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== Archived discussion ==
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# [[Talk:Single login poll]]
# [[Talk:Single login specifications]]

== External discussion ==
# [Wikitech-l] Single user login status --Brion Vibber
## http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2006-November/thread.html#27726
# [Wikitech-l] Primary account for single user login --[[User:Ans|Ans]] 11:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
## http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2007-October/thread.html#34137
## http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2007-October/thread.html#34172
## http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-April/037286.html
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External discussion
  1. [Wikitech-l] Single user login status --Brion Vibber
    1. http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2006-November/thread.html#27726
  2. [Wikitech-l] Primary account for single user login --Ans 11:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    1. http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2007-October/thread.html#34137
    2. http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikitech-l/2007-October/thread.html#34172
    3. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-April/037286.html

I was PERFECTLY fine using separate log-in accounts!

Like I said, I would rather have it to where I can log in separately at each and every wiki with which I have become a member. Others who are not so self-conscious about their screennames are undoubtedly THRILLED with this new system. But for those of us who have worked at several wikis EACH WITH A DIFFERENT USERNAME, it is frustrating to say the very least. So, if there's some way to turn the global account feature OFF I would love to know how to do that. Think of the people who know me at other wikis under my respective names. They'd flip if I told them I was so-and-so but am now going under a universal name. Huh-uh! I want my SEPARATE accounts back!!!!—Strabismus 04:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS—Please respond to my query on my English wikipedia account. Thanks!—Strabismus 04:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, if You would explain the exact problem short and understandable that would be helpful if You wish to recieve help, if You wish Your sul account to be deleted without taking in account any other solutions go to SR/SUL, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 08:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge different login

Will it be possible to merge different login ? Some people would like to "translate" their login but it’s not possible, will it be ? Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 19:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

problem with "no" account

On no.wikipedia, the account no:Bruker:Bjs was usurped for me. I can login with my SUL password, can edit pages and so on, but in my account overview, "no" has the status "unattached". I could not integrate it with the procedure provided in the German language wikipedia to merge accounts. Is there any other tool to do so? Greetings --Bjs 18:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, there is no problem with that account, it is just the toolservers. There are just these unattached ones:
    * en.wikipedia.org
    * nl.wikipedia.org
the one on no.wiki was attached on 4. janúar 2009 kl. 14:32, (retrieved from special:centralauth)
Please don't worry about the tools, they will not work correctly for some time, just rely on special:mergeaccount.
Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the fast response --Bjs 10:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New conflicts

Hi, I don't understand how this all works. I have SUL on this name since late last year, but already four new name conflicts have been created this year. Can I not stop these, except by going to every single wiki in advance to create a presence everywhere? Mysha

Hello,
Unattached accounts
  • en.wikiversity.org
  • fr.wikipedia.org
  • lt.wikipedia.org
  • www.mediawiki.org
Looking into the contributions and logs of these, they did exist already before late last year, so there are no new conflicts and can't be because Your name is protected now everywhere You don't have yet an account.
Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 13:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, so what it says here is not true? Mysha
Yes, The s3 is having an increasing replag since 2 months, please don't use results on the ts to verify Your account unification, please use special:mergeaccount only. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Emails from wiki-welcome bots after SUL enabled

I think it may be worth mentioning somewhere on the page that you may receive a ton of automated emails from Wiki-Welcome bots when you enable SUL and you edit a language wiki that has these turned on - the usual 'Some-Random-Welcome-Bot has left a note on your talkpage' or 'Welcome to the Thai Wikipedia (in gibberish)'. There have been a few threads on en.wiki's helpdesk since SUL was turned on asking what the hell was happening. Nanonic 01:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

E.g. w:en:Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 October 12#email received. Nanonic 02:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I really doubt people get "a ton" of automated emails, what happens is when people visit a new wiki is that a local account is created and then the smaller projects have enotifiy, which is enabled per default. I can tell that I am on many projects and glad about that feature, and I am not spammed. I recommend to either not to visit tons of wikis (we only have 700something) in one day or to vote for the bug 14950 because if that would be fixed one could proably disable enotify in the global preferences.
Also note, that people who create completely new accounts now have sul-accounts per default (except that name is already registered somewhere else and not yet suled), so they can not "choose" if they want sul or not anyway.
Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 02:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't work

