emphasised that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 09:00, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Google must give the Slovene Wikipedia as first hit because you have a Slovene IP address or they have registered some connection to Slovenia for you. Do you really get the text as quoted in English? The text has zero Google hits. The English Main Page says "Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization." If I search wikipedia site:sl.wikipedia.org in Google then I get "Wikipedia® je tržna znamka neprofitne organizacije Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Politika zasebnosti ..." This is simply quoting from the first and only occurrence of "Wikipedia" on the Slovene Main Page (Wikipedia is written Wikipediji in Slovene). Quoting the context of the search term is normal behaviour for Google and other search engines. I don't think we should worry about Google search blurbs except when they still show serious vandalism. In such cases Google can be asked to reindex the page quickly. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:00, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

You're right about the Slovene IP address. The text I've provided is the English translation of the Slovene text that you have written. I think a more informative excerpt would be better. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 12:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

We don't control Google. Their excerpt will often depend on the search term. It makes sense that they quote the context of the search term. As mentioned, some Google descriptions are copied from the Open Directory Project. You could attempt to submit the Slovene Wikipedia at their Slovene directory http://www.dmoz.org/World/Slovensko/. If a submission is accepted then Google may or may not use the submitted description for some searches at a later time. I wouldn't worry about a Google excerpt unless it's directly harmful. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

This, then, is a request for Meta, or Bugzilla. Rich Farmbrough, 17:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC).

Wrong email confirmation link on secure server

Resolved

 – Bug fixed. —mc10 (t/c) 00:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I found a bug while examining Wikipedia:Help desk#Generated confirm email link appears to be broken (404 - File Not Found). The secure server currently sends out email confirmation links starting with http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail. This looks like a hodgepodge of a normal and secure link, and it gives a 404 error. It should be either http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail or https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail. Can somebody fix it or report it in a better place? Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I have submitted it as bugzilla:30647. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

The bug has been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Skin

Can somebody tell me on monobook how to change the background colour of the skin from grey white streaky to dark blue and the side text white? I just want the frame of the page to be much darker, the top strip and the side panel. When I change the background colour in my browser it paints the whole page that colour. I want to retain the white page but with a dark background to make it stand out Does somebody have any coding to do this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:53, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

You can edit your monobook.css page, and add CSS rules there. I'm not sure what you mean by "side text white", but to change your background color, something like the following should work:

body {
    background: #00008B; /* Or a similar color */
}

Hope that works. —mc10 (t/c) 01:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I mean if you have a dark border you will need white text so you can read it in contrast..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Please increase width of header boxes

This page has a header box 'Template:Village pump pages'. It extends almost all the way from left to right. Lots of other pages e.g. Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style have headers with blank space at left and right so the headers consume vertical space. These boxes seem to grow like coral in a variety of forms as well-intentioned editors in many different talk pages add extra messages. One simple improvement would be to increase the width to reduce the length (so they match 'Template:Village pump pages'). I don't know where to start. Can somebody help? Lightmouse (talk) 10:43, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree. When the content of that header is getting big, it should not act as an "tmbox" any more. It should use (near) 100% width. The width for your example page is set, for similar talkpage headers, by style="width: 80%; in the {{Talk_header}}. An editprotect will be needed there. -DePiep (talk) 11:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Many pages use several headers so it's worth thinking about how this would be rolled out. An individual request on a 'per header' basis leads to understandable responses like: Template_talk:Talk_header#Edit_request_from_Lightmouse.2C_31_August_2011. The coordination and justification is more than I can solve by myself. Lightmouse (talk) 11:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, so you were there already :-). I'd say: just copy your request into a new "proposal" section overthere. Might propose "width should stay 80% by default, but have the option to set to other an percentage like 100%". → style="width: {{{width|80%}}};. (or, it could be constructed a switch between just two options: 80% or 100% only). -DePiep (talk) 11:34, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. I didn't realise that was the key page, I just see a whole mishmash of multiple wordy headers in many pages. See Proposal: option for maximum width. Anyone reading this, feel free to add further comments over there. Thanks. Lightmouse (talk) 11:46, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

That didn't work. Any other suggestions? Lightmouse (talk) 11:58, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

That didn't work mostly because that was the wrong place to have it. {{Talk header}} uses one of those "class=mbox" thing, and the proper place to discuss this would be in the css central, or whatever it is. Because this would affect all wikiproject banners, talk page history templates, etc.... Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 18:30, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

No, "that din't work" was about one single objection (and an undecisive one at that). Of course, {{Talk header}} is the place where it is set, so where it is to be discussed. But alas, Headbomb, it will bog down somewhere somehow. What was the time you reached a change of habit here? It's all grey bearded admins. -DePiep (talk) 23:11, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

• Try to remove many and widen most-common boxes: There are so many boxes, the solutions must be geared to those boxes which are seen most often (optimize by 80/20 Rule): fix the "20%" of banners seen in 80% of articles. There are several methods:

• Collapse/hide numerous talk-page banners.
• Join WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September 2011 - to remove copy-edit banners in 500 active articles (every 2 months)
• Edit Template:Multiple issues to widen that banner (used in over 36,000 pages)
• Join efforts to suppress maintenance-banners and merely list the page in a category.
• Start a "Bannerholics Anonymous" to get people to stop vanity-tagging numerous pages with grandstanding banners.