Even after creating a global account, I have to log in when I go to the other projects. I always check the stay signed in for 30 days box, too. Daniel Christensen 06:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a local problem on Your computer, You must set Your browser to accept cookies etc. Note that some wikis are excluded from the automatic login system (e.g. Incubator). Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 09:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

en.labs.wikimedia.org

There may be a problem with SUL on http://en.labs.wikimedia.org, as it appears to be impossible to create an account there using my existing username, and it won't automatically create one. I've created an account there (http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Amberswood) but when I went to en.wikipedia with the account, although the account was automatically created there it didn't merge or set a password, and I had to request a password via e-mail. It looks like other users have had accounts created automatically there, so is there a way of creating an account with my usual username there? Snigbrook 01:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, You need to login, not signup, just go to http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin and use Your username and password, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 04:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice, it worked, the problem was because it wasn't created in the same way as on other wikis I had only tried using the "create account" page. Snigbrook 12:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Glad it worked, here is a bit of an explaination: There are some wikis that aren't included in the automatic login system, (e.g. incubator, local chapter wikis, wikimania2009, labs wikis, etc.) one has to manually log in there, account creation does not work, because the name is protected due to sul. Kind regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:38, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

can userpages be kept separate

Does unifying my login mean that I won't be able to keep separate user pages? That was useful so far to keep track of which pages I worked on in the different sister projects. I gather from the help text that email and user name will then be uniform. Creating a unified account will create the missing user pages in the so far unused sister projects or just create a pointer to a central user page? Thanks. Jasu 15:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, the user pages all stay completely seperate as do all the preferences as well. The only thing that changes is you have a single login for all the sites. ZX81 talk 15:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Great, that's what I hoped for. Thanks for getting back to me on that. Jasu

Questions regarding similarity check

Unified accounts is a great step forward. I'm still unclear though on the similarity check of login names the mediawiki performs to prevent impersonation. I was able to create a user with just one letter in small caps which went unnoticed by this check a while ago - "First lastname" in addition to "First Lastname". In a recent test, I couldn't repeat it. It appears that this has been fixed but I couldn't find any explanation about the similarity check or recommendations which name permutations one should also reserve to prevent impersonation. Would like to find out more. Best,

JS 19:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

You can't (not without deleting the global account, making more edits somewhere else where You want to have the homewiki and then remerging) but You can vote for the bug 14234, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Account on arz:wiki

For some reason my account on arz:wiki, which was created on January 22, refuses to show up here. Logging in and out is no problem, but does not help. I've no idea what might be wrong. Anyone? Wutsje 16:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Toolserver is not reliable, as long as the account is in special:mergeaccount everything is fine (it is also listed in Special:CentralAuth, so no worries), best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay, thank you. Regards, Wutsje 17:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for it not showing up is that arzwiki's database is not yet being replicated to the toolserver. Same goes for pntwiki. --Erwin 19:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"What it is" first para

Lose the parens. Those parenthetical sentences are too long (gasp for breath) and can stand alone as separate sentences. 92.40.144.193 15:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(User:SimonTrew at en.wikipedia.org-- apparently unified signup doesn't work quite as I expected)

OK looking at previous comments I realise the propagation of accounts is not instant. You might SAY SO. This is a perpetual bind with me, people forget that some others may not know or care what "toolserver" is they just want it to work. Fix it. Your problem. Search and fix is so sodding difficult on Wikixxxx it takes far longer than actually adding value, it is very frustrating. 92.40.144.193 15:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do You want? What You are writing is incomprensible, so if You are asking for help, please do that in an comprensible way.
Btw. the toolserver has nothing to do with the functionality of SUL, the toolserver is just an outside service, it is completely irrelevant to the functionality of a global account.
Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOGIN PROBLEM

I had opted for unified login.Now whenever I try to edit "File save" dialogue box appears in my homewiki,i.e Kannada wiki only.There is no problem in using other wiki.I have tried using difference browser and computer.Please help to fix the problem--VASANTH S.N. 18:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please go to Your kn:special:preferences > Editing > disable "Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" > press save, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It works! Thanks --VASANTH S.N. 18:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of UL

What does one do if they have UL but don't want it anymore? How is it removed? Can it be? What's the process? - ALLSTRecho wuz here @ 01:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, we usually do not delete global accounts, all new accounts are global per default. We only delete them for technical reasons (e.g. an empty global account with no attached ones after an rename action; and similar technical problems..), because we will not destroy the work of the devs now and revert their achievement again. So if one does not have a very good reason for this (if it is just "I don't like it"), this will not be done.
One can ask in SR/SUL and explain the exact problem, usually we find a solution for everyone. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 06:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How is Unified Login global by default when I had to go through a process to get Unified Login in the first place? One would think that since there's a process to get Unified Login, there would be a process to undo it if a user decides they don't want Unified Login anymore. - ALLSTRecho wuz here @ 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, "all new accounts are global per default". They can not chose anything. People with old accounts have the option to make their accounts global, but they do not have the option to revert it. That is it. There is not always an option to revert ones actions in other aspects of life either. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Italian Account

For reasons I can't begin to understand, I seem to have an account on it.wikipedia.org as part of my unified login. While it's certainly not harming anybody that it's there, it's also misleading (not to mention puzzling), since I don't speak a word of Italian. To my knowledge, I've never looked at an Italian article, and my user contributions (once I figured out where they were) confirm that I certainly haven't edited anything there. Is it possible to have just one site's login permanently removed from my UL? Given the UL, I wasn't sure if it was even possible to remove that account, much less how to go about doing so when I can't understand what I'm looking at, so I thought I'd ask here first. Thanks! --RobinHood70 17:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not possible, please live with it that Your account might have several local account where You never edit, this is certainly not missleading, the contributions show where You are active and which wiki You are from, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I figured that might be the case. Like I said, it's not really a big deal, it just would've been nice. Thanks for the quick reply! --RobinHood70 18:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Divorcing an account

Hello - I had my en-wiki account renamed to "Steve Smith", which seems to have automatically left behind a new account with my former name of "Sarcasticidealist" (which is still the name I use at all other projects, mostly because I'm too lazy to request renames at all of them). I understand that it's not possible to attach my "Steve Smith" en-wiki account to my Sarcasticidealist SUL, but is it possible to divorce my "Sarcasticidealist" en-wiki account from the SUL? Right now whenever I log into, for example, the Commons as "Sarcasticidealist", it also logs me into all other projects as "Sarcasticidealist", which has the effect of logging me out of en-wiki as "Steve Smith". Any advice? Sarcasticidealist 20:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, yes it is possible "to divorce Your "Sarcasticidealist" en-wiki account from the SUL", sorry for the late reply, I did miss this question. For requesting this please go to SR/SUL. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 05:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Still need to log in projects where an account was registered before

Hello,

I wonder if it is normal that I still need to separately log in projects where an account was registered before?

For example if I log in meta, I can visit most wikis correctly (de, jp, …), except those where I had registered an account before I created my meta account. For example in fr:wikipedia, en:wikipedia or fr:wikibooks. When I log in one of those and check the preferences, it says my account is correctly attached.

So for the moment I have a SUA (single unified Account). How can I do to really get a SUL?

Thanks, Calimo 12:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Calimo, that sounds like a cookie problem of Your system, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Spacebirdy :-)
I had already removed some cookies, but maybe not all? Anyway, I removed them all and it looks good now!
Calimo 07:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


DE-translation

maybe its now possible to set status for translation from red to yellow. Done Only the 'See also' -section is kept untranslated. --Itu 00:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proofreading is now wanted --Itu 19:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Using same account other people is. Can't I finish to turn on unfied login?

--병맛빵 05:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If they have more edits than You, You can't, if You have more edits You can, but those accounts will be unattached on the wikis they exist, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 12:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is using my name on another wiki, how can I get that account?

The information on this subject kind of leaves me at a loss on how to actually accomplish the resolution of my username conflicts. In particular: How do I find out

  • whether there are bureaucrats on arwiki, cswiki, fawiki, frwiki, idwiki, metawiki, mswiki?
  • how I can/should contact these bureaucrats or, on default, the appropricate stewards?

--88.130.212.243 21:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC) mhi[reply]

Hello, all those wikis have local bureaucrats, please ask for renames there (interwikilinks to the requestpages can be found on SR/SUL, or type special:listusers/bureaucrat into the searchfield on the local wiki), thanks. Stewards only do the renaming if the local wikis have no bureaucrats. Please note that usurping might not be possible on some projects if the accounts have edits, which seems to be the case on cswiki. To get a working sul-account, I would recommend to get a new name, which is not yet taken or try to ask the user on cswiki kindly if he would allow You to take his name and be renamed to something else, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 05:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a million! --92.116.75.42 06:57, 24 August 2009 (UTC) mhi[reply]

What about 'Wikia's?