Those are several ways to improve thousands of pages within a few months. This is an important issue because many users view WP pages in narrowed windows, set to mimic A4 paper or 8.5x11 upright pages, where most banners are narrow and force the page taller. Many minor banners remain in pages for over 2 years. -Wikid77 20:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Decisive talk now is at Template_talk:Talk_header#Proposal:_option_for_maximum_width. Not here. -DePiep (talk) 21:00, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikid77 makes very good points. Another simple solution has just occured to me:

• Create wide templates that duplicate narrow templates e.g. at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (using 'Template:Village pump pages' for design inspiration).

That can be done without admin involvement. We only need local agreement to swap the narrow template for the wide one. Lightmouse (talk) 11:35, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

That would be a bad idea. We tried for years to get the templates unified and consistent, because it was a frenzy of colors and forms. Separating it all in a 'local' page by page fashion would undue that work and would increase the clutter again. Just get consensus and any admin will change whatever the consensus wants changed. And don't insinuate that admins are a bunch of 'lazy, non-complying, old farts'. Admins are admins because of their experience and the trust they have within the community. BTW, we really could use a few more tech admins, the pool is starting to drain. If you know good candidates, please nominate them. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:40, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

TheDJ: don't insinuate that admins are .... You're right, TheDJ. Now who did so, and where? -DePiep (talk) 20:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not aware of anyone that suggested admins are 'lazy, non-complying, old farts'. This discussion isn't about judging anyone. It's merely about trying to get an edit to a protected template simply to eliminate wasted blank horizontal space and regain valuable vertical space. Lightmouse (talk) 13:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

This was first raised at MoS talk, where I saw it, and where there was a huge yellow mass of boxes at the top—some of them, in my view, redundant. The "skip to ToC" button is fine, but isn't a full solution. So yes, I agree that anything that can be done to reduce the vertical stretch of these boxes should be considered. Tony (talk) 13:15, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Who is watching?

Is there a "Who is watching this page?" tool? JohnCD (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

No, because that would violate the privacy of watchlists, but there is a "how many people are watching this page?" tool. –xeno^talk 20:37, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that's good enough. JohnCD (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

It has a bottom of "<30" over concerns that vandals might use it to target unwatched pages, I believe. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 23:05, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, unless your name is on this list. Graham87 01:01, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Consequence on the servers of a change in the noinclude section of a template

Hi everybody. I have a very technical question for you.

Suppose I have a template used in one million pages (on French Wiktionary it's not theoritical, there is at least one template which is on every single page in main namespace).

1. If I add a block <noinclude>foo</noinclude> without modifing anything else, will the cache servers understand that nothing has changed, or will they put one million pages into the job queue?
2. If I change anything between already existing <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags, same question.

Hoping you'll help me to understand all that, regards. --GaAs (d) 19:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I think they'll understand in both cases that the job queue doesn't need to be updated, and I'm more confident for the second question, but I'm not quite sure. If that's not so, it's a bug in MediaWiki. Ucucha (talk) 23:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

How sure are you? I'm very sure that as of at least a couple years ago either operation would invalidate all the pages that the template was transcluded on. As to the underlying question, if this is something you only need to do rarely, then don't worry about it. Invalidating a million pages isn't going to destroy the servers, and actually isn't that big a deal. (Though, there is a good chance you could get a timeout error when you save the update to a very widely transcluded template. Such errors occur when the updating process is temporarily overwhelmed but have no real long-term consequences.) Dragons flight (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Why does it matter? Happy‑melon 10:47, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

usernames

I've been attempting to create an account here but have been thwarted by the lack of any clear guidelines on usernames. Existing users seem to have a wide variety of creative names, but my ASCII-only attempts result in "You have not specified a valid user name", without any indication of what is wrong. 111.233.10.80 (talk) 10:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

The software allows the full Unicode character set to be used, so that editors from Russia or Japan, say, can choose names in their own language. However, a few characters are not allowed, because they would cause problems when pages are displayed. According to this page, the following characters are not allowed: # < > [ ] | { } and _. Are you being mislead by the decorative signatures that some editors use? For example, there's a user here named "Orangemike" who signs as <font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>. The font tag is part of his signature, not part of his username. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm not sure - perhaps the username is already in use? If you have difficulty you can try the Wikipedia:Request an account process instead. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't see where in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Forbidden characters it specifies that underscores are disallowed, nor where it says that any of these guidelines apply to usernames. And I have no idea how I was expected to find this information. I imagine other potential users would find it helpful if this were incorporated into the signup page in some way. Nonetheless thank you for letting me know what the problem was. = ) 111.233.10.80 (talk) 12:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