I have an account with the same e-mail, username and password on a wikia (Doctor Who Wiki). Will I be unified with that or are wikipedia and wikias different things? - Jan Latta 06:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Different things, wikia is not a wikimedia-foundation project. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 06:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Global preferences?

I want to change "MonoBook" appearance to "Classic" appearance forever. But I have 23 local accounts. Are global preferences available anywhere? Gryllida 23:11, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see bugzilla:14950, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quesion?

I don't want to merge accounts but use my account on other wikis. How do I do that? Thanks. I'm NeoJustin on the english wikipedia btw. 98.125.210.161 06:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? Do you want to Usurp an account with your name you don't control or do you just want to use an account you make on each wiki. Jamesofur 06:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I just want to use an account I made on one wiki on all wikis if that is possible. 98.125.210.161 21:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Generally that's exactly what the Unified login does, in most cases there ISN'T another account with your username and so what happens is you reserve the right to that name on all Wikimedia projects. Then when ever you visit that project for the first time you will either automatically get logged in (usually) or you can log in with your normal username/password and it will automatically create an account for you there. Technically you are editing from a separate account from each wiki but it will always be your own account name (and can be searched to show crosswiki edit counts/activity etc. from looking here: http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=NeoJustin I only see a NeoJustin account on meta and en.wiki no where else. Assuming the meta account is you you'd be all set setting up a Unified.Jamesofur 22:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I figured it out. Thank you James. 207.118.98.93 05:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clumsy Grammar Overcompensation

Because incompetent public school teachers tell their victims that adverbs must ALWAYS end in -ly, and that any descriptor following a verb is an adverb, people end up wandering through life amusing actual linguists by saying silly things like "I feel badly", or "Firstly, note that the existence of the other account".

The -ly on firstly is redundant. It's as bad as people who stop using apostrophes at all, because they realize they were using them incorrectly. "First" is already a legitimate adverb; they do not always end in -ly, nor should they.[1]

I am, of course, referring to the first line of Someone is using my name on another wiki, how can I get that account? in the article. It needs to be changed to, simply, "First, note that..." Kazvorpal 12:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to change Unified Login

Changing from Mjquin_id to Mjquinn_id on all wikis; but I cannot find a procedure on several? Changed on enwiki and Wiktionary; but here (Wikimedia), Commons?, Wikibooks? Any help is appreciated. Mjquin id 04:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, unfortunately renames can't be done globally, You will have to ask on each wiki, if the wiki has no local bureaucrats, You can ask at Steward requests/SUL requests, or Steward requests/Username changes, I recommend to ask only for renames on wikis where You have edits to limit the number of required renames (check it with the sul-tool). On SR/SUL You can find links to local wiki requestpages on the left hand side at the interwikilinks and also here. Metas requestpage is here and the Commons one there. To make the new name a global account, or to add renamed accounts to the global one just go to special:MergeAccount while logged in. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"HomeWiki ???" - Display

Hello, I made most of my edits in de:wiki and a few ones in commons. Now if I display my Global- / UL-account there is always that disturbing "homewiki ???" although it should read "homewiki de". Is there any possibility to get that corrected ? Where to apply ?? If possible answer in my de:discussion page or here - THANK YOU --PhChAK 01:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I guess You are talking about the sultool [2], this is an outside service (on the toolserver), which is why we can't influence it, maybe talk to User:VasilievVV, who made that tool. Note that on special:mergeaccount everything should be fine and that is the only real special page for users for the global account. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 10:03, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Spacebirdy, yes I was wondering about that entry. I thought the error would be in the data, not the display tool. Why - by the way - is the special:mergeaccount-page NOT displaying the homewiki ? Resp. where can I find the official entry, which wiki really IS my homewiki (or some other persons homewiki) ??
I would like to have two things: a) a unification of all my watchlists as it is much better to have only one central watchlist (on my homewiki). And b) a redirect from all my discussion pages to my "homewiki-discussion-page". That would save me from patrolling all my watchlists and discussion pages ... --PhChAK (signature added later)
Hello, please see bugzilla:14950, bugzilla:13953, bugzilla:3525, also there is a tool (right now not working, there might be a problem with the toolservers atm.) for a global watchlist, maybe there exists a bugzilla request for that already too. Right now the homewiki can only be seen properly by the stewards via special:centralauth, but since the "homewiki" does not have any effect yet, this is no problem at all. If that ever will change I guess they will make a better interface for the options for the account to choose, also to change the homewiki, but until then the term "homewiki" is only cosmetic. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 22:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ... waiting a while for "bugfixes" & enhancements ... --PhChAK 15:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Full conflict resolution

Are there any plans for fully resolving SUL conflicts? So including multiple users with significant contributions using the same user name. Will there ever be or has it perhaps been decided that there will be no such plans? --Erwin 10:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Afaik there will be no further conflict resolution, if someone wants a fully working sul account he needs to usurp the blocking ones (if they have edits ask the owner) or rename to a not yet taken name. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updating Help, Welcome and FAQ pages, etc.

After reading WP intro pages stating unified login is not available yet, creating an account on WP (my first "target"), then straying (as one does) to WK and reading similar there, I was puzzled to see I was logged in on WK too, but with no User page. On checking preferences there I found the link to "Manage global account", and from there a link to this UL page! Hooray! Congrats to all.

Now, are there any plans for updating the many Help, Welcome and FAQ pages, etc., in all the projects, where they still say unified login is not available yet? Very confusing / discouraging for newcomers. Some exultant, celebratory message is called for! Many of these pages are protected, so a(nother) task for the admins, thanks. -- Bricaniwi 19:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I wish to start on this in the en-wiki, currently there's nothing about UL in its search. It took me half an hour to find about UL on en-wiki but when I logged in the merger everything went smooth. I checked and there's info in the meta help, but not in the locals wikis. I will update here if I might do something Colpitz 11:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Variable-gender users

Was it intentional that Gender is one of the project-specific preferences? I see I can be male on WP and female on WK if I want! What does this do to "global" mailing lists? -- Bricaniwi 19:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is weird indeed that one can chose different genders on different wikis, the intention behind this whole gender thing was afaik that the system messages refering to the user can be gender specific in the languages that distinguish them, e.g. German and many others. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Global Notification

Has there been any development on a global message notification feature? I know that on this main page it says that it might be released in the future. 69.177.201.119 23:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops: sorry about not logging in. My SUL is still in progress. Computerwiz908 23:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unified Error message bug

I tried to create an account on commons with the same username as in the WP - and got the error:

  • Cannot create account: the requested username is already taken in the unified login system.