It was removed as part of the outreach:Account Creation Improvement Project. Apparently people hate reading instructions which is fine if they'd improve the error messages. — Dispenser 12:57, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Spaces, underlines and non-breaking spaces are treated equivalently in page names (black hole, black_hole and black hole being the same article); that ought to apply to user names too (or underlines forbidden altogether) otherwise in principle two users could find themselves sharing a user page. I'll try to log in using underlines instead of spaces in my user name, now...
― A. di M.​_plé​^dréachtaí 19:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

It works!
― A. di M.​_plé​^dréachtaí 19:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Just for the notice: two underscores/whitespaces (so Black__Hole) are technically forbidden... mabdul 05:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Symbols in html links changed when typing "wikipedia" instead of "wikimedia"

This may be hard to explain, so I'll do my best. At WP:BN#Inactive administrator? (revision link), Xeno posted a link to Meta that confirms the desysopping of an administrator. But clicking Xeno's link in question on the "normal" Wikipedia server showed an irrelevant log entry; the "Title" box was, strangely enough, empty but was written in the initial link. After comparing the incorrect link to the correct one, I noticed that there may be a bug in how the MediaWiki software handles incorrectly written links. Xeno's initial link is meta.wikipedia.org instead of meta.wikimedia.org. The MediaWiki software correctly redirects to wikimedia, but also incorrectly changes the html code for @ (%40) to %2540, making the "Title" box empty. If you write http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User:Freakofnurture%40enwiki&limit=1&offset=201108 it works fine. I then found out that the MediaWiki software adds "25" before whatever number you write after "%". Is there an explanation for this behavior? HeyMid (contribs) 13:51, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

FYI the meta.wikipedia link seems to have arisen because I used user:js/urldecoder.js to rewrite the secure link. Will advise script owner. –xeno^talk 14:09, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

The user:js/urldecoder.js issue explains why Xeno's link had a "p" instead of "m", but it does not explain why the MediaWiki software adds "25" after the "%" part of the link. HeyMid (contribs) 14:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Interestingly, the links works fine on the secure server. There is a double encoding issue going on somewhere (%25 is the url encoding for %); arguably the reason for the error is that Xeno should have written "Freakofnurture@enwiki" in the link instead of "Freakofnurture%40enwiki". Ucucha (talk) 15:41, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I guess the reason why the link works fine on the secure server is because the software correctly translates the link into secure server format. Also, the theory probably is that the software doesn't think the "40" part is related to "%" when incorrectly typing .wikipedia instead of .wikimedia, and the software instead handles the % and 40 parts seperately when auto-correcting the link; this means using the actual symbols work, and explains why Firefox doesn't note the "25" part when hovering over the link. But this issue isn't isolated to the MediaWiki software, I guess; for example, wikEd does the same thing. I guess that making the URL encoders start ignoring the "%" symbol (i.e. don't see it as a separate part of the URL) is the solution to the problem. HeyMid (contribs) 15:55, 2 September 2011 (UTC) Modified 17:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

No, that is not the solution. That is a workaround :D The solution is that the systems that each do an encode need to be identified so that it can be judged if one of the systems is simply acting incorrectly, or that this problem is simply unavoidable. So when we look at the data, we see:

Request URL:http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User:Freakofnurture%40enwiki&limit=1&offset=201108
Status Code:301 Moved Permanently
Response Headers
Location:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User:Freakofnurture%2540enwiki&limit=1&offset=201108

So the URL redirect is the first location of the problem. I think the %40 in the original url is proper, so that means the redirector is doing something wrong. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:59, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree with TheDJ: if server tries to correct meta.wikipedia into meta.wikimedia it has do it correctly. P.S. urlDecoder script is already fixed. — AlexSm 16:40, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

URL problem

Hi,

At the Entertainment Reference Desk today, I tried linking a Google URL, but Wikipedia seems to stop considering the text string a URL after the first question mark. Is there a fix?

Comet Tuttle (talk) 21:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

It's the quotes that are breaking the URL. Fixed. If you copy the URL from your browser then paste it it should show the URL with the proper code rather than using quotes. Gary King (talk · scripts) 21:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Bug on Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

In ==Bilbiolography==, the second entry has the wall street journal broken up. This is probably a bug that needs to be reported to bugzilla.Curb Chain (talk) 02:25, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it. Do you mean it's breaking onto a second line? --Elen of the Roads (talk) 02:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Known issue with reference lists generated by {{reflist}} causing widows and orphans. There are some CSS selectors that will fix this, but they aren't supported by browsers yet. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 03:27, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Help needed with regular expressions