No further information to resolve this problem is given. Looks like a real bug to me, or is it just a documentation failure? --92.195.162.251 11:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, this is not a bug, the accountname is already taken, please chose another one, if it is Your accountname, don't "create" a new account, but just login to the wiki with Your global account password and username. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 11:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can log on to Wikipedia with this account name - but it is Commons that brings me this message. If one wants to say "the account already exists", than the message is completely misleading. In this case - what is the connection to "Unified login"? --92.195.162.251 16:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is Your accountname? --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
( Name ) --92.195.162.251 10:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bitte gehe zu [3], klicke nicht auf "Neues Benutzerkonto anlegen" sondern gib direkt in der Maske Deinen Accountnamen und Dein Passwort an, Dein Browser muss Cookies akzeptieren. Schreibe bitte falls es wieder nicht klappt, lG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 11:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Das hab ich natürlich zuerst probiert - es kommt aber wie vorher auch jetzt nur die Meldung:
"Das Passwort ist falsch (oder fehlt). ..."
Eine Funktion "Passwort vergessen" wiederum habe ich übrigens vergeblich gesucht. --92.195.162.251 17:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Da scheint trotzdem etwas mit Deinen Browsereinstellungen (bitte ueberpruefe auch noch einmal, ob Dein Browser Cookies akzeptiert) nicht ganz zu stimmen, eigentlich muesstest Du dort automatisch eingeloggt werden, sobald Du von de.wiki eine Commons-Seite besuchst (uebrigens auch auf Meta), bitte mache einmal das folgende: ueberpruefe, ob Du in de.wiki auf de:special:preferences eine bestaetigte E-Mail-Adresse angegeben hast (wichtig, dass sie bestaetigt ist, falls irgendwas sein sollte, Du musst trotzdem E-Mails von anderen Benuztern nicht erlauben, wenn Du es nicht willst), logge Dich dann auf de.wiki aus und wieder ein, waehle das Haeckchen "auf diesem Computer dauerhaft anmelden" und besuche danach Commons, oben rechts siehst Du, ob Du noch eingeloggt bist. Bitte melde Dich wieder, wenn es wieder nicht gehen sollte (so schnell gebe ich nicht auf :o)
LG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 23:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ich rücke mal wieder etwas ein...
Meine Email war bereits bestätigt, habe vorsichtshalber alle Cookies mit "Commons" gelöscht, dann aus- und wieder eingeloggt. Das klappt auch - in andersprachigen WPs bin ich sogleich eingeloggt, nur auf Commons nicht. So, habe dann noch einmal manuell den commons-Login gemacht - und siehe da es klappt nun. Nach Abmelden und Login via WP-de ist man nun auch auf Commons eingeloggt.
Was bleibt ist a) der Login auf Commons klappt offenbar nicht immer, sonst hätte ich die Fehlermeldung nicht gesehen; b) der Verweis auf "Unified Login" ist mindestens irreführend. Entweder stimmt das Passwort nicht - dann sollte man das auch schreiben - oder es ist ein Softwarefehler. So oder so, danke für die konkreten Hinweise.
.. während der Login auf Meta ja nicht geht, wie du an dieser Signatur siehst. --92.195.162.251 00:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, mysteriös, ich vermute hinter dem Ganzen immer noch eine Cookie-Einstellung (diese sind ja eine Wissenschaft fuer sich) oder Cache?... Wie dem auch sei, da gaebe es fuer die Devs sicher einiges zu verbessern, dass diese Fehler selbst bei anderen Einstellungen nicht auftreten bzw. irgendwelche Warnungen oder verbesserte Fehlermeldungen, Du bist ja leider nicht der erste. Fuer Meta schlage ich dann eine aehnliche Vorgehensweise vor, wenn Du Dich hier einloggen möchtest... :S
Es waere noch interessant welchen Browser Du verwendest, und welche Version, vielleicht haengt es immer beim selben Browsertyp :S
LG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 01:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Vergass zu erwähnen: Ich hatte vorsichtshalber _zwei_ Browser abwechselnd getestet, Firefox 3.5 und Seamonkey 1.18 (die ja auch getrennte Cookies verwalten etc). --92.195.162.251 21:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another Login Problem

I've been on the | New Contributer's Help Page, but apparently my problem requires Experts, and they have referred me to this page.

I began this process at the beginning of January, and the early history can be found at the above link. My Accounts are properly merged -- that was never a problem -- but when I extended my question to "I'd like to be validated on the German site, de.wikipedia.org. How is that requested or made to happen?"

PhantomSteve gave some advice, which I followed, but in the end, my situation is unchanged: I have logged in ("here", = en.wikipedia.org) and checked the "Remember me" box. I opened a new tab (in FireFox), and went to de.wikipedia.org (= "there"). No luck; (1) I am NOT already logged in, (2) if I try to create the account, I'm told it already exists, and (3) if I try to log in, I'm told Das Passwort und/oder das Sicherheitswort (Captcha) ist falsch oder wurde nicht eingegeben.

(Regarding cookies: I "Allow for Session" from all sites that look like Wikipedia and its friends.)

Is it possible that in de.wikipedia.org my password is different somehow? Otherwise, Experts, what else might be wrong, and how do I fix it? (PhantomSteve also wants to know.) DaHorsesMouth 23:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The user acount on the name of DaHorsesMouth has been made on November 11, 2008 at 22:42. As this acount is unatached to yours. I suggest:
  1. If you forgot your password, make a new one and follow the steps on the login page
  2. Mail the user, asking for permission to take over this account.
Hopefully this is of any help to you. --Ida Shaw 15:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am still confused. I did email the user (on dewiki), and it is me. I changed the password (on dewiki), and I changed the password on enwiki to match. Still, my SUL status is Unattached on dewiki, and dewiki does not log me in automatically.

Is there another step in the process, or should I wait longer for something to happen? 63.231.160.158 02:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this is the answer: Do I have to give myself permission to "take over" the dewiki account? If so, HOW? Or, is it necessary for me to inform someone that DaHorsesMouth on dewiki is the same person as on enwiki? If so, WHO? I have not tried those ideas. 63.231.160.158 02:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You could give it a try at this page, there you can explain your problem. Hopefully this helps. --Ida Shaw 10:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You should be able to solve it by visiting Special:MergeAccount while being logged in. --Erwin 11:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SOLVED! Erwin is closest. What was finally necessary was:

  1. Log in to enwiki
  2. Log in to dewiki (simultaneously -- new tab or whatever)
  3. FROM dewiki, navigate to Spezial:MergeAccount, the German equivalent of Special:MergeAccount.

At that point, dewiki recognises that you have an unattached global login, and prompts for the last step in the process. Gold star to Erwin, thank you sir! DaHorsesMouth 21:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is a unified account tallied as a user in *every* project?

This is a question about statistics of "number of users", such as this plot.
How are SUL users counted? Specifically, if a user creats a unified login, will he be counted as "one user" in *every* wikipedia?
If not, what is the condition for that account to be tallied in one particular wikipedia?
Thanks, and all the best, --143.106.24.25 00:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the [special:listusers] does only show the accounts that had been created on that wiki. Every new account is now a sul account (except if the name is already taken it is not suled), that means the wiki where the user creates the account does list the user there, then the user is only listed in [special:listusers] on a specific wiki when he visits that specific wiki. If these statistics take their data from [Special:GlobalUsers] (which I doubt) they will show all global accounts, but not the non global ones even if it exists on the wiki one views the special page on. Hope that answered Your question. Best regards, --geimfyglið :^╡ 09:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hello, I am german user de:User:Juliana da Costa José and cannot use my en: account because I lost my password and confirmed no emailadress. When I created the account, the singlelog-in was not created. How can I get my account back? Yours --Juliana da Costa José 16:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, da der Account eh 0 Bearbeitungen hat, kannst Du einfach um Umbenennung des selbigen bitten, und zwar auf en.wiki dort. LG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess they did find it easily from the page I linked, because it is linked there. But anyway, I put the requestpageindex on the helppage now, feel free to put it there better if You don't like it the way I put it (it is a wiki). Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it all or nothing?

I attempted to unify my account. It worked for several wikis, but apparantly there is someone with the same username on the French wikipedia. Does that mean I'll be able to unify everything except that one French Wikipedia, or does it mean I don't get any unification at all until I persuade that French editor to change his name? Readin 04:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. "Does that mean I'll be able to unify everything except that one French Wikipedia" - yes. You already have. To get Your name everywhere see SR/SUL the interwikilinks on the left to the local requestpages (fr.wiki account has 0 edits, should be no problem usurping it). Br., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 00:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unified login never works!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, there I have unified login, and it tells me that I'm loggin in here and there and there and... But when I go the site I am NOT logged in! This is great because you're doing an edit believing you're logged in but then you find out that you signed with your IP! Something to do about this? Nageh 09:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You must allow cookies. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 20:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How do I do this? I tried to log in to WiiBrew, but it says that the account doesn't exist. Keyboard mouse 01:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wiibrew is not a wikimedia wiki. es:Drini 01:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How many users unified their logins?

Are there statistics about how many users (out of all the users) unified their logins in the different wikipedia? For example, out of all the X users in the English Wikipedia, how many of them are logins unified in all the wikipedias?

If they are not already available, any suggestions on how to extract them? I have tried the following ideas (with very limited success):

* Users can explicitly transclude in their user page the template User_unified_login/userbox (but this is not automatic for all the users who unified their logins so I guess only few users did it). How many? Less than 500, see  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:User_unified_login/userbox&limit=500 
* Users can explicitly transclude in their user page the template User_unified_login (but this is not automatic for all the users who unified their logins so I guess only few users did it). How many? Less than 1000, see  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&limit=500&target=Template%3AUser+unified+login&namespace=
* You can check if a user is registered on many wikipedias via the API. For example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=globaluserinfo&guiuser=Phauly&guiprop=groups%7Cmerged%7Cunattached but I don't know how to get the entire list (I clearly don't want to do an API call for each user in Wikipedia)
* This tool similarly lets you analyze a single user  http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=phauly  but I would like to have stats about all the users.