I use NoScript, and some toolserv scripts, like this one and a bunch of others trigger the XSS protection. The help page is written in what to me is high CS geek. The console contains code like ^https?://([a-z]+)\.google\.(?:[a-z]{1,3}\.)?[a-z]+/(?:search|custom|\1)\? ^https?://([a-z]*)\.?search\.yahoo\.com/search(?:\?|/\1\b) ^https?://[a-z]+\.wikipedia\.org/wiki/[^"<>\?%]+$ ^https?://translate\.google\.com/translate_t[^"'<>\?%]+$ ^https://secure\.wikimedia\.org/wikipedia/[a-z]+/wiki/[^"<>\?%]+$ I don't really understand it :( I tried adding the following to the NS XSS console ^https:?//toolserver\.org/[^"<>\?%]+$ but it doesn't seem to do the trick :( Can somebody suggest what I need to add to it to let all toolserv scripts work without the annoying reload? Thanks! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 04:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Looks like the first question mark in your regex is in the wrong place; it should be after the s and not after the colon. Ucucha (talk) 05:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Updated, but the console is still not treating toolserv as a whitelisted site. Why the %#% did they cram all those parameters in? How can I tell it to allow everything from toolserv.org? Sigh. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

tools:~dispenser/view/Help#NoScript's Anti-XSS protection — Hope that helps. — Dispenser 11:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems to have fixed the issue! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

faster alternative to mwdumper

I am looking for a faster alternative to using mwdumper for importing mediawiki xml dumps or simply something faster than opening the mwdumper.jar file and importing one at a time. I had used wget to download the xmls one by one for large articles and there are a few hundreds that I need to import.

the command java -jar mwdumper.jar --format=sql:1.5 page1.xml | mysql -u username -d databasename does not seem to be working on Windows command line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwJ (talk • contribs) 05:00, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

The documentation assumes you are using a command line and/or operating system that's actually useful, like bash on Linux. There are various ways you can install bash on Windows, such as via Cygwin. Shell scripts can help you with the downloading and parsing without human intervention, Google for tutorials. MER-C 12:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Why is this article still displaying as a GA?

Someone started the talk page of The Corre (professional wrestling) with an assessment of GA. At the time, it was completely unreferenced, let alone the possibility of its having passed a GAN. I removed the assessment, and the next day reassessed it as start class. The article itself has been heavily edited in the meantime as well. Despite all this, the article still loads saying it is a "good article" and (since I use that gadget) displaying with a green title. Why is this, and how can we fix it? LadyofShalott 11:32, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

It's just the result that is locally cached in your browser. It shows up just fine for me. The caching makes the gadget less resource intense (because basically it is causing you to open two pages every time you visit an article). —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I cleared my cache, and that did resolve it. Thanks! LadyofShalott 12:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Cannot preview changes on pages before saving

Ever since I've bought, my computer I have had this problem. I makes changes in an article, then press the "Show Button" to get a preview of my work before saving it. But when I do, I get the infamous "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message which offers to diagnose connection problems, which of course never solve anything. I also get this same message if I press the "Save page" button instead of the "Show preview" button, but at least my edits get saved. I suspect the AVG Firewall could be a problem but I'm not sure. I used Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 9. Farine (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Though not speaking for Wikipedia, I offer the following observations —

• I too get frequent time-outs when previewing or saving edits. My connection is pretty good, so I suspect that Wikipedia servers are sometimes just overloaded.

• If it takes more than a couple of minutes for you to compose your message, consider using a text editor (notepad) on your PC to write your message before cutting and pasting it into the Wikipedia edit window. That way the edit window isn't open for too long, and less likely to cause a timeout.

• If your connection is slow/remote (Wikipedia is served from Florida, USA), network latency may be an issue.

• While Internet Explorer is a standard browser, try Google Chrome or Firefox as an alternative. They're both free. Whatever else can be said about IE, it has always (in all versions) suffered from Microsoft's insistence not to fully support W3C standards for displaying web pages, relying instead on Microsoft's own implementation or proprietary alternatives.

• If you can see the edit page, and other Wikipedia pages, at all, it's unlikely that a firewall is blocking you, but that depends entirely on your firewall configuration.

Hopefully one or more of these suggestions might help. Regards, Peter S Strempel | Talk 00:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually the problem is within Explorer 9. I downloaded Firefox and I don't have any problems anymore. I do continue to use Explorer outside of Wikipedia. Thanks for your help anyway. Farine (talk) 05:17, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

copy of Template:ARSHa

Can someone with admin powers temporarily undelete this page for me? I just need to see the coding. thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ARSHa&action=edit&redlink=1

Okip 22:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Sure. :) It's at User:Okip/ARSHA. When you're finished with it, you can just retag it. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Soxred's rangecontribs tool

Soxred's rangecontribs tool is not working for me. I am getting a blank page in Firefox and a HTTP 500 error in IE. Is there any alternative rangecontribs tool available?--Sodabottle (talk) 06:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

The tool has been down for a few days now, and has been reported here. I do not believe there are any other similar tools. Sorry. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 01:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

There is a gadget in preferences. Plus I have a userscript that supports more ranges than the gadget; I can publish it if anybody wants. — AlexSm 04:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Alex. Yes, could you please publish the userscript? I know there are a few people here and at X!'s talk page that would appreciate your script. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 04:05, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Watchlist key generator suggestion