Any suggestion will be great! Thanks! --Phauly 13:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anomaly

There seems to be an anomaly with my global account. In particular, it seems someone is using my username on the Malayalam Wiktionary, and copied and translated two of my edits from the English Wiktionary to the Malayalam one. [4] It used to tell me that that account was unattached, but now that I've visited the links, it's attached, but I certainly did not make those edits to the Malayalam Wiktionary. Does anyone know what happened? — Internoob (Wikt. | Talk | Cont.) 03:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Imported edits, the entry had been imported from another wiki, so the edits in fact are Yours but You just made them somewhere else, nothing to worry about, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special:MergeAccount

I posted this on Talk:Steward requests/SUL requests, but anyway. I'm trying to get my account unified across a whole bunch of projects that had accounts created in 06/07 which haven't edited. I was mucking around with Special:MergeAccount and typed "password" into the password field. It actually unified accounts. I then tried "sonia" and got another two. So now I have unified five accounts without renaming them. (mediawiki, plus four languages I can't read.) Am I in trouble? {{Sonia|talk|simpleWP}} 09:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, no You are not in trouble, You just usurped them kind of unfair, but since they had such stupid passwords it is almost merely their own fault, I saw the mediawiki one had 0 edits, so there it is no problem at all, were the others zh.wiki, fa.wiki, da.wiki, eu.wiki or bn.wiki, then I see no problem either because they had 0 content edits too. The only trouble You are in that I can see is that You have so many unattached accounts and some of them have edits (might be never solved ;( ). Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's good. Thanks. {{Sonia|talk|simpleWP}} 07:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accounts renamed across all wikis.. now what?

Hi folks, I got Martyx usurped on en:wiki and proceeded to rename my accounts (commons and metawiki) but how do I get my unified login renamed? Or do I simply use MergeAccount again? SUL [old] and [new] Martyx 13:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For now it's not possible to rename a global account together with its local accounts. You could request the local ones to be renamed, but you'd have to do that at each project. Seeing as none of them have contributions I'd just leave it like this. --Erwin 17:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Erwin, sorry I was originally Xytram but have since changed all my accounts to Martyx (which is why Xytram has no edits globally). All my used accounts have been renamed but no longer unified. Should I just create a new SUL with MergeAccount for Martyx? Martyx 14:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Making edits on wikis where unification is not possible

I would like to make an edit on fr-wiki (French) but that is one of four projects (the others being Commons, "ro" and "tr") where accounts already exist. I tried to get the accounts usurped before (a few years ago), but was told it was not possible. Should I try again, or should I just create a separate account to make edits on fr-wiki? I'm unlikely to ever make many edits on fr-wiki - it will be mainly fixing interwikis and adding pictures I've taken in France. Carcharoth 08:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should I go ahead and create a separate account? Carcharoth 03:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How did I make an account?

I made an account on Wikipedia. I noticed special page. So, I went to Meta. And it made me an account? Explain please? AboundingHinata 15:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The account you created on Wikipedia is a so-called global one. That means that you can use it on pretty much any Wikimedia project as a local account will be created automatically. --Erwin 15:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unified user page, unified talk page, unified watchlist

I've read over this talk page and the associated help page but have been unable to determine whether there are any plans to add a unified user/talk page to the unified login system. Although I only have a few active accounts (mainly I just use the Wikipedia one), it would still be really nice (and I imagine immensely helpful for some people--I see some are active on over 20 sister projects) if there were some sort of unified user page and talk page. So: are there plans to implement a unified user/talk/watchlist? I would fully support them if there were. Rezecib 20:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crosswiki talkpage notification: bugzilla:1066, crosswiki watchlist: bugzilla:3525, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

I need to rename my account? How do I do this? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Certero1 (talk • contribs) --dferg ☎ talk 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Only users in the "bureaucrat" usergroup can do that. Please contact one of them (type in the searchbox Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat) and ask one of them to rename your account. If the project where where do you want your account renamed does not have bureaucrats please ask a steward at Steward requests/Username changes. Should you have further questions please feel free to ask again. Best regards, --dferg ☎ talk 18:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for merge on two wikis

Please assist Special:MergeAccount does not work on wikimania2006 and wikimania2007. Can someone please merge these for me? Thanks. Koavf 21:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stewards can not anymore unify (merge) accounts via centralauth. Only the owner of the account can. --dferg ☎ talk 22:50, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
These wikis are not part of the unified login system. --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 07:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah Thanks to you both. Koavf 19:27, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]