I've discovered that watchlist keys can include non-hex characters, and can be a lot longer than the default length. Is there a reason that the key generator uses only hex characters and relatively short keys? If there's no good reason, I suggest that the key generator be adapted to take advantage of this ability for stronger security. Pine^talk 08:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

IIRC, the preload is a random number run through an MD5 hash a few times, hence the size and syntax. Happy‑melon 10:52, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

How random is the random number? If it comes from a PRNG seeded with the time the page was generated... OK, I'll shut up now (not that I would consider it such a tragedy if someone stole my watchlist token).
― A. di M.​_plé​^dréachtaí 19:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

For some users, watchlist privacy is a big deal. I'm not one of them but given the choice to make watchlist security better, I think that it should be done. How would I submit this to developers as a suggestion? Pine^talk 21:06, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

If your watchlist privacy is a big deal for you, you should choose your own watchlist token, not one generated for you. But if you want to suggest something to the developers, you can do so on Bugzilla. User<Svick>.Talk(); 21:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Aligning Route Diagram Templates horizontally

Per discussion I have created a series of historical route diagram templates for the MBTA Orange Line. You can view them here. The original plan was to align all 5 horizontally to make the changes easier to follow. However, I am unable to find a way to do so. Simply listing them stacks them vertically; putting them in a table breaks the RDT formatting. I don't have the html/css skills to craft my own solution. Help! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 13:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Add unwatch link to each link on watch page

This would be handy. Essentially turn (diff | hist) into (diff | hist | unwatch) by each item on your watchlist, so when something pops up there and it occurs to you that you don't really care about it any more you can banish it in one click... Egg Centric 15:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

This one or this one do something similar, and there are some links there to similar things. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:50, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Gadget troubles

I've been using the gadget that adds to dropdown boxes with default edit summaries, but the minor summaries add the text "Common edit summaries - click to use" instead of the edit summary picked. Is it possible for someone to fix this? --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 16:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

My talk page got corrupted

I have no idea how, but during the night, User talk:Piotrus turned into half-gibberish. What's weird is that it seems to affect all past revisions I can see, even through I know they are good, so I cannot simply revert. I tried editing past versions, they show gibberish. I tried different browsers, same problem. What gives? Is it some widespread problem, or is it a localized failure? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:50, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I think the behaviour of something in User:Piotrus/Talkheader has changed. To find out what, you might need to copy it over and preview without one or more elements. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I think this is more widespread, at least for me. I tried editing an article (Virtuti Militari), and the edit window shows the garbled text (this time I was able to self-revert). However, editing as an anon seems to have fixed the problem. This suggests a problem with my account, but not the page. I guess I'll go off to investigate my monobook, scripts and such. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the problem must be on your end. Did you install any new scripts, browser plugins, etc. recently? Does the problem appear on all pages you edit while logged in? Ucucha (talk) 17:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

And I've tracked the problem to User:Cacycle/wikEd. Disabling it stopped pages from getting corrupted. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Creating pages with preloaded content

Hi. I asked this at the Help desk yesterday but have gotten no response, so I thought I would ask here. If I need to ask somewhere else, please direct me.

I would like to be able to create a page from a redlink with preloaded content. this section on WP:RFA does it with an input box using the |preload=page parameter, but I would like to do it with a redlink. There are redlinks in Template:NRHP Article Archive and Template:NRHP Picture Archive that users click on to archive new pictures/articles every month. Each month's archive has the same basic formatting: archive header at the top, followed by a search box, followed by a link to the opposite archive (i.e. picture archives link to article archives and vice versa), then an h2 heading, followed by the list. I've successfully moved a lot of this into the two templates above, but when a user clicks on the redlinks, I would like for the resultant pages to preload the template call, as well as the month/year heading seen on all the archive pages in the above templates. Specifically, I would like the new pages to be preloaded with the following content:

Article archives

{{NRHP Article Archive}}

== {{subst:SUBPAGENAME}} ==

Picture archives

{{NRHP Picture Archive}}

== {{subst:SUBPAGENAME}} ==

Does anyone know how to accomplish this? Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

You could use an ifexist: statement such that when the page does not exist, a preload link (coloured red) is included instead of the link to the non-existent page.

{{#ifexist:Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles/September 2011|[[Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles/September 2011|September]]|[preload-hyperlink <font color="red">September</font>]}}

Then they can click the red month (use the correct web colour, not just "red" ;>), and once the page is created, it will instead display the link. –xeno^talk 16:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Building on what xeno said, you can do something like this: {{#ifexist: <article>||<span style="font-color: red;">[{{fullurl:<article>|action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template:NRHP_Article_Archive/preload}} <article>]</span>}}, where Template:NRHP Article Archive/preload contains the preloaded text. Ucucha (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget what to do when page exists (i.e. show the bluelink) in between the || there =) –xeno^talk 17:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Doing nothing is a legitimate option. :) Ucucha (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, guys (Sorry for the late response.. I forgot to watch this page.) I tried the #fullurl suggestion(s) above, but the span with font-color is overridden by the CSS for external links, and the link turns blue with the arrow sign: September (never mind that I haven't created the subpage.. that won't change the link). I tried several methods to override that CSS... class="plainlinks" gets rid of the arrow, but I couldn't figure out how to color the link red. Any ideas?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Try this:

{{#ifexist: Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011 | [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011|September]] | <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011|action=edit&preload=Template:NRHP_Article_Archive/preload}} <font color="#BA0000">September</font>]</span> }}

and don't forget to create the subpage Template:NRHP Article Archive/preload. Goodvac (talk) 02:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't think about using a font/span tag inside the link.. brilliant! I was actually doing some searching around after you suggested this and found Template:Preload. I've now modified it to be able to handle a link color, and I've made use of it in {{NRHP Article Archive}}. Now on to the picture archive! Thanks for all the help!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 03:17, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

How to add extra buttons to the toolbar (for common use templates)

There are some templates I use very frequently (welcome, for example). I'd like to be able to add them with one click. Is there any script/feature that would allow me to tie buttons (tabs, whatsnot) into templates I'd define? I asked for this feature to be added to wikEd but since I got no reply there for weeks, I need to search elsewhere. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, see my monobook for 'extraeditbuttons'. –xeno^talk 17:45, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

User:MarkS/extraeditbuttons.js? I thought those died years ago, I was using them before they were obsolete by the some MediaWiki updates. I even suggested it here a while ago that somebody should take it over, but nobody did. Hmm, let's see if it works now... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, the extraeditbuttons seem as dead as I remember. I added them to my vector skin, but I still see the unchanged edit toolbar. I tried disabling the editing toolbar in the preferences, but that did nothing. And Xeno, looking at your monobook, I see you've imported the script but are not doing anything with it? I think one needs (needed) to play with those settings to see changes. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I currently have two custom buttons, one that says *{{notdone}} ~~~~ and another that says *{{done}} ~~~~. –xeno^talk 03:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I tried adding your version of the script to mine ([1]) but no effect. I wonder why? Could it be that it doesn't work under vector? Has anybody got it working on vector? Is it conflicting with some other script or setting? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Did you refresh your cache? I don't know if it will work in vector. –xeno^talk 17:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't the edit conflict blocker work with the undo feature?

Look at this pair of edits: [2][3]. I had seen the diff of the edit by Loupatriz67, clicked on the “undo” link, found a compromise wording, typed an edit summary, and saved the page, and it all went smoothly; I didn't notice the intervening edit by Headbomb until much later. How comes I wasn't warned about the edit conflict?
― A. di M.​_plé​^dréachtaí 19:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Data running together when in edit mode

I don't now if I am the only one having this problem but ever since I logged in this morning when I try and edit an article the text is all run together. Normally it would show bullets like this:

• Example 1
• Example 2
• Example 3

But today its like this: *Example 1*Example 2*Example 3. Its really infuriating. --Kumioko (talk) 23:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

This is a bug in WP:WIKED that has already been fixed. Bypassing your cache should remove the problem. Ucucha (talk) 23:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I've already tried that but it didn't work. Any other ideas? --Kumioko (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I suppose something else could have produced the exact same bug at the same time, but that would be quite unlikely. Perhaps you need some more aggressive cache-emptying, or you're using some wrong version of wikEd. Ucucha (talk) 00:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I figured it out. Its working now. I uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled it and now its working. Thanks for the help. --Kumioko (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#Overlap

Would an editor be able to help at Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#Overlap (permanent link)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Own subpage created too quickly: how can it be discarded / deleted

Hello to the administrator or user who would like to help a lost ± newbie!

I am sorry if here is the wrong place to ask this, but I didn't find a Wikipedia page that is exactly adequate to deal with this problem:
I thought I was on Wiktionary, and I was surprised not to find the Russian word язык (language). I was ready then to create the article, as the message proposed it. Then I clicked too swiftly on a very practical link (when needed), but it was too late when I realized that 'Язык' had a capital, which may not be done on Wiktionary (except when you create an article about a proper name or an acronym). This 'user subpage' has the following url: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Air_Miss/%D0%AF%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA&action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft

Could any wizard help me, simply deleting this user subpage I don't need? I will send this wizard a friendly kiss through the air for helping! --Air Miss ^Ѡ 09:46, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Air Miss/Язык does not exist; it hasn't been saved. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Right. Perhaps you were confused by seeing prefilled content in the edit box for your url http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Air_Miss/%D0%AF%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA&action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft. This content is loaded from Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton by preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton in the url. You didn't click Save page so nothing was saved. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

But should you need it in the future, try Wikipedia:Speedy#User pages - X201 (talk) 12:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Huggle error

My Huggle script has noticed me twice times today, that “an error occurred and needs to close”. What could possibly cause this error? Alex ^{discussion ★} 17:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Typically this page is used for discussion of bugs in Wikipedia. I think you should report this at WT:HG, which might get more Huggle developers to see it. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - review} 18:05, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Gadget not working

I've noticed yesterday and today that the "Improved diff view" gadget (listed under Preferences, Gadgets, Editing, and described as part of wikEd) is not working for me. I use Firefox 6.0.1. When I click on the green icon below the default diff display, nothing happens. Any help? --Tryptofish (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

It has already been reported at User talk:Cacycle/wikEd#Error message about local diff script. Further discussion belongs there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

As reported there, the issue has now been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Template:User Wikipedian for

I just noticed on my user page the text in this template misses a space. It reads "This user has been on Wikipedia for 9 yearsand 12 days." I have no idea how to fix this. Besides, the template appears to be full-protected. Anyone know what's wrong with it?--Atlan (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I messed it up. It's now been fixed (I hope). Ucucha (talk) 23:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

That did the trick, thanks.--Atlan (talk) 23:36, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Abuse filter doesn't include ebay listings?

Call me crazy but I can't see any reason not to automatically reject edits like this. Equazcion ^(talk) 01:04, 6 Sep 2011 (UTC)

The spam blacklist can prevent such edits. MER-C 10:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Substitution problem

I created a template, User:UcuchaBot/FAS line, that is intended to be used substituted on WP:FAS; all templates and magic words called should also be substituted. However, substituting currently doesn't work, in that #expr throws an error in the fourth cell. See this example:

|- |Aug 2011 | 3730 | 6478 | % | 32 | 4 | style="background: #FFE3E3; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="table-no2" |28 | 43 | 105

Does anyone know whether there is a way of using subst: or perhaps safesubst: that fixes this? Ucucha (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

The problem may be that {{subst:FA number}} does not produce a number but a formatnum which evaluates to a number. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think you need another (includeonly'ed) "subst:" (or maybe more) for inside {{FA number}}.--Kotniski (talk) 11:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Or no. When deleting the subst: from that cell the error cell #7, the problem stays. I don't know the calling template. The cell is constructing a template with params. I'd try:

• Check value of incoming params FAs promoted, FAs demoted. (is there a value at all, and is it numeric?) If logic allows, write {{{FAs promoted|0}}}-{{{FAs demoted|0}}}.
• Check whether incoming templateused is OK (a template name)
• Replace the template pipe with {{!}}

-DePiep (talk) 11:24, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

You seem to be looking at the seventh cell. I was talking about the fourth cell.--Kotniski (talk) 11:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

You are right. I moved my eyes because #4 looks OK now, and now #7 gives the #expr:-error. Which problem are we to solve now? -DePiep (talk)

Seems #4 looks OK on the template page itself, but not when the template is substituted - hopefully the addition of subst:'s inside {{FA number}} will fix it. As to #7, it generates an error on the template page, but possibly might work on substitution, provided the right parameters are fed in (though I'm somewhat sceptical...) --Kotniski (talk) 11:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

(ec) #7 gives an error in the template version only, which I don't care about. #4 is the important one, since it gives an error when the template is substituted (its intended use). I think PrimeHunter and Kotniski are right about the underlying problem, so I'll add some subst:-ing capabilities to FA number. Thanks all for the help. Ucucha (talk) 11:43, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Right. I'm off for a cup of tea then. -DePiep (talk) 12:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit box citation feature

Resolved

How it will appear to you will depend on the skin you're using and possibly any user-scripts you've added, but in File:EditBox.jpg the top row has a "Cite" toggle. As you can see, it's been activated, so the line below includes a "templates" drop-down. If you select that, you get a list of templates, and selecting one of those gives you a dialogue box to complete.

What is this set of features called, and where do we go, to propose changes to it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 09:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

This is WP:RefToolbar. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

So it is. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 11:07, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Broken thumbnail

Hi! I've uploaded a picture of my own work at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg#file, however the thumbnail appears to be broken. If you click on the broken thumbnail the image loads correctly. Not sure if it's something I've done wrong (most likely!) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ilovebaddies (talk) 17:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Weird. Maybe the percentage symbol in the name is causing problems? I don't feel like there'd be anything in the image itself that is causing problems. Gary King (talk · scripts) 21:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

When I go the thumbnail's URL (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg/800px-Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg), I get the following error: "Error generating thumbnail Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/mnt/thumbs/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Cyclopentolate_1%%_Pupils.jpg/800px-Cyclopentolate_1%%_Pupils.jpg': @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2498." Notice the double % in that path; I think the percentage sign may indeed be the culprit. Ucucha (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, that'll do it. I've moved the file and spelled out "percent", and that took care of it. ^Avic_ennasis @ 21:38, 7 Elul 5771 / 21:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

bugzilla:30789. Ucucha (talk) 22:37, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Statistics progrma not updated

I'm not sure why but it seems like the Article statistics program isn't displaying the updated data from Sept 1 forward. The developer of the app (Henrik) Hasn't made an edit since March 2011 so I thought I would leave it here instead. Here is a link to the tool with an example. --Kumioko (talk) 18:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Weirdly, http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/United_States does not show past the 1st, but http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/United_States shows right up through today's. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed also the stats have stopped for a while. Henrik may not have contributed as a user since March, but he or somebody is reading his email. Usually, if somebody emails Henrik, he gets it fixed. --Maile66 (talk) 23:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks Ill send him something today. --Kumioko (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be updating again, but I see there are some discrepancies between United States (201109) and United States (latest): the "latest" figures are all one day ahead of the "201109" figures. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

How did italics show up in the article title?

The article is New York City Serenade (film). But I was the only contributor until a bot came along to mark it uncategorized. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I didn't put the italics in the title.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Those are produced by {{Infobox film}} using {{Italic title}}. Ucucha (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Non-existent image appears at Mayawati

Can anyone explain how does this non-existent image appear at the Mayawati article? Much obliged. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 00:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

The link was in the infobox ... I've removed it.Tagishsimon (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC) --

I know where the filename was. But how can a non-existent filename render in an infobox? Am I missing something here? In other words, what server is this phantom image located in and how was it retrieved by the infobox? Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 00:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

No image appeared when I viewed the article. Are you saying that an image rendered, or a filename rendered? If the former, maybe something in your browser's cache? If the latter, that's what happens when you specify a filename fora non-existent file. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

It was an actual image. Not a filename. Removing redlinked filenames from infoboxes is easy. Mayawati appeared in a political poster. I don't recall seeing this image before but maybe you are right and it was my browser's cache. I'll clear it and then try to see if it renders in the old revision, before you removed the filename. Thank you. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 00:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

The file was recently (within a few hours) deleted from commons, see [4] ΔT _{^{The only constant}} 00:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Δ. It now appears as a redlink. It no longer renders as an actual pic, even though I did not clear my browser's cache. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 00:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for protection

Hi! I didn't know where to ask this, but could someone put protection from IP for this article - Kārlis Skrastiņš - and maybe other Lokomotiv players too? Source. They maybe aren't death so it could be good to make a protection. Thanks.--Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 13:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I semi-protected it. In the future you should ask for protection on WP:RFPP. Ruslik_Zero 14:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanhs!--Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 14:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Disabling rollback button on watchlist

I've had numerous instances where I accidentally clicked the rollback button on my watchlist. It's particularly obnoxious when I sign in to check my watchlist on my smartphone. Is there currently a tool to disable it? Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

.page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none} in Special:MyPage/vector.css will do the trick. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

special:mypage/skin.css for non-vectorites. –xeno^talk 22:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I couldn't remember the theme-independent name. Thanks. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:26, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Is there a way to trigger that in JavaScript? I'm thinking of only disabling it on my phone, and I'll need a JavaScript call to ascertain my browser version. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Possibly you'll be able to do that with CSS alone, because MediaWiki associates some classes with the html element based on the client. Something like

.client-phone .page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none}

, where ".client-phone" is the class that your phone gets, and which you should be able to find in the HTML source. Ucucha (talk) 01:53, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Finding Empty categories

Is there an easy want to take a parent category and check for empty sub-categories recursively? ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:32, 8 Elul 5771 / 23:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)N

Maybe you are looking for something simpler, but if you click on all the little + signs next to the subcategory names, it will show the number of pages and categories within each next level subcategory. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm looking for something more automated. For something like Category:Stub categories, I can't imagine clicking through 10k+ sub-categories that way. :-) ^Avic_ennasis @ 01:31, 9 Elul 5771 /

You could ask someone like MZMcBride to do a database report for you. However, I suggest you look at Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories, noting the excluded phrases listed at the top: from today's report, I see only one empty stub category (Category:Uruguayan football defender stubs) and one empty stub-related category (Category:Uncategorized stubs from August 2011). — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:17, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

That's nifty, and useful. I've requested this report on Commons. Now, are there any tools that can sort subcats by number of pages in them? kinda like this, but with less manual labor on my part? ^Avic_ennasis @ 12:10, 10 Elul 5771 / 12:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Idea for new cite template.

I've noticed that there is no template to cite a film or movie. Could such a template be added? This might be particularly helpful for documentaries. NewManOfAnOldAge (talk) 01:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

{{Cite video}}, compliant with WP:Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Why doesn't this show up under the Cite template list that is accessible whenever you are editing a wikipedia page? I see on that page a ton of cite templates but under this template list you can only cite web, news, book and journal. NewManOfAnOldAge (talk) 20:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Error 403

I am getting an error 403 on my smartphone and cannot log in--Woogie10w (talk) 11:44, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

OK now signed in on a secure server--Woogie10w (talk) 12:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Ayuda - Help

Si hay algún usuario que sepa idioma español, respóndame. El problema es que en Wikipedia en español tengo un usuario de nombre Ferdinand. Como ocurre con varios usuarios en español, al irse estos a la Wikipedia inglesa, sus usuarios existen. Resulta que no me ocurre eso porque en esta Wikipedia hay un User:Ferdinand que no ha tenido participación y está inactivo. Solicito su borrado. Tengo un usuario creado en la inglesa pero cuando entro con su cuenta, me cambia la cuenta en español y eso es mucha molestia. Muchas gracias :) --190.81.168.163 (talk) 23:42, 9 September 2011 (UTC)